It's unforgivable that Schneider brings Haynes to the team in the 3rd Round, a round where you expect your pick to crack the starting lineup in his first year and he gets here and they say he's not physical enough to supplant the worst OG in the NFL in Bradford. Like, you couldn't have figured out he wasn't physical enough to be an NFL lineman before you picked him in the friggin 3rd round?!! I want Schneider gone so bad. He's failed so much on his draft picks as well as his free agent signings. Don't make Pete the scapegoat here. The lack of quality talent on this team is on Schneider. We need a GM who will prioritize building an OL and can evaluate OL talent more accurately.
If everyone already knows of the o-line problems, than why haven't they solved them, by replacing or having a more mobile quarterback that doesn't sit in the pocket all day expecting 3 seconds of time to throw each time?
In the meantime the niners 3rd round gaurd is on track for pro bowl rookie season. Yeah, good job Schneider...next time just pick an undersized receiver
This is exactly what I said about Tomlinson when he was acquired. It's pretty obvious that O-Line doesn't matter to Schneider. If it did he would do something about the problem instead of the same old thing over and over again.
@@covenant11 I was begging for Schneider to bring in another OT because I just knew Lucas wasn't coming back soon (if ever) and we'd get stuck with Stone Forsythe or worse playing there. Turns out I was even too optimistic and we have Jerrell playing there now. Schneider of course did nothing.
If you have a bad o-line than you need a more mobile quarterback, not sure the 34 year old legs of Geno Smith has much left in them, especially begging for a new contract. Reminds me of Russell Wilson last few years on the Seahawks and not running and losing a lot of games.
@@gamezonereactions8388 are you actually watching? Geno is doing pretty well in spite of his line...let's talk about 3.5 per carry on 25 attempts...THAT is far more impactful than the hooey you are selling.
@@covenant11 Are you watching the 1 for 4 in the red zone and 2 critical interceptions in the fourth quarter that cost us the game? I mean do you understand it only takes 1 play to lose the game? You are talking about numbers that don't mean anything if you lose, you know this right?
@@gamezonereactions8388 what about the rest of the stats? yes, those are terrible plays, made under duress...because his o-line is at the very bottom of the league and they cant run and feel like they have to throw in the red zone...what about all the REST of the stats mr cherry picker?
The Hawks seem unable to complete short 7 yard passes with the ease that most other teams do regularly. We're almost always going deep. You can't win games by throwing bombs all day.
Grubb needs to implement more screens and quick passes to help this oline. Maybe even run more 11 and 12 personel. Similar to what slowik did for the texans last year
So both Schlereth and Baldinger talk about Coaching and Playcalling/Scheme. Maybe people will finally listen. What do you expect to happen when you put Geno in Empty all the time, have him pass 40 times a game. Nobody passes as much as we do. We're inviting teams to tee off on him.
@@donttrip1818 I said the same thing about carol? I might have But i think it's true about schneider because i think they only have like 1 or 2 years max before they legally have to sell the team right? So just common sense would say that they wouldn't want to bother with switching gms right before they switch owners A new owner will most likely completely change everything from the gm down
Mina Kimes said that the 8.7 yard average to go on 3rd down is the worst in the NFL since 1980!!! These aren't backups. They have no business playing in the NFL. And Geno can't throw short because there is a helmet a couple yards from him before he can plant his back foot.
Its mostly coaching. We have a rookie HC, rookie OC, and rookie Oline coach. Grubb calling so many shotgun plays makes it tougher on the Oline. Running out of shotgun so much makes it easy for linebackers to see the play develop
The offensive line doesn't hang on to the ball too long. They also don't expect the pocket to last more than 3 seconds. I've never seen them sit in the pocket and wait to be sacked either. And they don't throw interceptions by making poor decisions. If the quarterback can't make up for the weak spots in the offensive line, than maybe you have the wrong QB.
Rams fan here. If y’all can’t run the ball and it’s always 2nd or 3rd and long, you’re gonna get those coverage sacks waiting for WRs to get open. Plus our pass rush so good, we were dropping 7 and still getting to Geno with 4. We literally never had to blitz.How is that his fault?
