Quick question about maps. Do the maps fit the tiers. Like for instance is Moscow/Stalingrad teirs 1-3 and Berlin teirs 4-5? Or are the maps just randomly assigned?
@@HeyQuadro Do minor factions have their own "preferred" map sets? I've already encountered Brits in Pacific, but I wonder if my Italian flamethrower squad (these flamethrowers are tier 5 for some reason) will make me defend Berlin.
@@olekzajac5948 Yes, along with the prototype weapons and vehicles that also appear in places they never were in reality, just like pre-merge Enlisted.
This update is so funny. Last night myself and three other max tier German players queued together and got into a tier 3 Stalingrad match where we absolutely waxed the enemy team.
I think the current BR system is honestly very bad, BR 1 and 4 are just therr to be ignored in favor of 2 and 5 as soon as players can and even in those BRs there is a meta that everyone will end up running very soon. BR 3 is tough on the one hand I dont want to touch it cause going up against BR 5 is nuts on the other hand it is so abusble as you can just quit all games against BR 4 and 5 and stomp BR 1 and 2 players. Overall I think this needs a lot of work to be good and I hope they work on it fast.
@@akooma3694 only that high tier also has accurate weapons and tanks, there is no definitive historical br the historical weapons are sprrad althroughout the brs
It’s weird that now I used my tier V gears, I didn’t get into any single Berlin map, all of them are Normandy and the entire game is CHAOS, every single player using the high power gun, and the allied tank is no way to penetrate the King tiger H unless they use the plane and explosive….map filled with King tiger😂😂
research is the exact same as before except you don't have to research the same gun multiple times in different campaigns. So technically it is faster.
The simple fact that you cannot choose which map you play is so offputting to me. Coupled with the fact that the tier system means that you might play some units in theatres they never fought in is very immersion breaking. I will give it a few days/weeks but this might be the end of Enlisted for me.
@@HeyQuadro Then why not have a preferred campaign system without the ability to choose sides(6 queues). At least then we can still have our squads in order that can be managed easier. Campaigns chosen by Battle Rating is too limiting and players will soon become bored with it, and you can guarantee experienced players will be equipping low tier weapons to farm points by fighting against noobs.
@@nonpatriot8863 veteran players playing vs new players is an always existing issue in any game ever made. Unless youre advocating for SBMM its impossible to solve
@@HeyQuadro Good luck playing in the future then with most of the player base gone if they continue down this path. All they had to do was take away players ability to choose sides in each campaign and implement a preferred campaign system keeping the squads separated and manageable and maybe just a two - tier BR system. P.S. Is it possible to equip premium squads with low tier weapons for that extra bit of point farming.
Am I the only one who doesn't care about battle ratings until I pick tanks? I can get kills with bolt actions no problem and I'm still using them in tier V.
This update has reignited my love for the madsen. At its tier it feels more effective than the DP and DT and low br is so much fun atm. I think 5 different br queues with +-1 would be better, but maybe there aren't enough players for that.
@@EclipseZer0 I guess, but what would be nice with the +-1 is if it would only put players of one tier difference in a match if there weren't enough players of the required tier to fill it.
My brother and I were using all tier 3 so we can play in tier 3 maps and have a good time. So glad the game decided to put us in tier 5 to get absolutely destroyed by top tier tanks and planes
I think it'll get polished out but right now is rough, tech tree and perks are amazing, battle rating is a bit rough, T5 on US lost almost every game yesterday and had a lot of teammates report similar just steamrolled games by Ger
@@HeyQuadro hm idk I'm not doing bad and my teams aren't anything too bad so far but still today every game is German steam roll at t5, and all of the t2 games are just all grenade launcher spam 🤣 still enjoying but has been a slugfest on me and most of my teammates experiences
The matchmaking is still a huge mess though. I played multiple battles yesterday at tier 1. Yes everything was tier 1, no i did not leave a high tier gear in the lineup. And i was still put up against people who had tier 5. Very balanced. I see a lot of people complaining about this in the forums as well
Same dude I ran a tier 2 only and somehow got up against a PZ-4-J which is tier 4 tank and as you might guess my entire lobby got steamrolled and I only got 15 kills
@@Jerome_05 I just checked. The PZ IV J is listed underneath tier 4, but it's actual battlerating is tier 3. Same situation as the Sherman 105. So you can face a PZ IV J in tier 1/2 battles as well
There is a bug in the current BR match making quite rare (about 1 in 100), you could still get match into a BR V match even if ALL of your weapon are tier 2. The system may errorly match you with a BR3 up tier.
