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As a Brazilian myself, Roots is an album that means so much to me. Capoeira, Brazilian music styles like Maracatu, Samba, Baião and more, shoutouts to important figures like Chico Mendes (an advocate for the human rights of indigenous people), Brazilian folklore, the list goes on. The classic 'Ditadura nunca mais' cry (Dictatorship, never again) is also present. And much, much more. It's a significant album, a smartly crafted one. This was Sepultura embracing where they come from. I'll always be grateful for that.
Here in Brazil, Roots, in my opinion, is the most celebrated album by our heavy metal community and musicians in general. References to indigenous culture, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, Slavery, Christian submission and other subjects of our history and "roots" just make a perfect fit. Plus the music for me is just awesome.
I hate it, it sounds horrible. I listen to all kinds of rock and metal, except for alternative-rap garbage like limp bizkit and most of sepultura albums, there's just something wrong with them
I can definitely see where the hate came from with most of these albums. In my eyes, I think most of them are pretty cool, especially Roots and Diabolus.
I was about to say I like ROOTS. I do hold BENEATH and ARISE closer to my heart personally, but I thought ROOTS was creative and innovative. Kind of " out there" at the time. DIABOLUS was the tour I saw Slayer on twice in one week. I play it all the time. Why fans hate it? Its tuned low. That's it. Otherwise it is a raging Slayer album, Point is killer, Stain of Mind, on and on. I dont think faster is better, it's kind of imbecilic to praise a piece of music based solely upon its BPM ( beats per minute) count.
Sepultura has so many good albums but Roots is up there for me. The new Album Quadra is also amazing. But for their old sound Beneath the Remains is still my favorite.
It was the first for me too. It was new when I heard it, I fuckin love it… every song is good! Their whole discography is great! It’s a real shame it’s over now though. RIP COB ✌️🖤🤘
I didn't even know Are You Dead Yet got hate. That's my favorite album of all time from my favorite band of all time!! Another bunch of albums that I think were overhated that I loved are Broken by Memphis May Fire, Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler by Waking The Cadaver, Tomorrow We Die Alive by Born of Osiris, In Becoming a Ghost by The Faceless and You Can't Stop Me by Suicide Silence
Opeth’s “Heritage” gets a lot of hate because it was their transitionary album from their death metal sound to their prog sound, but I love the experimental elements in it. “The Devil’s Orchard” and “Häxprocess” put you in a trance, and songs like “Nepenthe” and “Famine” prove that the prog sound can still be heavy.
I love Heritage! The Devil's Orchard is one of my favorite tracks. That solo at the end is so powerful. I enjoy Lines in my Hand a lot too. As far as their clean vocals only phase, I'd rank them like this: 1. Pale Communion 2. In Cauda Venenum 3. Heritage 4. Sorceress I like them all though. I'd say Sorceress deserves a reissue with some mixing.
In a separate comment, I'd like to say that Slayer's Bitter Peace is a strong contender for my favorite Slayer track. It's such an exciting track! I feel it encapsulates the band's career super well. The Thrashy stuff, the more groove-oriented stuff. It's all there. And Paul Bostaph's bass drum sounds delightfully heavy here. Damn!
I've noticed a propensity for some people to slam on Bostaph and the albums he is on while conversely praising any and all older material with Lombardo behind the kit. BOSTAPH is a badass. I enjoy the albums with the two different drummers, each one brings out different aspects or accents of the same band while feeling totally different. GEMINI is a nasty mid tempo brooding off kilter , thunderous death stalk of a tune, while ANGEL OF DEATH is a full bore pulse pounding war beat. I have love for both drummers and the different style and feel they tap into. ( some crazy music geek rambling right there, I better call it a night. Apologies, lol)
Apparently i just talk to the filthy metal casuals but theyre right on this one. I would say i like everything thru blooddrunk just havent listened to the rest of it.
The Faceless last album, In Becoming A Ghost, I really enjoyed. I also think As Blood Runs Black's Ground Zero album is better than what people say. I'm gonna also add Fallujah's Undying Light, and while I understand why people don't like it, I don't think overall as an album it's as bad as people say. And lastly, Trivium's Silence In The Snow.
When Roots came out I was 16 and my friends and I dismissed it because it wasn’t what we expected. Looking back I really enjoy it and can see we were closed-minded idiots who just wanted the same thing we’d had before and we’re afraid of anything culturally unusual to us.
I’ll never understand why Reroute and Are You Dead Yet took so much heat. Some of the finest metal of the 2000s imo. I don’t understand how Trigger and In Your Face alone couldn’t win fans over
Risk isn't a bad album. I genuinely like Diabolus in Musica. Good heavy album. Roots, for me, is an easy pick for least favorite Sepultura album. It doesn't straight suck or anything, I just like literally any and everything else they've ever done better. That's all I feel like commenting on.
I will boldly state the Black Album is most definitely one of the most overhated metal albums of all time....that album back when I was a 14 year old teen back in the early 90's was the ultimate gateway into the world of metal that is forever....turning 45 years old and still rocking.
Roots, Are You Dead Yet?, and Reroute to Remain all kick ass and as far as I'm concerned are discography highlights for each band. I remember Dave Grohl even saying Roots was a top 10 fave album for him, and who the fuck are we to argue? Also completely agree with Once More 'Round the Sun, that's just a fun album from start to finish. I feel like half the hate for that album came from the video for The Motherload, which frankly I thought was hilarious. One album I think gets way too much hate is the recent Behemoth album, I Loved You At Your Darkest. It had the unenviable task of following up The Satanist, and honestly I like that they went in a different direction and tried some new things. The atmosphere on the album alone is top-notch.
