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  • @SolLunaTV
    @SolLunaTV  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @raymond-qz6ld
    @raymond-qz6ld 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    2:03 Fan = Bentilador in Tagalog, while Abanico is a type of hand fan made out of Anahaw palm leaves;
    3:17 Employee = Empleyado or Kawani in Tagalog;
    4:17 Flour = Harina in Tagalog as well;
    7:01 Arm = Braso or Bisig in Tagalog as well;
    8:15 Biscuit = Biskwit/Galyetas in Tagalog;
    9:09 Island = Isla in Tagalog as well;
    10:02 Chain = Kadena or Tanikala in Tagalog;
    11:53 Mother = Ina/Inang/Nanay in Tagalog. The word Padre/Pari or Madre is commonly used to refer to a priest or nun;
    12:47 Book = Libro or Aklat in Tagalog;
    14:15 Decide = Desisyon or Pasya in Tagalog.
    Watching from Bulacan.

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ventilador for us is the vent

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Stay tuned for a video of Spanish vs Tagalog vs Bisaya

    • @LoneWolf-oi4yx
      @LoneWolf-oi4yx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@SolLunaTVfan is paypay in bisaya.

    • @zbatevp-vlogs610
      @zbatevp-vlogs610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oro-Mata-Plata, again new generation is losing the Spanish because they're switching to English sometimes they even prefer English more than Tagalog or Bisaya... =)

    • @chaakazukin729
      @chaakazukin729 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zbatevp-vlogs610 so sad, I am bisaya and we count in spanish and tell the time in spanish as our local dialect. But it so sad that my my nephew and niece can't understand our local dialect when we count and tell the time, they only understand English when it comes to numbers.

  • @florenzryansotelo8552
    @florenzryansotelo8552 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ferdinand Magellan (1521), Ruy Lopez de Villalobos (1543), and Miguel Lopez de Legaspi (1565) all went first in Visayas before Legaspi was able to conquer Maynila (1570) in Luzon. It won’t be a surprise if various Bisaya languages, like Sugbuanon, have more Spanish and Mexican (esp. Aztec) loan words.

  • @epi_diet023
    @epi_diet023 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi Luna ,I was laughing because you ask this Filipina why Philippines have Spanish words and she said " I don't know " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @zbatevp-vlogs610
    @zbatevp-vlogs610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    She's definitely a new generation... we also call it Abanico actually... newer generation may have not been using it.
    Also, Sol & Luna, Bisaya is a hard and thick accent. When I say hard I meant too much emphasis are put into vowels which make it prone to pronouncing E and I as I and O and U as U. The correct spelling is Kadena but in bisaya it is usually pronounced as KADINA tagalog are concious of the difference between O and U then E and I so in tagalog it is read as it is written.
    Most people (dont hate me for this but it's a fact) most tagalog people would laugh at how Bisaya speak in tagalog because it it has a thick/hard accent on the other hand when a Tagalog tries to speak bisaya it's too weak, lacks the punch...
    I don't think people should really be laughing at accent because it is something that takes time to neutralize... For me I am both good in Bisaya and Tagalog I know when to punch a word and I known when to soften it. Basically I have both accents.

    • @Looking-legends
      @Looking-legends 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kahet sa panahong to wala pa ring pagkakaisa sa mga pilipino piling intitled ang ilan di naman lahat kahet sa pananalita may pagtatalo pa rin kung sino ang mas.

  • @glybagona1349
    @glybagona1349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here in Surigao del Sur (kamayo-bisaya) electric fan we say bentilador

  • @oneoftherandompersoninYT
    @oneoftherandompersoninYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bisaya has a lot of in common with Bahasa as well.