I think it wasn't a bug but intertion, i also have the same experience being uptier to 5 when playing tier 2, but i also noticed both team will have a tier 5 player with the rest are tier 2. So if your only tier 5 guy is a pro he would carry that game very hard, potentially wiping out their whole team by himself. Otherwise...Good luck.
I’m getting kinda confused by the weird progression that I’ve been handed in my German tech tree (because I had reached level 39 in Normandy). Now, about 1/2 of the German weapons and vehicles are unlocked for me, which is fine, except it would seem that I literally can’t research any of the higher BR stuff until I research the lower BR things that come before. I fully researched the Tiger 2, only for me to hit the purchase button and it say “must receive previous rewards first”. Are you telling me I have to research the like 7 lower BR tanks that I don’t have just to be allowed to get the tiger 2? This is going to be the case for several weapons and planes too…. I’m literally going to have to spend like 40+ hours grinding the German tech tree, only to not even use 90% of what I’ve researched.
Chucked together a Tier 1 Allies load out and had a good selection of games last night, had no problem fighting people with Tier 2 gear (though no access to MGs is a bit rubbish) and got Normandy, Tunisia and Pacific maps My only real complaint is that I can't get the British squads I want any more, was only able to get 2/3s of the way through Tunisia and while there are still some British squads in the tech tree I have some strange numbers like 4 or 5 US Engineer squads but only 1 British. Some way to switch between US and British uniforms would be nice. I presume the Italians have the same issue.
Already saw Moroccans in Pacific and the Matilda plus the jumbo there too. At least the Australians used the Matilda. Rip enlisted. What a joke I swear the enlisted devs must have parents that are related or something 😂like c'mon I saw an IS-1 at BR II. Then you're going to have the AVS 36 (strictly early war weapon) is now a high tier weapon
When I go high BR4, I meet Tiger 2 in Stalingrad. When I go BR2, I meet Pz IV J and Puma in Stalingrad... Darkflow GG. First they recreate every building there and then poop on it.
I'm wondering if a gear and vehicle ponts system would work instead of the tier system. So you would have a set number of points to spend on weapons, grenades and explosives, side arms and vehicles. The better the gear and/or vehicle the more expensive it is in gear score/points. So you if you want to run a whole squad with automatic weapons, explosive packs and first aid it will cost alot more than say if they were armed with rifles.
Thank you for explaining this. I originally played this game in early 2021 (just over 200 matches according to my account stats) before feeling like it got stale and moved on. I redownloaded a few days ago interested in what they’ve added over the past 3 years and there were definitely some things that had been moved around & consolidated but it had been so long I couldn’t pin point what exactly. I’ve been playing random matches and just taking the team they give me and noticed when I would play Germans I’d almost always win or have a very close competitive loss & got stomped as the Soviets almost every time so i was thinking there was a balancing issue between those 2 factions but then I noticed my Soviet “BR” (I had no idea what that stood for a few minutes ago) was 4 and my German was 2. I watched your video and am now looking at my research tree and all my Soviet stuff is level 1 or 2 except this one random tank way down the line in tier 4, the T-34-85 (D-5T). I have no idea how I have this tier 4 tank but I put it in my lineup despite playing infantry 95% of the time bc they don’t let you make all your squads infantry and it was my best tank so it seemed like a no brainer. Now it seems having that tank un-used in my squad lineup has been hamstringing me when I play as the Soviets. If I had to guess, perhaps this tank was available earlier when I originally played the game than it is now? Other than that I have no guess as to how I have a tier 4 tank despite everything else I have being tiers 1 & 2.
Berlin scares me i was fucking around with the toz b and 3 squads of assaulters and i just have to say the fact you can have 3 squads of assaulters is just pain since it feels like after you kill 1 stg 4 more spawn The main reason for battle ratings is to make it so that berlin and other campaigns are more welcoming to new players to stop maxxed out german mains from stomping low tier with stgs but since rn its just tiers its still shit since stuff like the t 34 usually fights agaisnt king tigers which they have no shot of penning and the svt aswell usually fights agaisnt stgs which is just soooo damn dumb the tanks are fucked the infantry is fucked everything is just fucked and man dont get me wrong i like the merge but the battle rating system rn is just stupid i propose do it like warthunder and have numbers instead of tiers like forexample put the svt in like idk 5.0 and the stg at 7.0 so people can use the guns they want without threat of being stomped on.
