@@chriswilliams5982 That's why this is an anti-war film though, to us civilians this is unhinged because the drill instructor is trying to toughen up these men so they can be killers
@@chriswilliams5982 I believe Ermey said the weren't supposed to hit them either, but at the height of Nam they had cut about a 1/4 of basic training out to get them out faster. So, they used the physical stuff as a shortcut for the time of proper training!
@@Nic-ye2yz I agree. I was twice wounded in a firefight three months into my 2nd tour in Nam. I saw guys crack under the weight of battle. Guys who had endured the baptism of fire, and I never saw them as anything but victims of a pointless war. I remember watching Full Metal Jacket and being disgusted and angry because Stanley Kubrick caught the brutality and inhumanity of not only Vietnam, but all war. From boot camp to the battlefield it just shows the insanity of it all.
I respect anyone who served in a combat zone. I have mad respect for combat vets. R. Lee Army was a supply sergeant in Vietnam, so I respect his service
There is where he got his fame he was there to be a advisor instead he took over the role when the actor couldn't do the job. R.Lee Ermey RIP sir yes sir.
I am a marine who served from 1980-1984. This is an absolute accurate representation of what happened in bootcamp. Break you down to build you up, brings back many found memories. Semper fi!!
This movie is about the closest representation of boot camp as it was. Served MCRD SD 1978-82. The screaming is absolutely necessary. You better listen up or your ass is grasped. Basically one is being trained to become killers. American tax payers are footing the bill. After all these years I'm still Gung Ho. As are many who took the abuse at one end and came out the other to earn the title MARINE. Semper Fi
I was a Drill Sergeant in the Army from 86-89. I was taking a communications class in college where the teacher asked all of us to give some background. When I mentioned that I was a Tanker/Cav Scout and a Drill Sergeant several people actually gasped and one of them asked me why we are so mean. I told them that the training soldiers in a combat arms specialty means I am training people to kill people and if they run they not only get killed, they get people who depend on them killed as well. If they can't take me yelling at them they definitely can't take people shooting at them so they need to be weeded out to save lives and help us to win. After that they seemed to understand why we do what we do.
You have to program them (recruits) to act think eat sleep shit run and BE a soldier. When yer 17-19. You have NOT A CLUE on how to BE All You Can BE. Thats ANY of the 5 branches. Semp Fi 👊
I am a Marine who served from 88-93. This is a fairly accurate depiction of what boot-camp was like. The drill instructors job was to try to break you, and many could not hack it, but those of us that did came out of that training feeling and looking absolutely bulletproof. Our enemies will not let us use timeout cards and safe spaces during battle, if you are not mentally tough you are a detriment to the Corps. Semper Fi
Parris Island 1986 2nd Batt Fox Company platoon 2086. Senior Drill Instructor Kenneth. Dislocated both knees in 2nd Phase. Medically discharged. This movie gave me nightmares 😂😂😂😂 Brother did 2.5 years in Iraq. 1st Batt recon, LAV commander. Ermy was a national treasure!!!
When I was at PI, we still were in the white two story barracks. By the time my brother got there they had all moved to the three story brick barracks. My only problem with this movie.😂😂😂😂
Well, seeing how 4:20 spotted Vincent Donofrio as the Kingpin, he also played Edgar the roach in the original Men in Black, and he played Detective Goren on Law and Order Criminal Intent. Gomer Pyle was a singer from back in the day and I think he was a Marine. Another few famous Marines include Gene Hackman (Lex Luthor in the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, Harold the blind guy in Young Frankenstein), Harvey Keitel(Satan in Little Nicky, Winston Wolf in Pulp Fiction), and Adam Driver(Kylo Ren)
This is one of the funniest scenes in the HISTORY OF CINEMA! Slays me every time! So I was really surprised to see just how many reactors (men and women alike), being shocked and scared instead of amused. I don't know if it's where I grew up, how I grew up, or WHEN I grew up, but all the women I know laugh as hard as I do at this scene!
R Lee Ermey was NOT originally supposed to be this character in the movie. He was just there to write insults, but after he wrote over 100 lines, they decided he should be the character. The actor who was SUPPOSED to be the drill instructor ended up being the guy shooting people out of the helicopter.
R Lee Ermey always wanted to be cast in a Stanley Kubrick movie, and initially settled as a consultant. When the original actor wasn't cutting it, Kubrick let him do some blocking on camera, and everyone was so impressed that he was cast on the spot.
The Drill Sergeant’s abuse is an act of love. While those boys are at Paris Island, he’s doing everything he can do to help them come back from Vietnam alive.
The abuse is always a matter of debate. Is it helpful or not. When Brute commanded MCRD, he saw a DI strike a recruit and told him to remove his coverm stomp on it and wait in his quarters for transfer orders.
No it's not.... Remind me of "All Quiet on the Western Front", this militaristic masochism was a norm for centuries in all European/western armies. It's efficiency was quite debatable.
R Lee Ermey actually said that Hartman was a TERRIBLE drill instructor because any drill instructor would know that Pyle is NOT mentally competent for the marines and should be sent home and not drafted
I started basic in 1975 and it was much like this. Ermy was a master of the Marine Corps yelp and our drills did not do that, but they were every bit as nasty and mean and also just as funny. They did not train men back then to be decent citizens but killers and that is what the military needed. I loved this movie until they got to Viet Nam and then it became a hippie propaganda flic.
As a Marine who served from 87-92.. I can tell you that the opening sequence of recieving day is very realistic. Its not funny when your there.. but after a time and when you look back Drill Instructors are funny AF! Yes they are hard. Yeas they are calous.. The enemy we will confont in battle wont be giving out hugs and saftey pins.. SFMF
I was in Boot in 1999. Obviously the racial stuff wasn't said by that point but yeah DIs definitely go up and down the squad bay like that berating you, making you do PT, they don't (often) put hands on you but it wasn't out of the question either. And they tell you when you arrive DIs aren't supposed to swear but that's a total PR lie; they swear freely and openly most of them.
Lee Ermey was a real-life Marine drill instructor before becoming an actor. He served in the United States Marine Corps from 1961 to 1972, rising to the rank of Staff Sergeant. During his service, he was a drill instructor at Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego from 1965 to 1967 and later served in Vietnam and Okinawa.
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart
03, Bronze Star, Purple Heart: no need to say more: respect. Semper Fi Gunny & Welcome Home. What I'll add to what the Gunny said, that the USMC helps those who need direction is: I thought I had no interest in being a teacher because as a young man I thought only a job with a big salary was worth pursuing. But eventually I discovered from my time in the service that I really enjoyed helping Marines pass annual rifle qualification. Talking them through remaining calm, drilling the technique, and succeeding to hit the bullseye with some urgency. Looking back I spent many hours sweating in the field doing nothing but observing the sun cross the sky or insects crawl along the sand. Hurry up and wait. But I believe that I did make a difference improving Marines' rifle marksmanship, and some of them later deployed to Iraq. Hopefully I contributed some to them coming home and their enemies going to hell. Discovering that purpose led me to pursue teaching as a profession. I don't know that I'd have followed that path if I had only ever been a civilian. The Marines give you a lot of responsibilities at a younger age than nearly any other job and you may find unexpected capabilities within yourself.
What do you think of the new path the last commandant set the Marines on? Retired the heavy armor and the bridging units. He turned the marines into a decentralized Island coastal defense force. I know some old Marine officers who are livid about this. FYI, I was Army not Marines which I left to my younger brother.
That's why D.I.s aren't like this anymore. Today's generation are such snowflakes, they'd last about 2 minutes in the Marines with R. Lee Ermey as their D.I.
When my son was 5, I told him that his mother used anger to intimidate and get her way. And I didn't want that for him. So I had him stand in the garage for 5 seconds while I yelled and threatened him. I told him I would be asking if he felt anything tightening or any reactions. He said he did not and asked if he could go go play. 13 years later, he came home from basic and said that was the best thing I ever taught him. He saw grown men break down and cry because the DI yelled at them. He had THREE DIs yelling and simply thought, "They are not mad at me. It's a game." They recommended him for OCS, Officers Candidate School, which he declined.
@@emzee586 He says now that it did not happen. But I remember the time and place when he told me. Maybe trying to make dad proud ? But thanks for calling me a liar.
This is also one of the first things they do to new inductees to Scientology, during their Training Rundown exercises. Somehow Lewis Carroll's book Alice in Wonderland is involved, I think maybe you have to recite passages from it while someone is yelling at you or something similar, but I may be getting two of the TRs mixed up in my head.
@@stevejette2329 The question of whether he qualifies for OCS would have been handled prior to his assignment to basic training, possibly during initial recruitment, depending on his level of education. Whatever memory you're looking for is going to be from the time period before he got his head shaved, if that helps.
My father was an Army Drill Sergeant two different times, he was infantry, Vietnam vet, EIB, CIB, Airborne. He passed away in the 70s. He told me that it is an act that they put on to get into the heads of the recuits. To make them more afraid of the DIs than the tasks and training which was incredibly dangerous. When I went to Army basic in 84 it was exactly like this just like my father had told me. I was never afraid, i was a bit of a smart ass being an army DI brat. Dad had already taught me to shoot and handle a rifle so when I was issued mine I was better trained and experienced than the rest of the recruits. My DIs asked me where I learned to shoot like that and I told them about my dad being a drill sergeant in these very barracks 15 years earlier, which he was. My first Army unit was in the same building as my dads last.
What a proud feeling it must have been! To this day I wish I had attempted to serve, to see if I had what it took to become a US Marine. My folks asked if I wanted to join the Marines or get my Masters degree (they saw a lot of friends die during Nam and were willing to support my education in lieu of the military) but to this day I question my decision. It always upsets me when people are unbelievably disrespectful and act like joining the military is “a fallback”. Thank you for your service. I've always wondered what a respectful way to thank veterans is, and I'm happy to hear any recommendations you have. I imagine that walking into the local VFW and buying a round isn't the top of the list?
Only 0.04% of the population has ever been called Marines. We are not called the few and proud for nothing. After we earned the eagle globe and anchor we all are brothers forever.
I thank each of you for your service to our country. I come from a military family with several Marines and I appreciate what y'all went through to earn that proud title. Semper Fi and happy birthday to the Corps
Folks, he's not being mean. He's being kind, because they may face the most horrifying situations imaginable and must be able to survive them. The Drill Instructor's job is to prepare them for anything and still be able to perform their duties. If one man does not do his job, then entire unit could be killed. Imagine seeing the guy next have his face blown off or a friend holding his guts in. Imagine being captured, tortured and humiliated in a prison camp. Imagine facing certain death and needing the ability to go anyway. This is not cruel. It is necessary.
As a person who came from a different background than most americans, lived in a different country while growing up and life was harsh, going to Army bootcamp didn't feel hard ( emotional side ), unlike other guys who i saw there, shit i'm not even your average american guy who's tall and even me who was supposed to "struggle", i did not, i saw like 10 people or more drop out, some due to not being able to PT / pass PT tests / endure emotional stress Most due to the latter one, i was surprised tbh ( this was like 7 years ago )
When I was in Navy boot camp in 1992, our drill instructor looked like Sargent Carter in the face, had a body like Schwarzenegger & yelled like this guy! This is 100% how it is in real life!
😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂 This was my boot camp!!! All older Marine vets just laugh watching this movie! What these young people don't understand this was 100% accurate. Semper Fi
Air Force TI veteran here, 1982. The real scary part here is that probably 80% or more of todays youth wouldn't last one day in this environment. They have become so very soft that I'm not sure if we could win a war against Aruba.
Until this film came out, no one had seen a monologue like this except for the Marines who had gone through boot camp during this time period. It is not an exaggeration to say that this scene shocked the whole nation. It instantly became legendary, and in the period between the film's release in theaters and its first television broadcast on cable TV (on the HBO premium channel if I am remembering correctly), it was spoken of in hushed tones of reverence and awe usually reserved for shameful family secrets or tales of great daring or luck during one's criminal adventures.
Talking to Marines who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, Marines still watch this scene with reverence and admiration. /My hat's off to the crazy SOBs who will watch that scene and decide, "I'm going to be a Marine some day."
The ending is crazy. The female sniper was just picking them off one by one. Then after they got her, they just let her bleed out and walked off singing the Mickey Mouse song 😂
Dear younger people....this is how it was, and we delt with it. If you can't handle a little artificial stress caused by someone yelling at you, what use are you going to be to anyone beside you when the bullets start hitting people? Things started changing in the mid 80's...the young ones couldn't handle the stress...of someone yelling at them...weak, just weak. I hope you watch Saving Private Ryan next to understand why this was done. This was easy, combat isn't. Think about it.
And how exactly is it our fault we’re “weak” ? Because our parents generation didn’t teach us to be strong? Your generation would be the same as us under the same circumstances.
R. Lee Ermey had been a film consultant for many years, and was a consultant on this film. When the actor playing the drill instructor was not giving the performance that Kubrick wanted, he asked Ermey to demonstrate, and Ermey essentially improvised this scene. Kubrick released the other actor and replaced him with Ermey who was given a great deal of free reign to do what he thought was appropriate - something that was very rare in a Kubrick film since he normally planned out scenes so meticulously.
I don't use that, but I will say, "Well, any day" or "Sometime today" for people moving slow. I was not a Drill Instructor, but every Marine has the "Drill Instructor Voice", which can be used to motivate people from time to time.
Yeah, but it still brings back nightmares/laughs. I don't remember the names of any of them but my senior. Gunney Kenneth. Tough as nails, hard as concrete, but if you were worthy, a great mentor. Miss those times
The day I got there they stormed on the bus screaming and all the kids that said they'd fight the DIs if they got in their faces just folded completely, one of them cried. It's always the "tough" ones.
@@alienresearchlab I was scared shitless but the fear eventually turned into respect. My family is all Marine and they all said the same thing, but nothing could have prepared me for the sheer shitstorm presence of the DI's. But as it transitioned to respect I was able to draw the line between my experience and the personality traits of my family members I always admired. Except my brother; he wound up going force rec and turned into an arrogant prick. He always had to remind everyone in my family that he was somehow "more" Marine than everyone else. But life is rough all over I guess.
@@solomonpachowiak106 When they dumped all the footlockers in a pile in the middle and started the countdown to: 'get your gear' I knew I was in trouble. LOL!
My husband was in the Marine Corps boot camp training in Camp Pendleton in California. When I first met him in Camp Lejuine North Carolina, he had just recently left boot camp. Through the years of our marriage he still had nightmares from his boot camp for awhile. Sadly he passed away 2 years ago with the Marine Corps funeral he always wanted. He loved being a Marine.
3:52 my Drill Sergeant explained it to me like this (after graduation from Basic Training), “Private, we have exactly 13 weeks to take a punk kid off the street and train him to hopefully survive combat, you can’t do that being nice…”
The first time someone actually tries to kill you in a combat zone basic/boot makes a lot more sense, it isn't 1% as hard, intense or awful as watching your friends bleed out and then killing the enemy and having to live with that afterwards
I was about 3 feet away from R. Lee Ermey on my 3rd day of boot camp (still in receiving) in December 2004. He was obviously retired from the Corps and well into his acting career, but he still seemingly had free rein to hang around MCRD in San Diego as he saw fit. It was one of the few times I ever saw multiple DIs let their guard down as they all admired and aspired to be like him. They mess with you from the second you get off that bus and I hadn’t slept yet, and the whole thing didn’t feel entirely real.
God, I remember receiving, hectic, loud....you knew immediately after leaving those yellow footprints that you were in a whole new world. I remember the receiving Drill Instructors were nicer and more calm, but still firm. They were instructors who were rotating out and it was used as part of the reintegration process for them. I remember that first haircut, looking in the mirror as they were telling us how to shave. Not sleeping for the first day and a half. I remember being shocked that that as the first graduating class of the new year we were allowed to watch the Rose Bowl, as it coincided with the phase where we were getting put back into human mode. They had a Jack in the Box on the base...so good
@@helmedon There was a Burger King just a couple of blocks from 2nd Bn on Parris Island. It had a little gift shop in there too. I still have a set of sweats that I bought there. You mentioned the Rose Bowl. Every year the Marine Bandsmen in that area put together the USMC West Coast Composite Band, and march in the Parade.
I’m not from the military, but I used to work as server at the Edson Range for 6 yrs. I’ve seen A LOT. 😂 just by watching the bootcamp scene, it brings back memories. One of the many stories I remember, there was a recruit that was in trouble, don’t exactly know what he did, but I had a front row seat serving the desserts. The senior staff sergeant told him to “Beat his face” he paused and stared at the senior sergeant and repeated the order, he yells, “ARE YOU DEAF!? Get on the ground and beat your face!” So this recruit proceeded to wail punches on his face. 😂🤣 Senior staff sergeant screams, “NOOO!! YOU FUCKING DUMBASS! DO PUSH-UPS!” He needed someone to take over before he cracked. Lolz
they would have to live it to believe it. when I went to fort Knox in 1989 I was humbled real quick. cattle truck pulled up we threw our bags on and strapped on the duffle packed with my clothing issue and off we wnet jogging to the billets. i remember thinking what have my 18 year old fresh out of high school ass gotten myself into!😂😂😂😂😂😂
R Lee was a real drill instructor in the Marine Corp. This is a perfect depiction of how Marine Corp drill instructors conduct business on a daily basis. We hated being there at first but we grew to respect and admire our drill instructors. Some of us actually missed bootcamp after we graduated. Many people say this is harsh treatment but this a reality Marine recruits face. I'm not knocking other branches but Marine basic training is tougher than any other bootcamp.
R. Lee Ermey said in an interview, he was actually portraying how a drill sergeant is NOT supposed to act in this movie. He said a real drill sergeant would be able to tell that Private Pyle was going insane.
My one dislike of the film was Sgt Hartman's reaction to Private Lawrence/Pyle in the insanity scene. Marine Drill Instructors are like psychologist - he would have tried to talk him off the ledge. Glad to hear Ermey said the same thing. I actually met him in 2005 or 2006 but didn't think to bring it up.
This movie portrays the drill sergeant's actions as negative and he gets directly killed because of it. His "tough training" leads to a man's suicide and his own death.
@@TheMojoWorks No it didn't, it led a mentally unstable young man to crack and have a psychotic episode. This never would have happened in real life. This is screened for and one of the reasons Marine instructors are this hard on recruits. If you can't handle this kind of stress you can't handle combat in the manor of a US Marine. Ermy said he portrayed his character as an example of how not to be an instructor because real instructors would have spotted Pyle losing it very early and he likely would have been rejected within the first phase. We weren't allowed to keep our weapons like portrayed here, certainly not access to live rounds. Real boot camp they're not allowed to put hands on you like this, nor to use racial targeting. This is meant to wed out the weak and train for specific traits. There's a reason they say the few the proud.
@@TheMojoWorks so many opinions but so little knowledge 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️Glad I'm the son of an instructor or I would've been just as soft as the new age hairless iPhone midgtes
I enlisted in the Marines in 1980 and attended boot camp at Paris Island... I knew absolutely nothing about R. Lee Ermey when the movie was released and just assumed the studio hired a Marine Drill Instructor to play the part...turns out I was correct. His delivery, cadence and voice are spot on...and it is very apparent that R. Lee Ermey was an actual Drill Instructor. The day we got our Drill Instructors all hell broke loose...and for the first hour or so I kept thinking "what the hell have I done?"
@@GiblixStudio That's basically her reaction to every serious movie that was made by someone who had a pair and didn't give a damn about their feelings. I'm part of Jen Z because of my age, but I don't really consider myself in the same demographic.
@GiblixStudio She's lucky enough to be Canadian and obviously a gentle, sheltered life. Good for her. (No mulitary damily mebers) I grew up in 'urban' USA and it left me with a harsh, (and cynical) btw outlook. I love this scene!!
Yeah, they will make you do everything over and over until you get it right. It will be indelibly burned in your brain. The military has their way of doing things and they will teach you every single thing and how they want it done
By the numbers is a time limit incase anyone is wondering what that means. You got a certain amount of time to complete every task. Shave, shower, shit
I'm a Marine veteran. This movie was set during the vietnam war and all the recruits would most likely be going there after boot camp and infantry training. I went through boot camp in 1981 about 10 years after the timeframe in the movie, and it was very much the same. There was a major reduction in physical violence against the recruits, but not all of it was eliminated. The yelling and the name callng and cussing was the same, spot on. Hated it at the time but it worked. We all came out 3 months later in peak physycal shape and mentally prepared for anything. Would definately do it again.
3rd bn I co plt 3011 1985 This movie reminded me of my drill instructors. I had 2 stress monsters, one top hat, and of course, my senior drill instructor. I got slapped while I was on the yellow footprints.
I like watching you younger generation watching this and being in a state of shock, it just goes to show the difference in people several generations later. The first time we watched this movie we were all dying laughing, the lines were comedy gold, we still use them today on the job while working.
"I wonder how much of this is real?" Me remembering running a 1/2 mile. Over and over and over again to collect rocks for my DIs rock collection and building him a throne made from MRE boxes. Then spending an afternoon next to the road saluting birds, cars, and trees. Also me " Pretty damn close."
I used to watch this on VHS when I was a kid (54 now). The one thing I noticed, all the people reacting to this were 20s-mid 30s and they seemed to have never heard a human being talk like that. I grew up in the 70s and 80s , insults like that were common for fun or fighting. This movie portrayed young men in their teens going off to fight a war where the enemy and your allies didn't care about your feelings. It's still an all time classic movie top 5
Yeah, woke culture has eliminated shaming which was a big societal tool for keeping people from slipping into pathetic states. It motivated people to do better. Too bad liberals are dragging down our people.
4 year Army Vet here.. Im not a Marine but my Drill Seargent was just as rough as this guy, except he was African American, lol.. We called him "DS Damn" because he would say something crazy to you and say Damn 3 times in one sentence.. lol.. awesome compilation!
I’m an Alumni of Parris Island 3rd Battalion India Co. THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS!!! You can make a 1 hour movie on Boot Camp by itself. More material than you could ever imagine. Funny, thrilling, horror, intense, sad, hilarious, etc….
