I find it astounding that the over 80 year-old DC-3 design, improved of course but not radically, has good short and rough field performance with only split flaps. This version can carry a load almost equal to its weight, fly at a respectable speed and has essentially infinite fatigue life. Basler have done something wonderful. I hope there's enough DC-3 airframes left to be converted.
Surprisingly these old DC 3 "Gooney Birds" are still around. Check out this D Day Bird and the Basler Air connection to her re birth: th-cam.com/video/FIugl2xueik/w-d-xo.html
Basler didn't come up with this combination, most of it had been done prior by others, but Basler has been the most successful at marketing. There is still lots to be gained by completely redesigning the wing using modern design methods to maximize performance, but so far no one has gone to those extents yet. There were 400 airframes suitable for conversion in 2000, but have not seen more up to date numbers. Another company called Preferred Turbine 3 offers a similar modification.
@John Texas You sound like your between 9 and 14 years old. There is noting that I said that takes away from what Baser has accomplished with its DC-3 / BT-67 modifications program. Whatever you think I said that diminishes that is all in your head.
I like to think of the BT-67like a perfectly executed restomod. The look and character of a classic, the performance and reliability of a modern vehicle.
Great video! I only got a few hours in the DC-3 and the cockpit and airplane weren't nearly as slick as this one. I was as young as the copilot though. Happy landings guys.
Is it possible for Basler to buy the type certificate from the original company or maybe to join forces with Boeing to keep producing the turbine DC-3s, just like the DHC-515 (originally CL-145)?
how those engines resonate through that airframe makes it sound almost like an IC engine great just like it should be glade these old girls have a new lease of life thanks to the likes of BASLER
Can someone speculate what the vibration / grinding is when the left turbine spools up, and the entire time it is running? It sounds like the engine is not mounted properly to the airframe, or maybe the camera was touching the fuselage?
The grinding that you hear, isn't grinding. The GoPro was mounted to a bulkhead that houses the hydraulic accumulator. The noise is the engine driven hydraulic pump as pressure builds in the accumulator.
+Lawrence Musci Good eyes. We do survey work and the equipment is sensitive to prop RPM's. So they need to be consistent every flight. It's an optical digital tachometer.
cgcgundersen If the engine wasn't properly mounted to the plane, how would they takeoff? The engines would just fall off. Ever seen American Flight 191? Engines weren't properly attached during maintenance and the #1 engine blew off during rotation. The people at Basler know what they're doing. Not one of these has crashed. (At least to my knowledge) I'd like to see your proof that the engines weren't properly attached.
cgcgundersen Oh. You have to be careful when you type stuff like that, when you see text on a screen, you cant tell if it was meant to be said in a sarcastic tone or not.
Hi, nice video although it could be shorter. I wonder if somebody could explain the role of the red and white levers at the center. It is clear that the black levers at the left are accelerator, the red should control the fuel or the mixture of fuel or something like that. What are the whites one?.
Hi Juan, the red levers are known as condition levers and they do control fuel. However, they are unlike piston engines where you’re able to control mixture. In the case of the Basler the condition lever has two positions, run and off. The white levers are the propeller controls. And as you mentioned the black are the power levers. Hope that helps.
That’s a good question. For a normal checklist we would have lots of leniency to run it from memory and back it with the checklist. An imperfect solution that could only be mitigated through an electronic checklist. Most operators would be comfortable doing what we did here.
I notice it doesn't have the BASLER logo on the yokes like N131PR does ....... I was lucky enough to have N131PR land and come to the tarmac to meet me ( I was taking photos of it ) the BASLER TURBO CONVERSION LLC Chief pilot Andy Ferguson and AIRTEC's pilot Garibaldi Pabon showed me the plane . answered a few questions and Andy took my pic in the Left Seat ;) ;) on June 20, 2020 at the Easton Airport, Easton, Md ...... They are flying out of St. Mary's ........... 131 and 141 have both been sold as of 8/15/2020. N161PR continues to go out on missions all across the country and N115U which isn't AIRTEC but is also at St. Mary's Airport in Hollywood or Lexington Park, Md reverts back to the owner the end of Sept. when lease runs out. Are you still flying them Richard Ross ?
Curtis Brandt I’m not sure if Rick is still flying or not. As for the Basler logo that could be something they’ve been doing with the newer conversions. If I remember correctly at one point TGI and TGX had Pratt and Whitney logos on the yoke. Been awhile since I’ve flown them, so not certain on that.
I'm just wondering why the Captain is running the checklist? Isn't that the job of the person in the right seat, at least on the ground. Then the pilot monitoring does it in the air.