@@Leopard-ej7wp even tho fortnight is actually hard as hell lol but I was just trolling but yea the battle ranking doesn't work I was full mp 17 against bolt actions and and in a tiger versus m41ls
@@spencersecrest6001 The tiger vs the bulldogs in warthunder is just because gaijin is just stupid they dont want to decompress battle ratings so tanks fight tanks that would just clobber them in every way but in enlisted i believe the br system would work better since the lowwer amount of bullshit to balance
I have a question i need help with. Im using only BR 1-2 troops but the matchmaking says BR of the battle is 1-3 and i sometimes end up in BR 3 lobbies despite not having a single BR 3 squad? How do i stay in BR2 while using only BR1-2 troops or is that not possible for some reason?
BR3 players will queue with all battle ratings. So it basically goes 1-2-3 3-4-5. So you kinda have to live with it unfortunately. I use BR3 Americans and if i get into the 1-2 lobbies it’s ridiculous. I go against bolt actions and I got garands, brownings, flamethrowers and noob tubes and it’s completely one sided. Hopefully br3 gets its own queue in the future but for now you can always get paired with br3 regardless of your br.
Are you able to auto equip your all your squads to set up for a different BR? Would be a massive pain if I had to individually change each soldiers weapon all the time if I wanted to have a balanced BR in different matches..
Tier 3 should never play against tier 5. Should be +1 -1 match making. Tier 3 tanks get hammered by tier 5 tanks. I’ve just been playing tier 2 to have a good time
I had fun playing last night too. I like the tech tree, though it is confusing I don’t nearly have what I want. I feel like they could do a simple update to bring back campaigns and add the English and Italian factions. They can just have the boxes to select and you will only get those maps (so in a way you choose your map) and go off tier of your units you want to play with. I think that would make the game perfect.
Honestly, they should just implement the same matchmaking system that Warthunder has (the +/- 1 system). Just had a game today where all of my team's vehicles (of which all were BR 1 vehicles) were just being annihilated by a single Panzer IV (I couldn't tell which variant, but it was definitely one of the Long 75 variants).
PLEASE HELP! I just unlocked the Tiger II but it wont let me purchase it. Saying, "Required research is needed to purchase". But i already have the tiger p.
It is very simple. Every weapon should gave some virtual value (e.g. compat points) And every squad has limited number of combat points. So, for example Kar89 costs 200 points, MP40 400, And FG42 700 points. And with the limit of 1500 points you can send to battle squad of 7 soldiers with Kar98, or just 2 soldiers with FG42.
I hate that I'm always getting stalingrad as a top tier German, it's so stupid to play king tigers in stalingrad, I just want to play Berlin but it's not giving me any
@@caramelstake9453 Sure, I'm running 1 engineer, 3 assault, 3 flamethrower and 2 Tiger 2 squads. Assaulters are running STG 44s and MP 717s. Everyone else is running FG 42/ FG 42 II. All my squads are BR V next to the unit name and I have 1 sniper with a Gewher 98 and 1 sniper with a G43 and I have 1 machine gunner with an MG 34 w/drum. I counted yesterday and I got 17 back to back BR 5 matches in Berlin.
I think the tier system is good but It does have problems. Weapons should be assigned a weapon score instead of just tiers. So if you do decide to bring only 1 MP40 (tier 3 weapon) and just have tier 1-2 weapons for the rest of your guys you would be placed against others with the same power score. Though I’m not a game dev so this might be horrible for balancing as one player can bring just 1 STG with tier one weapons.
I just wanna know if the USSR paratroopers count at which tier because my soviets is only like tier 2 and 3 as i only grinded moscow and nothing else for soviets
This is a good explanation of how badly they broke the game. Like why have 5 tiers if there are really only 2 tiers? Why have people intentionally handicap their gear to play in T1 for example, if all that means is they will have to play against T2 and T3 gear? In those tiers those players equipped better gear for their tier. Makes zero sense. I’ve just been queuing up as T2 and deserting any match that has gear higher than T2. Just creates bot lobbies in the end. Every match I see at least half a dozen deserters.
Can everyone explain to me, currently i am playing in normandy using usa and now i am in battle rating 3. But why my enemy can use some of weapon and vehicles in battle rating 5. It’s supposed to be that enemy players have to be in battle rating 3 max to 4. But I still found enemy player that using tiger tank, which is in battle rating 5.