I avoided St.Anger for soooo long thanks to the bad reviews. When i finally decided to take a listen i got immediately addicted to the energy. I don't care if the snare is making my eardrums bleed, i just love the energy (yeah the lyricst and songwriting are bland but in the context of the band in 2003 its actually not that bad.) I like being one of the few st anger enjoyers.
This reminds me of Decibel's "Defend Your Shitty Taste" column, I love when people try to take albums with a bad reputation and search for the good and try to defend them, I think its artistically so much more valuable than just tearing artists or albums down because its popular to.
That tour was my conversion to SLAYER and all that they are. Went to a show one night, won tickets off the radio on the way home to see them two nights later at another venue, a smaller club. It was something on a whole different level. The only other band I saw bring that level of fully realized unity was Judas Priest. Great album, great band, great show. ( Kerry has said in interviews that PRIEST was a Huge influence on him and the bands development. I can see it.)
I actually haven't seen anyone dislike Once More 'Round the Sub and I'm glad this album does get some love, especially in recent years. It's my favorite Mastodon album post Crack the Skye.
Never understood the hate that Once More Round the Sun got. It's my personal favorite Mastodon record, and the first one I heard from the band. Is it their objective best? No. But it's damn good
I honestly wasn’t even big into Dubstep, but I swear I felt like the only person who liked Path to Totality when it came out and stand by that. It was also a lot more aggro than anything Korn had done in awhile. I do like early Sepultura, but I remember Roots being regarded as some kind of landmark when it came out, then everyone hated it, and now it’s come back around to seemingly high regard from most except the staunchest elitists. Reroute to Remain is amazing, and it got me into In Flames. I do like their four classic era pure melodic death metal albums, but I do think their next four albums are good to exceptional.
Slayer's God Hates Us All was also hated too by old school fans. What's funny is that lots of Nu Metal fans love that record but many old school thrashers were like "This is Slayer for Nu Metal posers" and stupid shit like that.
As a brazilian, Roots is a fucking masterpiece for me, it makes me feel proud of being born here everytime i listen to it, and besides that "emotional" side of the album, the sound just slaps harder than most bands that claim themselves as that "death black doom norwegian funeral metal" bullshit or that kind of stuff, Roots just hits different, it is the rage of a nation embodied in a album. I mean, what band besides Sepultura can play a breakdown with a FODENDO BERIMBAU? Sorry for the big text, but that's it, always remember your roots my friends, always.
Time changes the way people feel about music. At the time, some of them seemed faddy. But in retrospect, they were top quality metal albums. Diabolis in Musica sounds so good to me now.
Risk is such a strange album. It continues some of the Cryptic Writings direction but seems to lose the plot. Has some signature Megadeth catchiness but twisted for very insincere reasons, which is ultimately my issue with it.
Deftones’ “Deftones” and Saturday Night Wrist come under heavy scrutiny, and whilst not their greatest works, both albums still have decent tracks like Battle-axe and Hole in the Earth. I know Chino was going through a dark phase during these recordings, that’s why he hates them, but retrospectively, they’re not terrible albums. I love Morbid Angel as well, but I can’t defend their “I” album though…
Did "Roots" really get that much hate? I remember it being almost universally lauded in the press when it dropped. Sepultura don't get interesting for me until "Arise", and Roots is one of my favourites for sure.
Thank you! It's like the first time I've seen some appreciation for Swansong, personally I love that album and I've never understood why everyone say it's boring.
Personally i have no problem with Big 4 thrash metal bands tried something else other than pure thrash. if they still stuck to that root the rest of entire life, they may had been faded into obscurity since thrash metal didn't do well commercially in the late 90's. there's the reason why Metallica have so many fans.
SAINT ANGER ! By Metallica The illusion of progress by staind Evolution by disturbed Linkin park - 10,000 suns Metallica - Death magnetic Sepultura - ROOTS In flames - In route to remain
Dream theater- The astonishing Megadeth- Risk Metallica- Load/Reload Devin Townsend- Dark matters Black sabbath- Never say die! Judas priest- Nostradamus Opeth- albums past Watershed
I understand the hate for Roots, but this was my gateway into the band. This is still a great album. Diabolus is definitely a second-tier Slayer album at best. But this album was also my gateway into Slayer. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is often considered the worst of the best for Maiden. But this was the album I decided to buy on a whim and was my gateway into the band. I've been listening to metal since I was 5 or 6 years old. King Diamond, Mercyful Fate, Metallica, Scorpions were my early favorites. Followed by Pantera and Skid Row. Pre-internet, it was tough for me to experience some of the essentials like Slayer, Maiden, Priest, etc. I was limited to the rare occurrence I was able to stay up late and was able to catch Headbanger's Ball. Not sure if my musical journey was unique or not. But it wasn't until i reached middle school that I was able to meet some other kids with an interest in heavy music that I was able to really explore the metal world outside of Headbanger's Ball and Hit Paradee magazine.
i dont get hating on a band/artist for changing styles, its completely normal and they should be able to take their music in whatever direction, you dont have to like it, but just dont hate on them for changing styles.