For those wondering, yes, Marine Corps boot camp was this intense. MC boot camp is still the longest and most difficult of all the branches. In recent years they have made some changes since obviously they cant do or say stuff like this anymore. However, the intensity by drill instructors is still insane like this. I was punched in the throat by my DI simply for making eye contact with him as he walked by. He then flipped over my footlocker and dumped the contents out and told me i had ten seconds to get everything cleaned up as he stood over me ready to throw another one. People need to understand that Marines are the only branch of the U.S. military that is made solely for combat. Every Marine is a rifleman first and foremost. By the time you leave boot camp you are a killer or they wash you out
A humanitarian is always a hypocrite, was observed by Kipling and his later commentary developed into : People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - used by Churchil
When I was in Navy bootcamp at Great Lakes in 88, my company commander was a 6 foot 5 raging asshole. But his co-commander was even scarier than the guy in Full Metal Jacket. He was a short Filipino dude who could make you pee in your pants with a look. He rarely yelled, but when he did you know hell was coming to all of us.
Ermey was originally hired as a technical advisor for the movie, but his intensity was so great they gave him the role. i wonder if anyone recognizes private pile, he was the bug in men in black
Also started in Law and Order spinoff Criminal Intent where he played a whip smart detective with a lot of personal baggage. Tremendously nuanced performances.
Civilians don't understand how vital this kind of training is. The whole point is to keep recruits under constant and increasing physical and psychological pressure throughout training until they adapt and can carry out their tasks stressed exhausted and barely coherent. This prepares them to survive in combat when stress will be much higher and sleep will become a distant memory. Unfortunately civilians keep interfering in a process they don't understand and see as cruel constant trying to restrict the armies ability to prepare soldiers for war. For example Pvt. Joker talked back undermining the instructors authority allowing the instructor to strike him something no longer allowed but Pvt. Pile hadn't done anything to justify physical punishment which is why the instructor ordered him to choke himself using the instructor's hand therfore obaying the letter of the regulation but still making his point. Instructor's constantly have to find creative ways to maximise the training while avoiding breaking stupid rules made by politicians who don't understand the reason for the training. If you're not stressed and exhausted and in constant fear/hatred of your instructor the training has no value and will not prepare you for combat. While some drill instructor's are malicious psychopath's who enjoy bullying recruit's for fun they are a tiny minority and usually despised by the others. Being selected as a DI for training new recruits is a sign your commander's see real leadership potential in a soldier because they are literally being trusted with the future of the army. So almost all are smart dedicated and utterly professional knowing their performance as an instructor will define their future career.
This movie portrays this character's actions as negative though. In this movie, he pretty much bullies a man until he breaks, kills himself, and this drill sergeant. This movie disagrees with you. The soldiers that don't die in combat are taught how to kill themselves emotionally, kill others physically, and in alot of cases, eventually kill themselves physically after they get home from the war. Did the training make them better soldiers? Probably. But it often irreversibly damages their minds, and ever since WWII, America hasn't been in a war that makes the dehumanizing of thousands of young boys a necessary sacrifice for the sake of humanity. It just isn't worth it.
I once heard a Navy officer say something that an Air Force sergeant later corroborated. The most important thing to learn in training, and if you learn nothing else, is to make good decisions in highly stressful environments.
@@TheMojoWorks Which shows you've entirely missed the point of that characters story. During the Vietnam war the government lowered recruiting standards. His character was clearly mentally impaired and should never have been allowed to join. Usually a recruitment officer would have identified that and rejected his enlistment or the instructor would have marked him as a failure and given him an administrative discharge. Unfortunately during war time with the minimum standards lowered they didn't have that option. PTSD isn't caused by military service or training. It tends to be caused when the training fails to prepare the soldiers for the experiences they suffer in combat and a lack of adequate support afterwards. While no training can ever hope to prepare men to deal with everything they might face tougher training weeds out those who are not mentally strong enough to cope and strengthens those with the capacity to handle the pressure. And if given proper treatment recover. But by far one of he biggest causes of mental illness in veterans is loss of belief that their sacrifices were justified. When snotty little liberal arts students and hand wringing politicians betray them for power and virtue signaling abandoning the mission before it's complete it makes all their suffering and the loss of their friends worthless.
Absolute wives' tale horseshit, entirely ahistorical, and the type of speculative uninformed bullshit that buck privates and other junior enlisted personnel tell each other to appear knowledgeable and wise to their buddies. All of those decisions are made within the chain of command. The only input that any civilians have comes in the form of general orders issued by the president, who is the only civilian empowered to issue any orders whatsoever, when so directed though laws enacted by the Congress. Members of Congress do not have enough floor time in each legislative session to micromanage such granular concerns by legislative fiat. If they pass a law that says, in essence, "don't be so mean to the recruits because it gives us a big ol' wet boo-hoo," its specific implementation is left entirely up to the officers and enlisted ranks responsible for the areas affected by it as part of their regular duties. If you want to wax melancholic about how all the pussies among the general public are preventing you from hanging a pair of truck nuts on your chevrons, there is nothing stopping you from knowing what the fuck you're talking about first.
I graduated boot camp at Parris Island in June 1985. With a few exceptions, this is spot on. The biggest difference is that there would have been at least 2-3 other drill instructors screaming at everyone.
Right. One senior drill instructor and usually 2 or 3 juniors. The other oddity in this movie is that I have NEVER seen a drill instructor that held the rank of Gunnery Sergeant. There were a very few Corporals and a few Staff Sergeants (always a Senior DI from my experience). The vast majority of DIs were Sergeants. While I went through Boot Camp (SD), my Senior was promoted to Staff and another (that we all looked at as the least intimidating and least experienced) was promoted from Cpl to Sgt.
I had a weird company where after the first couple of weeks we were down to only one drill sergeant (Army, not USMC). Thankfully he was as tough as a plank of teak and could teach archery to a rock, but in hindsight I realize that was way too much for one guy to have to shoulder week after week. We probably had a more relaxed final phase in some ways because he simply couldn’t be everywhere to torment us with grenade simulators, but he put in crazy hours to keep my band of miscreants evolving out of our primordial scum (his words, minus some Anglo-Saxon). You really need a pair, bare minimum, three is better.
@@kingleech16 Wow! Training/Controlling a platoon of recruits is WAY too much work for a single DI/DS! It would be interesting to know the story behind why his Command would allow that to happen.
I got to meet R Lee Ermey over 30 years ago in SoCal..Though he was a real Gunny in the Corps he’s nothing like this in real life..Lol Totally laid back guy-spoken and direct but you can see it in his eyes..He’s for real Gone too soon.. RIP
Doesnt it make it more enjoyable to see the younger people react? I laugh because this verbal stuff is so true LOL. Its been said and then some. I miss some of the yelling I was subjected to now that I look back haha.
Hilarious watching the youngsters react to this language. I grew up around truckers, loggers and military so I heard all of this and worse lol. Ironically none of it stuck with me thanks be to the Lord. 😂
I’m a little surprised at some of the naive reactions. In boot camp, they train people to go to war. They psychologically break people down and rebuild them for war, it’s no joke. Solders have been subjected to this sort of training since the ancient Greeks and Spartans, if not longer.
It’s an anti-war film; their reactions are exactly what Kubrick wanted. No part of this movie is romanticized for the sake of visuals, the horrors are laid plain and the casualness at which it was committed is kept. The average person is supposed to be disgusted because war is disgusting. Whatever reasons you can come up with to justify the horror and cruelty are just that: justifications that the film does not agree with.
Yep, but he's right about the naive part... they just don’t have a clue. I'm 55, and i've watched this movie in theatre when it came out. I was 18 and i thought "The drill instructor is too much over the top, he's a unbelievable character". Later i went into the army, there was the civil war in the balcans and my company was among the ones included in the nato expeditionary force in a war zone At that point, i learned the hard way that the movie was spot on about drill instructors.
To characterize it as only an "anti-war" film I think does it injustice. It's more complicated than that. Yes war is cruel and horrible and should be avoided whenever possible. But the film captures a duality that exists in mankind regarding war and destruction. Joker symbolizes this with the peace sign on his helmet while having Born To Kill written on it as well. Joker realizes he is against the war but may well have to kill in order to get back home alive. Same thing with Animal Mother and Joker. Animal Mother is the version of what Joker would have become had he not snapped in boot camp. I think the film tells us not to glorify war as it is a terrible thing. Humans however have gone to war throughout our history and will continue to do so. To say war is not a part of the human condition is to shy away from a fundamental truth about ourselves.
Perhaps I should clarify my original post. I was referring to some very specific reactions. I am not trying to be critical of the individual reactors either. They just struck me as very naive (innocent, unaware) of what goes on in boot camps and why. As if, perhaps, they never even thought about or considered boot camps, military training, and war in their lives. 3:00 “Why is he saying that?”; 3:48 “Why do they have to yell at them like that?”; 8:50 “He’s so mean”; 9:40 Look at his face, he’s going to laugh…that would be me…”; 15:41 He shouldn’t curse like this in the military…It’s tough but, I think we should have manners”.
My Pops was a Drill Sergeant during WWII and Korean War It’s like old home week , Pops was tough but fair hard but very loving he passed at the age of 95 last year and I miss him so much .
What also must be realized is that many of us have some sort of PTSD that we cannot describe or escape. Some handle it better than others but emotions on the battlefield will get you and your buddy killed.
@TheBlackTrapper depends on when they served .... what British D.I's were allowed to do and say changed in the mid 90's . Any British Veteran before that will remember the verbal abuse, and having their beds, bed packs and kit tossed down the room or thrown out of the window on kit inspection
That is a classic. Everybody in it was perfect. All drill sergeants, afterwards in real life, that drilled after the movie came out, had a whole new level in excellence in "burns and bars" to achieve to.
My dad was a Marine forward observer in Korea. He passed on in 94 but he was able to see this movie and assured me that the drills in his day were even much worse. That is what made America great. I enlisted in the Army and went in in 95. I can assure you that today’s military does not hold a candle to yesterdays. Semper Fi.
When I watched Full Metal Jacket, the hair on the back of my neck stood up, when I heard the Gunny. I immediately knew he had been a real drill instructor in the USMC. The boot camp part was pretty spot on. Everyone got nicknames. We had a skinny kid who fell, when we were doing the sea bag drag. The sea bag weighed more than he did. Our Senior DI grabbed him by the neck, and was slapping the 💩 out of him, and there was a full bird Colonel standing there. He immediately did an about face. He didn’t see a thing. I still crack up when I think about some of the things I saw. It was a good experience.
Hahahaha! I love these scenes! And yes, it was just like that when I went through basic! Some guys break down and cry some guys like me just start laughing! I can’t even count the number of pushups I did! They were tough but we were machines at the end and I still have a soft spot in my heart for Drill sergeant Lopez!
My father told me a story about his drill Sargent when he joined the Army prior to Vietnam. When we were watching this together he said the drill Sargent said the same "Only steers and queers come from Texas! And I don't see any horns!", to him(We're from Texas). According to Dad, he somehow indicated is groin and said something like, "My horn is down there." Don't know if it's true, but I guarantee Dad didn't give a F. So I believe him.🤣
I went through basic training in 1983 and I would say it was about 25% less abusive than this, but no more than that. From the drill sergeant giving 'remedial training' behind the barracks, to telling us how to deal with troops among us who failed to shower frequently enough.... which involved Comet cleaner and toilet brushes. What a great movie.
Lee said he went way over the top on purpose, after he saw the movie for the first time, he felt crappy about it, but glad the people like his character.