Two things about BR 3: They *say* BR 3 has equal chance of going up tier or down tier...this is not true. The majority of players play in the BR 5 range. This means you will be filling in those lobbies the majority of the time. Since there are more of them. Also, you mentioned how it would be important to bring certain BR 3 weapons with you in order to be effective/helpful in a BR 5 battle...Can't you see how that will be a problem for new players? It means that to use any BR 3 gear they will have to quickly unlock those first...if they even know what to unlock.. This system massively gate keeps new players and keeps them trapped in BR 2..as grinding through BR 3 will be a nightmare
You just need to get xp for the soldier. Then pick perks. They dont have the old system anymore. Its just exp based but you can spend silver to raise level
@@HLLTAF is this me problem or lvling up soldiers takes now 3 years? i did amazing three battles with a lot like a lot of xp and not a single soldier was even at half way to next lvl and lvling one soldier for 10 hours is shit
the br system already needs fixing, i try to keep my squads tier 3 so i can have a balanced experience while still being able to play with weapons other than bolt actions but then i get queued up fighting tier v's. next thing i know my panzer 4 is being put up against is-2's and 76 shermans.
important question (i think) did they tweaked exp gain for soldiers? because im a bit annoyed, i did three battles with 100-200 kills each, some of them were with one soldier killing 50 people and not one of them was even in half to next lvl, i dont feel like spending 10 hours to fully lvl one soldier
@@tikiboytank9586 fucking hell, it really feels now like you need to spend 10 hours grinding one soldier, its like much worse that grinding tech tree darkflow what the fuck
@@spencersecrest6001 hey salty boy i noticed your 5 different messages to me ,,get good'' sadly your argument is invalid because im already good in variety of games and closer to being real pro (even if thats almost impossible) than closer your mom and dad will ever be so back off
@@13radioactiv A tier 5 sniper in a Tier 1 match wouldn't be that bad honestly, if it was just one. An entire squad on the other hand would be bad. A tier 5 Tank on the other hand would be complete bs in a Tier 1 Match.
Well i just played my first match after the merge and fought a panther, a tiger and a panzer iv with the crusader . Another poor soul had the m13. i just hope that any issues regarding matchmaking will be fixed because historical accuracy ( which i really appreciate ) was abandoned in its sake
I feel like the BR system is very, very messed up at the moment. I used to play during OBT long ago and just recently came back to the game and I got only BR1 squads but I'm constantly matched with BR3 enemies+allies... which really sucks >_< Easily noticable that my BR1 tank spawns next to a BR3 tank. Also the weapons used by everyone else. Pretty discouraging to say the least. I feel pretty powerless quite often.
Its a really common complaint, and it was a pretty big issue back in OBT as well. I think theyll make BR3 its own queue once the playerbase stabilizes.
Am I missing something? I'm BR 1 and regularly go against/alongside people with tier 4 weapons. What is the point of br if it's just seal clubbing newbies with top tier (and p2w) weapons?
I really like this console players are eating good also it cut down wait times a lot instead of me waiting for a minute and 50 seconds not it’s 30-50 seconds and rarely get to or over a minute and the battle rating pretty great too over all it’s great for the game
Played a couple games at tier 1 with some buddies and both ended up being in normandy against tigers. Our team had no ground vehicles capable of fighting back. There is potential but games like that are rough right now
@@EvilMonkey403 Italy is tricky. It can have the P40 and some tank destroyers that punch hard. For the UK they can easily get a ton of high tier vehicles.
First off, should have never left campaigns and implemented an economic factor to prevent over use of experimental weapons. Second, since they were hell bent on turning this into War Thunder with Infantry, they should have never left the 10 BR construct and simply did a +1/-1 matching. This whole merge has been the evolution of making things worse and worse.
it can be good but atm its sometime as bad as it were, first match i went tier 1 and got put against tier 4, that wasnt cool , it was even worse, but another battle was pretty similiar in tier
@@spencersecrest6001 hey salty boy i noticed your 5 different messages to me ,,get good'' sadly your argument is invalid because im already good in variety of games and closer to being real pro (even if thats almost impossible) than closer your mom and dad will ever be so back off
battle rating dont work lol, im battle rating 2 (soviet) bcs of pps smg but then i meet panzer 4 J and panther, but then i bring t 34-85 dt then i meet the same panzer 4 H and panther the difference is all the enemy infantry are using stg and mg 42 while im here only with pps, so my theory battle rating is not that simple, its not about all BR 1 10v10 but its more like 10v10 (1 high BR, 4 midBR, and 6 low BR) and it change based on available player so you can be 10v10 and the only one low br while the rest of ur team and enemy have high BR so the BR adapt with the availble player
If you play tier 2 expect to play tier 3s pummeling you. If you play tier 3 expect to pummel tier 1 and 2s or get pummeled by tier 5s. This merge is hot garbage in every aspect.
Really funny to see Italian or British on Pacific war or Normandy or Russia or Berlin Edited:Oh yeah Japanese really had the big disadvantage now that merge is here. Becuz Allies had a lot of Arsenal they can use.
