Drum Teacher Analyzes/Reacts - Dave Grohl (Iso Drums) - Nirvana - In Bloom - Episode 55
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Steve's analysis, initial reactions and hot takes of the isolated drum track of Dave Grohl playing "In Bloom" by Nirvana.
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Big props to Chad Channing for coming up with these drum parts
Indeed
Exactly, few know this. I always give the props to the groove creators, over the players any day. Dave brought a different playing style and some new embellishment tho. But Chad's groove choice influenced me more than anything Dave done, which was all to common anyway for those actually viewing and supporting local band gigs at that time.
I was gonna clarify that these were written by Chad, not by Dave, you could have quoted Scentless apprentice, to me one of the best from Dave.
I'd just wrote a basically identical comment, and few seconds later I see your!
Well, there are never too much credits to Chad, so I'll not delete mine and keep it on!
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Came here to say exactly that. Great drum part and love how Dave plays it though. Think any drum part from In Utero is Nirvana's best for me though
Don’t wanna be that guy but Chad Channing came up with this drum beat. Dave Grohl has even said as much. But he’s still an amazing drummer.
I live on Bainbridge Island which is about a 35 minute ferry ride from Seattle and I'm a cashier at safeway he came through my line and I instantly knew who he was quickly told him how hes a talented drummer he smiled and said "thanks man I appreciate it"
Was about to say that
Yes, Chad Channing came up with the beat, but Dave perfected it. He made the bass drum sound like a melodic heartbeat where Chad was just single noting it throughout the song.
I don't know about an "amazing" drummer - you're being too nice about it haha.
How about analysing Dave's technique on QOTSA album "songs for the deaf" Amazing!
Came here to see if someone brought this up
That famous fill was actually taken from one of nirvanas old drummers. Dave mentions this in his hall of fame speech.
Hey man big fan here!
Had Scream play in my Oregon basement in 88...we were just floored with Dave's drumming right then and there! Moved to Seattle shortly after that and was able to catch more Dave over the years...
Lucky
“Keep practicing until it’s easy.” Good words.
Im a guitar player who also drums, but the first “rock” song I sang live was a few weeks ago, and this was the song! Love Dave!
Graduated in '96. Dave made me want to play rock drums! Shit, still does! Great video! 🤘
I remember filling in on bass for a band my first year of college and the drummer used that opening lick as he mic check. Couldn’t help myself and we ended up playing the entire opening
Ekimmu87 Moments like this are so memorable. Wonderful stuff.
“An expert composer of song parts.” Perfectly expressed, my man. That’s the MUSICIAN part of being a drummer. People focus way too much on the technique part. The true greats have both in equal measure and in huge measures. And Grohl is sure as shit great.
Also, damn. The sound. Butch Vig. Hallelujah.
Hallelujah indeed
First I just discovered this channel and now i'm down a rabbit hole of watching a bunch of your videos (thank you TH-cam algorithm).
Second I'm glad someone was able to say what I was thinking about Dave Grohl. He's able to almost have a melody with the drums and you can easily pick out where the song is based on the drums. It's a talent that not a lot drummers have.
I remember that same world premier and how it changed music for the better all these years later still my favorite band.Keep on rocking
Dale Crover is really underrated and damn so are the Melvins. A reaction to him would be great.
Yes he is
And he was also in Nirvana
Im a drummer from finland and there is this progressive rock band called kingston wall which is really underrated and not many people know of them because they came from finland and the band was born in the late 80’s. But they have an AMAZING drummer, Sami Kuoppamäki. It would bring a international view to your reactions. And if you are brave enough to react to this band and of course the drummer i would suggest a song called another piece of cake! Love ur vids
Ahhh...Yes....Nigh Goat...some of his best there
He's as heavy as Chad and hard hitting as Dave
Ah yes the 80’s drum sound. They wanted drums to sound synthetic, like a drum machine. I can’t prove this but I think Prince and Phil Collins are to blame lol
Gitfiddle 7766
Sure but they got classics under there belt it only takes time before the moths crowd into the flame
It was actually created by accident.
I love prince. And his beats. But the drums themselves do sound like crap on the records.
Daniel C I also love Prince and Genesis / Phil Collins. I was just making the point that the way those 2 artists recorded their drums changed the industry. Those albums from the 80’s sounded great. It was just different.
Jay McDanieL I believe Prince recorded an actual snare hit from an acoustic drum set. Then he reversed it and put a noise gate on it and added reverb and turned it into a sample. That’s how he got that kind of mushy synthetic snare sound you hear on Little Red Corvette for example. Phil Collins uses a noise gate, heavy compression, and reverb. Please keep in mind I am NOT a sound engineer. This is just some crazy music fan dude that’s explaining what’s he’s heard in interviews and by using my own ears. Cheers!!!
Hitchhikers guide references made me laugh, love your videos man.