I had the same problem with people washing at Ft. Sam Houston TX. This paticular zero was so bad that people running behind him in formation would get nauseous and fall out! I had two retread Air Policemen in my platoon, I took his uniforms to the laundry and these two scrubbed him down with floor brushes and soap while he bitched and cried like we were breaking his heart. 🙄🤢
@@johncox6321 We went to the drill to complain about it. He told us he 'wasn't going to be there everytime a smelly trainee got toilet brushed with Comet in the shower after us drills are gone for the night'.... with a shit eating grin that told us everything we needed to know. I later became a US Weapons instructor, and it constantly made me ask myself 'was I this damn stupid when I came through here?' Yeah, I was.
In an interview, R. Lee Ermey said that he considered Vincent D'Onofrio to be the best part of the film, easily. He also said in other interviews that as hard and abusive as DIs could be, they'd also be in the mess hall every day, reading the names of soldiers who'd died in Vietnam. They took the losses very personally.
My Grandpa was a Gunnery Sgt. in the Marines Corp also served 2 tours in Korea 3 Purple Hearts Bronze metal . And these scenes is the old Corp. and brought a smile to my grandpa when he 1st saw this movie . Because this was him and reminded him of the Marines that he knew 👍🏼
I grew up in the ‘70’s & ‘80’s and a close family friend that joined the marines and went to boot camp in 1970 told me this movie gave him goosebumps: he said this was exactly what his experience was and that R Lee was EXACTLY like his drill instructor. Great movie!
Saw this in theaters with a bunch of other troops, all branches, in the local college town. We were hooting, hollering, cheering, and laughing our asses off. The civilians looked like they'd been shot. "It's not really like that is it?" "Apart from the punching it's exactly like that."
My father went to Army boot camp in 1970. He said his drill instructor said some things that were so funny, he wouldn't punish recruits if they snickered.
I was Army. All of our drills were Nam vets. Tough as nails. This was pretty much my basic training. I was one of only two troops in my platoon who were regular army, all the rest were national guard or reserve. To say that one other guy and me were singled out time and time again is an understatement. Made me grow up fast and I am a better man because of it!
This takes me back to the Army, Ft. Jackson, SC Basic Training 1984. It was exactly like this. I even got a "shower conference" punch to set me straight. It wasn't until afterwards that I realized nothing was personal, the drills had a job to do, a difficult one but a necessity. Spent 9 yrs in until injured. R. Lee Ermey, RIP...a legend.
OMFG! B-11-4, Ft. Jackson, SC. 9/09/1976... I have some bitter memories about the Tank Hill, did you get to run up the awesome trio? (Mt. Misery, Mt. Agony and Mt. Mother F****r? The three infamous sand hills on base?) I had to while on buivoac... 🥵🤬 They got us off the cattle car when we got to the company area and had us dump our personal items and issue to confiscate any "contraband items." Then we had to pack back up and run up to and around Tank Hill and back with everything on our backs and arms... my recruiter was my Uncle by marriage, and my Father was a three war combat veteran, they both told me to carry only what I had on my back... some of the others actually brought two or more suitcases full of stuff and had to run with all that stuff AND their issue... thanks Uncle Vic, thanks Dad!,😂
To the youngsters who are in the video watching this and to some of you out there. I was in Marine Boot Camp on Parris Island in early 1976. When I saw this in the theater when it came out with my wife beside me I literally started breaking out in a sweat. This was a spot on portrayal of my time at PI. Language, physical abuse and all. R. Lee Ermy really didn't have to act. He was just re-living his life as a D.I.
My senior instructor was going through a divorce and his wife was taking him to the cleaners. He went beyond insane on us and did a lot of things that finally got him kicked out and barely escaped a courts martial. We were too scared to say anything but luckily several other instructors figured it out and got the first shirt involved.
I was in boot camp from 58 to 62 and I’m telling you this is very real!!! These drill instructors job was to go into brain as hard as they could, b/c if you couldn’t take boot camp you will not make it in combat!! This is the very heart of becoming a MARINE!! SEMPER FI
I went through Parris Island boot camp in 1981, 3rd Bn, I Co. And this clip is a fairly accurate description of of how Drill Instructors interact with recruits, but imagine 3 of them hounding your ass 24/7. 😂
I love to watch how the reactors stop laughing when Hartman torments Private Pyle. And as Spanish I say it, you must try to watch this movie in the dub from Spain, because the strong language in the scenes of Sergeant Hartman hear in Spanish language is terrific in the best way. And R. Lee Ermey was a true gem who after Full Metal Jacket did a great carrier with titles as David Fincher's Seven or spoofing himself in Peter Jackson's The Frighteners. Such a talented actor. RIP.
I have my own personal basic training story I would like to share with everyone. On my first day, one of my drill sergeants told me to take something and put it in a pile of Contraband items, which I did while screaming a hearty, yes, drill sergeant. I was not looking where I was going and ran headfirst into another drill sergeant whom I bowled over completely. I stood there paralyzed then suddenly every drill sergeant in the room focused in on me, screaming at the top of their lungs I was going to be going to prison for assault and battery on a non-commissioned officer. I was only 18, so I really didn't know what to say, I ended up doing go back front and more push-ups, and you'll ever know. I think my hand prints are permanently imprinted in the concrete, but I made it. Believe it or not, I was having trouble with BRM, which is basic rifle marksmanship because I was not wearing my glasses. The drill sergeant from my first day was the one who encouraged me and helped me to qualify as a marksman. It was my first accomplishment in the army but not the last.
R. Lee Ermey was doing his scenes without a script. He was told to just be a drill instructor like he was in real life.
He deliberately played a bad drill instructor, who was overstepping his bounds.
@@everforward5561 fact is during my days in the military except for the hitting he wasn’t overstepping anything. Now days it’s to damn soft.
@@chriswilliams5982 That's why this is an anti-war film though, to us civilians this is unhinged because the drill instructor is trying to toughen up these men so they can be killers
@@chriswilliams5982 I believe Ermey said the weren't supposed to hit them either, but at the height of Nam they had cut about a 1/4 of basic training out to get them out faster. So, they used the physical stuff as a shortcut for the time of proper training!
@@Nic-ye2yz I agree. I was twice wounded in a firefight three months into my 2nd tour in Nam. I saw guys crack under the weight of battle. Guys who had endured the baptism of fire, and I never saw them as anything but victims of a pointless war. I remember watching Full Metal Jacket and being disgusted and angry because Stanley Kubrick caught the brutality and inhumanity of not only Vietnam, but all war. From boot camp to the battlefield it just shows the insanity of it all.
R. Lee Ermey served in Vietnam. He received honorary promotion to Gunnery Sergeant in 2002. He died in 2018 aged 74.
I respect anyone who served in a combat zone. I have mad respect for combat vets. R. Lee Army was a supply sergeant in Vietnam, so I respect his service
RIP Gunny Ermey… Semper Fi
There is where he got his fame he was there to be a advisor instead he took over the role when the actor couldn't do the job. R.Lee Ermey RIP sir yes sir.
I got to meet him back in 2007. Great guy.
He got this role because he kept criticizing the original actor 😆
I am a marine who served from 1980-1984. This is an absolute accurate representation of what happened in bootcamp. Break you down to build you up, brings back many found memories. Semper fi!!
This movie is about the closest representation of boot camp as it was. Served MCRD SD 1978-82. The screaming is absolutely necessary. You better listen up or your ass is grasped. Basically one is being trained to become killers. American tax payers are footing the bill. After all these years I'm still Gung Ho. As are many who took the abuse at one end and came out the other to earn the title MARINE. Semper Fi
Was still very much the same in 2008-2012 when I served. Ohh Rah brothers
1st btl. C co. 88. Semper Fi bro.
thank you for your service sir, my dad was in the Army during the Korean War he was a Motor Sgt.
@@eyespyyourspy1328Bro same. 2008-2012. Good years to get in and get out. Semper fi
I was a Drill Sergeant in the Army from 86-89. I was taking a communications class in college where the teacher asked all of us to give some background. When I mentioned that I was a Tanker/Cav Scout and a Drill Sergeant several people actually gasped and one of them asked me why we are so mean. I told them that the training soldiers in a combat arms specialty means I am training people to kill people and if they run they not only get killed, they get people who depend on them killed as well. If they can't take me yelling at them they definitely can't take people shooting at them so they need to be weeded out to save lives and help us to win. After that they seemed to understand why we do what we do.
19kilo til death.....we die in place👍👍
USMC Tanker here
You have to program them (recruits) to act think eat sleep shit run and BE a soldier. When yer 17-19. You have NOT A CLUE on how to BE All You Can BE. Thats ANY of the 5 branches.
Semp Fi 👊
Where were you a Drill Sergeant? I went through Ft. Benning in late 88. Mad respect for all of them.
Thank you, Drill Sergeant!
The first 20-30minutes of "Full Metal Jacket" are some of the greatest opening scenes out of any movie, ever!! 😂😅 I love R. Emery!
Exactly! It is masterful! 💯❤️
But as soon as Gomer dies the movie gets boring
I could not agree more.
RIP Lee Ermey, he was a Great Marine!
RAH!!!
I am a Marine who served from 88-93. This is a fairly accurate depiction of what boot-camp was like. The drill instructors job was to try to break you, and many could not hack it, but those of us that did came out of that training feeling and looking absolutely bulletproof. Our enemies will not let us use timeout cards and safe spaces during battle, if you are not mentally tough you are a detriment to the Corps. Semper Fi
Thank you for your service
Charles - agreed. The weak are out and only the ones mentally ready to do what has to be done made the cut. Good night Chesty wherever you are.
Parris Island 1986 2nd Batt Fox Company platoon 2086. Senior Drill Instructor Kenneth. Dislocated both knees in 2nd Phase. Medically discharged. This movie gave me nightmares 😂😂😂😂 Brother did 2.5 years in Iraq. 1st Batt recon, LAV commander. Ermy was a national treasure!!!
When I was at PI, we still were in the white two story barracks. By the time my brother got there they had all moved to the three story brick barracks. My only problem with this movie.😂😂😂😂
🙄. Get over yourself
"You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!" I love that insult because it almost sounds like a compliment.
Almost, until you remember Picasso.
Also the line “I didn’t know they stacked s**t that high” lol
Well, seeing how 4:20 spotted Vincent Donofrio as the Kingpin, he also played Edgar the roach in the original Men in Black, and he played Detective Goren on Law and Order Criminal Intent. Gomer Pyle was a singer from back in the day and I think he was a Marine. Another few famous Marines include Gene Hackman (Lex Luthor in the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, Harold the blind guy in Young Frankenstein), Harvey Keitel(Satan in Little Nicky, Winston Wolf in Pulp Fiction), and Adam Driver(Kylo Ren)
I still use that one once in a while!
My favorite line was "the best part of you ran down the crack of your mother's ass and ended up a brown stain on the mattress"
When the 2nd one asked "why do they have to yell at em like that?" I busted out laughing.
Most of them that react with comments like really show how soft and sheltered people have become and don't understand the reason behind it.
Love how the women are horrified at the language and the men laugh at the ingenuity
Because the Men understand exactly why He's doing it. It weeds out weak minded
@@CivilizedOutlaw Yup, once someone gets recycled a few weeks it shapes up even the most disrespectful non conformers.