i absolutely agree with a few here ,now i do think are you dead yet is kinda a gateway album and its definitely not deserving of being the most popular COB album , but i agree people hate on it too much and its still a decent fun album , and with silence in the snow and reroute to remain , i'm just shocked that people even hate them ,(i'm obviously over-exaggerating here) but i don't know how anybody with healthy functional ears could listen to those and dislike them , they're actually both probably in the top 5 records by each of those bands for me (though i will say one issue i do find with silence in the snow is that the tracks are all kinda similar so listening to the whole thing may be boring but the songs on their own are all great )
Going back to Roots it certainly has lost abit of its edge, but it was very influential to me, growing up and nu metal being big when I was getting into metal, it was through listening to roots and deciding to check Sepulturas back catalogue that helped expose me to thrash and even death metal to an extent, I still think cut throat and ratamahatta are pretty decent though
Risk: Disagree Roots: Agree I Haven’t Listened To The Children Of Bodom Album Diablos In Musica: Agree Once More Around The Sun: Agree The Path Of Totality: Disagree Silence In The Snow: Haven’t Listened I Also Haven’t Listen To The In Flames Album Swansong: Agree My Picks Would Be Exodus: Force Of Habit Machine Head: The Burning Red/Supercharger Fear Factory: Transgression Anthrax: Stomp 442 PanterA: All Of The First 4 Albums Testament: Demonic Overkill: The Killing Kind/ From The Underground And Below Sepultura: Roots Slayer: Diablos In Musica And Countless Others
For me: Carcass-Swansong Testament-Demonic Anaal Nathrakh-A New Kind Of Horror Metallica-Hardwired Slipknot-All Hope Is Gone Periphery - Periphery 1 (People complain about Spencer's vocals on this album. I like his vocals on this album a lot but he has gotten better) Opeth-Damnation
@@sentinel2914 People who are fans of the death metal era of Opeth sometimes complain about this album. Personally I love the album it showed their softer side
It really makes me scratch my head when it comes to Sepultura Roots and the hate..I was a teenager when it came out and everyone of my friends and everyone else I know in my generation (40 years old) loved it and thought it was an absolute banger in 1996. We were all repping Chaos AD and Roots hard..no one at the time cared about Schizophrenia or BTR nearly as much.. It’s such a trend now for younger people to bash most of the groove heavy stuff that came out in the 90s and only praise 1991 death metal.
Faith No More's Album of the Year, such an overlooked gem, that was out shadowed by the Angel Dust Also, Coroner's Grin and Ministry's Filth Pig getting much more hate that it's needed, just for being not like earlier albums in band's catalogue
Everything Ministry ever did, and anything Al will ever do, exists in the shadow of Land of Rape & Honey. The sun will one day turn into a red giant, and burn the Earth to a cinder, and some wanker will still say that Land of Rape & Honey was better than that.
I am a huge Trivium fan and I always liked Silence in the snow. It's amazing overall album, very consistent, and yes, Matt's vocals probably never sounded better! It's not my all time favourite Trivium album, but it's like 3rd or 4th place to me. Very strong album
I would put Digimortal by Fear Factory on this list. Still many to this day speak poorly of it, but I personally love it. Reroute to Remain is a banger. I am an old school IF fan, but I adore this album. It was their White album to Metallica's Black album. So many good songs, System is a favourite! Swansong slaps! Nothing bad by Carcass.
@@dmphax I dig it.. I’m a fan since Demanufacture came out. I remember buying The Digimortal cd digipack the week it came out..Outside of the song with Cypress Hill (and I do like Cypress Hill) I think it holds up.
Mastodon is one of if not my favorite band and I love once more round the sun. I could say on some days it is in my top three. I think it’s some of their best song writing. Another album I like is forbidden by Black Sabbath. You can’t change my mind.
Sepultura had a lot of good albums before roots but mainly Rise and Chaos ad. I think roorback was pretty good. But again this is all subjective and matters of preference.
I would add “The Burning Red” to this list. Maybe it’s nostalgia for my high school years listening to the album on repeat the summer it came out, but I love the dark vide of that album. Desire to Fire, Nothing Left, Five and the title track are awesome.
Honestly, never got the Silence in the Snow hate. It's a very decent record. And this is coming from someone who very much likes Matt's harsher and the Hetfield style vocals. It's like a power metal record and it's great imo
IMHO, these metal albums are all overhated: 1-Within Temptation's past 2 albums Hydra & Resist 2-Deftones' Saturday Night Wrist(absolutely FANTASTIC album IMHO) 3-Trivium's The Crusade & Vengeance Falls 4-Parkway Drive's Darker Still and IRE albums(Not super crazy about Reverence however) 5-Machine Head's The Burning Red 6-Anthrax's Sound Of White Noise(My 2nd favorite behind Among The Living) 7-All That Remain's Overcome, For We Are Many & A War You Cannot Win albums 8-In Hearts Wake's Kaliyuga 9-Five Finger Death Punch's material through Got Your Six
I'm sorry. I respect your opinion and love your channel so no offense is meant. I just found it funny how on a video of overhated albums, Super Collider didn't manage to find it's way onto this list other than as an example of how "bad" it is compared to Risk. I never truly understood the hate that album received. I'll concede that's lyrically, it's not Mustaine's best work. But the album still hits pretty hard for me. Awesome list nonetheless. Keep up the great work. :)
My most overhated album is Illud divinum insanum. I love songs like Existovulgore,Blades for baal,10 more dead ,beauty meets Beast and nevermore. There a lot of shitty songs but these make up for the rest. David Vincent vocals in this album are some of the best of his whole carrier
I really hated Swansong when it came out, but over the years it's grown to be maybe my favorite Carcass album. The B-sides on WUaStC are also top-tier. I tried for many years to get into Mastodon, but always found them boring as hell and badly produced. OMAtS came out and my buddy recommended it and it's by far my favorite thing they've put out. The connection between these two records is, of course, a solid and well executed rock & roll sensibility that seems to be more and more absent from rock music. Also, the solos on Ember City! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I loved Mastodon's The Hunter from day one, but did not like Once More Around The Sun at all. I revisited it a few years ago and now i really love it! Also The Path Of Totally also has some great tracks produced by Kill The Noise and the GOATS, Noisia!
I've only really listened to 3 albums in this video: Sepultura, Roots, Slayer, Diabolos in Musica, and Carcass, Swan Song. Roots is literally the only nu metal I like. Diabolos was a bad album overall, but I agree it had a few good songs. Bitter Peace is vintage Slayer. I actually like Swan Song. There's a riff in Tomorrow Belongs to Nobody that I cannot not head bang to.
