Fun fact: there was a military mission (not related to the ISS) in which they needed to send a video feed back to earth, this was back in early 2000, but because it was military it had to be super secure. They encrypted the video feed and sending+decrypting it resulted in a video feed with 0.3 FPS :)
NASA Mission Control Center is out-of-this world. I like the fact that it takes full advantage of computer technology. I am impressed. Norm, that was a job well-done.
Bill Foster was also the Flight Control Room GC for the STS-107 Columbia re-entry breakup and the controller notoriously ordered to "lock the doors" by Flight Director Leroy Cain when it was finally determined that the vehicle had in fact been destroyed during re-entry. He also manned the primary GC console for the Discovery "Return to Flight" mission in late 2005.
Exactly. At NASA, it is important that everything runs smoothly. They can't just upgrade to the latest version of Windows and then hope for the best. Same reason why businesses tend to still use Windows XP. Heck, six-ish years ago when I was still at school, we had a couple of computers that still ran Win3.11!
Awesome, very intersting interview! The ISS is such a great mini Star Trek universe. All those nations working peacefully together both up there and on the ground.
Great interview. Loved hearing about the net connection they have up there and how it works. Disappointed they're moving to a windows based ground control system tho. ;) When was this filmed? It looked like Cmdr Hadfield on one of the big screens.
In space this is amazing, here on earth its pure innovation. This material is cheap to manufacture and easy to apply. Can you imagine going to a hospital where "super bugs" can't take hold because the work spaces are habitable for them, or silverware and plates that never get "dirty".
Science leads to innovation. Something simple that is being pushed by the ISS are germ/bacteria resistant alloys. Since you have such a small area to live in you need to be very clean and surfaces that trap harmful bacteria can end up being a threat in space. At the university I attend the dean of the engineering and computer science school has patented a spray on metal that, after rigorous testing, seems to not allow bacterial growth.
It's one thing in an office where the pc gets shutdown at the end of the day. It's another when you need that pc to run continuously without rebooting or crashing for many years straight. Unix based systems will do that without any trouble if they are on good hardware.
I would guess Linux. It is completely open-source and the guys over at NASA could modify any part of it to their liking. Also they could remove any uneeded overhead software to speed up their systems, something which you definitely can't do on Windows.
There were a lot of failures before space flight advanced to the point we're at now. Sometimes the entire crew was killed. It's important to honor those that gave their lives to further science and exploration.
They only just retired the MCS Mission Control computer and its backup which was built in the 60s. This isn't 24, running an advanced organization doesn't mean always being on the cutting edge. Especially when a lot of the telemetry software you rely was written decades ago. Porting that stuff costs time and money that could be spent on actual missions.
Well if they were going to hang the plaque for Exp. #34 and Hadfield was up there then it would be roughly between Dec 2012 and March 2013. It's odd for them to move to Windows considering the station is switching to Debian 6.
Thats so awesome!! I would love to go there and explore every monitor. lol, I would be asking over and over, whats that do? whats that do? I have a lot of respect for those people making this all work and can't wait to see what they will bring in the future. Great interview and looking forward to seeing more. Also, can we get rid on money, it's slowing us down I think. ;)
There something I could utilize where I could see the constellations more closely farther out in the universe ..I can't clearly make some things out very well or I or very long I'd like to at sometime perhaps
I'm actualy surprised and worried they are using Microsoft Windows in the first place. I thought they would be using Unix for high performance systems & servers. Then a special flavour of Linux for clients. That would be my design if i was it engineer for NASA.
Long-term software compatibility and support. All software and components were once tested and certified together, and in spaceflight, it's all about never changing the running system when it performs adequately. And where else would you get an OS that's still supported after nearly twenty years (if you have the right money, of course) and can run software from forty years ago just as well as it can run most of today's? Windows XP really is quite unique in this position, maybe getting slowly replaced by Windows 7 in the future. We're just getting to an age where operating systems and computer hardware really doesn't change a lot apart from security concerns.
You'd be happier ignoring new frontiers? I'm personally happy we're all working on this because it's one of the few things that brings us together in a common goal.
Things like this aren't a question here on earth because we're not in a critical environment. If we get sick we stay away from people and get better. In the small confines of space this isn't possible. One last statistic for you is that NASA has filed more than 6300 patents, that's more inventions than I've come up with but who knows maybe I'm just not the creative type.
chris hadfield while commanding the iss rewrote the lyrics to bowies song with the help of chris hadfields son and sang it onboard the station. it's on youtube
+Martijn Coenen You'll find lots of critical applications like this still run XP, it's really stable and is defunct enough in the public realm that people aren't really looking for any more security exploits so you're relatively safe from that.
