Great tutorial sir. In spite of your illness, you still made a tutorial for your cherished audience That’s thoughtful of you and I wish you a speedy recovery. This tutorial is insightful and surprising at the same time. There’s soo many downside to this feature of robot and am sure many users won’t find this feature useful and practical as you clearly mentioned. My best option will be to modify the wind speed at the site with the building, topographical and environmental factors and apply as wind pressure on panels but the challenge will be how to apply the pressure on a non flat roof (gable and hip) I wish to see a tutorial on claddings in RSA. I think it’s been overlooked for awhile now, however, I hope you add it to the *Current Video Ideas for the future* Thank you CEE Enjoy your day Come back as fit as a fiddle.
Thnx a lot for your comment. Indeed, it is kinda sad that such an amazing software as RSA has such a weak ASCE7 (or maybe wind load in general) modeling module. True. I do that too. I calculate the expected pressures on the surfaces and apply them on claddings. It is challenging for gables and the liking, but well, since I am interested in the powerful abilities of robot, I have to basically "push through" this annoyance. About claddings, just a small clarification question, what do you want to know about them? how they are used? or a simulation including them for example? Regards, CEE
Good afternoon, I have 30 years of experience in mechanical installation and assembly in general, the last five years I have dedicated exclusively to structural installation and during that period I have been looking for a channel that contributes to self-learning in structural design and calculation and since two weeks ago I found it in their tutorials. Thank you very much for your work and I will definitely recommend you to my contacts.
Hello CEE. I wish you good health and a speedy recovery. Get well soon. Thank you for the tutorial; it helps and it also confirms and make clear how RSAP work with wind loads in this particular module. This particular module of RSAP may not be “rock star material” but I definitely think that this module still contains more than enough useful information which a designer can make the best positive use out of. As you have also mentioned, RSAP is an amazing software and it does have other methods of modelling wind loads including the use of claddings with own calculations; and the use of RSAP wind loads simulation. The designer have options. I share the same sentiments with regards to that the width of RC beams should ideally be equal to or less than the width of the supporting RC columns. This is the kind of thinking that ensures efficiently designed structure through a holistic approach that also consider ease and practicality of the construction process during the design. You have captured this well in most of your tutorials [even in this tutorial] where you raised the importance of deciding on the types of connections (joints) and supports during modelling and modelling same accordingly. There are always good tips and things to learn from your tutorials. Keep it up.
Thanks for your comment and well-wishing. True. Wind Module is kinda underwhelming, but I had it on my ToDo list and wanted to make piece with it. Furthermore, I thought that I should infuse some of the advice in that video, something that you picked up immediately, which makes me a happier content creator. I will think about if I should model ASCE7 wind loads using claddings and manually do everything. Anyways, stay tuned CEE
Thank you for your valuable videos. I have some questions: if we define the pressure value and profile in "Wind Load Simulation" which simulate wind tunnel test, what are the benefits and inconvenience of this method. I think cases of positive and negative internal pressure is not included. my second question if I choose to model the rear-front wind on the secondary frame you draw (to connect separated structures), should I make them in a separate file and enter them manually again?
Well, the problem here is that you need to be very careful when defining your structure. Some people simply use the "beams and columns" to model in the simulation. this is dangerous because most of the wind load happens due to the walls and parapets. Now if you add those, you would need to model the exact stiffness of those, because robot does not have simple "brick walls" to model. It always models walls as "concrete walls" which are much stiffer than normal brick-walls. And this stiffness affects the analysis, so it is kind of a compromise. The more accuracy you want the deeper the rabbit hole goes. The reason why I like to use the ASCE code instead of wind-load simulations is that the ASCE is based on those simulations and they already took all those points into account. It reduces the responsibility on me and reduces also the time needed to "prove" that I took everything into consideration. It does not mean that I am "afraid" to do it, it is just that: if the structure is included in the code, then we should use the code. if the structural is not included, this would warrant the extra time and effort spent on simulating the wind impact. PS: Sorry for the late reply. I had a ton of things to finish and now I am gradually getting back
thanks CEE! i would like to know does wind load simulation module actually complies or substitute to ASCE 7-16 wind loads in general? because if my memory serves me correct ASCE 7-16 allows the use of wind tunnel simulation to define wind load for building design. sorry if i ask kind of a dumb question 😅
Hi there dear Engr. Stanley, nah there are no unwelcome questions. Let me even tell you - between us - that I am personally willing to investigate this issue in the currently running "RC building design series". I do not have the definite answer for you yet, so your question is 100% spot on. I have added this point to my "TODO" for the RC building design series. So you will get a video about that soon. Thnx for being an awesome member. Stay tuned for more content, CEE
Autodesk robot is weak in wind load. The only thing it can do is to do in 1 direction (1 plane, so x-z for example) For 3D, you need to use a wind analysis in robot.
Great tutorial sir.
In spite of your illness, you still made a tutorial for your cherished audience
That’s thoughtful of you and I wish you a speedy recovery.
This tutorial is insightful and surprising at the same time.