  • @rickysampan8578
    @rickysampan8578 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Here are some more bisaya words that are similar to Spanish :
    Amigo, Kambio, Otro, Basiyo, Kalabasa, laba, abre, sera, Plato, Asukar, kutsara, tinidor, baso, hulmigas, kabayo, Mas, pero, semilya, o, para, pan, posas, maestra, syudad, papel, gusto, mintras, dibuho, eskwela, pwede, iya, kada, solo, lugar, parte, tomar, trabaho

  • @JosephSolisAlcaydeAlberici
    @JosephSolisAlcaydeAlberici 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The MTB-MLE (mother tongue education) would have been successful in its implementation if the bridging language after Grade 3 was Spanish, not English.

  • @enixbluerain7213
    @enixbluerain7213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Electric Fan in Bisaya is Bintilador. Hand Fan is Paypay. To turn on is Andar. Arm is Bukton. Mother is Inahan.

    • @EricOrenciada
      @EricOrenciada 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pataka! Unsay bintilador, mostly tagalog may naga gamit ana, mostly mga bisaya "Electric Fan" man gihapon ang tawag, naunsa diay ka.

    • @enixbluerain7213
      @enixbluerain7213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EricOrenciada nasuko ka dong? Ayaw paglagot kay naay mga pulong nga gikan sa Tagalog nga gigamit pud sa Bisaya. Bisan ang pulong nga 'tulay' gigamit na sa Bisaya. Kang 'bintilador' gigamit na sa mga tiguwang nga Bisaya. Kahinumdum pako sa mga pulong nga gigamit sa akong lola ug lolo, bapor sa barko, espejo sa andyohos. Wa man siguro ka nakahibao nga ang pulong nga Binisaya nag evolve.

  • @dynamoaquinoang4588
    @dynamoaquinoang4588 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No in Cebuano is bintilador

  • @migueldesanagustin2296
    @migueldesanagustin2296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    11:30 mother in Bisaya is INAHAN
    13:50 decide in Bisaya is PAGHUKOM and or PAGDESISYON

  • @johnvincentsypiecco4740
    @johnvincentsypiecco4740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:01 Arm - Bokton in cebuano

  • @kierrodavid1755
    @kierrodavid1755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    English=Cebuano=Spanish
    Fan = Paypay = Abanico
    Employee = Impleyado/Kawani = Empleado
    Flour = Harina = Harina
    Arm = Bukton/Braso = Brazo
    Biscuit = Biskwit = Galleta
    Island = Pulo/Isla = Isla
    Chain = Kadina = Cadena
    Mother = Inahan = Madre
    Book = Libro = Libro
    Decide = Hukom/Desidir = Decide

  • @ninovillegas9837
    @ninovillegas9837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aprender éspañol es muy fácil y cébuano tambien ☺️

  • @juanadame126
    @juanadame126 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    in Bohol also a Visayan province the simple fan(used by hand) is paypay or abaniko..electric fan is bentilador b instead of v..

  • @davidsanz1423
    @davidsanz1423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She’s new gen Cebuano.. you will have to speak someone born in the 80s.
    KUHA in both Tagalo and Cebuano came from the verb COGER but in the subjuntive form COJA.
    Mag kuha og pan sa lamisa (mesa).

  • @chaakazukin729
    @chaakazukin729 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fan is Abanico in Ilonggo too (hand fan)

  • @Starella04
    @Starella04 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's hard to think the bisaya or tagalog because we sometimes use English in saying those words in daily conversation, Sol. 😁

  • @jandivillanueva4227
    @jandivillanueva4227 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Electric fan in visaya is bentilador. Hindi fan

    • @mangtas_gamer
      @mangtas_gamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Electric fan in bisaya is electric fan, hindi bentilador.

  • @KhemMorante_123
    @KhemMorante_123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Emprende fan, to my dialect was abrehe

  • @ManhuaAddict-hf6ke
    @ManhuaAddict-hf6ke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the Interaction. More please

  • @shemfandida8955
    @shemfandida8955 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Naglisod man ug bisaya oie.