+dymproductions , if you send something like the Rover to Mars it takes 4 years to get it there, so given the time I bet the Rover is compatible with XP drivers. And while they can arguably install w7, why take the risk screwing with drivers and tech worth billions and billions of dollars. Don't change what's working for current running missions. Newer missions newer OS's.
Space. We can learn about our universe and with it we can tell if God is real, we can use it for science and more. For municipal use, you can use it for your television and phones. We can also use it if Earth is ever going to die. Now I ask you this, to go to Mars as a backup if Earth is ever destroyed, that would be pretty cool
I forgot orion first manned test is coming up that should be exciting September 14 is going to be very exciting its the ingural start of the formula E championship which Is based at my local circuit ! and this
eww the new NASA command centre that being built is going to be all windows base. IMHO that be pretty scary knowing previously how unstable windows is, and should stay using more stable OS like Linux or Unix in the command centre.
Satan wants to deceive souls to not have the true biblical HOPE of the Gospel of Jesus Christ by “looking to Mars and space” instead of God Himself. “Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” 2 Peter 3:13 “so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” Hebrews 9:28 Destruction will come, but will you be saved to enjoy the new creation for all eternity? “And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.” Revelation 21:5
Now in 2022 NASA can’t send men even beyond low earth orbit, because it hasn't developed the necessary technology yet, therefore it's impossible that 50 years ago they sent men to the moon (whih is 500 times farther).
@@donpettitwedestroyedtheapo6488 just Google SLS and you are beeing proven wrong. Nasa builds the SLS right now and already flew around the moon. Once. They have a fraction of the budget compared to the 60s so there where no moon missions since
wait wait wait.. They are going to have Windows based flight controller instead of linux? They are fucket, up there in the space station. And I hope that NASA is not building drones = /
it's my dream to work in mission control!!!
my dream as well
Follow it.
Well come my NSA office ....early joining pls
My dream no
Same
Fun fact: there was a military mission (not related to the ISS) in which they needed to send a video feed back to earth, this was back in early 2000, but because it was military it had to be super secure. They encrypted the video feed and sending+decrypting it resulted in a video feed with 0.3 FPS :)
NASA Mission Control Center is out-of-this world. I like the fact that it takes full advantage of computer technology. I am impressed. Norm, that was a job well-done.
Absolutely crazy that this was 10 years ago. Now we are launching Dragon and Orion
Bill Foster was also the Flight Control Room GC for the STS-107 Columbia re-entry breakup and the controller notoriously ordered to "lock the doors" by Flight Director Leroy Cain when it was finally determined that the vehicle had in fact been destroyed during re-entry. He also manned the primary GC console for the Discovery "Return to Flight" mission in late 2005.
Exactly.
At NASA, it is important that everything runs smoothly. They can't just upgrade to the latest version of Windows and then hope for the best.
Same reason why businesses tend to still use Windows XP.
Heck, six-ish years ago when I was still at school, we had a couple of computers that still ran Win3.11!
Big thanks for this, a lot I've wondered about. All we usually get to see is an occasional cut to a camera feed from the ceiling of mission control!
Great job Norm! I could tell you were as excited to be there as I would be. You have one the coolest jobs on the planet.
Awesome, very intersting interview!
The ISS is such a great mini Star Trek universe. All those nations working peacefully together both up there and on the ground.
This guy is really interesting and an amazing speaker.
Great interview. Loved hearing about the net connection they have up there and how it works. Disappointed they're moving to a windows based ground control system tho. ;)
When was this filmed? It looked like Cmdr Hadfield on one of the big screens.
In space this is amazing, here on earth its pure innovation. This material is cheap to manufacture and easy to apply. Can you imagine going to a hospital where "super bugs" can't take hold because the work spaces are habitable for them, or silverware and plates that never get "dirty".
Good job Norm! You are doing much better interviews now.
Science leads to innovation. Something simple that is being pushed by the ISS are germ/bacteria resistant alloys. Since you have such a small area to live in you need to be very clean and surfaces that trap harmful bacteria can end up being a threat in space. At the university I attend the dean of the engineering and computer science school has patented a spray on metal that, after rigorous testing, seems to not allow bacterial growth.