Yes man Dave Grohl is one of the best man I just can’t get enough of his drumming and guitar playing awsome vid man keep up the good work
First time viewer. Nice analysis, lovin your enthusiasm 😎👍
Thank you so much for the free content. I really wish I could drop some money your way but times are pretty hard for a lot of folks right now. I can't tell you though how much I appreciate something to look at to take my mind off the "real world" right now.
I hope I can help in a little way
You need to react to his work on Songs for the Deaf. IMO that's his best drumming work he's ever done.
Dave Grohls most underrated drum performances are on Killing Jokes self titled 03 album it’s honestly where pushed him in interesting directions,
also QOTSA Songs for the Deaf too is Classic Dave Grohl
That Killing Joke album, imo, was Dave's best work. I was already a fan of theirs but that album was truly amazing! Unless I'm mistaken he produced that as well.
Don‘t forget about Them Crooked Vultures!
That’s True Them Crooked Vultures too
Honorable mention imo it’s not my absolute fav but it’s got highlights
& John Paul Jones in great form
I graduated in '92. I started playing the drums around '90-'91when grunge came around and Nirvana took over and completely changed the music scene(rescued it...lol) Dave Grohl has perfect metronome timing!!!. He taught me ALOT on timing and control. Now the foo-fighters are still putting out new incredible music!!!!. Dave is a talented well versed in all aspects of music. In my opinion one of the greatest musicians as well as his drumming!!!!.🤘🤘👍👍. Thx steve!!.love your vids👏👏.
The whole Seattle Scene changed the music scene, not Nirvana. For those living off MTV it probably seemed that way. For those going to and supporting local band gigs it was clearly not a one band effort. Not to mention Dave's drumming ability was common and average at that time, in context to the entire scene, and Dave will be the first to admit it, then, probably not now. After his first FF LP I stopped listening because he went to commercial, which was a shame...to me.
I know this is about the drumming but....kudos for his backing vocals on the chorus as well. They harmonized beautifully.
Great stuff as usual! Would love to see more isolated drum track videos! ps. Still waiting for a video on JP from Clutch!
Soon. He just released a bunch of good videos I think I can use
You should do the new Vic firth video with Danny Carey playing Pneuma!!
Great video. Excellent choice in music.
Thanks for the analysis. Always good to have something to pass the time in these quarentine days. May i suggest Matt Cameron's isolated track from Black Hole Sun next? Amazing performance and drum sound. You can find some videos of it on youtube. Cheers
Excellent idea.
Awesome video, love Grohl 😆 I’d love to see an Abbruzzese or Kinney video, excited to hear you say you’ll check out more grunge!
Of course their coming!
Junkdrummer TV awesome!! 😁
For me his greatest recording is Songs for the deaf by Qotsa
I agree 100%. That's a great album, but I feel it wouldn't be the gem that it is without those heavy, meaty beats from Grohl driving the tracks forward. Undeniably some of his best work.
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I think I saw in an interview that Butch Vig got him to use a metronome for the first time when recording the album
like your video, love Dave Grohl & Nirvana, best regards from Indonesia
What a legend
I think other fans on here may have already cleared up this point, but Chad Channing was actually the one who wrote that iconic tom fill on "In Bloom". Check out Nirvana's introduction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Because he's such a humble, cool human being, he straight up credited Chad for coming up with "cha cha du duku duku!!". I never knew that til that moment. But it doesn't change the fact that he is a master at crafting awesome drumming for songs. "In Utero" has some of the most amazing drumming I've ever come across. And Dave also influenced me to say "fuck it" and teach myself drums at 31, and join a band. I will always be grateful to him for that influence. Rock out you dirty mothers!
At 12:27
As far as I know, all the drum parts for "nevermind"
were composed (and recorded in some early demos) by Chad Channing;
Dave Grohl, on that album, just played it exactly the way were created by Chad
(I think Dave explained this in some interviews, if I remember correctly).
Not all of the songs, but many of them yes
Big props to class of 95 . I been playing the skins since I was 5 . And Dave the “Animal” Grohl. I practiced this song when it came out until I had blisters and got it.
Great video! Would absolutely love to see the new Pneuma drum cam!
The drum parts on Bleach were created by Chad Channing (nirvana)and Dale Crover of Melvins. Nirvana recorded with Butch Vig in Madison, Wisconsin early Nevermind demos in 1990 with Channing on drums. Grohl is the best drummer they ever had but he gave props to Chad Channing for creating the In Bloom hook in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction.
I'm pretty much a guitar player but in high school, me and a couple of friends went to the music class room and we decided to play this song for the hell of it. I decided to try the drums for the first time and I did better than expected and we were pretty surprised on how we sounded for a couple of 16-17 year olds.