The dislike towards Children of Bodom always confuses me, cuz the band is the definition of fun in the metal scene. …wait nevermind I get it now, can’t have fun in metal.
Not gonna lie, I didn't even know Are You Dead Yet was overhated. I always loved it! I hate Diabolus in Musica as much as the next average metalhead, but um, what's that song called you used for the clip? Askin for a friend
I saw Sepultura only a few days ago and it was fucking awesome! I've never known any metalhead have an issue with them other than the line up changes 🤷♂️
Roots got a lot of hate and resentment from people who hated nu metal and bouncy, accessible riffs I feel like that hate has very much simmered down over time though, since nu metal and alternative metal has a better rep with the current metal fanbase
Risk is my least favorite Megadeth album. It's got some okay tracks, such as Crush 'Em, Prince of Darkness and Insomnia. Seputura's best albums are from the early days: Arise, Beneath the Remains and Chaos A.D. being my favorites.
The last track on that suicide silence is what I wish the entire album sounded like. That final track fire 🔥!! Plus reroute to remain is the shit and not shit!!! Love those synths. Plus swan song from carcass has some nice grooves. No hate from me lol.
I will defend Trivium's Crusade to the death. It's basically Shogun without screaming, the great choruses, solos, and riffs are all there, there's just barely any screaming, and to be honest, it doesn't need it. It's easily in my top 5. Silence in the Snow is a solid album too, but it's still my second least favorite Trivium album. Overkill - The Killing Kind; this used to be my favorite Overkill album. I don't understand the hate, yes it's groovier than their early stuff, but this gets me going more than most of their albums. Metallica - Reload; one of my favorite Metallica albums. Every song is enjoyable, but it isn't perfect. The only truly horrendous part is the Marriane Faithfull part in Memory Remains which kind of ruins the song for me. Opeth - Morningrise; it's in my top 3. Yes, it's drastically different than all of the albums that followed it, has more black metal and sea shanty acoustic sections, and is more self-indulgent, but I can't help but love it to death. It's not as hated on as Heritage though.
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As a Brazilian myself, Roots is an album that means so much to me. Capoeira, Brazilian music styles like Maracatu, Samba, Baião and more, shoutouts to important figures like Chico Mendes (an advocate for the human rights of indigenous people), Brazilian folklore, the list goes on. The classic 'Ditadura nunca mais' cry (Dictatorship, never again) is also present. And much, much more. It's a significant album, a smartly crafted one. This was Sepultura embracing where they come from. I'll always be grateful for that.
Thank you for sharing that. I am always curious how people from the same region feel
@@MetalTrenches My pleasure. Thank you for bringing up the album.
As a fellow Brazilian myself, I agree with everything you said
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Here in Brazil, Roots, in my opinion, is the most celebrated album by our heavy metal community and musicians in general.
References to indigenous culture, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, Slavery, Christian submission and other subjects of our history and "roots" just make a perfect fit. Plus the music for me is just awesome.
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I hate it, it sounds horrible. I listen to all kinds of rock and metal, except for alternative-rap garbage like limp bizkit and most of sepultura albums, there's just something wrong with them
Roots is the only Nu metal album I like.
@ctr289 be specific
I can definitely see where the hate came from with most of these albums. In my eyes, I think most of them are pretty cool, especially Roots and Diabolus.
I was about to say I like ROOTS. I do hold BENEATH and ARISE closer to my heart personally, but I thought ROOTS was creative and innovative. Kind of " out there" at the time.
DIABOLUS was the tour I saw Slayer on twice in one week. I play it all the time. Why fans hate it? Its tuned low. That's it. Otherwise it is a raging Slayer album, Point is killer, Stain of Mind, on and on. I dont think faster is better, it's kind of imbecilic to praise a piece of music based solely upon its BPM ( beats per minute) count.
Sepultura has so many good albums but Roots is up there for me. The new Album Quadra is also amazing. But for their old sound Beneath the Remains is still my favorite.
Glad seeing Are You Dead Yet getting some love. I think it was the first Bodom album I ever heard and over all I love it.
SO underrated
It was the first for me too. It was new when I heard it, I fuckin love it… every song is good! Their whole discography is great! It’s a real shame it’s over now though. RIP COB
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I didn't even know Are You Dead Yet got hate. That's my favorite album of all time from my favorite band of all time!! Another bunch of albums that I think were overhated that I loved are Broken by Memphis May Fire, Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler by Waking The Cadaver, Tomorrow We Die Alive by Born of Osiris, In Becoming a Ghost by The Faceless and You Can't Stop Me by Suicide Silence
Opeth’s “Heritage” gets a lot of hate because it was their transitionary album from their death metal sound to their prog sound, but I love the experimental elements in it. “The Devil’s Orchard” and “Häxprocess” put you in a trance, and songs like “Nepenthe” and “Famine” prove that the prog sound can still be heavy.
I love Heritage! The Devil's Orchard is one of my favorite tracks. That solo at the end is so powerful. I enjoy Lines in my Hand a lot too. As far as their clean vocals only phase, I'd rank them like this: 1. Pale Communion 2. In Cauda Venenum 3. Heritage 4. Sorceress
I like them all though. I'd say Sorceress deserves a reissue with some mixing.
Heritage is a great album but I love both Opeth's death metal & prog stuff.
Came here for this. Heritage is beautiful album.
In a separate comment, I'd like to say that Slayer's Bitter Peace is a strong contender for my favorite Slayer track. It's such an exciting track! I feel it encapsulates the band's career super well. The Thrashy stuff, the more groove-oriented stuff. It's all there. And Paul Bostaph's bass drum sounds delightfully heavy here. Damn!