As an African and I am amazed by all the computers required in the globe.
Great job Norm! Interesting questions, well done
It's one thing in an office where the pc gets shutdown at the end of the day. It's another when you need that pc to run continuously without rebooting or crashing for many years straight. Unix based systems will do that without any trouble if they are on good hardware.
I would guess Linux. It is completely open-source and the guys over at NASA could modify any part of it to their liking. Also they could remove any uneeded overhead software to speed up their systems, something which you definitely can't do on Windows.
An interview with norm that I actually enjoyed. you are definitely getting better norm.
So glad you left star wars out of this one lol
He is getting better. Slowly working out what to do with his hands.
There were a lot of failures before space flight advanced to the point we're at now. Sometimes the entire crew was killed. It's important to honor those that gave their lives to further science and exploration.
Very great video Norm!
this was awesome
They only just retired the MCS Mission Control computer and its backup which was built in the 60s. This isn't 24, running an advanced organization doesn't mean always being on the cutting edge. Especially when a lot of the telemetry software you rely was written decades ago. Porting that stuff costs time and money that could be spent on actual missions.
Well if they were going to hang the plaque for Exp. #34 and Hadfield was up there then it would be roughly between Dec 2012 and March 2013. It's odd for them to move to Windows considering the station is switching to Debian 6.
Тhis channel is getting big . . . . big like Hyneman. . .
Thats so awesome!! I would love to go there and explore every monitor. lol, I would be asking over and over, whats that do? whats that do? I have a lot of respect for those people making this all work and can't wait to see what they will bring in the future. Great interview and looking forward to seeing more. Also, can we get rid on money, it's slowing us down I think. ;)
Fantastic interview. Thanks for this guys :)
great interview, norm!
How can i work here???
Plz tell me.
I'm Electronic & telecommunication student.
I love that they still use XP
There something I could utilize where I could see the constellations more closely farther out in the universe ..I can't clearly make some things out very well or I or very long I'd like to at sometime perhaps
Ground control to major Tom
Isaiah Thomas chandler XD
Haha I was looking for that comment
@7:56 thats Canada's Commander Chris Hadfield :D
I just noticed that. Wow
And what OS would you reccomend?
Trust falls: the most painful way to find out your co-workers hate you.
This is my biggest dream!!!!!
Sir i have a concept of launching object in space without fuel burning kindly contact
I can't tell if you are being ironic, or if you are genuinely insane. Well done!
I wanna be mission control, my dream job
WHERE IS CHLOE THE CORGI? This channel needs more Chloe!!
How NASA's Mission Control Supports Space Missions bit.ly/12TdRKr
I need your email
I'm actualy surprised and worried they are using Microsoft Windows in the first place. I thought they would be using Unix for high performance systems & servers. Then a special flavour of Linux for clients. That would be my design if i was it engineer for NASA.
I don't understand the benefit of using Windows over Unix. Ease of use? Probably not. I have no other ideas
Long-term software compatibility and support. All software and components were once tested and certified together, and in spaceflight, it's all about never changing the running system when it performs adequately. And where else would you get an OS that's still supported after nearly twenty years (if you have the right money, of course) and can run software from forty years ago just as well as it can run most of today's? Windows XP really is quite unique in this position, maybe getting slowly replaced by Windows 7 in the future.
We're just getting to an age where operating systems and computer hardware really doesn't change a lot apart from security concerns.
This guy talking about Orion having the first test flight in Sept of 2014. Here we are in 2022 and it still hasn't had it's first test flight.
We as people will see, perhaps you are looking for stepphen Hawkins, the world awaiting to see what he really knew about the universe
Anyone watching this in 2020 post SpaceEx dragon crew mission?
You'd be happier ignoring new frontiers? I'm personally happy we're all working on this because it's one of the few things that brings us together in a common goal.
One of some interest
I just realized you guys dont get as many views as I thought you did.
If the world did this instead of insane hateful wars,humans would already being going to the stars.
6:21 He said Unix Space Platform? Google is silent about it. Can someone point to an article about it?
He said Unix Based Platform.
It is so so so cool . 😊😀😁😃
Do you know why the internet was built?
Bobak Ferdowsi walking through the background @ 2:22 ?
Or perhaps a Linux backend and OS X for the workstations.
Awesome awesome awesome
ground control to major tom!
300MBits down? That's really quite underwhelming, but I guess they don't need a ton of bandwidth.
+QuantumBraced This video is old, they have broadband speed now.