@@CivilizedOutlaw .... so they weed them out. unless there are no dropouts then that's what they are doing.
Men are used to being yelled at, especially when they were children.
This is one of the funniest scenes in the HISTORY OF CINEMA! Slays me every time! So I was really surprised to see just how many reactors (men and women alike), being shocked and scared instead of amused. I don't know if it's where I grew up, how I grew up, or WHEN I grew up, but all the women I know laugh as hard as I do at this scene!
R Lee Ermey was NOT originally supposed to be this character in the movie. He was just there to write insults, but after he wrote over 100 lines, they decided he should be the character. The actor who was SUPPOSED to be the drill instructor ended up being the guy shooting people out of the helicopter.
Yeah. I think it was the door gunner in the helicopter who was supposed to play the drill instructor.
Wild Animal?!?! Who knew? 😮
R Lee Ermey always wanted to be cast in a Stanley Kubrick movie, and initially settled as a consultant. When the original actor wasn't cutting it, Kubrick let him do some blocking on camera, and everyone was so impressed that he was cast on the spot.
"you just don't lead them as much"
@@Davidofthelostthat's what I was told by Gunny
The Drill Sergeant’s abuse is an act of love. While those boys are at Paris Island, he’s doing everything he can do to help them come back from Vietnam alive.
The abuse is always a matter of debate. Is it helpful or not. When Brute commanded MCRD, he saw a DI strike a recruit and told him to remove his coverm stomp on it and wait in his quarters for transfer orders.
No it's not.... Remind me of "All Quiet on the Western Front", this militaristic masochism was a norm for centuries in all European/western armies. It's efficiency was quite debatable.
R Lee Ermey actually said that Hartman was a TERRIBLE drill instructor because any drill instructor would know that Pyle is NOT mentally competent for the marines and should be sent home and not drafted
If you can't handle being yelled at and treated like dirt. Then u can't handle bullets going over your head and explosives going off.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Welcome to corps
Right on....not for the weak.
Amen to that!
I started basic in 1975 and it was much like this. Ermy was a master of the Marine Corps yelp and our drills did not do that, but they were every bit as nasty and mean and also just as funny. They did not train men back then to be decent citizens but killers and that is what the military needed. I loved this movie until they got to Viet Nam and then it became a hippie propaganda flic.
As a Marine who served from 87-92.. I can tell you that the opening sequence of recieving day is very realistic. Its not funny when your there.. but after a time and when you look back Drill Instructors are funny AF! Yes they are hard. Yeas they are calous.. The enemy we will confont in battle wont be giving out hugs and saftey pins.. SFMF
Semper Fi Marine, thank you.
I had a buddy in the Marines about 92. He also said this was accurate.
😂😂😂 #SEMPERFI #MUTH*FU*KA!!!
I was in Boot in 1999. Obviously the racial stuff wasn't said by that point but yeah DIs definitely go up and down the squad bay like that berating you, making you do PT, they don't (often) put hands on you but it wasn't out of the question either. And they tell you when you arrive DIs aren't supposed to swear but that's a total PR lie; they swear freely and openly most of them.
They break you down and build you back hard! HOORAH!!!
Lee Ermey was a real-life Marine drill instructor before becoming an actor. He served in the United States Marine Corps from 1961 to 1972, rising to the rank of Staff Sergeant. During his service, he was a drill instructor at Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego from 1965 to 1967 and later served in Vietnam and Okinawa.
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Welcome home
03, Bronze Star, Purple Heart: no need to say more: respect.
Semper Fi Gunny & Welcome Home.
What I'll add to what the Gunny said, that the USMC helps those who need direction is: I thought I had no interest in being a teacher because as a young man I thought only a job with a big salary was worth pursuing. But eventually I discovered from my time in the service that I really enjoyed helping Marines pass annual rifle qualification. Talking them through remaining calm, drilling the technique, and succeeding to hit the bullseye with some urgency. Looking back I spent many hours sweating in the field doing nothing but observing the sun cross the sky or insects crawl along the sand. Hurry up and wait. But I believe that I did make a difference improving Marines' rifle marksmanship, and some of them later deployed to Iraq. Hopefully I contributed some to them coming home and their enemies going to hell. Discovering that purpose led me to pursue teaching as a profession. I don't know that I'd have followed that path if I had only ever been a civilian. The Marines give you a lot of responsibilities at a younger age than nearly any other job and you may find unexpected capabilities within yourself.
@@drewwesely8853 Well said Drew Semper FI!
What do you think of the new path the last commandant set the Marines on? Retired the heavy armor and the bridging units. He turned the marines into a decentralized Island coastal defense force. I know some old Marine officers who are livid about this.
FYI, I was Army not Marines which I left to my younger brother.
Well said Marine, and thank you for your service. I will never say Ex Marine but only former Marine.
I cannot believe that there are this many people that have not seen just one of the greatest movie ever made.
We need to remove all rocks in the effing US of A so people can't live under them and learn about the world as it is.
For real! A classic
I found the movie 'The Boys of Company C' had better basic training scenarios.
Lol! Okay
He should have won an oscar.
No doubt !!!!!
everyone is so offended watching this and I'm over laughing my ass off.
Yeah I know funny how they get offended so easy.
Pansies clutching their pearls.
That's why D.I.s aren't like this anymore. Today's generation are such snowflakes, they'd last about 2 minutes in the Marines with R. Lee Ermey as their D.I.
They're literally not because they are laughing at it. It is possible to find something offensive while not being offended yourself.
There was a lot of "OMG"--not laughing going on too.
When my son was 5, I told him that his mother used anger to intimidate and get her way. And I didn't want that for him.
So I had him stand in the garage for 5 seconds while I yelled and threatened him. I told him I would be asking if he felt anything tightening or any reactions.
He said he did not and asked if he could go go play. 13 years later, he came home from basic and said that was the best thing I ever taught him.
He saw grown men break down and cry because the DI yelled at them. He had THREE DIs yelling and simply thought, "They are not mad at me. It's a game."
They recommended him for OCS, Officers Candidate School, which he declined.
How and when was he recommended for OCS? You realize there are some who have knowledge on the subject in this comment thread.
I don’t know. I will ask him. Perhaps after AIT?
@@emzee586 He says now that it did not happen.
But I remember the time and place when he told me.
Maybe trying to make dad proud ?
But thanks for calling me a liar.
This is also one of the first things they do to new inductees to Scientology, during their Training Rundown exercises. Somehow Lewis Carroll's book Alice in Wonderland is involved, I think maybe you have to recite passages from it while someone is yelling at you or something similar, but I may be getting two of the TRs mixed up in my head.
@@stevejette2329 The question of whether he qualifies for OCS would have been handled prior to his assignment to basic training, possibly during initial recruitment, depending on his level of education. Whatever memory you're looking for is going to be from the time period before he got his head shaved, if that helps.
None of these kids would have survived the 80's. 😂
My father was an Army Drill Sergeant two different times, he was infantry, Vietnam vet, EIB, CIB, Airborne. He passed away in the 70s. He told me that it is an act that they put on to get into the heads of the recuits. To make them more afraid of the DIs than the tasks and training which was incredibly dangerous. When I went to Army basic in 84 it was exactly like this just like my father had told me. I was never afraid, i was a bit of a smart ass being an army DI brat. Dad had already taught me to shoot and handle a rifle so when I was issued mine I was better trained and experienced than the rest of the recruits. My DIs asked me where I learned to shoot like that and I told them about my dad being a drill sergeant in these very barracks 15 years earlier, which he was. My first Army unit was in the same building as my dads last.
Cool story man.
I am anxious to know what the DIs said that your dad was a DI in these same barracks.
What a proud feeling it must have been! To this day I wish I had attempted to serve, to see if I had what it took to become a US Marine. My folks asked if I wanted to join the Marines or get my Masters degree (they saw a lot of friends die during Nam and were willing to support my education in lieu of the military) but to this day I question my decision. It always upsets me when people are unbelievably disrespectful and act like joining the military is “a fallback”. Thank you for your service. I've always wondered what a respectful way to thank veterans is, and I'm happy to hear any recommendations you have. I imagine that walking into the local VFW and buying a round isn't the top of the list?
Only 0.04% of the population has ever been called Marines. We are not called the few and proud for nothing. After we earned the eagle globe and anchor we all are brothers forever.
Semper Fi.
Dang straight 1981 - 2001 Semper Fi and happy birthday Marines
I thank each of you for your service to our country. I come from a military family with several Marines and I appreciate what y'all went through to earn that proud title. Semper Fi and happy birthday to the Corps
Thank you all for your service and Semper Fi.
Happy anniversary. Semper Fi.
Folks, he's not being mean. He's being kind, because they may face the most horrifying situations imaginable and must be able to survive them. The Drill Instructor's job is to prepare them for anything and still be able to perform their duties. If one man does not do his job, then entire unit could be killed. Imagine seeing the guy next have his face blown off or a friend holding his guts in. Imagine being captured, tortured and humiliated in a prison camp. Imagine facing certain death and needing the ability to go anyway.
This is not cruel. It is necessary.
My dad was in the Vietnam war and he said they had to be this cruel, they were preparing these men to kill and die.
This generation could not handle that type of training, period.
This is so soft we have no future warriors THANKS TO THE LEFT
As a person who came from a different background than most americans, lived in a different country while growing up and life was harsh, going to Army bootcamp didn't feel hard ( emotional side ), unlike other guys who i saw there, shit i'm not even your average american guy who's tall and even me who was supposed to "struggle", i did not, i saw like 10 people or more drop out, some due to not being able to PT / pass PT tests / endure emotional stress
Most due to the latter one, i was surprised tbh
( this was like 7 years ago )
...We (Americans) get weaker with each generation.
And they don't anymore. MCRD in SD let's women go there now like Parris Island. It's a joke.
We will never be able to slug it out again, watch the faces they get all offended by name calling and yelling
When I was in Navy boot camp in 1992, our drill instructor looked like Sargent Carter in the face, had a body like Schwarzenegger & yelled like this guy! This is 100% how it is in real life!
😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂
This was my boot camp!!!
All older Marine vets just laugh watching this movie!
What these young people don't understand this was 100% accurate.
Semper Fi
So True, Brother. Me: USMC San Diego MCRD 1970. Semper Fi Forever!
Air Force TI veteran here, 1982. The real scary part here is that probably 80% or more of todays youth wouldn't last one day in this environment. They have become so very soft that I'm not sure if we could win a war against Aruba.
Even younger people from other branches will 😂
The old Army went through the same treatment ! Army 1968 - 1970 !
In from 1989-2010. It was like this.
Nowadays they're too soft on recruits
Until this film came out, no one had seen a monologue like this except for the Marines who had gone through boot camp during this time period. It is not an exaggeration to say that this scene shocked the whole nation. It instantly became legendary, and in the period between the film's release in theaters and its first television broadcast on cable TV (on the HBO premium channel if I am remembering correctly), it was spoken of in hushed tones of reverence and awe usually reserved for shameful family secrets or tales of great daring or luck during one's criminal adventures.
Talking to Marines who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, Marines still watch this scene with reverence and admiration.
/My hat's off to the crazy SOBs who will watch that scene and decide, "I'm going to be a Marine some day."
Now that's what I call a cool fuckin story
The fact that 30 years later a large portion is censored and a new generation is completely in shock with this movie is so funny.