I've noticed a propensity for some people to slam on Bostaph and the albums he is on while conversely praising any and all older material with Lombardo behind the kit. BOSTAPH is a badass. I enjoy the albums with the two different drummers, each one brings out different aspects or accents of the same band while feeling totally different. GEMINI is a nasty mid tempo brooding off kilter , thunderous death stalk of a tune, while ANGEL OF DEATH is a full bore pulse pounding war beat. I have love for both drummers and the different style and feel they tap into.
( some crazy music geek rambling right there, I better call it a night. Apologies, lol)
It’s a killer song. The first half of the album kicks some ass.
Yeah but as soon as somebody says 'encapsulates', that's it. I'm off.
I am a HUGE fan of the infamous Metallica album St. Anger. It has great riffs and it's raw as hell!
W, not a huge fan of album myself but it's definitely overhated and even the drum kit sounds great and fun
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I was under the impression are you dead yet was one of their most loved albums. It gets the most love on spotify. And by all accounts a banging album.
Depends on who you talk to
Apparently i just talk to the filthy metal casuals but theyre right on this one. I would say i like everything thru blooddrunk just havent listened to the rest of it.
Swansong was my first Carcass record and tbh this is my second favourite after Heartwork
The Faceless last album, In Becoming A Ghost, I really enjoyed. I also think As Blood Runs Black's Ground Zero album is better than what people say. I'm gonna also add Fallujah's Undying Light, and while I understand why people don't like it, I don't think overall as an album it's as bad as people say. And lastly, Trivium's Silence In The Snow.
When Roots came out I was 16 and my friends and I dismissed it because it wasn’t what we expected. Looking back I really enjoy it and can see we were closed-minded idiots who just wanted the same thing we’d had before and we’re afraid of anything culturally unusual to us.
Once More 'Round the Sun is in the top 3 of best Mastodon albums for me. Lots of super fun high energy songs that marry the old with the new.
Respect. It's my second least favorite, but the great thing about Mastodon is that every album is at least "good", if not "great" or even "amazing".
I’ll never understand why Reroute and Are You Dead Yet took so much heat. Some of the finest metal of the 2000s imo. I don’t understand how Trigger and In Your Face alone couldn’t win fans over
Risk isn't a bad album. I genuinely like Diabolus in Musica. Good heavy album. Roots, for me, is an easy pick for least favorite Sepultura album. It doesn't straight suck or anything, I just like literally any and everything else they've ever done better. That's all I feel like commenting on.
I will boldly state the Black Album is most definitely one of the most overhated metal albums of all time....that album back when I was a 14 year old teen back in the early 90's was the ultimate gateway into the world of metal that is forever....turning 45 years old and still rocking.
Roots, Are You Dead Yet?, and Reroute to Remain all kick ass and as far as I'm concerned are discography highlights for each band. I remember Dave Grohl even saying Roots was a top 10 fave album for him, and who the fuck are we to argue? Also completely agree with Once More 'Round the Sun, that's just a fun album from start to finish. I feel like half the hate for that album came from the video for The Motherload, which frankly I thought was hilarious.
One album I think gets way too much hate is the recent Behemoth album, I Loved You At Your Darkest. It had the unenviable task of following up The Satanist, and honestly I like that they went in a different direction and tried some new things. The atmosphere on the album alone is top-notch.
I'm with you on Children of Bodom! Love that album. You articulated what I was feeling because I couldn't explain it.
I avoided St.Anger for soooo long thanks to the bad reviews. When i finally decided to take a listen i got immediately addicted to the energy.
I don't care if the snare is making my eardrums bleed, i just love the energy (yeah the lyricst and songwriting are bland but in the context of the band in 2003 its actually not that bad.)
I like being one of the few st anger enjoyers.
This reminds me of Decibel's "Defend Your Shitty Taste" column, I love when people try to take albums with a bad reputation and search for the good and try to defend them, I think its artistically so much more valuable than just tearing artists or albums down because its popular to.
The hate for Slayer - Diabolus in Musica always seemed odd, still sounds very much like Slayer, not a band about to sell out.
Exactly
That tour was my conversion to SLAYER and all that they are. Went to a show one night, won tickets off the radio on the way home to see them two nights later at another venue, a smaller club. It was something on a whole different level. The only other band I saw bring that level of fully realized unity was Judas Priest. Great album, great band, great show. ( Kerry has said in interviews that PRIEST was a Huge influence on him and the bands development. I can see it.)
I actually hated the album when it was released, back in '98, but now l really like it and have several copies of it.
I actually haven't seen anyone dislike Once More 'Round the Sub and I'm glad this album does get some love, especially in recent years. It's my favorite Mastodon album post Crack the Skye.
It got quite a bit of hate when it came out.
@@MetalTrenches Well fair, but hasn't pretty much every album post Crack the Skye up until Hushed and Grim received the same treatment?
Reroute To Remain is, in isolation, a cracking album.
Never understood the hate that Once More Round the Sun got. It's my personal favorite Mastodon record, and the first one I heard from the band. Is it their objective best? No. But it's damn good
Fear of the Dark is very overhated
I honestly wasn’t even big into Dubstep, but I swear I felt like the only person who liked Path to Totality when it came out and stand by that. It was also a lot more aggro than anything Korn had done in awhile. I do like early Sepultura, but I remember Roots being regarded as some kind of landmark when it came out, then everyone hated it, and now it’s come back around to seemingly high regard from most except the staunchest elitists. Reroute to Remain is amazing, and it got me into In Flames. I do like their four classic era pure melodic death metal albums, but I do think their next four albums are good to exceptional.
Slayer's God Hates Us All was also hated too by old school fans. What's funny is that lots of Nu Metal fans love that record but many old school thrashers were like "This is Slayer for Nu Metal posers" and stupid shit like that.