  • @MADesigns_
    @MADesigns_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I went to Bohol recently and tried to learn Bisaya, I also was amazed with all the Spanish words. I wasn’t surprised tho cause I knew there are more Spanish loan words in Bisaya than Tagalog

  • @lupinlazarus
    @lupinlazarus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bisdak represent! ❤❤❤

  • @123merven
    @123merven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chavacano pls

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here th-cam.com/video/a_CXF97oQJY/w-d-xo.html

    • @vin9649
      @vin9649 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you try Waray and Spanish

  • @k2dbeats
    @k2dbeats 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you interviewed the person

  • @planet_telex26
    @planet_telex26 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the older generation like the lolas and lolos also called it abanico

  • @amadosantiago-sf6ko
    @amadosantiago-sf6ko 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Tagalog abanico is abaniko and an electric fan is bentilador

  • @sandysepulveda4317
    @sandysepulveda4317 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cebuano------- Spanish
    Corner. Esquina
    Newspaper. Periodico
    Horse. Caballo
    Cow. Vaca

  • @Dark_eVader
    @Dark_eVader 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now I understand why some one would tell me in chat "taas" instead of "mahaba". They were using their Visayan version. BTW, I'm surprised you changed my name in the shoutouts.

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we must hahaha

  • @jandivillanueva4227
    @jandivillanueva4227 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arm in visaya bukton ... Hand- kamot

  • @mangtas_gamer
    @mangtas_gamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paypay in bisaya

  • @jaypeedupal-ag8236
    @jaypeedupal-ag8236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yes i agree. more similar spanish words in cebu

  • @bernadetteoneill7014
    @bernadetteoneill7014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paypay in Cebuano Bisaya for FAN but ABANICO in Ilonggo in general.

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish I had an Ilonggo here in the house

  • @bassalbuera
    @bassalbuera 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spanish and Waray waray language in Samar has almost the closest similarities unlike any other language from the Philippines except from chavacano

  • @CypressC2j
    @CypressC2j 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Madre here in Philippines is
    NUN

  • @mangtas_gamer
    @mangtas_gamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arm is bukton or braso

  • @Starella04
    @Starella04 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    many Spanish words that we use for Tagalog and Bisaya. ^^

  • @George-ux6zz
    @George-ux6zz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I noticed some Mexican Spanish is a bit different from DR Spanish.

  • @Eliminator481
    @Eliminator481 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There would be more alot of spanish words if lahum/lawm na bisaya.

  • @epi_diet023
    @epi_diet023 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Antique we have more Spanish words I must say 😊😅😅.

  • @CypressC2j
    @CypressC2j 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Desidido-desisyon

  • @jazzyp5377
    @jazzyp5377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My lola used to call fan “abaniko”

  • @johnmascardo7047
    @johnmascardo7047 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great collab, she's astig.

  • @George-ux6zz
    @George-ux6zz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poquito in Mexico is a little

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      poquito refers to quantity, not to size

  • @mangtas_gamer
    @mangtas_gamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you really from cebu?

  • @GilbertBeltran-t2i
    @GilbertBeltran-t2i 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In ilonggo we have mientras,hasta, abre, yabe, botella, antes, antipara, dulce, claro, media, limpio, guapa, guapo.

  • @fortunatot.faustinoii394
    @fortunatot.faustinoii394 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chavacano is much more closer to spanish than bisaya though😅😊❤

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here's our video comparing Chavacano and Spanish th-cam.com/video/a_CXF97oQJY/w-d-xo.html

  • @zbatevp-vlogs610
    @zbatevp-vlogs610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oro--Plata-Mata, Gold, Silver but Mata means bad luck for us I don;t know if Mata is a Spanish word
    Sirado - Close

  • @mangtas_gamer
    @mangtas_gamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fan is paypay

  • @roalf
    @roalf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do my language next. Ilocano! 😄

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I will ask if there's an Ilocano here

  • @elmeratencio3690
    @elmeratencio3690 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arm in bisaya is kamot braso or bisig in tagalog

    • @simpleprudentideas6511
      @simpleprudentideas6511 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kamot is hand/s

    • @badlongon525
      @badlongon525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@simpleprudentideas6511 colloquially speaking we just say kamot but we point it to our arm if we mean arm. But otherwise, we just say kamot for hands or if we want to specifically say arms, we can say braso. Colloquial bisaya is not really strict. We have gestures to help us emphasize what we mean to say.