Gerald Penn Hi Gerald, that's a good point. In most company SOP, that's the case. However, we did it differently on the DC3 as both Captain and FO are able to taxi the aircraft.
QUEM NÃO TEVE A CHANCE DE VOAR NUM C47 (DC3) NÃO PODE AVALIAR QUÃO GOSTOSO É VOAR NELE!! O RONCO DOS MOTORES ORIGINAIS FAZ ARREPIAR. ATÉ O SACO NA DECOLAGEM!!!!
En su mayoria todos los aviones equipados con turbomotores a combustible JP son para aviones de cabina presurizada y altura d vuelo 20000 pies , con otra concepcion estructural
I find it astounding that the over 80 year-old DC-3 design, improved of course but not radically, has good short and rough field performance with only split flaps. This version can carry a load almost equal to its weight, fly at a respectable speed and has essentially infinite fatigue life. Basler have done something wonderful. I hope there's enough DC-3 airframes left to be converted.
Surprisingly these old DC 3 "Gooney Birds" are still around. Check out this D Day Bird and the Basler Air connection to her re birth:
th-cam.com/video/FIugl2xueik/w-d-xo.html
Basler didn't come up with this combination, most of it had been done prior by others, but Basler has been the most successful at marketing. There is still lots to be gained by completely redesigning the wing using modern design methods to maximize performance, but so far no one has gone to those extents yet. There were 400 airframes suitable for conversion in 2000, but have not seen more up to date numbers. Another company called Preferred Turbine 3 offers a similar modification.
@John Texas Sorry, what's your beef?
@John Texas You sound like your between 9 and 14 years old. There is noting that I said that takes away from what Baser has accomplished with its DC-3 / BT-67 modifications program. Whatever you think I said that diminishes that is all in your head.
@John Texas Sorry, I meant to say your 7 years old. Whatever your issue is, its all in your head obviously. Have a nice day.
I like to think of the BT-67like a perfectly executed restomod. The look and character of a classic, the performance and reliability of a modern vehicle.
Great piece of film, thank you for sharing. I love the DC-3 in all its forms, continuing on for ever ✈❤❤❤
Nice video, thanks for sharing
Excellent video. Thank you.
I was the Captain, I am taking the prop RPM as it needs to be at 1650 for what we were doing.
Nice cockpit instrumentation LCD with Analog should be a must on any aircraft.
Great video! I only got a few hours in the DC-3 and the cockpit and airplane weren't nearly as slick as this one. I was as young as the copilot though. Happy landings guys.
Love your video I have flew a lot of miles on DC 3's and I would love to see one of these BT 67 birds up close.
Very nice to see that Basler also upgrades the controls/yokes and levers.
Quite a bit larger than the original control yoke. I can't remember which aircraft they're from.
Is it possible for Basler to buy the type certificate from the original company or maybe to join forces with Boeing to keep producing the turbine DC-3s, just like the DHC-515 (originally CL-145)?
how those engines resonate through that airframe makes it sound almost like an IC engine great just like it should be glade these old girls have a new lease of life thanks to the likes of BASLER
A troca do propulsor original por uma turbina, tira a originalidade do lendário DC-3, mas o cockpit ficou lindo. Deu um ar de modernidade. Eu gostei.
Why do I watch this video over and over, I wonder.... Just wish an approach / landing was in there too.
I wonder if this young co-pilot is still flying the Basler 8 1/2 years on.
Hi Robert, I left the DC3 job back in 2015. I’m at Air Canada now flying the A220.
That’s very good to hear. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
Can someone speculate what the vibration / grinding is when the left turbine spools up, and the entire time it is running? It sounds like the engine is not mounted properly to the airframe, or maybe the camera was touching the fuselage?
The grinding that you hear, isn't grinding. The GoPro was mounted to a bulkhead that houses the hydraulic accumulator. The noise is the engine driven hydraulic pump as pressure builds in the accumulator.
It sounds like a V8 generator.
Engine Sound: Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6
Can anyone tell me what the Captain is putting up against the side window at the 14:50 mark?
+Lawrence Musci Good eyes. We do survey work and the equipment is sensitive to prop RPM's. So they need to be consistent every flight. It's an optical digital tachometer.
Yup you're right the engine isn't properly attached to the plane, but they said screw it let's take off anyway.
cgcgundersen If the engine wasn't properly mounted to the plane, how would they takeoff? The engines would just fall off. Ever seen American Flight 191? Engines weren't properly attached during maintenance and the #1 engine blew off during rotation. The people at Basler know what they're doing. Not one of these has crashed. (At least to my knowledge) I'd like to see your proof that the engines weren't properly attached.