William Foster!
My final destination
Things like this aren't a question here on earth because we're not in a critical environment. If we get sick we stay away from people and get better. In the small confines of space this isn't possible. One last statistic for you is that NASA has filed more than 6300 patents, that's more inventions than I've come up with but who knows maybe I'm just not the creative type.
Like this, so do I
I only know the ground control to major Tom joke as a David Bowie gag. Am I missing something?
chris hadfield while commanding the iss rewrote the lyrics to bowies song with the help of chris hadfields son and sang it onboard the station. it's on youtube
First comment! Love this channel and love all your guys! Adam savage is an inspiring human being.
Why OS X?
No, are you? Anyway what does age have to do with anything?
Thats a bit scary. Unlike Unix it is not capable of running for years without crashing.
6:05 We have a major project going on called Skynet :P
its because of the people that watch it and dont "like" it i bet.
There is a battle in the comments, but neither of them are smart enough to reply instead of making a whole new comment😂
What was his salary
Still on Windows XP?
+Martijn Coenen You'll find lots of critical applications like this still run XP, it's really stable and is defunct enough in the public realm that people aren't really looking for any more security exploits so you're relatively safe from that.
+Edward Stanton This video is 3 years old. Considering Microsoft don't longer support XP, Windows 7 is the obvious choice for now.
+Edward Stanton That and Linux
+dymproductions , if you send something like the Rover to Mars it takes 4 years to get it there, so given the time I bet the Rover is compatible with XP drivers. And while they can arguably install w7, why take the risk screwing with drivers and tech worth billions and billions of dollars. Don't change what's working for current running missions. Newer missions newer OS's.
It doesn't matter--whatever gets the job done reliably is fine.
Unix/Linux representing at NASA aswell, sad that some Windows-stuff is still left :-(
Hay
Nope smite it is :)
Do you even know how many invention you use everyday, because we send people to space?
Pfft, they are just switching Debian 6 on laptops of the actual ISS, now that is stable.
Imagine if NASA need to reformat their PC. It's a nightmare to do data restoration. LOL.
Space. We can learn about our universe and with it we can tell if God is real, we can use it for science and more. For municipal use, you can use it for your television and phones. We can also use it if Earth is ever going to die.
Now I ask you this, to go to Mars as a backup if Earth is ever destroyed, that would be pretty cool
2022
awsum :)
Most Stable OS for now, and plus the hardware they use is horrible, but stable, so they use this operating system.
I forgot orion first manned test is coming up that should be exciting September 14 is going to be very exciting its the ingural start of the formula E championship which Is based at my local circuit ! and this
What is responsibilities of the controller in space
Too lazy to watch the whole video
TDRS to toilets.
"Mac has no use here"
Same :O!
eww the new NASA command centre that being built is going to be all windows base.
IMHO that be pretty scary knowing previously how unstable windows is, and should stay using more stable OS like Linux or Unix in the command centre.
windows...
Flying using Windows - I wouldn't feel safe!
Ok. Don't need to swear, and when earth gets destroyed whilst we have a mars base you aren't coming
Satan wants to deceive souls to not have the true biblical HOPE of the Gospel of Jesus Christ by “looking to Mars and space” instead of God Himself.
“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:13
“so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
Hebrews 9:28
Destruction will come, but will you be saved to enjoy the new creation for all eternity?
“And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
Revelation 21:5
WINDOWS XP
FUCK YEAH !
NASA
Now in 2022 NASA can’t send men even beyond low earth orbit, because it hasn't developed the necessary technology yet, therefore it's impossible that 50 years ago they sent men to the moon (whih is 500 times farther).
They have the technology now they build the SLS.
They only didnt had the budget and Hardware available in the last 50 years
@@sH-ed5yf No they don't
@@donpettitwedestroyedtheapo6488 just Google SLS and you are beeing proven wrong.
Nasa builds the SLS right now and already flew around the moon. Once.
They have a fraction of the budget compared to the 60s so there where no moon missions since
I'm surprised that such a big enterprise like NASA has bandwidth limitations. I mean LOL.
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(center screen) windows xp? seriously?
And?
wait wait wait.. They are going to have Windows based flight controller instead of linux? They are fucket, up there in the space station. And I hope that NASA is not building drones = /
Did that fool say "it's light-years ahead of where we were"????? Light-year is a measure of distance, not time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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that guys chest hair tho
we're in 2013 and nasa is still using windows xp haha
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