Steve, it seems we grew up in exactly the same scene. And it was actually our drummer that introduced us to Nirvana. One week after Nevermind was released in Australia he came to my place with a copy of the album and said "You've gotta hear this new band". And just like you we were blown away. At the time we felt it was like metal and punk had a love child.
4:22 that pause was exactly on time haha
Great content! I was thinking of Dave recently because an old live Nirvana video was recently posted, pre Dave stuff... and you can hear how unlikely it would have been for Nirvana to break like they did with any other drummer. Musicality and precision and yes, balls
Have you ever heard any of their music from 88?
Lithium was one of the only songs where they DID use a click on Nevermind.
How much importance do you give to Butch Vig's work? Had the same bad played with a different producer, how good/bad would have it been?
6:38 THANK YOU, 100% agreed
I do believe the kick and snare were heavily gated and then had a sample put on them by Andy Wallace in order to make the drums sound more roomy and ambient but I could be wrong
I would love to see your reaction to Marco Minnermann. His solo in Blues Fuckers would be a good example.
It's crazy how talented Dave Ghrol truly is killer drummer damn good guitar player and a good singer hes awesome Chad Channing definitley deserves credit to
My favio drums off of them is Serve the servants always liked the groove
As much as people like to give shit to nirvana, they are and always will be my favorite band of all time. They were my jumping off point to all the other styles of rock and later metal that I love today. A lot of people like to say it’s too simple but I think that was the beauty of it and Dave on drums was just a part of it. I’m a bassist so these videos have been really cool for me to watch and see it from a different perspective since bass and drums are so intertwined. Love the channel man.
Mine too
I really like your videos!
Thank ya!
I have found that most drummers in 3 piece bands do that special kind of composition you are talking about, more often than drummers in huge bands who might just play square backbeats. I’m not saying all do but when you think of a 3 piece band, the drummer has the opportunity to put his stamp on the song without over playing because there is space to fill... generally the sound from a 3 piece can lack something. I found myself being way more involved with the writing process when playing in a 3 piece punk/pop band similar to Green Day. (Old Green Day) Great video Sir!! A lot of people can learn from this one!
They did indeed use a click track! I heard Dave talk about it in an interview. Butch tried allowing Dave to record with out a click but after multiple attempts Butch finally asked Dave to play to the click track much to Dave’s embarrassment.
I think that was only for recording 'Lithium'
Yeah that was on Lithium Butch asked him to use a click because they kept speeding up
Actually that "drum hook" was created by Chad Channing (Nirvana's previous drummer) Dave says it in the Hall of Fame Induction. Anyway, Dave make it famous. Love In Utero drums too. Cheers!
Another fine video. Not to take any credit away from Dave Grohl, but I am pretty sure that their original drummer had recorded demos for the entire album Nevermind and Dave came in and played every part almost note for note from the demos when he got hired.
Don’t play drums, been playing guitar for 24 years - great vid! I really enjoy learning more about how other parts of the band think about songs. I feel like I’ve kind of ignored a lot of the rhythmic stuff drummers have to really perfect, I think it’s a real common problem for guitarists
Sorry to crowd, you just earned my sub with the VHS part, used to do the same thing with cassettes and the radio.
The only thing you left out was the giant sizes of his bass, toms and snare. It’s also what helped give that deep, powerful, full sound. If I had the money for a new set, I’d get that exact type of set. His high Tom was like the size of a floor Tom.
Hahaha I thought the opener was the isolated drums from in bloom, I was blown away by how it didn’t sound at all like I remembered. Hahaha
Dave groove is awesome!
Well Chad channing wrote the drums for in bloom....super kind of grohl to give him credit when nirvana got inducted ...Definitely check that out
I don't know for sure but as a musician who has recorded, there was at least a guitar in Dave's headphones if not both other band members.
The toms were likely gated to limit bleed from the cymbals. You don't typically gate overheads.
I LOVE THE HITCHHIKERS GUIDE REFERENCE!
My new favorite thing to say lol “VCRUH”
Butch eventually made him use a metronome on Lithium because they kept speeding up and slowing down. Which eventually led to Endless Nameless.... and if you don't know, now ya know.
Were you at the Scream show at Littel Creek Park?
No comment about Dale Crover? Would be cool to hear Dave Grohl talk about him, I think he does somewhere on the internet 😀
Dale is amazing. I've seen them live and got to sit behind him, he tunes his drums very large. It's like cannons going off.
@@mirapilates You're talking about the Melvins, right? I like them. And they use two drummers on stage, right? Or am I thinking of another band? I just woke up...
Regarding his use of a metronome, the only track he used a metronome on was Lithium because, according to him he kept going to fast in the chorus otherwise the entire record he used no metronome.. and to be that guy again. Chad Channing wrote this drum part, Dave improved on it. ;)
Im pretty sure the drummer before Grohl wrote this part, he actually said that at their HOF induction... but with that said, Grohl is as solid as they come, and he seems like an extremely cool guy.