  • @exploit_123_Travel
    @exploit_123_Travel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ilonggo or hilgaynon having more Spanish words

  • @linelltagle4260
    @linelltagle4260 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is Luna

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She is in the FNC Mansion and I am in the House Of Collab.

  • @monkeytesttimeservice8210
    @monkeytesttimeservice8210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    abanico sa waray pamaypay sa tagalog

  • @authenticityisrare7144
    @authenticityisrare7144 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was funny 😅 but could have gotten more knowledgeable in visaya language lol

  • @chiiiken5031
    @chiiiken5031 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dako is big. Remember ken daks? Char 😂

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha omg I will never forget na!

  • @my.business
    @my.business 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *I was thinking she must be a comedian when she had that on her head*

  • @alaindelon611
    @alaindelon611 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Cebuano, it's also called Abanico not electric fan. Is your guest really Visayan ?

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's from Cebu

  • @jazzyp5377
    @jazzyp5377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bisaya interchanges the sound of “i” and “e”, “o” and “u”. I have a funny story, I have friend who was born here in Australia and she’s having problem with her passport because it doesn’t match her IDs and license because it was based on her birth certificate. Her name is Leticia but on her birth certificate and passport, it is spelt as Litecia because that is how her mum say her name! 😂 her mum is from Cebu.

  • @cantonchannel2073
    @cantonchannel2073 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @imprettyandyournot
    @imprettyandyournot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    interview older people they used more spanish words

  • @littleprince5955
    @littleprince5955 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tagalog and Bisaya has different pronunciations using the same words with the same meaning.

  • @leocabs3802
    @leocabs3802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Her Bisaya is not Accurate, some words are wrong like Decide= Disisyon Desidido=determined

  • @manuelemilioherediagonzale7380
    @manuelemilioherediagonzale7380 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jajaja she's so funny

  • @DarkAngelBright
    @DarkAngelBright 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @littleprince5955
    @littleprince5955 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mother in Tagalog is "Ina","Inay","Nanay",Mama not mom,its english version adopted by modern Filipinos already.Kadena is tagalog for chain and the "e" is pronounced as "eh" in Tagalog,in Bisaya,they pronounced the "e" as "ih".

  • @mangtas_gamer
    @mangtas_gamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Madre is nun

  • @cebuanoni
    @cebuanoni 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bugô ning bisayaa!

  • @migueldesanagustin2296
    @migueldesanagustin2296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bisaya has more spanish words than Tagalog.
    Example:
    Abre
    Ahos (ajo)
    Espeho (espejo)
    Barato
    Antyuhos (anteojos)

  • @kaboytilaptv038
    @kaboytilaptv038 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bisaya kaayog nawng pero di kabalo sa bisaya words peace ✌️

  • @MrDenzyo
    @MrDenzyo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think ilocano people is more Spanish borrow word like limpya,limpyo,andar,karro,orasyon,parada,pascua,cuaresma,cita,ambulansia,arado,aritos,barato,barbas,botones,birtud,botas,buelta,renta,espada,kampusanto,kapilia,kueba,kutis,kurba,munisipio,kalma,pirma,salbabida,semana,kalidad,bakuna,bendesion,delicado,grasia,konsiensia,apelyido,sandia,bulsa,kansonsilyo,arina,bentilador,braso,isla,gareta,kadena,madre,

  • @ElMaestroBen
    @ElMaestroBen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ¿Prende el abanico? It's not better to say in Spanish Enciende el abanico.
    En español nosotros usamos el verbo prender pero eso suena a encender, como si usáramos un fósforo para encender el abanico 😂😂😂

    • @SolLunaTV
      @SolLunaTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      encender es ponerlo en llamas.