That movie is a masterpiece... it is weird to even think that there are people that haven't seen it:)
And it's been around since the 80's
The ending is crazy. The female sniper was just picking them off one by one. Then after they got her, they just let her bleed out and walked off singing the Mickey Mouse song 😂
This and the one with Clint Eastwood
@@joshuatift4640 heartbreak ridge
There are people in the thirties and forties who have never heard of Pink Floyd.
“Wipe that stupid smile off your face!”
“Sir! Yes sir!”
“ *WELL ANY FUCKING TIME SWEETHEART* “
“Sir I’m trying sir!” 🙂
Dear younger people....this is how it was, and we delt with it. If you can't handle a little artificial stress caused by someone yelling at you, what use are you going to be to anyone beside you when the bullets start hitting people? Things started changing in the mid 80's...the young ones couldn't handle the stress...of someone yelling at them...weak, just weak. I hope you watch Saving Private Ryan next to understand why this was done. This was easy, combat isn't. Think about it.
And how exactly is it our fault we’re “weak” ? Because our parents generation didn’t teach us to be strong? Your generation would be the same as us under the same circumstances.
@aydanscott9871 You're weak, you wouldn't have survived then and you're gonna hide under your bed in the future 😂
R. Lee Ermey had been a film consultant for many years, and was a consultant on this film. When the actor playing the drill instructor was not giving the performance that Kubrick wanted, he asked Ermey to demonstrate, and Ermey essentially improvised this scene. Kubrick released the other actor and replaced him with Ermey who was given a great deal of free reign to do what he thought was appropriate - something that was very rare in a Kubrick film since he normally planned out scenes so meticulously.
"Any fucking time sweetheart" is my go - to line when people are being tardy.
I don't use that, but I will say, "Well, any day" or "Sometime today" for people moving slow. I was not a Drill Instructor, but every Marine has the "Drill Instructor Voice", which can be used to motivate people from time to time.
Holy shit you're cool. Tell the story again?
@@winstonmarlowe5254 Any fucking time, Sweetheart.
Me at a traffic light behind some idiot who doesn't move when it turns green 😂😂😂
Same, it's where I got it from. I think of it especially when waiting in line.
THIS MOVIE NEVER GETS OLD
I was an active duty Marine 1988-1992. What this scene doesn't show; there are four drill instructors raising hell. Not just the Senior.
Yeah, but it still brings back nightmares/laughs. I don't remember the names of any of them but my senior. Gunney Kenneth. Tough as nails, hard as concrete, but if you were worthy, a great mentor. Miss those times
The day I got there they stormed on the bus screaming and all the kids that said they'd fight the DIs if they got in their faces just folded completely, one of them cried. It's always the "tough" ones.
@@solomonpachowiak106 Always the guys running their mouths like they are back on the block that are the first to break.
@@alienresearchlab I was scared shitless but the fear eventually turned into respect. My family is all Marine and they all said the same thing, but nothing could have prepared me for the sheer shitstorm presence of the DI's. But as it transitioned to respect I was able to draw the line between my experience and the personality traits of my family members I always admired.
Except my brother; he wound up going force rec and turned into an arrogant prick. He always had to remind everyone in my family that he was somehow "more" Marine than everyone else. But life is rough all over I guess.
@@solomonpachowiak106 When they dumped all the footlockers in a pile in the middle and started the countdown to: 'get your gear' I knew I was in trouble. LOL!
My husband was in the Marine Corps boot camp training in Camp Pendleton in California. When I first met him in Camp Lejuine North Carolina, he had just recently left boot camp. Through the years of our marriage he still had nightmares from his boot camp for awhile. Sadly he passed away 2 years ago with the Marine Corps funeral he always wanted. He loved being a Marine.
I'm very sorry for your loss. You speak of him with love. That means everything.
Respect.🫡
The range and rftd are at Pendleton, everything else is next the the airport in San Diego. Semper Fi.
He was real and that scene was real enough! Imagine 8 weeks of that and yes, there were beatings.
Vietnam combat vet '68-'69
3:52 my Drill Sergeant explained it to me like this (after graduation from Basic Training), “Private, we have exactly 13 weeks to take a punk kid off the street and train him to hopefully survive combat, you can’t do that being nice…”
The first time someone actually tries to kill you in a combat zone basic/boot makes a lot more sense, it isn't 1% as hard, intense or awful as watching your friends bleed out and then killing the enemy and having to live with that afterwards
what most don't know is he was allowed to do his own monologue for most of the movie since he was a marine drill sergeant in real life
Instructor. :)
JnEricsonx, is absolutely correct. If youre ever in, don't call them that. Lol It's DI. Always DI.
@@91GT347 I never was, but some things I do know.
R. Lee Ermey, a vastly underrated actor. RIP ❤
Sadly my first exposure to him was in spongebob.
I was about 3 feet away from R. Lee Ermey on my 3rd day of boot camp (still in receiving) in December 2004. He was obviously retired from the Corps and well into his acting career, but he still seemingly had free rein to hang around MCRD in San Diego as he saw fit. It was one of the few times I ever saw multiple DIs let their guard down as they all admired and aspired to be like him. They mess with you from the second you get off that bus and I hadn’t slept yet, and the whole thing didn’t feel entirely real.
God, I remember receiving, hectic, loud....you knew immediately after leaving those yellow footprints that you were in a whole new world. I remember the receiving Drill Instructors were nicer and more calm, but still firm. They were instructors who were rotating out and it was used as part of the reintegration process for them. I remember that first haircut, looking in the mirror as they were telling us how to shave. Not sleeping for the first day and a half. I remember being shocked that that as the first graduating class of the new year we were allowed to watch the Rose Bowl, as it coincided with the phase where we were getting put back into human mode. They had a Jack in the Box on the base...so good
@@helmedon There was a Burger King just a couple of blocks from 2nd Bn on Parris Island. It had a little gift shop in there too. I still have a set of sweats that I bought there. You mentioned the Rose Bowl. Every year the Marine Bandsmen in that area put together the USMC West Coast Composite Band, and march in the Parade.
Anyone else at MCRD San Diego in April of 05 when they caught the mess on fire? Best chow I'd had in 5 weeks.
I went through Marine basic training in the fall of 1975, watching these kids reaction to how rough boot camp was is hilarious.
The second gal watching would be crying like a baby in no time
No shit, brother 😂😂
I’m not from the military, but I used to work as server at the Edson Range for 6 yrs. I’ve seen A LOT. 😂 just by watching the bootcamp scene, it brings back memories.
One of the many stories I remember, there was a recruit that was in trouble, don’t exactly know what he did, but I had a front row seat serving the desserts. The senior staff sergeant told him to “Beat his face” he paused and stared at the senior sergeant and repeated the order, he yells, “ARE YOU DEAF!? Get on the ground and beat your face!”
So this recruit proceeded to wail punches on his face. 😂🤣
Senior staff sergeant screams, “NOOO!! YOU FUCKING DUMBASS! DO PUSH-UPS!” He needed someone to take over before he cracked. Lolz
@@julieornelas3787 malicious complaints
Lol
they would have to live it to believe it. when I went to fort Knox in 1989 I was humbled real quick. cattle truck pulled up we threw our bags on and strapped on the duffle packed with my clothing issue and off we wnet jogging to the billets. i remember thinking what have my 18 year old fresh out of high school ass gotten myself into!😂😂😂😂😂😂
R Lee was a real drill instructor in the Marine Corp. This is a perfect depiction of how Marine Corp drill instructors conduct business on a daily basis. We hated being there at first but we grew to respect and admire our drill instructors. Some of us actually missed bootcamp after we graduated. Many people say this is harsh treatment but this a reality Marine recruits face. I'm not knocking other branches but Marine basic training is tougher than any other bootcamp.
R. Lee Ermey said in an interview, he was actually portraying how a drill sergeant is NOT supposed to act in this movie. He said a real drill sergeant would be able to tell that Private Pyle was going insane.
He would have NEVER said, "drill sergeant". He was a US Marine drill INSTRUCTOR......."drill sergeant" is the term used in the US Army.
Semantics..but Lee did say he wasn't happy about his portrayal, but did like how it came out in the end@@quasimotto8653
@@quasimotto8653 regardless the term Ermey did say this.
My father enlisted in the marines in 76. I enlisted in 03. I can tell you that this film is fairly accurate to what I received at Paris Island.
My one dislike of the film was Sgt Hartman's reaction to Private Lawrence/Pyle in the insanity scene. Marine Drill Instructors are like psychologist - he would have tried to talk him off the ledge.
Glad to hear Ermey said the same thing. I actually met him in 2005 or 2006 but didn't think to bring it up.
It kills me how the young kids watching this saying that he's so mean. They would not make it in Basic. Too many hurt feelings 😂
This movie portrays the drill sergeant's actions as negative and he gets directly killed because of it. His "tough training" leads to a man's suicide and his own death.
They're being trained for war. What do you think that's about??? Sunshine and rainbows? Those who graduate will have a chance of survival. USMC 80-01.
@@TheMojoWorks No it didn't, it led a mentally unstable young man to crack and have a psychotic episode. This never would have happened in real life. This is screened for and one of the reasons Marine instructors are this hard on recruits. If you can't handle this kind of stress you can't handle combat in the manor of a US Marine. Ermy said he portrayed his character as an example of how not to be an instructor because real instructors would have spotted Pyle losing it very early and he likely would have been rejected within the first phase. We weren't allowed to keep our weapons like portrayed here, certainly not access to live rounds. Real boot camp they're not allowed to put hands on you like this, nor to use racial targeting. This is meant to wed out the weak and train for specific traits. There's a reason they say the few the proud.
@@helmedonwas this allowed, however, for the period it portrays? (I have no idea.)
@@TheMojoWorks so many opinions but so little knowledge 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️Glad I'm the son of an instructor or I would've been just as soft as the new age hairless iPhone midgtes
I enlisted in the Marines in 1980 and attended boot camp at Paris Island... I knew absolutely nothing about R. Lee Ermey when the movie was released and just assumed the studio hired a Marine Drill Instructor to play the part...turns out I was correct. His delivery, cadence and voice are spot on...and it is very apparent that R. Lee Ermey was an actual Drill Instructor. The day we got our Drill Instructors all hell broke loose...and for the first hour or so I kept thinking "what the hell have I done?"
My God the reaction from these Jen Z's is priceless. It's like their first introduction into reality in their life😅😅😅😅
The Z generation are a bunch of pansies
yeah that 2nd one was almost crying. so pathetic.
@@GiblixStudio That's basically her reaction to every serious movie that was made by someone who had a pair and didn't give a damn about their feelings. I'm part of Jen Z because of my age, but I don't really consider myself in the same demographic.
@GiblixStudio She's lucky enough to be Canadian and obviously a gentle, sheltered life. Good for her. (No mulitary damily mebers) I grew up in 'urban' USA and it left me with a harsh, (and cynical) btw outlook. I love this scene!!
If anyone cares, the short version of "Generation Z" is "Gen Z".
The senior drill instructor is the “nice one”
That made me laff out loud. Dude you ain't kidding.
I love how the editor at Popcorn in Bed bleeped out the word "steers." The daily farm report will never be the same.
All the civilians always miss the point where he says "You will learn by the number, *I will teach you* " This is my favorite part.