A lot of people thinking the answer is to just shift to the short game and screens. However, all that does is invite teams to play even closer to the line. We will have just as many troubles, if not more. Atleast the consistent threat of a deep ball forces more DB’s on to the field. We are already taking advantage of the middle of the field unlike anything we have in the past 2 decades, Grubb has great deep ball concepts, his short game concepts could use some more work. The harsh truth is that our 0-line is just not playoff caliber at the moment. No amount of scheming is going to change that. Some adjustments could make us a fringe playoff team but that is our best case scenario. It is unfortunate we have all this talent at the skill but not enough on the line. There has been a dearth of effective o-linemen in the last decade that has made this additionally challenging but certain gaffs by the organization have defiantly cost us. It’s easy to get hyper focused on that and ignore the amazing amount of talent the office has picked up on the d-line, secondary, and at WR. Also, I think Connor and our new LB could be here to stay. Connor has been improving each week for the most part and if he can solidify the center position and some of our guys get back healthy then we could have a shot at a semi-decent line. Cross, Connor, and Lucas could be a solid starting 3. I’d like to see Haynes or Olu get some work at left guard. Bradford looks like he could make a big jump in year 3 but no guarantees. I’ve noticed that guys on the right rarely get to Geno like they should, while guys on the left get to him more often than they should, and I think it is because Geno clearly trusts the left side of the line more than the right, for good reason. If we didn’t have Cross at left tackle…….we’d be looking at historic levels of sack numbers right now. You don’t need all your o-linemen to be great but you do need to be able to hang your hat on something and have at least 3/1 side of the line to be dependable. I honestly think we are simply 1 quality LG away from being dramatically better on offense with Cross and Connor. If we can get better play on the right side as well then we’d be downright dangeruss. 😂 This looks like a 2-3 year retooling of the team and we are in year 1. I suspect our O-line and defense will get better and our receiving talent will get worse by the time they are done.
I'd love to talk about the o-line but after we all come together to help Brock stop saying "eye in the sky" anymore. Here are my contributions. Film Game Tape Film Study The film The game The game tape The game film Sentence ideas: Did you watch the game? Have you done some film study? What do you think after watching the game? Have you had a chance to process your feelings after watching the game/film/tape? Love you Brock. Our O-Line sucks. At least that's what the eye in the sky tells me.
Geno just standing there like he’s stuck in concrete. The line was worse when Wilson was there. He ran for his life every weekend but he took alllll the blame
I mean, weird take i guess. Laken has been top 26 guards in the NFL barring the first 2 weeks. Cross has been great thus year. Williams is a mess, Bradford took a massive step back this season, and we're literally on our 4th string RT. RG And RT are a majority of our pressures, and you can't plan for 3 players getting injured at RT nor your RG who was average last season being arguably the worst in the league this year.
Yeah, backups made of cardboard cut outs☹️ I do love my team, but these guys.... I hope they start training for these guys, but when will we see them? 2035?!😞 Maybe we should go scout wrestlers or something (do they already do that? Idk. I knew Ken Walker wrestled🤷♀️). How about middle school teachers? They gotta defend themselves from crazy kids. This would be perfect training!
yeah we all knew this at the beginning of the season. Baldy just catchin up? Strange thing is they are still in the playoff mix in the NFC west. even more strange with a better record than Dallas , Rodgers and the Jets and Joe burrow and the Bengals losing another. The amazing thing is even with a bad o-line and bad run defense The Hawks have been a contender in every game . Couple that with all the mistakes penalties and bad coaching decisions I think the seahawks aint doin too bad in the Mcdonalds coaching crews first season. How them Bears doin with Waldren and Williams.
This is he problem with football coaches in game decision -making; ours do this all the time and we have for a while now( with Pete too) Ryan Grubb has obviously disappointed so far I expected much better scheming from Grubb several bad calls especially at crunch time and this " check with me at the line " is not buying us anything ,,, they look poorly coached
This crap has been going on since Carrol and Schneider were hired...jeezus, remember they hired Tom Cable to coach the O line? He actually took defensive lineman and tried to re-train them! Now they just take big, slow, fat slobs who can't block. Pathetic.