Yeah they get rid of up tiers and add some damn anti cheat maybe it will be more enjoyable. Lot of people complaining about fighting tiers above the one they setup. Lot of the people lured in by Dark Flows paid ad campaigns touting historical authenticity are pissed off and quitting as well. Hopefully this merger doesnt run off most of the games already small player base. Didnt help they pretty much removed any ability to choose what maps you want to play.
This whole Matchmaker change is garbage previously you can start a campaign and be put with people who are max level at the campaign now with this update I was hoping that would not happen but no every freaking game at Rank 3 I'm constantly against ranked 5 which is so unbalanced and unfair that the game is just not even worth playing it really should be +1/ -1 Matchmaker cuz there's no way in hell that a rank 3 Squad is going to stand a chance against people in Tiger 2s like I only have a M8 Scott battle rating of one has to face a tiger 2H in Panthers
They broke a great game for the sake of 30 seconds of matchmaking. My daily game to 0 interest. Sad. Undoubtedly the dumbest thing to ever happen to this game. It’s COD with a WW2 skin.
It wasn't just for 30 seconds of matchmaking. Campaign progression was getting more and more jank as the campaign's grew in number. There was also issues with matchmaking that everyone had to put on as high tiered weapons as possible. Now low tier builds are viable
@@brianterry8775 OK. so they broke the game for a small issue that only a few people cared about and now we're constantly thrown into campaign maps that a huge number of people don't want to play.
@@brianterry8775they did nothing but muddy, confuse the game. They did nothing new. It sucks. They could have done A LOT with other campaign additions for 1… all they did was shake their hands at the game so it’s slight more compatible with WT. you telling me the research tree is better now than before? For Enlisted?
Germany is my main army, but i cant seem to get in a battle with my army. I keep playing the BR 1 soviets, us, japan teams. But my BR 2/3/4 germany cant get any 😔
When I go high BR4, I meet Tiger 2 in Stalingrad. When I go BR2, I meet Pz IV J and Puma in Stalingrad. Can Darkflow just stop desecrating Stalingrad and let it be normal, without fantasy time travelling vehicles? FFS
I setup my gear for Tier 1 but get matched with Tier 3 😂. Matchmaking is broken. Having semi auto vs bolt action is unfair. Tier 1 tank can’t do anything against Tier 3 smh 🤦
they should base BR on the average battle rating of your equipment but also hard lock certain things like vehicle. So, one AVS in a lineup of mostly Mosins could keep you at BR2, but add an IS-2 and your BR goes way up because vehicles have the potential to be way more imbalanced than infantry weapons which are nerfed by virtue of being in the hands of a squishy meat man.
@@spencersecrest6001 the old matchmaking wasn’t perfect but was okay, the max I have is a few m1 garand and i land in with full teams of lg42 and stg and some nasty machine guns
@@Axel-gh6vj yea the matchmaking is horrible and broke I have autos and keep fighting bolt action squads I was just trolling about getting good just salty about the update I don't wanna seal club new players and the new system is confusing as ever
Honestly for me, BR 3 is a total nightmare to play in due to always facing BR 5 and not 1 or 2. I haven't had a single game with a BR 3 loadout where I've faced lower BR's. In this BR, I was facing Tiger 1's and 2's with a 75mm Sherman that had no hope of beating them, and my infantry with their M1A1 Thompsons and M1 Garands getting absolutely stomped by Germans with FG-42's and STG-44's. Also the fact that the matches now are 90% players may seem like a good thing but the game's AI is still too poor to handle that, so frequently at BR 3 or above, your entire squad of 7-9 can get wiped out by a single person with an Automatic weapon before you even get time to auto swap to one of them and have time to turn them to face the enemy. Also there's now situations that are absolutely unbalanced such as Tiger 2's on Normandy's D-Day maps being virtually unkillable even with 76mm Shermans if they choose to camp at the rear and use hills. A lot of balance work needs to be done, honestly, as well as significant improvements to the AI so they don't flip flop between terminators with perfect aim and almost useless where they don't react at all to one of their allies dying right next to them. The AI just doesn't have enough awareness in general, especially positional awareness, where entire AI squads will just cause a massive pileup at the objective and get taken out by a single player with a few explosives. They don't position themselves in trenches or other positions of cover, and always try to be on the objective even if it'd make more sense to be behind or ahead of it.
@@daniels474 That is true but it was rarely more than 2 or 3 players. Now I can be facing almost entire teams using them at the same time and it just gets unbearable. One of the effects of the merge is more players per match and they have roughly the same level of equipment so it is actually VERY easy to face 8 players all with BR 5 equipment while you've limited yourself to BR 3. Honestly it'd feel better if BR 3 players got into matches with soft limits on the amount of BR 5 players so it wasn't almost entire teams and had a healthier mix of BR 3 and 4 players with a small top group of BR 5. But then BR 5 would become a chokepoint in matchmaking.