The more you hate me, the more you will learn. Is my favorite.
If you notice he lowers his voice as he says “you don’t scare me. Work on it.” Hartman actually saw potential in Joker
Yeah, they will make you do everything over and over until you get it right. It will be indelibly burned in your brain. The military has their way of doing things and they will teach you every single thing and how they want it done
Thats how it's done: by the numbers.
By the numbers is a time limit incase anyone is wondering what that means. You got a certain amount of time to complete every task. Shave, shower, shit
This is an extremely accurate depiction of a senior drill instructor's interaction with recruits.
When he said Pyle was gonna be his favorite at 2:44 😂😂😂
I'm a Marine veteran. This movie was set during the vietnam war and all the recruits would most likely be going there after boot camp and infantry training. I went through boot camp in 1981 about 10 years after the timeframe in the movie, and it was very much the same. There was a major reduction in physical violence against the recruits, but not all of it was eliminated. The yelling and the name callng and cussing was the same, spot on. Hated it at the time but it worked. We all came out 3 months later in peak physycal shape and mentally prepared for anything. Would definately do it again.
3rd bn I co plt 3011
1985
This movie reminded me of my drill instructors. I had 2 stress monsters, one top hat, and of course, my senior drill instructor.
I got slapped while I was on the yellow footprints.
2d Bn/G Co/ Plt 2068 June - Sept '89. I had the great fortune of sharing the same last name as my SDI. We were not related. 😂
@@richardjahn7951Happy Veterans Day 🇺🇸
@@jameswells554Happy Veterans Day 🇺🇸
Happy Veterans Day 🇺🇸
I like watching you younger generation watching this and being in a state of shock, it just goes to show the difference in people several generations later. The first time we watched this movie we were all dying laughing, the lines were comedy gold, we still use them today on the job while working.
"I wonder how much of this is real?"
Me remembering running a 1/2 mile. Over and over and over again to collect rocks for my DIs rock collection and building him a throne made from MRE boxes. Then spending an afternoon next to the road saluting birds, cars, and trees.
Also me " Pretty damn close."
I used to watch this on VHS when I was a kid (54 now).
The one thing I noticed, all the people reacting to this were 20s-mid 30s and they seemed to have never heard a human being talk like that.
I grew up in the 70s and 80s , insults like that were common for fun or fighting.
This movie portrayed young men in their teens going off to fight a war where the enemy and your allies didn't care about your feelings.
It's still an all time classic movie top 5
Yeah, woke culture has eliminated shaming which was a big societal tool for keeping people from slipping into pathetic states. It motivated people to do better. Too bad liberals are dragging down our people.
all nancys now
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4 year Army Vet here.. Im not a Marine but my Drill Seargent was just as rough as this guy, except he was African American, lol.. We called him "DS Damn" because he would say something crazy to you and say Damn 3 times in one sentence.. lol.. awesome compilation!
19K, drill sergeant was an airborne ranger tanker, i sh!t you not. SFC Locklear
I’m an Alumni of Parris Island 3rd Battalion India Co. THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS!!! You can make a 1 hour movie on Boot Camp by itself. More material than you could ever imagine. Funny, thrilling, horror, intense, sad, hilarious, etc….
For those wondering, yes, Marine Corps boot camp was this intense. MC boot camp is still the longest and most difficult of all the branches. In recent years they have made some changes since obviously they cant do or say stuff like this anymore. However, the intensity by drill instructors is still insane like this. I was punched in the throat by my DI simply for making eye contact with him as he walked by. He then flipped over my footlocker and dumped the contents out and told me i had ten seconds to get everything cleaned up as he stood over me ready to throw another one. People need to understand that Marines are the only branch of the U.S. military that is made solely for combat. Every Marine is a rifleman first and foremost. By the time you leave boot camp you are a killer or they wash you out
The protected will never know what it takes.
Thank You. Jesus what did they think the military was? A Club?
💯
As someone who went through, anyone can follow basic orders.
"Hi, thank you for your service." "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
A humanitarian is always a hypocrite, was observed by Kipling and his later commentary developed into : People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - used by Churchil
When I was in Navy bootcamp at Great Lakes in 88, my company commander was a 6 foot 5 raging asshole. But his co-commander was even scarier than the guy in Full Metal Jacket. He was a short Filipino dude who could make you pee in your pants with a look. He rarely yelled, but when he did you know hell was coming to all of us.
You were there a year after me, Company 100. Sr. Chief Stitly and MM1 Miller.
Ermey was originally hired as a technical advisor for the movie, but his intensity was so great they gave him the role. i wonder if anyone recognizes private pile, he was the bug in men in black
And he was in Law and Order: SVU and Daredevil
In the exact same year , he also played the garage repairman in Adventures in Babysitting. The physique difference is amazing.
Also started in Law and Order spinoff Criminal Intent where he played a whip smart detective with a lot of personal baggage. Tremendously nuanced performances.
@@Biohybr1dLaw and Order Criminal Intent, not in SVU.
Civilians don't understand how vital this kind of training is. The whole point is to keep recruits under constant and increasing physical and psychological pressure throughout training until they adapt and can carry out their tasks stressed exhausted and barely coherent. This prepares them to survive in combat when stress will be much higher and sleep will become a distant memory. Unfortunately civilians keep interfering in a process they don't understand and see as cruel constant trying to restrict the armies ability to prepare soldiers for war. For example Pvt. Joker talked back undermining the instructors authority allowing the instructor to strike him something no longer allowed but Pvt. Pile hadn't done anything to justify physical punishment which is why the instructor ordered him to choke himself using the instructor's hand therfore obaying the letter of the regulation but still making his point. Instructor's constantly have to find creative ways to maximise the training while avoiding breaking stupid rules made by politicians who don't understand the reason for the training. If you're not stressed and exhausted and in constant fear/hatred of your instructor the training has no value and will not prepare you for combat. While some drill instructor's are malicious psychopath's who enjoy bullying recruit's for fun they are a tiny minority and usually despised by the others. Being selected as a DI for training new recruits is a sign your commander's see real leadership potential in a soldier because they are literally being trusted with the future of the army. So almost all are smart dedicated and utterly professional knowing their performance as an instructor will define their future career.
drill instructors, outside of drill, are some of the sweetest teddy bears i've ever met, and i've met multiple.
This movie portrays this character's actions as negative though. In this movie, he pretty much bullies a man until he breaks, kills himself, and this drill sergeant. This movie disagrees with you.
The soldiers that don't die in combat are taught how to kill themselves emotionally, kill others physically, and in alot of cases, eventually kill themselves physically after they get home from the war. Did the training make them better soldiers? Probably. But it often irreversibly damages their minds, and ever since WWII, America hasn't been in a war that makes the dehumanizing of thousands of young boys a necessary sacrifice for the sake of humanity. It just isn't worth it.
I once heard a Navy officer say something that an Air Force sergeant later corroborated. The most important thing to learn in training, and if you learn nothing else, is to make good decisions in highly stressful environments.
@@TheMojoWorks Which shows you've entirely missed the point of that characters story. During the Vietnam war the government lowered recruiting standards. His character was clearly mentally impaired and should never have been allowed to join. Usually a recruitment officer would have identified that and rejected his enlistment or the instructor would have marked him as a failure and given him an administrative discharge. Unfortunately during war time with the minimum standards lowered they didn't have that option. PTSD isn't caused by military service or training. It tends to be caused when the training fails to prepare the soldiers for the experiences they suffer in combat and a lack of adequate support afterwards. While no training can ever hope to prepare men to deal with everything they might face tougher training weeds out those who are not mentally strong enough to cope and strengthens those with the capacity to handle the pressure. And if given proper treatment recover. But by far one of he biggest causes of mental illness in veterans is loss of belief that their sacrifices were justified. When snotty little liberal arts students and hand wringing politicians betray them for power and virtue signaling abandoning the mission before it's complete it makes all their suffering and the loss of their friends worthless.
Absolute wives' tale horseshit, entirely ahistorical, and the type of speculative uninformed bullshit that buck privates and other junior enlisted personnel tell each other to appear knowledgeable and wise to their buddies. All of those decisions are made within the chain of command. The only input that any civilians have comes in the form of general orders issued by the president, who is the only civilian empowered to issue any orders whatsoever, when so directed though laws enacted by the Congress. Members of Congress do not have enough floor time in each legislative session to micromanage such granular concerns by legislative fiat. If they pass a law that says, in essence, "don't be so mean to the recruits because it gives us a big ol' wet boo-hoo," its specific implementation is left entirely up to the officers and enlisted ranks responsible for the areas affected by it as part of their regular duties. If you want to wax melancholic about how all the pussies among the general public are preventing you from hanging a pair of truck nuts on your chevrons, there is nothing stopping you from knowing what the fuck you're talking about first.
Today’s people don’t understand what discipline really is.
This movie doesn’t deserve to get cancelled
It never has. So no worries snowflake
I graduated boot camp at Parris Island in June 1985. With a few exceptions, this is spot on. The biggest difference is that there would have been at least 2-3 other drill instructors screaming at everyone.
Right. One senior drill instructor and usually 2 or 3 juniors.
The other oddity in this movie is that I have NEVER seen a drill instructor that held the rank of Gunnery Sergeant. There were a very few Corporals and a few Staff Sergeants (always a Senior DI from my experience). The vast majority of DIs were Sergeants.
While I went through Boot Camp (SD), my Senior was promoted to Staff and another (that we all looked at as the least intimidating and least experienced) was promoted from Cpl to Sgt.
I had a weird company where after the first couple of weeks we were down to only one drill sergeant (Army, not USMC). Thankfully he was as tough as a plank of teak and could teach archery to a rock, but in hindsight I realize that was way too much for one guy to have to shoulder week after week. We probably had a more relaxed final phase in some ways because he simply couldn’t be everywhere to torment us with grenade simulators, but he put in crazy hours to keep my band of miscreants evolving out of our primordial scum (his words, minus some Anglo-Saxon). You really need a pair, bare minimum, three is better.
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True. Our senior was a staff sergeant, then there was 2 sergeants and 1 corporal.
@@kingleech16 Wow! Training/Controlling a platoon of recruits is WAY too much work for a single DI/DS!
It would be interesting to know the story behind why his Command would allow that to happen.
@@treese4952 And I would bet that the DI that was a Cpl probably was within a year of promo.
I got to meet R Lee Ermey over 30 years ago in SoCal..Though he was a real Gunny in the Corps he’s nothing like this in real life..Lol
Totally laid back guy-spoken and direct but you can see it in his eyes..He’s for real
Gone too soon.. RIP
Civilian: "Oh my GAWD!!"
Hahahaha!
While the DIs weren't allowed to go hands on, when I went through Basic Training, the verbal insults and yelling was spot on.
Doesnt it make it more enjoyable to see the younger people react? I laugh because this verbal stuff is so true LOL. Its been said and then some. I miss some of the yelling I was subjected to now that I look back haha.
They did in 1965.
@@StonedVet81 Yeah, strange to see. The women laugh because it's so unreal and completely foreign to them. The men laugh because, well, that's life
Hilarious watching the youngsters react to this language. I grew up around truckers, loggers and military so I heard all of this and worse lol. Ironically none of it stuck with me thanks be to the Lord. 😂
I’m a little surprised at some of the naive reactions. In boot camp, they train people to go to war. They psychologically break people down and rebuild them for war, it’s no joke. Solders have been subjected to this sort of training since the ancient Greeks and Spartans, if not longer.