As a brazilian, Roots is a fucking masterpiece for me, it makes me feel proud of being born here everytime i listen to it, and besides that "emotional" side of the album, the sound just slaps harder than most bands that claim themselves as that "death black doom norwegian funeral metal" bullshit or that kind of stuff, Roots just hits different, it is the rage of a nation embodied in a album. I mean, what band besides Sepultura can play a breakdown with a FODENDO BERIMBAU? Sorry for the big text, but that's it, always remember your roots my friends, always.
Time changes the way people feel about music. At the time, some of them seemed faddy. But in retrospect, they were top quality metal albums. Diabolis in Musica sounds so good to me now.
The way people talk about Diabolus in Musica you'd think Tom was beat boxing over a newly hired DJ.
Now I need to hear that 😂
Are you dead yet is a banger from start to finish
Risk is such a strange album. It continues some of the Cryptic Writings direction but seems to lose the plot. Has some signature Megadeth catchiness but twisted for very insincere reasons, which is ultimately my issue with it.
Yeah, I felt like it was the worst parts of Cryptic Writing but exaggerated and overdone.
People hate sepultura's roots? I didn't know that.
Yeah it’s pretty wild but I encounter it frequently
Deftones’ “Deftones” and Saturday Night Wrist come under heavy scrutiny, and whilst not their greatest works, both albums still have decent tracks like Battle-axe and Hole in the Earth.
I know Chino was going through a dark phase during these recordings, that’s why he hates them, but retrospectively, they’re not terrible albums.
I love Morbid Angel as well, but I can’t defend their “I” album though…
Agree with those as well. Deftones has a damn strong discography. Even the lesser ones are still quite good
weird
their S/T was one of my favorites as a kid and I had a friend who thought Saturday Night Wrist was their best album
I love most In Flames but Reroute to Remain is by far my favorite.
St Anger is by far my favorite of the most hated albums. And I also love Roots
Did "Roots" really get that much hate? I remember it being almost universally lauded in the press when it dropped.
Sepultura don't get interesting for me until "Arise", and Roots is one of my favourites for sure.
I get a LOT of comments whenever I mention it.
I think Roots gained them a bigger audience. Purists/critics didn’t like how it was flirting with alternative/nu-metal/groove trends
Roots was hugely popular when released.
Thank you! It's like the first time I've seen some appreciation for Swansong, personally I love that album and I've never understood why everyone say it's boring.
Personally i have no problem with Big 4 thrash metal bands tried something else other than pure thrash. if they still stuck to that root the rest of entire life, they may had been faded into obscurity since thrash metal didn't do well commercially in the late 90's. there's the reason why Metallica have so many fans.
I didn't realize people hated Reroute to Remain, one of my favorite In Flames and honestly, metal albums of all time
SAINT ANGER ! By Metallica
The illusion of progress by staind
Evolution by disturbed
Linkin park - 10,000 suns
Metallica - Death magnetic
Sepultura - ROOTS
In flames - In route to remain
Risk is incredibly underrated. Great songwriting.
You’re right about -once more round the sun. Chimes at midnight is one of my favourite tracks from them.
Dream theater- The astonishing
Megadeth- Risk
Metallica- Load/Reload
Devin Townsend- Dark matters
Black sabbath- Never say die!
Judas priest- Nostradamus
Opeth- albums past Watershed
I almost included The Astonishing
always thought The Hunter was Mastodon's worst and OMRTS was a step forward in that modern Mastodon sound, still doesn't come close the the oldies tho
I understand the hate for Roots, but this was my gateway into the band. This is still a great album. Diabolus is definitely a second-tier Slayer album at best. But this album was also my gateway into Slayer. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is often considered the worst of the best for Maiden. But this was the album I decided to buy on a whim and was my gateway into the band. I've been listening to metal since I was 5 or 6 years old. King Diamond, Mercyful Fate, Metallica, Scorpions were my early favorites. Followed by Pantera and Skid Row. Pre-internet, it was tough for me to experience some of the essentials like Slayer, Maiden, Priest, etc. I was limited to the rare occurrence I was able to stay up late and was able to catch Headbanger's Ball. Not sure if my musical journey was unique or not. But it wasn't until i reached middle school that I was able to meet some other kids with an interest in heavy music that I was able to really explore the metal world outside of Headbanger's Ball and Hit Paradee magazine.
i dont get hating on a band/artist for changing styles, its completely normal and they should be able to take their music in whatever direction, you dont have to like it, but just dont hate on them for changing styles.
They're changing their demographic which sucks as a fan bc a fan on death metal is likely not a fan of some electronic dream melody symphony shit.
History lesson: early Sepultura was very exciting, when it came out.
i absolutely agree with a few here ,now i do think are you dead yet is kinda a gateway album and its definitely not deserving of being the most popular COB album , but i agree people hate on it too much and its still a decent fun album , and with silence in the snow and reroute to remain , i'm just shocked that people even hate them ,(i'm obviously over-exaggerating here) but i don't know how anybody with healthy functional ears could listen to those and dislike them , they're actually both probably in the top 5 records by each of those bands for me (though i will say one issue i do find with silence in the snow is that the tracks are all kinda similar so listening to the whole thing may be boring but the songs on their own are all great )
Going back to Roots it certainly has lost abit of its edge, but it was very influential to me, growing up and nu metal being big when I was getting into metal, it was through listening to roots and deciding to check Sepulturas back catalogue that helped expose me to thrash and even death metal to an extent, I still think cut throat and ratamahatta are pretty decent though
Had no idea Roots was hated. I kind of like Nation and I think nobody enjoys that.