@@daniels474 Eh not really. Being a BR 3 means almost 80% of the enemy team is going to be BR 5 currently. The game is just not fun currently. If I use my BR 5 gear then it's just the same old but with more players involved. The game is genuinely more fun if I set up a BR 2 squad set but it requires deliberately using weapons that may not feel good since BR 1-3 feels way more fun than BR 3-5. Also doesn't help that a typical historically accurate US Squad is a minimum of BR 3. To accomplish BR 2 you need mostly British weapons unless if you plan on having squads equipped almost entirely with Springfields which only really accurate for the US Marines, not the US Army, so historical accuracy is actively punished. The game now forces me to minmax a bit too much. I can push a BR 1 tank crew up to BR 5 just because of the SMG I pick for a single member, although I find this more of an issue with my BR 3 tank crews. I am essentially forced to always play to minmax rather than being able to mix and match weapons within units. I either have to give a squad entirely up to BR weapons or expect things to go badly. I can't, say, give part of a squad Sten MK2's and another part of it M1 Garands without bumping up my entire army to face STG-44's and FG-42's. It also means the US as a faction suffers severely while fighting Germany, since Germany just completely outclasses the US on equipment types. Germany has Assault Rifles, the US doesn't get any, the closest weapon being the M2 Carbine which is not a horrible weapon but it doesn't compete with the likes of the MkB-42, MP-44 or STG-44. Germany gets Heavy tanks such as the Tiger 1 and 2. The US gets the Sherman Jumbo with only the 75mm gun. The German's get a true bomber, best the US gets is the P-47 which is pretty good but it's hard to beat 6 bombs with multiple rear gunners with at least one having a 20mm. Germany gets a 20 round select fire rifle for silver. The US gets a very limited amount of them for Gold orders only. The real world advantage of those high tier weapons being very rare among German forces goes out the window due to how Enlisted works.
Quick question about maps. Do the maps fit the tiers. Like for instance is Moscow/Stalingrad teirs 1-3 and Berlin teirs 4-5? Or are the maps just randomly assigned?
Yes, the maps fit into the tiers! I shouldve mentioned that :). Tiers 1-3 have their own map pool, and Tiers 3-5 have their own pool!
@@HeyQuadro Do minor factions have their own "preferred" map sets? I've already encountered Brits in Pacific, but I wonder if my Italian flamethrower squad (these flamethrowers are tier 5 for some reason) will make me defend Berlin.
@@olekzajac5948 minor factions dont exist. its just "Allies".
@@HeyQuadro So Italian squads can fight in places they never fought in reality?
Great...
@@olekzajac5948 Yes, along with the prototype weapons and vehicles that also appear in places they never were in reality, just like pre-merge Enlisted.
This update is so funny. Last night myself and three other max tier German players queued together and got into a tier 3 Stalingrad match where we absolutely waxed the enemy team.
Tier 3 is a gamble, either pummel tier 2s or tier 1s or get pummeled by tier 4s and 5s. This update is so bad
That means the people who play tier 3 is unlucky to meet you😅
Yea it’s absolutely broken. They fucked the game for the time being unfortunately
this has waaaaaay more to do with you queueing with a 4 stack than it does the matchmaker lol
My tier 2 Japan game where I got stomped by Tier 3 Americans was solo. Theres absolutely no reason to play anything else other than max tier
I think the current BR system is honestly very bad, BR 1 and 4 are just therr to be ignored in favor of 2 and 5 as soon as players can and even in those BRs there is a meta that everyone will end up running very soon. BR 3 is tough on the one hand I dont want to touch it cause going up against BR 5 is nuts on the other hand it is so abusble as you can just quit all games against BR 4 and 5 and stomp BR 1 and 2 players. Overall I think this needs a lot of work to be good and I hope they work on it fast.
imagine i was put in tier 1 against tier 4, that was ,,fun''
actually good take. everything you said is 100% valid criticism
Also MKB42, MKB42 sniper and FG42 will be useless because you have STG44, STG44 sniper and FG42II
I'll play the historically accurate BR. Mosins, kar, garand, enfield. High tier looks cringe.
@@akooma3694 only that high tier also has accurate weapons and tanks, there is no definitive historical br the historical weapons are sprrad althroughout the brs
It’s weird that now I used my tier V gears, I didn’t get into any single Berlin map, all of them are Normandy and the entire game is CHAOS, every single player using the high power gun, and the allied tank is no way to penetrate the King tiger H unless they use the plane and explosive….map filled with King tiger😂😂
Americans should get the 90mm M36 and M36B1 Jackson along with the Pershing and Super Pershing.