They are protecting a QB that spent 95% of his career as a backup 😅 Geno holds the ball to long... Rams do have a super bowl QB Hawks have a washed up QB , Geno Sucks
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"they look like back-ups"
I wish I would have come up with that phrase🤣
Geno Smith copyrighted it already, along with the "didn't write back though."
That’s cuz they are backups 😂
Including Geno Smith.
Laken shouldn’t be in the league lol
@@gamezonereactions8388you don’t know what you’re talking about
John Schneider is crushing it with the O line, as usual. I wonder if Christian Haynes will be a healthy scratch against next game.
It's unforgivable that Schneider brings Haynes to the team in the 3rd Round, a round where you expect your pick to crack the starting lineup in his first year and he gets here and they say he's not physical enough to supplant the worst OG in the NFL in Bradford. Like, you couldn't have figured out he wasn't physical enough to be an NFL lineman before you picked him in the friggin 3rd round?!! I want Schneider gone so bad. He's failed so much on his draft picks as well as his free agent signings. Don't make Pete the scapegoat here. The lack of quality talent on this team is on Schneider. We need a GM who will prioritize building an OL and can evaluate OL talent more accurately.
If everyone already knows of the o-line problems, than why haven't they solved them, by replacing or having a more mobile quarterback that doesn't sit in the pocket all day expecting 3 seconds of time to throw each time?
In the meantime the niners 3rd round gaurd is on track for pro bowl rookie season. Yeah, good job Schneider...next time just pick an undersized receiver
This is exactly what I said about Tomlinson when he was acquired. It's pretty obvious that O-Line doesn't matter to Schneider. If it did he would do something about the problem instead of the same old thing over and over again.
@@covenant11 I was begging for Schneider to bring in another OT because I just knew Lucas wasn't coming back soon (if ever) and we'd get stuck with Stone Forsythe or worse playing there. Turns out I was even too optimistic and we have Jerrell playing there now. Schneider of course did nothing.
If you have a bad o-line than you need a more mobile quarterback, not sure the 34 year old legs of Geno Smith has much left in them, especially begging for a new contract. Reminds me of Russell Wilson last few years on the Seahawks and not running and losing a lot of games.
@@gamezonereactions8388 are you actually watching? Geno is doing pretty well in spite of his line...let's talk about 3.5 per carry on 25 attempts...THAT is far more impactful than the hooey you are selling.
@@covenant11 Are you watching the 1 for 4 in the red zone and 2 critical interceptions in the fourth quarter that cost us the game? I mean do you understand it only takes 1 play to lose the game? You are talking about numbers that don't mean anything if you lose, you know this right?
@@gamezonereactions8388 what about the rest of the stats? yes, those are terrible plays, made under duress...because his o-line is at the very bottom of the league and they cant run and feel like they have to throw in the red zone...what about all the REST of the stats mr cherry picker?
What do you expect when aside from Cross, they’re a bunch of cast offs and washed ups from other teams?
2 of the 5….lol
Except for the 2 new guys that aren't being given a chance for some reason, Olu and Laumea.
As a backup offensive lineman I'm highly offended by Baldinger's comment! 😆
The Hawks seem unable to complete short 7 yard passes with the ease that most other teams do regularly. We're almost always going deep. You can't win games by throwing bombs all day.
I think that’s the college mind of grubb, he needs to quickly mature to the fact that you can’t rely on deep routes in nfl ball
🤣🤣
Grubb needs to implement more screens and quick passes to help this oline. Maybe even run more 11 and 12 personel. Similar to what slowik did for the texans last year
Seven sacks! I thought Aaron Donald retired.😂
If they still had Donald they would’ve had 12 sacks 😆😝
@travesotom6890 😂Sounds about right.
Our starters have been backup quality for like 8 straight seasons
Right exactly
We could go 9
It’s crazy that this is the O-Line that they went into the season with. And people get paid to make these decisions?!?
So both Schlereth and Baldinger talk about Coaching and Playcalling/Scheme. Maybe people will finally listen.
What do you expect to happen when you put Geno in Empty all the time, have him pass 40 times a game. Nobody passes as much as we do.