It’s an anti-war film; their reactions are exactly what Kubrick wanted. No part of this movie is romanticized for the sake of visuals, the horrors are laid plain and the casualness at which it was committed is kept. The average person is supposed to be disgusted because war is disgusting.
Whatever reasons you can come up with to justify the horror and cruelty are just that: justifications that the film does not agree with.
Yep, but he's right about the naive part... they just don’t have a clue.
I'm 55, and i've watched this movie in theatre when it came out. I was 18 and i thought "The drill instructor is too much over the top, he's a unbelievable character".
Later i went into the army, there was the civil war in the balcans and my company was among the ones included in the nato expeditionary force in a war zone
At that point, i learned the hard way that the movie was spot on about drill instructors.
@@Yodoggy9 Ok, I don’t see that anything you’re saying conflicts with what I said. Yes, it is an antiwar film, and war is horrible and disgusting.
To characterize it as only an "anti-war" film I think does it injustice. It's more complicated than that. Yes war is cruel and horrible and should be avoided whenever possible. But the film captures a duality that exists in mankind regarding war and destruction. Joker symbolizes this with the peace sign on his helmet while having Born To Kill written on it as well. Joker realizes he is against the war but may well have to kill in order to get back home alive. Same thing with Animal Mother and Joker. Animal Mother is the version of what Joker would have become had he not snapped in boot camp. I think the film tells us not to glorify war as it is a terrible thing. Humans however have gone to war throughout our history and will continue to do so. To say war is not a part of the human condition is to shy away from a fundamental truth about ourselves.
Perhaps I should clarify my original post. I was referring to some very specific reactions. I am not trying to be critical of the individual reactors either. They just struck me as very naive (innocent, unaware) of what goes on in boot camps and why. As if, perhaps, they never even thought about or considered boot camps, military training, and war in their lives.
3:00 “Why is he saying that?”; 3:48 “Why do they have to yell at them like that?”; 8:50 “He’s so mean”; 9:40 Look at his face, he’s going to laugh…that would be me…”; 15:41 He shouldn’t curse like this in the military…It’s tough but, I think we should have manners”.
My Pops was a Drill Sergeant during WWII and Korean War It’s like old home week , Pops was tough but fair hard but very loving he passed at the age of 95 last year and I miss him so much .
What also must be realized is that many of us have some sort of PTSD that we cannot describe or escape. Some handle it better than others but emotions on the battlefield will get you and your buddy killed.
I'm a British Veteran, and our Basic Training D.I.s in 1984/85 , verbaly were exactly like this
That's funny about all the British vets I've seen on these videos will say the opposite which I found odd
@TheBlackTrapper depends on when they served .... what British D.I's were allowed to do and say changed in the mid 90's .
Any British Veteran before that will remember the verbal abuse, and having their beds, bed packs and kit tossed down the room or thrown out of the window on kit inspection
That is a classic. Everybody in it was perfect. All drill sergeants, afterwards in real life, that drilled after the movie came out, had a whole new level in excellence in "burns and bars" to achieve to.
My dad was a Marine forward observer in Korea. He passed on in 94 but he was able to see this movie and assured me that the drills in his day were even much worse. That is what made America great. I enlisted in the Army and went in in 95. I can assure you that today’s military does not hold a candle to yesterdays. Semper Fi.
Any reactors to this scene fall into one of two categories with occasional overlap:
-OMG, he's so mean! I'm uncomfortable.
-OMG, he's hilarious!
When I watched Full Metal Jacket, the hair on the back of my neck stood up, when I heard the Gunny. I immediately knew he had been a real drill instructor in the USMC. The boot camp part was pretty spot on. Everyone got nicknames. We had a skinny kid who fell, when we were doing the sea bag drag. The sea bag weighed more than he did. Our Senior DI grabbed him by the neck, and was slapping the 💩 out of him, and there was a full bird Colonel standing there. He immediately did an about face. He didn’t see a thing. I still crack up when I think about some of the things I saw. It was a good experience.
Hahahaha! I love these scenes! And yes, it was just like that when I went through basic! Some guys break down and cry some guys like me just start laughing! I can’t even count the number of pushups I did! They were tough but we were machines at the end and I still have a soft spot in my heart for Drill sergeant Lopez!
My father told me a story about his drill Sargent when he joined the Army prior to Vietnam. When we were watching this together he said the drill Sargent said the same "Only steers and queers come from Texas! And I don't see any horns!", to him(We're from Texas). According to Dad, he somehow indicated is groin and said something like, "My horn is down there." Don't know if it's true, but I guarantee Dad didn't give a F. So I believe him.🤣
I went through basic training in 1983 and I would say it was about 25% less abusive than this, but no more than that. From the drill sergeant giving 'remedial training' behind the barracks, to telling us how to deal with troops among us who failed to shower frequently enough.... which involved Comet cleaner and toilet brushes.
What a great movie.
I would say the same , Parris Island '92.
Lee said he went way over the top on purpose, after he saw the movie for the first time, he felt crappy about it, but glad the people like his character.
I had the same problem with people washing at Ft. Sam Houston TX. This paticular zero was so bad that people running behind him in formation would get nauseous and fall out!
I had two retread Air Policemen in my platoon, I took his uniforms to the laundry and these two scrubbed him down with floor brushes and soap while he bitched and cried like we were breaking his heart. 🙄🤢
@@johncox6321 We went to the drill to complain about it. He told us he 'wasn't going to be there everytime a smelly trainee got toilet brushed with Comet in the shower after us drills are gone for the night'.... with a shit eating grin that told us everything we needed to know.
I later became a US Weapons instructor, and it constantly made me ask myself 'was I this damn stupid when I came through here?' Yeah, I was.
Yeah that guy was the real thing 100%
In an interview, R. Lee Ermey said that he considered Vincent D'Onofrio to be the best part of the film, easily.
He also said in other interviews that as hard and abusive as DIs could be, they'd also be in the mess hall every day, reading the names of soldiers who'd died in Vietnam. They took the losses very personally.
My Grandpa was a Gunnery Sgt. in the Marines Corp also served 2 tours in Korea 3 Purple Hearts Bronze metal . And these scenes is the old Corp. and brought a smile to my grandpa when he 1st saw this movie . Because this was him and reminded him of the Marines that he knew 👍🏼
He wasn't part of the old corps. Neither were WWII vets unless they'd been in since WWI like Chesty Puller. He caught the tail end of the "old corps".
There were no line scripted for this part. He was a real drill before he became an actor. Fyi
I grew up in the ‘70’s & ‘80’s and a close family friend that joined the marines and went to boot camp in 1970 told me this movie gave him goosebumps: he said this was exactly what his experience was and that R Lee was EXACTLY like his drill instructor. Great movie!
This is back when men were real men my Father was in Vietnam he did two tour's, He's my hero and this was his life....
So, you’re not a man?😂
Saw this in theaters with a bunch of other troops, all branches, in the local college town. We were hooting, hollering, cheering, and laughing our asses off. The civilians looked like they'd been shot. "It's not really like that is it?"
"Apart from the punching it's exactly like that."
I was in Marine boot camp in '66, and there was lots of punching kicking and choking. You must have been in the Chair Force.
My father went to Army boot camp in 1970. He said his drill instructor said some things that were so funny, he wouldn't punish recruits if they snickered.
I was Army. All of our drills were Nam vets. Tough as nails. This was pretty much my basic training. I was one of only two troops in my platoon who were regular army, all the rest were national guard or reserve. To say that one other guy and me were singled out time and time again is an understatement. Made me grow up fast and I am a better man because of it!
My father was a Marine Corp DI. This movie came out after I had grown. When I saw it, I thought he was trying to do an imitation of my father.
This takes me back to the Army, Ft. Jackson, SC Basic Training 1984. It was exactly like this. I even got a "shower conference" punch to set me straight. It wasn't until afterwards that I realized nothing was personal, the drills had a job to do, a difficult one but a necessity. Spent 9 yrs in until injured. R. Lee Ermey, RIP...a legend.
Tank hill 1982
OMFG! B-11-4, Ft. Jackson, SC. 9/09/1976... I have some bitter memories about the Tank Hill, did you get to run up the awesome trio? (Mt. Misery, Mt. Agony and Mt. Mother F****r? The three infamous sand hills on base?) I had to while on buivoac... 🥵🤬
They got us off the cattle car when we got to the company area and had us dump our personal items and issue to confiscate any "contraband items." Then we had to pack back up and run up to and around Tank Hill and back with everything on our backs and arms... my recruiter was my Uncle by marriage, and my Father was a three war combat veteran, they both told me to carry only what I had on my back... some of the others actually brought two or more suitcases full of stuff and had to run with all that stuff AND their issue... thanks Uncle Vic, thanks Dad!,😂
To the youngsters who are in the video watching this and to some of you out there. I was in Marine Boot Camp on Parris Island in early 1976. When I saw this in the theater when it came out with my wife beside me I literally started breaking out in a sweat. This was a spot on portrayal of my time at PI. Language, physical abuse and all. R. Lee Ermy really didn't have to act. He was just re-living his life as a D.I.
My senior instructor was going through a divorce and his wife was taking him to the cleaners. He went beyond insane on us and did a lot of things that finally got him kicked out and barely escaped a courts martial. We were too scared to say anything but luckily several other instructors figured it out and got the first shirt involved.
Honestly, I gotta feel for him. Even though he was going through a personal hell, I hope he found help.
I was in boot camp from 58 to 62 and I’m telling you this is very real!!! These drill instructors job was to go into brain as hard as they could, b/c if you couldn’t take boot camp you will not make it in combat!! This is the very heart of becoming a MARINE!! SEMPER FI
I went through Parris Island boot camp in 1981, 3rd Bn, I Co. And this clip is a fairly accurate description of of how Drill Instructors interact with recruits, but imagine 3 of them hounding your ass 24/7. 😂
I love to watch how the reactors stop laughing when Hartman torments Private Pyle. And as Spanish I say it, you must try to watch this movie in the dub from Spain, because the strong language in the scenes of Sergeant Hartman hear in Spanish language is terrific in the best way. And R. Lee Ermey was a true gem who after Full Metal Jacket did a great carrier with titles as David Fincher's Seven or spoofing himself in Peter Jackson's The Frighteners. Such a talented actor. RIP.
I have my own personal basic training story I would like to share with everyone. On my first day, one of my drill sergeants told me to take something and put it in a pile of Contraband items, which I did while screaming a hearty, yes, drill sergeant. I was not looking where I was going and ran headfirst into another drill sergeant whom I bowled over completely. I stood there paralyzed then suddenly every drill sergeant in the room focused in on me, screaming at the top of their lungs I was going to be going to prison for assault and battery on a non-commissioned officer. I was only 18, so I really didn't know what to say, I ended up doing go back front and more push-ups, and you'll ever know. I think my hand prints are permanently imprinted in the concrete, but I made it. Believe it or not, I was having trouble with BRM, which is basic rifle marksmanship because I was not wearing my glasses. The drill sergeant from my first day was the one who encouraged me and helped me to qualify as a marksman. It was my first accomplishment in the army but not the last.