@@maineiacmanAmericans should get good at the game and stick a tampon in it 😂
I just wish research was a bit faster
research is the exact same as before except you don't have to research the same gun multiple times in different campaigns. So technically it is faster.
@@RusskiBlusskicould be faster still
i like overdid one research so they didnt give me single point to the research and i did 33k in one match where i needed 8k, this game
new update same problems lol
The simple fact that you cannot choose which map you play is so offputting to me. Coupled with the fact that the tier system means that you might play some units in theatres they never fought in is very immersion breaking. I will give it a few days/weeks but this might be the end of Enlisted for me.
Ouch! Have you tried HLL?
I don't like the way they did the battle rating 3, they should've done 4 groups:
-1 and 2
-2 and 3
-3 and 4
-4 and 5
That'd be better at least imho
The problem with this is that its splitting the playerbase into 16 queues, which is exactly what the merge is trying to fix
@@HeyQuadro Then why not have a preferred campaign system without the ability to choose sides(6 queues). At least then we can still have our squads in order that can be managed easier.
Campaigns chosen by Battle Rating is too limiting and players will soon become bored with it, and you can guarantee experienced players will be equipping low tier weapons to farm points by fighting against noobs.
@@nonpatriot8863 veteran players playing vs new players is an always existing issue in any game ever made. Unless youre advocating for SBMM its impossible to solve
@@HeyQuadro Good luck playing in the future then with most of the player base gone if they continue down this path. All they had to do was take away players ability to choose sides in each campaign and implement a preferred campaign system keeping the squads separated and manageable and maybe just a two - tier BR system.
P.S. Is it possible to equip premium squads with low tier weapons for that extra bit of point farming.
Am I the only one who doesn't care about battle ratings until I pick tanks? I can get kills with bolt actions no problem and I'm still using them in tier V.
so basically they didn't fix neither online nor balance problem. what a brilliant gamedesign
and broke everything else in the process.
It's super balanced now stop spreading fake news
@@spencersecrest6001 enjoy your super balanced boring call of doody
This update has reignited my love for the madsen. At its tier it feels more effective than the DP and DT and low br is so much fun atm. I think 5 different br queues with +-1 would be better, but maybe there aren't enough players for that.
That would actually be 4 queues: BR1-2, BR2-3, BR3-4 and BR4-5.
@@EclipseZer0 I guess, but what would be nice with the +-1 is if it would only put players of one tier difference in a match if there weren't enough players of the required tier to fill it.
My brother and I were using all tier 3 so we can play in tier 3 maps and have a good time. So glad the game decided to put us in tier 5 to get absolutely destroyed by top tier tanks and planes
Yup thanks for the xp
Yup thanks for the xp
I think it'll get polished out but right now is rough, tech tree and perks are amazing, battle rating is a bit rough, T5 on US lost almost every game yesterday and had a lot of teammates report similar just steamrolled games by Ger
idk im sitting at 75% win rate with USF, mostly all in high tier
@@HeyQuadro hm idk I'm not doing bad and my teams aren't anything too bad so far but still today every game is German steam roll at t5, and all of the t2 games are just all grenade launcher spam 🤣 still enjoying but has been a slugfest on me and most of my teammates experiences
@@chxmpgnexbecause your bad at the game 😅 get good stop crying 😢
@@spencersecrest6001 🤣🤣🤣 it's feedback on my games since change, I'm top of leaderboard every game we chilling brotha but keep talking 👍🏻
@@chxmpgnex don't matter if your on top if you don't get the dub
The matchmaking is still a huge mess though. I played multiple battles yesterday at tier 1. Yes everything was tier 1, no i did not leave a high tier gear in the lineup. And i was still put up against people who had tier 5. Very balanced. I see a lot of people complaining about this in the forums as well
Stop being trash at the game won't mattter
Same dude I ran a tier 2 only and somehow got up against a PZ-4-J which is tier 4 tank and as you might guess my entire lobby got steamrolled and I only got 15 kills
@@Jerome_05 the Pz IV J is the only tier 3 pz IV. Atleast last that i checked. So that is possible with a tier 1/2 lineup
@@test_dude same tier as the t34-85-D5 it cant be tier 3
@@Jerome_05 I just checked. The PZ IV J is listed underneath tier 4, but it's actual battlerating is tier 3. Same situation as the Sherman 105. So you can face a PZ IV J in tier 1/2 battles as well
wait so if i have 3 squads all decked with kar98ks
but my vehicle is a bf109G10 what
am i gonna see a bunch of soviets with as44s?