There’s soo many downside to this feature of robot and am sure many users won’t find this feature useful and practical as you clearly mentioned.
My best option will be to modify the wind speed at the site with the building, topographical and environmental factors and apply as wind pressure on panels but the challenge will be how to apply the pressure on a non flat roof (gable and hip)
I wish to see a tutorial on claddings in RSA. I think it’s been overlooked for awhile now, however, I hope you add it to the *Current Video Ideas for the future*
Thank you CEE
Enjoy your day
Come back as fit as a fiddle.
Thnx a lot for your comment.
Indeed, it is kinda sad that such an amazing software as RSA has such a weak ASCE7 (or maybe wind load in general) modeling module.
True. I do that too. I calculate the expected pressures on the surfaces and apply them on claddings. It is challenging for gables and the liking, but well, since I am interested in the powerful abilities of robot, I have to basically "push through" this annoyance.
About claddings, just a small clarification question,
what do you want to know about them? how they are used? or a simulation including them for example?
Regards,
CEE
Good afternoon,
I have 30 years of experience in mechanical installation and assembly in general, the last five years I have dedicated exclusively to structural installation and during that period I have been looking for a channel that contributes to self-learning in structural design and calculation and since two weeks ago I found it in their tutorials. Thank you very much for your work and I will definitely recommend you to my contacts.
I am really and truly honored by your words, Sir. I hope you stay tuned and enjoy the content that is provided here.
All the best,
CEE
Hello CEE. I wish you good health and a speedy recovery. Get well soon.
Thank you for the tutorial; it helps and it also confirms and make clear how RSAP work with wind loads in this particular module. This particular module of RSAP may not be “rock star material” but I definitely think that this module still contains more than enough useful information which a designer can make the best positive use out of.
As you have also mentioned, RSAP is an amazing software and it does have other methods of modelling wind loads including the use of claddings with own calculations; and the use of RSAP wind loads simulation. The designer have options.
I share the same sentiments with regards to that the width of RC beams should ideally be equal to or less than the width of the supporting RC columns. This is the kind of thinking that ensures efficiently designed structure through a holistic approach that also consider ease and practicality of the construction process during the design. You have captured this well in most of your tutorials [even in this tutorial] where you raised the importance of deciding on the types of connections (joints) and supports during modelling and modelling same accordingly.
There are always good tips and things to learn from your tutorials. Keep it up.
Thanks for your comment and well-wishing. True. Wind Module is kinda underwhelming, but I had it on my ToDo list and wanted to make piece with it. Furthermore, I thought that I should infuse some of the advice in that video, something that you picked up immediately, which makes me a happier content creator.
I will think about if I should model ASCE7 wind loads using claddings and manually do everything.
Anyways, stay tuned
CEE
a very good teacher
Thnx a lot, stay tuned for more videos.
Thank you for your valuable videos. I have some questions: if we define the pressure value and profile in "Wind Load Simulation" which simulate wind tunnel test, what are the benefits and inconvenience of this method. I think cases of positive and negative internal pressure is not included. my second question if I choose to model the rear-front wind on the secondary frame you draw (to connect separated structures), should I make them in a separate file and enter them manually again?
Well, the problem here is that you need to be very careful when defining your structure. Some people simply use the "beams and columns" to model in the simulation. this is dangerous because most of the wind load happens due to the walls and parapets. Now if you add those, you would need to model the exact stiffness of those, because robot does not have simple "brick walls" to model. It always models walls as "concrete walls" which are much stiffer than normal brick-walls. And this stiffness affects the analysis,
so it is kind of a compromise. The more accuracy you want the deeper the rabbit hole goes.
The reason why I like to use the ASCE code instead of wind-load simulations is that the ASCE is based on those simulations and they already took all those points into account. It reduces the responsibility on me and reduces also the time needed to "prove" that I took everything into consideration.
It does not mean that I am "afraid" to do it, it is just that: if the structure is included in the code, then we should use the code.
if the structural is not included, this would warrant the extra time and effort spent on simulating the wind impact.
PS: Sorry for the late reply. I had a ton of things to finish and now I am gradually getting back
thanks CEE! i would like to know does wind load simulation module actually complies or substitute to ASCE 7-16 wind loads in general? because if my memory serves me correct ASCE 7-16 allows the use of wind tunnel simulation to define wind load for building design. sorry if i ask kind of a dumb question 😅
Hi there dear Engr. Stanley,
nah there are no unwelcome questions. Let me even tell you - between us - that I am personally willing to investigate this issue in the currently running "RC building design series". I do not have the definite answer for you yet, so your question is 100% spot on.
I have added this point to my "TODO" for the RC building design series. So you will get a video about that soon.
Thnx for being an awesome member. Stay tuned for more content,
CEE
This was the wind in one direction in a 3D structure, what should we do for the other direction ?
Autodesk robot is weak in wind load. The only thing it can do is to do in 1 direction (1 plane, so x-z for example)
For 3D, you need to use a wind analysis in robot.
@@CivilEngineeringEssentials Do you recommend the wind simulation over the ASCE procedure ?