David Roscilo Oh David. Is sarcasm new to you?
cgcgundersen Oh. You have to be careful when you type stuff like that, when you see text on a screen, you cant tell if it was meant to be said in a sarcastic tone or not.
David Roscilo Fair enough. I do think someone needs to invent a "Sarcastic" font. No hard feelings?
No hard feelings. But, that would be pretty cool. Trying to make a font that everyone will use would be hard though.
Hi, nice video although it could be shorter. I wonder if somebody could explain the role of the red and white levers at the center. It is clear that the black levers at the left are accelerator, the red should control the fuel or the mixture of fuel or something like that. What are the whites one?.
Hi Juan, the red levers are known as condition levers and they do control fuel. However, they are unlike piston engines where you’re able to control mixture. In the case of the Basler the condition lever has two positions, run and off. The white levers are the propeller controls. And as you mentioned the black are the power levers. Hope that helps.
@@RangerRaider thank you very much for your explanation.👍
thanks,,
Wonder for how long they keep max. power obviously 😉😉
Good God, those are some strange sounding engines. Bad bearings?
When the captain takes his eyes off the checklist...what's there to prevent him from missing a checklist item..
That’s a good question. For a normal checklist we would have lots of leniency to run it from memory and back it with the checklist. An imperfect solution that could only be mitigated through an electronic checklist. Most operators would be comfortable doing what we did here.
I notice it doesn't have the BASLER logo on the yokes like N131PR does ....... I was lucky enough to have N131PR land and come to the tarmac to meet me ( I was taking photos of it ) the BASLER TURBO CONVERSION LLC Chief pilot Andy Ferguson and AIRTEC's pilot Garibaldi Pabon showed me the plane . answered a few questions and Andy took my pic in the Left Seat ;) ;) on June 20, 2020 at the Easton Airport, Easton, Md ...... They are flying out of St. Mary's ........... 131 and 141 have both been sold as of 8/15/2020. N161PR continues to go out on missions all across the country and N115U which isn't AIRTEC but is also at St. Mary's Airport in Hollywood or Lexington Park, Md reverts back to the owner the end of Sept. when lease runs out. Are you still flying them Richard Ross ?
Curtis Brandt I’m not sure if Rick is still flying or not. As for the Basler logo that could be something they’ve been doing with the newer conversions. If I remember correctly at one point TGI and TGX had Pratt and Whitney logos on the yoke. Been awhile since I’ve flown them, so not certain on that.
I take it that this aircraft is no longer underpowered with the engine replacements?
Yeah, it was definitely not underpowered with the PT6-67R. 1281shp per engine.
How can i get a job flying this amazing aircraft?
Three companies in Canada that operate the Basler that I'm aware of. Enterprise Airlines, Kenn Borek Air and North Star Air.
I'm just wondering why the Captain is running the checklist? Isn't that the job of the person in the right seat, at least on the ground. Then the pilot monitoring does it in the air.
Gerald Penn Hi Gerald, that's a good point. In most company SOP, that's the case. However, we did it differently on the DC3 as both Captain and FO are able to taxi the aircraft.
look at the young man in the Right Seat. im betting the PIC is letting his co-pilot fly and he is assisting.
What is the registration of this basler? Is it with enterprise airlines?
I’d have to check my logbook. But either C-FTGI or C-FTGX. Yes, for Enterprise Airlines.
Ok I forgot. No nose wheel steering tiller. Thanks
QUEM NÃO TEVE A CHANCE DE VOAR NUM C47 (DC3) NÃO PODE AVALIAR QUÃO GOSTOSO É VOAR NELE!!
O RONCO DOS MOTORES ORIGINAIS FAZ ARREPIAR. ATÉ O SACO NA DECOLAGEM!!!!
Sounds like Detroit 8-v71’s starting
En su mayoria todos los aviones equipados con turbomotores a combustible JP son para aviones de cabina presurizada y altura d vuelo 20000 pies , con otra concepcion estructural
Weird Aircraft,, what type of aircrft that when parking and taxing with nose up 🤣
Taildraggers exist. They are not weird.
Man those engines are noisy. Bad bearings?
Whose BT-67 was this? The company i mean. Thanks
Victor Blanco Bell Geospace Aviation
Hard coded subtitles would have been helpful.
First Comment ;)
+mgman71 But you had nothing to say. So this isn't really a comment, is it?
+cageordie LOL
This would have been really interesting if the audio wasn't so terrible.
Was never supposed to be a high quality video. Just something shot with a GoPro to see a departure sequence.
...could've been, should've been a much better vid....