Risk: Disagree
Roots: Agree
I Haven’t Listened To The Children Of Bodom Album
Diablos In Musica: Agree
Once More Around The Sun: Agree
The Path Of Totality: Disagree
Silence In The Snow: Haven’t Listened
I Also Haven’t Listen To The In Flames Album
Swansong: Agree
My Picks Would Be
Exodus: Force Of Habit
Machine Head: The Burning Red/Supercharger
Fear Factory: Transgression
Anthrax: Stomp 442
PanterA: All Of The First 4 Albums
Testament: Demonic
Overkill: The Killing Kind/ From The Underground And Below
Sepultura: Roots
Slayer: Diablos In Musica
And Countless Others
For me:
Carcass-Swansong
Testament-Demonic
Anaal Nathrakh-A New Kind Of Horror
Metallica-Hardwired
Slipknot-All Hope Is Gone
Periphery - Periphery 1 (People complain about Spencer's vocals on this album. I like his vocals on this album a lot but he has gotten better)
Opeth-Damnation
Really? I LOVE P1
@@MetalTrenches Me too I listen to Racecar on a daily basis lol
The new kind of horror hate seems to be focused around forward. And even if u hate that track the rest of the album is great
Whoever complains about Damnation needs to seriously explain themself lol
@@sentinel2914 People who are fans of the death metal era of Opeth sometimes complain about this album. Personally I love the album it showed their softer side
you can tell people only really hate roots and diabolus in musica because they're nu metal albums, and in their eyes, nu metal = bad
Which is fucking stupid.
It really makes me scratch my head when it comes to Sepultura Roots and the hate..I was a teenager when it came out and everyone of my friends and everyone else I know in my generation (40 years old) loved it and thought it was an absolute banger in 1996. We were all repping Chaos AD and Roots hard..no one at the time cared about Schizophrenia or BTR nearly as much.. It’s such a trend now for younger people to bash most of the groove heavy stuff that came out in the 90s and only praise 1991 death metal.
Facts!!!
roots was great, very atmospheric; i loved 90's alt-metal
Faith No More's Album of the Year, such an overlooked gem, that was out shadowed by the Angel Dust
Also, Coroner's Grin and Ministry's Filth Pig getting much more hate that it's needed, just for being not like earlier albums in band's catalogue
Filth Pig is a groove machine
Everything Ministry ever did, and anything Al will ever do, exists in the shadow of Land of Rape & Honey. The sun will one day turn into a red giant, and burn the Earth to a cinder, and some wanker will still say that Land of Rape & Honey was better than that.
@@EmperorPylades I'd rather say Psalm 69 kinda outshadowed any of the later Ministry album
I am a huge Trivium fan and I always liked Silence in the snow. It's amazing overall album, very consistent, and yes, Matt's vocals probably never sounded better! It's not my all time favourite Trivium album, but it's like 3rd or 4th place to me. Very strong album
I would put Digimortal by Fear Factory on this list. Still many to this day speak poorly of it, but I personally love it.
Reroute to Remain is a banger. I am an old school IF fan, but I adore this album. It was their White album to Metallica's Black album. So many good songs, System is a favourite!
Swansong slaps! Nothing bad by Carcass.
That’s a good one. Linchpin is a fucking banger
Isn’t LinchPin their most streamed song on Spotify and Apple Music?!
@@tarkmavers170 the song is yes, but as a whole, FF take a lot of heat for the album from long time fans.
@@dmphax I dig it.. I’m a fan since Demanufacture came out. I remember buying The Digimortal cd digipack the week it came out..Outside of the song with Cypress Hill (and I do like Cypress Hill) I think it holds up.
Also, Digimortal is one of the best sounding car stereo albums..The production is great.
Diabolus is so f++ing cool and mean. Love the opening track, and Araya's vocals are insane and his best ever I think.
Mastodon is one of if not my favorite band and I love once more round the sun. I could say on some days it is in my top three. I think it’s some of their best song writing. Another album I like is forbidden by Black Sabbath. You can’t change my mind.
Sepultura had a lot of good albums before roots but mainly Rise and Chaos ad. I think roorback was pretty good. But again this is all subjective and matters of preference.
ROOTS is a F***ing masterpiece!! fusion of post, industrial and groove, experiment DONE RIGHT!!
Sorry, Roots and Chaos AD are the best albums that Sepultura put out.
I would add “The Burning Red” to this list. Maybe it’s nostalgia for my high school years listening to the album on repeat the summer it came out, but I love the dark vide of that album. Desire to Fire, Nothing Left, Five and the title track are awesome.
Diabolus is awesome.
Honestly, never got the Silence in the Snow hate. It's a very decent record. And this is coming from someone who very much likes Matt's harsher and the Hetfield style vocals. It's like a power metal record and it's great imo
Wish they did more like it.
This will be hot take:
I think St. Anger is a pretty good album. But I can see why people took a leak on it.
I’ve heard this from others too
Not a fan of the way they treated the drums, but i agree it's pretty solid overall. Lots of heavy riffs and catchy vocal lines.
Roots is great, doesn’t sound like sepultura but thats cool w me
IMHO, these metal albums are all overhated:
1-Within Temptation's past 2 albums Hydra & Resist
2-Deftones' Saturday Night Wrist(absolutely FANTASTIC album IMHO)
3-Trivium's The Crusade & Vengeance Falls
4-Parkway Drive's Darker Still and IRE albums(Not super crazy about Reverence however)
5-Machine Head's The Burning Red
6-Anthrax's Sound Of White Noise(My 2nd favorite behind Among The Living)
7-All That Remain's Overcome, For We Are Many & A War You Cannot Win albums
8-In Hearts Wake's Kaliyuga
9-Five Finger Death Punch's material through Got Your Six
Agree with most albums and mastodon and sepultura are both great albums =)
Metal Trenches has to be one of the most (also unexpecting) open minded metalhead that I have ever seen.