Chad Channing
You probably know this is Chad Channings drum part. Also butch put a metronome on dave. He hated it at first, but adjusted quickly. Good video
You should touch on Ben Gillies from silverchair. Absolute MONSTER drummer, and came out when he was 15. Inspired a ton of drummers.
The drums WERE PROCESSED a lot actually. They were definitely gated. Snare was gated to death and it was only realeased when there were fills. The snare sound was a combination of grohls second to none acuraccy hit consitency, reverb of the Room the artificial one and Andy Wallace (mix engineer) even used samples for the gunshot effect. Not as processed as 80’s but still processed quite a Lot. Hands down to grohl not using click. He had it absolutely together
Somebody said that Grohl is the perfect mix of Ringo and Bonham, and I couldn't agree more.
Dave Grohl used a click track on Nevermind...he’s mentioned it in at least one documentary that I’ve seen...
Dave Grohl IS a metronome. He don't need that shit. My favorite!
flams is Dave's sound summed up in one word
of course u can hear room reverb here because this is real live drums!
A crazy drum song is Crimewave by noise rock band Health
It was said already, but Grohl didn’t write this drum part for In Bloom
I should add that although Chad came up with that totally iconic drum lick, I completely believe that the way that Dave plays it completely transformed the song. That was def one of Dave's strengths. His power and emotion that he injects into songs with his playing. Sorry Chad. I will always love you for your awesome creativity in composing that lick, but I feel that Dave played it in a way that was tastier, in my humble opinion.
Sounds to me that he held the cymbals at the end of the take. I'm a drummer and a recording engineer, I could be wrong but that's what I heard.
Since you brought up sound garden, fun fact Chris Cornell was originally the drummer
I orchestrate that style of flams in my playing and it proves effective.👍
I disagree. The drums didn't sound dead in the 1980's. They sounded like friggin' cannons, lol! Kiss' 'I Love It Loud' comes to mind. Now don't get me wrong. I'm a huge Nirvana fan, and I absolutely love the way Butch Vig and Steve Albini captured Dave's drums on record, but I don't think the drums sounded dead in the 1980's. Thunderous to the point of being too loud, sure, but dead I would beg to differ.
Nicko Mcbrain would be a great drummer to do a video on.
You need to stick around
I believe the only song he used a metronome on was Lithium, because he kept speeding up
I think it was actually Kurt Cobain who wrote the drums on this song. I don't have the sources on hand but I remember hearing Dave Grohl (and maybe even Chad) say that Kurt Cobain already had most of the songs on Nevermind written out and dictated how he wanted the drums to sound. Kurt Cobain was a drummer before he learned any other instrument so it makes sense
The drummer for Modern Baseball is really cool. Tre Cool from Green Day made me want to play drums. I hope you react to both of them.
Charlie O'Steen I second the Tré Cool suggestion. He’s a very tight, powerful, and skilled drummer - definitely worthy of a reaction, especially to one of his isolated drum tracks!
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Dave Grohl is fucking king of groove.
Bill Ward! Black Sabbath, either war pigs or fairies wear boots live Paris 1970 would be amazing, great video as always!
Then you need you stick around
Dave Abruzzese (however you spell that) was my favorite of the big 4 grunge drummers.
And about the 80's drum sounds being over produced, listen to the full version of this song....there's a good amount of production on the final drum sounds here as well.
@Sensible Talk I found the process for some of those sounds really interesting too. Like the drums on the first Skid Row album were recorded in a huge warehouse and the room sound was used as the reverb for the drums. Similar process for Motley Crue's Dr. Feelgood album if I remember correctly.....they mic'd the loading dock and left the loading doors open. As processed as the sounds were at the time, they were some of my favorite snare sounds....big and fat!
Can you do analysis of Kyuss?
Hey just found this channel love it !!!!!!!! Never learned so much about Dave grohl.!!! I have always loved his drumming...now I know why !!! Hey why haven't you reviewed jimmy Chamberlain from the pumpkins....especially the song "set the Ray to Jerry" and from Zwan " Jesus,I Mary star of the sea" those songs are mind ending drum tracks ! Check em out !
You should stick around then.
@@JunkdrummerTV I will sir. I will indeed !
"Wack as fuuuuuck" ahaha
the water glass -- dale crover
Actually , the guitar solo for In bloom was not really following the vocal (which is indeed an exception) - it was kinda bizarre and cool.
awesome video !!!
Love Dave Grohl, but could really go for you reacting to the new drum cam video of Danny Carey playing Pnuema. High quality drum cam by Vic Firth!!!
You HAVE to do Song for the Dead - QotSA please!!!!
As a bassist I never make jokes about drummers. I mean, let's face it, bass players get joked on just as much as drummers. Rhythm deserves respect.