    • @ElMaestroBen
      @ElMaestroBen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SolLunaTV Jajajajaja ¿Ve que todo tiene que ver con la denotación y connotación?
      Lo que quise decir es que el significado primario de verbo prender es español es asir, agarrar, sujetar algo y luego secundariamente lo usamos como sinónimo del verbo encender, pero en realidad prender tiene una connotación de “encender una llamarada”. Así, encender es primariamente usado para encender una llama con un mínimo y que medie un elemento combustible de por medio (como una chispa, por ejemplo) y de ahí que aplique más a encender un auto, un abanico, una estufa de gas, etc, aunque usemos alternativamente prender y encender como sinónimos en los mismos casos.
      Como nota cultural le comento que en mi país en la actualidad se utiliza el verbo prender para indicar que alguien dijo algo y otra persona “le cayó en plancha” para debatirle y callarle la boca. Por ejemplo, un hombre habló mal de una mujer, entonces la hermana de la chica salió en su defensa y “prendió” al tipo o le dio su “prendida” por liso y atrevido. Otro ejemplo, estamos en campaña electoral y una persona viene a mi casa a presentar a su candidato, entonces cuando alguien de mi familia escucha las propuestas y promesas, sabiendo que el candidato es un corrupto y mentiroso, “le cae” y le da su prendida y “le da para aquí y para llevar”.
      La denotación y connotación en Latinoamérica es terrible y solo para analizar pongo por ejemplo el verbo coger, que significa tomar algo, pero que tiene una interpretación hasta en lo sexual (connotación) dependiendo de en que país se utilice. Denotación versus connotación.

  • @CristinaArias-m9m
    @CristinaArias-m9m 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Braso

  • @daybyday22
    @daybyday22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The words that you guys are comparing IMO are a bit bland. As a person who lived in Visayas and Mindanao, here are some actual Spanish loan words in Bisaya, that Tagalog people mostly don't/just often use, and I have also heard used mostly by the elders and not often by my generation:
    Spanish = Bisaya
    aburrido: bored = aburido: hot-headed
    velar: vigil = bilar: vigil (usually use this word to say that someone didn't sleep in general-- with or without religious intention-- like a student who's cramming)
    abusar: abuse = abusar: abuse (not physically abused, but situation-wise; like abusing a good opportunity or abusing the internet)
    vidrio: glass = bildo: glass
    aguanta: endure = agwanta: endure
    botella: bottle = botelya: bottle
    almohada: pillow = almuhada: uterus (I think I only hear this a few times from old aunties at the church, other than that not so much)
    exacto: exact = insakto: exact/ly
    amor: love = amor: fondness
    guia: to guide = giya: to guide
    anteojos/antiparra: eyeglasses = anteyohos/antipara: eyeglasses (we pronounce it as 'an-chu-hos', the spelling was like this when I searched it up)
    dejado: untidy, unorganized = dehado: underdog (use in context of someone who is 'expected to lose', like in a game where your opponent are 2x stronger)
    azucar: sugar = asukar: sugar
    calentura: fever = kalentura: fever (commonly used in Mindanao, idk about the other islands but def not used in Cebu & Bohol)
    almíbar: syrup = arnibal: syrup
    gafas: cotton =. gapas: cotton
    alegre: lively = alegre: lively/fun
    aceite: oil = asite: motor oil (the black oil one that goes into cars?)
    despachar: dispatch = despatsar: dispatch (I only hear this in the news where Police are 'dispatched')
    atrevido: insolent = atribido/a: meddlesome (hear this from moms a lot when they scold their children)
    desmayar: disappointed/depress = dismayar: disappointed/depress
    arretes: earrings = aretes: earrings
    tomar: to take = tumar: to take(medication)
    tocar: play = tukar: play(music)
    guapa: beautiful = gwapa: beautiful (I had to state this, cause although tagalogs use gwapo, they don't use gwapa but instead maganda)
    Honestly, there's a lot and these are only as far as I know. Bisaya is a language, most definitely. But since everyone is far apart, Bisaya has different dialects; like Cebuano, Waray, Hiligaynon etc. So there might definitely be more than this list.