We're inviting teams to tee off on him.
I think Grubb needs at least 3 solid O-linemen to run the type of scheme they want to. He definitely needs to adjust with this o-linemen
Listen to what? Tank the team? Fire JS?
Redskins won 3 SB with different QB, different RB but same O-line!
They look like backup because they are backups being paraded as starters...the right side of line are 4th rounder 7th rounder.
The Rams are dangerous because their coach is good.
This might be the first time Schneider actually hears and sees how bad the o line is. No hiding from it now. Fix it or someone else will
Stuck with schneider until they sell the team
@@DREADEYE_KNIGHTsaid the same about pete
@@donttrip1818
I said the same thing about carol?
I might have
But i think it's true about schneider because i think they only have like 1 or 2 years max before they legally have to sell the team right?
So just common sense would say that they wouldn't want to bother with switching gms right before they switch owners
A new owner will most likely completely change everything from the gm down
Ryan seems like an upgrade over Salk.
Brian or Brady???
Mina Kimes said that the 8.7 yard average to go on 3rd down is the worst in the NFL since 1980!!! These aren't backups. They have no business playing in the NFL. And Geno can't throw short because there is a helmet a couple yards from him before he can plant his back foot.
Its mostly coaching. We have a rookie HC, rookie OC, and rookie Oline coach. Grubb calling so many shotgun plays makes it tougher on the Oline. Running out of shotgun so much makes it easy for linebackers to see the play develop
@@mikeb1596 It's so much easier to hide the ball in play action if you start out under center as well.
That's just how the Seahawks do business
The offensive line doesn't hang on to the ball too long. They also don't expect the pocket to last more than 3 seconds. I've never seen them sit in the pocket and wait to be sacked either. And they don't throw interceptions by making poor decisions. If the quarterback can't make up for the weak spots in the offensive line, than maybe you have the wrong QB.
Rams fan here. If y’all can’t run the ball and it’s always 2nd or 3rd and long, you’re gonna get those coverage sacks waiting for WRs to get open. Plus our pass rush so good, we were dropping 7 and still getting to Geno with 4. We literally never had to blitz.How is that his fault?
Smith definitely isn't a sb caliber qb that's for sure
They look like backups because they are!!! 😂
remember how the 90s cowboys fix the problem of losing? they got better o line and troy wasn't gettin killed
Ouch. Hey John S. are you paying attention to Baldy?
Nope and he doesn’t care
Baldy is saying the coaching is bad .
A lot of people thinking the answer is to just shift to the short game and screens. However, all that does is invite teams to play even closer to the line. We will have just as many troubles, if not more. Atleast the consistent threat of a deep ball forces more DB’s on to the field. We are already taking advantage of the middle of the field unlike anything we have in the past 2 decades, Grubb has great deep ball concepts, his short game concepts could use some more work. The harsh truth is that our 0-line is just not playoff caliber at the moment. No amount of scheming is going to change that. Some adjustments could make us a fringe playoff team but that is our best case scenario. It is unfortunate we have all this talent at the skill but not enough on the line. There has been a dearth of effective o-linemen in the last decade that has made this additionally challenging but certain gaffs by the organization have defiantly cost us. It’s easy to get hyper focused on that and ignore the amazing amount of talent the office has picked up on the d-line, secondary, and at WR. Also, I think Connor and our new LB could be here to stay. Connor has been improving each week for the most part and if he can solidify the center position and some of our guys get back healthy then we could have a shot at a semi-decent line. Cross, Connor, and Lucas could be a solid starting 3. I’d like to see Haynes or Olu get some work at left guard. Bradford looks like he could make a big jump in year 3 but no guarantees. I’ve noticed that guys on the right rarely get to Geno like they should, while guys on the left get to him more often than they should, and I think it is because Geno clearly trusts the left side of the line more than the right, for good reason. If we didn’t have Cross at left tackle…….we’d be looking at historic levels of sack numbers right now. You don’t need all your o-linemen to be great but you do need to be able to hang your hat on something and have at least 3/1 side of the line to be dependable. I honestly think we are simply 1 quality LG away from being dramatically better on offense with Cross and Connor. If we can get better play on the right side as well then we’d be downright dangeruss. 😂 This looks like a 2-3 year retooling of the team and we are in year 1. I suspect our O-line and defense will get better and our receiving talent will get worse by the time they are done.