I'm sorry. I respect your opinion and love your channel so no offense is meant. I just found it funny how on a video of overhated albums, Super Collider didn't manage to find it's way onto this list other than as an example of how "bad" it is compared to Risk. I never truly understood the hate that album received.
I'll concede that's lyrically, it's not Mustaine's best work. But the album still hits pretty hard for me.
Awesome list nonetheless. Keep up the great work. :)
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7:05 I can't believe that the most hated album of in flames was reroute to remain, it's my favorite, that album have 5 of my favorite in flames songs
Rosenrot is the most disliked Rammstein album. Its not the really worst just the weakest. But its my favorite with all its ballads.
My most overhated album is Illud divinum insanum. I love songs like Existovulgore,Blades for baal,10 more dead ,beauty meets Beast and nevermore. There a lot of shitty songs but these make up for the rest. David Vincent vocals in this album are some of the best of his whole carrier
I tried to give that one another chance but I kind of agree with the hate on it overall
99% of people will disagree mate!
I'm with ya...i dont understand the hate 4 it either
Never met anyone who hates Roots so weird that’s not liked in general
Are You Dead Yet is definitely one of the best CoB albums, I think Halo of Blood is the most underrated
Once More Round the Sun is my favorite Mastodon album. It fuckin grooves.
I really hated Swansong when it came out, but over the years it's grown to be maybe my favorite Carcass album. The B-sides on WUaStC are also top-tier.
I tried for many years to get into Mastodon, but always found them boring as hell and badly produced. OMAtS came out and my buddy recommended it and it's by far my favorite thing they've put out.
The connection between these two records is, of course, a solid and well executed rock & roll sensibility that seems to be more and more absent from rock music. Also, the solos on Ember City! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I loved Mastodon's The Hunter from day one, but did not like Once More Around The Sun at all. I revisited it a few years ago and now i really love it!
Also The Path Of Totally also has some great tracks produced by Kill The Noise and the GOATS, Noisia!
Roots is my personal favorite Sepultura Album even before Chaos AD. (sorry) 😅🤷♂️Reroute is also very Good also one of my favorite by In Flames.
Agree Roots >>> Chaos AD
I've only really listened to 3 albums in this video: Sepultura, Roots, Slayer, Diabolos in Musica, and Carcass, Swan Song. Roots is literally the only nu metal I like. Diabolos was a bad album overall, but I agree it had a few good songs. Bitter Peace is vintage Slayer. I actually like Swan Song. There's a riff in Tomorrow Belongs to Nobody that I cannot not head bang to.
Satyricon fans generally tend to hate each new Satyricon album that comes out.
Sounds like black metal fans to me 😂
I agree with Risk it has alot cool moments and its quite A Bit Better The World Needs a Hero and Super Collider but thats just me
The dislike towards Children of Bodom always confuses me, cuz the band is the definition of fun in the metal scene.
…wait nevermind I get it now, can’t have fun in metal.
Not allowed
Not gonna lie, I didn't even know Are You Dead Yet was overhated. I always loved it! I hate Diabolus in Musica as much as the next average metalhead, but um, what's that song called you used for the clip? Askin for a friend
Stain Of Mind
Mine Are:
Gore - Deftones
Shelter - Alcest
The Valley - Whitechapel
Ordinary Corrupt Human Love - Deafheaven (their Best after New Bermuda)
I unfortunately may as well be the general of the Gore hate squad 😂
Roots is the only Sepultura album that I love start to finish.
I saw Sepultura only a few days ago and it was fucking awesome! I've never known any metalhead have an issue with them other than the line up changes 🤷♂️
Roots got a lot of hate and resentment from people who hated nu metal and bouncy, accessible riffs
I feel like that hate has very much simmered down over time though, since nu metal and alternative metal has a better rep with the current metal fanbase
Venom's "Calm Before The Storm" is banger despite some of fans dislike it's melodic sound. Also "Illud Divinum" by Morbid Angel isn't that bad.
Risk is my least favorite Megadeth album. It's got some okay tracks, such as Crush 'Em, Prince of Darkness and Insomnia. Seputura's best albums are from the early days: Arise, Beneath the Remains and Chaos A.D. being my favorites.
The last track on that suicide silence is what I wish the entire album sounded like. That final track fire 🔥!! Plus reroute to remain is the shit and not shit!!! Love those synths. Plus swan song from carcass has some nice grooves. No hate from me lol.
No matter how badly any album is received, there will always be an audience for it, even if it's a small one.
I love Are You Dead Yet. It is so quick and dirty, fantastic hooks, one of my most spun bodoms. No bullshitting around the bush with it.
I don't get the hate for All Hope Is Gone by Slipknot. I certainly like it better than Volume 3.
I will defend Trivium's Crusade to the death. It's basically Shogun without screaming, the great choruses, solos, and riffs are all there, there's just barely any screaming, and to be honest, it doesn't need it. It's easily in my top 5. Silence in the Snow is a solid album too, but it's still my second least favorite Trivium album.
Overkill - The Killing Kind; this used to be my favorite Overkill album. I don't understand the hate, yes it's groovier than their early stuff, but this gets me going more than most of their albums.
Metallica - Reload; one of my favorite Metallica albums. Every song is enjoyable, but it isn't perfect. The only truly horrendous part is the Marriane Faithfull part in Memory Remains which kind of ruins the song for me.
Opeth - Morningrise; it's in my top 3. Yes, it's drastically different than all of the albums that followed it, has more black metal and sea shanty acoustic sections, and is more self-indulgent, but I can't help but love it to death. It's not as hated on as Heritage though.
The vocals entirely ruin The Crusade for me personally.
I like Gore by Deftones, not my favorite album by them but I still jam to it frequently