    • @kierrodavid1755
      @kierrodavid1755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bisaya or Visayan is what you call a group of languages spoken in the Visayas region mainly Cebuano, Hiligaynon and Waray-Waray. These 3 are not dialects but languages in their own right.

    • @daybyday22
      @daybyday22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kierrodavid1755 yeah see I agree with you that they are languages in their own right, but when I asked a historian about that last year they said that Binisaya is the umbrella term for all the languages that are spoken in Visayas and a huge chunk of Mindanao. And those 3 are somewhat like the pillars of dialects that make-up the Bisaya language, and any dialect spoken from other regions are just based from any of those pillars.
      I kinda get it since it makes things easier, to just say "Oh I speak bisaya". But then again, like "What kind of bisaya?". Honestly his words, those are the things that I remembered from that lecture.

    • @kennethjamesyumang2473
      @kennethjamesyumang2473 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kierrodavid1755 Yes, you are correct. Examples of the dialects of the language Tagalog are Tagalog-Bataan, Tagalog-Batangas, Tagalog-Lubang, Tagalog-Manila, Tagalog-Puray while the dialects of the language Cebuano are Cebuano-Cebu, Cebuano-Bohol, Cebuano-Negros, Cebuano-Leyte, Cebuano-Davao, and Cebuano-Mindanao

    • @kierrodavid1755
      @kierrodavid1755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daybyday22 The reason why you cannot say Bisaya is a "separate” language and the rest are mere dialects because the Visayas region is very diverse majority will either speak the 3 main Visayan languages namely Cebuano, Hiligaynon and Waray2x. Bisaya or Visayan is an umbrella term to refer to all languages and people that make up the Visayan archipelago. So when you say Bisaya language, what are you referring to? okay, let's presume that Bisaya language is Cebuano (which majority actually thinks and believes) so does it mean that its dialects would be cebuano (metro cebu & province), hiligaynon (western visayas) and waray2x (eastern visayas)? I don't think so bec definitely Hiligaynon and Waray2x speakers would not agree to the idea that their languages will become dialects of the bisaya language base in cebuano. Also, bear in mind that we you say dialect it means it came from a "mother language" so it means they are mutually intelligible but when you say language, it means they're not mutually intelligible and so in this case, Cebuano, Hiligaynon and Waray2x are not mutually intelligible from each other that's why they are considered languages in their own right. This thing is kinda similar to how tagalog became the basis of creating the "Filipino language".

    • @matakasingarong7767
      @matakasingarong7767 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As I observe in real life situation, debatable tong issue na toh... It's depends on which regions are you from. Personally when I'm in Luzon or NCR.. People there(Tagalog, Ilocano, bicolano) would think of bisaya as a visayan. Not a person speaking Cebuano. Thats why maybe in the movies bisaya is portrayed by a character speaking in Cebuano, Hiligaynon mix. But when I'm in Cebu and Negros-people there would refer it as a bisaya-cebuano speaking person bcoz if you speak Hiligaynon they would refer you as a Ilonggo. Same also in mindanao. No one in mindanao even in Bangsamoro region would refer you bisaya if you are speaking Hiligaynon or Waray. So as for me it varies if which region ur into. But this is so confusing if you are not seeing these pattern. As for us mindanaoans who can mostly speak bisaya-binisaya we can have a conversation wid any bisaya-cebuano speakers and this seperates wid Hiligaynon and Waray.