I'd love to talk about the o-line but after we all come together to help Brock stop saying "eye in the sky" anymore.
Here are my contributions.
Film
Game
Tape
Film Study
The film
The game
The game tape
The game film
Sentence ideas:
Did you watch the game?
Have you done some film study?
What do you think after watching the game?
Have you had a chance to process your feelings after watching the game/film/tape?
Love you Brock. Our O-Line sucks. At least that's what the eye in the sky tells me.
Ob literally is a backup facts.
Thanks....we already knew this
Well that ended Abruptly
The game is won behind the trenches...
How john only looks at the defensive trenches after decades in football is just WILD
Screw the OLine, can 710 trade Salk for Brady for the AM show? Oh wait, that position group won’t get addressed when Salk is the GM 😅
Geno just standing there like he’s stuck in concrete. The line was worse when Wilson was there. He ran for his life every weekend but he took alllll the blame
“They look like backups “
I mean, weird take i guess. Laken has been top 26 guards in the NFL barring the first 2 weeks. Cross has been great thus year. Williams is a mess, Bradford took a massive step back this season, and we're literally on our 4th string RT.
RG And RT are a majority of our pressures, and you can't plan for 3 players getting injured at RT nor your RG who was average last season being arguably the worst in the league this year.
Yeah, backups made of cardboard cut outs☹️ I do love my team, but these guys.... I hope they start training for these guys, but when will we see them? 2035?!😞 Maybe we should go scout wrestlers or something (do they already do that? Idk. I knew Ken Walker wrestled🤷♀️).
How about middle school teachers? They gotta defend themselves from crazy kids. This would be perfect training!
yeah we all knew this at the beginning of the season. Baldy just catchin up? Strange thing is they are still in the playoff mix in the NFC west. even more strange with a better record than Dallas , Rodgers and the Jets and Joe burrow and the Bengals losing another. The amazing thing is even with a bad o-line and bad run defense The Hawks have been a contender in every game . Couple that with all the mistakes penalties and bad coaching decisions I think the seahawks aint doin too bad in the Mcdonalds coaching crews first season. How them Bears doin with Waldren and Williams.
Hawks need better player evalulators. Time for JS to ride into the sunset
The oline for the seahawks are not that good. They should cut those guys and start over.
Fisk is better than Murphy.
Lol I thought I same
Facts
Well it's the truth
This is he problem with football coaches in game decision -making; ours do this all the time and we have for a while now( with Pete too) Ryan Grubb has obviously disappointed so far I expected much better scheming from Grubb several bad calls especially at crunch time and this " check with me at the line " is not buying us anything ,,, they look poorly coached
Because they are backups…
This crap has been going on since Carrol and Schneider were hired...jeezus, remember they hired Tom Cable to coach the O line? He actually took defensive lineman and tried to re-train them! Now they just take big, slow, fat slobs who can't block. Pathetic.
Your line can't run. The old line can't pass protect. The average third down play is 8.9 yd. Worst in the league since 1980. Nothing more to say.
Geno be top 3 with a top oline
You are delusional af. 🤣
Geno is a back up get rid of him asap!!!
GENO IS BLACK AND SAM HOWELL IS WHITE,, THAT IS WHY SEAHAWKS FANS WANT GENO SMITH BENCHED
Ahh yes if we get rid of geno that would instantly upgrade our o-line.
@ls3hntr18 ah yes, another excuses .. if you put the 1990's Dallas cowboys o line geno would still suck
@ls3hntr18 Great qb will make an oline look good
@@Nashvillethegoqt1234 you’re gonna suck obviously when you have 2 seconds to throw.
Geno is greedy and not good. Making Oline having to block extra long. Start Howell.
They are protecting a QB that spent 95% of his career as a backup 😅 Geno holds the ball to long... Rams do have a super bowl QB Hawks have a washed up QB , Geno Sucks
Backups is giving these dudes too much credit !