Yep. Just like if you took a leopard with pz4s
There is a bug in the current BR match making quite rare (about 1 in 100), you could still get match into a BR V match even if ALL of your weapon are tier 2. The system may errorly match you with a BR3 up tier.
Uptiered like that in warthunder can only be achieved if you coop with somebody and they bring high br vehicles
I think it wasn't a bug but intertion, i also have the same experience being uptier to 5 when playing tier 2, but i also noticed both team will have a tier 5 player with the rest are tier 2. So if your only tier 5 guy is a pro he would carry that game very hard, potentially wiping out their whole team by himself. Otherwise...Good luck.
I’m getting kinda confused by the weird progression that I’ve been handed in my German tech tree (because I had reached level 39 in Normandy). Now, about 1/2 of the German weapons and vehicles are unlocked for me, which is fine, except it would seem that I literally can’t research any of the higher BR stuff until I research the lower BR things that come before. I fully researched the Tiger 2, only for me to hit the purchase button and it say “must receive previous rewards first”. Are you telling me I have to research the like 7 lower BR tanks that I don’t have just to be allowed to get the tiger 2? This is going to be the case for several weapons and planes too….
I’m literally going to have to spend like 40+ hours grinding the German tech tree, only to not even use 90% of what I’ve researched.
Ha yes😂
the problem with the current system is battling Tier 3 with a tier 1 build is frustrating i wish it was a plus 1 or minus 1 system for BR
Chucked together a Tier 1 Allies load out and had a good selection of games last night, had no problem fighting people with Tier 2 gear (though no access to MGs is a bit rubbish) and got Normandy, Tunisia and Pacific maps
My only real complaint is that I can't get the British squads I want any more, was only able to get 2/3s of the way through Tunisia and while there are still some British squads in the tech tree I have some strange numbers like 4 or 5 US Engineer squads but only 1 British. Some way to switch between US and British uniforms would be nice.
I presume the Italians have the same issue.
Thanks for the video! Enjoyed your stream on Mergeday
Already saw Moroccans in Pacific and the Matilda plus the jumbo there too. At least the Australians used the Matilda. Rip enlisted. What a joke I swear the enlisted devs must have parents that are related or something 😂like c'mon I saw an IS-1 at BR II. Then you're going to have the AVS 36 (strictly early war weapon) is now a high tier weapon
It's gone the way of war thunder.
At least when you want to play with bolt actions you don't have to deal with flamethrower drum mag smg spam
i mean sure thats not historically accurate but neither is some stupid draftee becoming a literal god because his commander died
When I go high BR4, I meet Tiger 2 in Stalingrad. When I go BR2, I meet Pz IV J and Puma in Stalingrad... Darkflow GG.
First they recreate every building there and then poop on it.
It's not that big of a deal. The game still feels authentic and that's what counts
@@brianterry8775 yes Moroccans in the Pacific theater very authentic
"down in the dumps"
is crazy
I'm wondering if a gear and vehicle ponts system would work instead of the tier system. So you would have a set number of points to spend on weapons, grenades and explosives, side arms and vehicles. The better the gear and/or vehicle the more expensive it is in gear score/points. So you if you want to run a whole squad with automatic weapons, explosive packs and first aid it will cost alot more than say if they were armed with rifles.
That's sound absolutely trash 😂
Just play the game and buy some tampons
After my 4th video of watching you explain stuff, yeah I'll subscribe
Thank you for explaining this. I originally played this game in early 2021 (just over 200 matches according to my account stats) before feeling like it got stale and moved on. I redownloaded a few days ago interested in what they’ve added over the past 3 years and there were definitely some things that had been moved around & consolidated but it had been so long I couldn’t pin point what exactly.
I’ve been playing random matches and just taking the team they give me and noticed when I would play Germans I’d almost always win or have a very close competitive loss & got stomped as the Soviets almost every time so i was thinking there was a balancing issue between those 2 factions but then I noticed my Soviet “BR” (I had no idea what that stood for a few minutes ago) was 4 and my German was 2. I watched your video and am now looking at my research tree and all my Soviet stuff is level 1 or 2 except this one random tank way down the line in tier 4, the T-34-85 (D-5T). I have no idea how I have this tier 4 tank but I put it in my lineup despite playing infantry 95% of the time bc they don’t let you make all your squads infantry and it was my best tank so it seemed like a no brainer. Now it seems having that tank un-used in my squad lineup has been hamstringing me when I play as the Soviets.
If I had to guess, perhaps this tank was available earlier when I originally played the game than it is now? Other than that I have no guess as to how I have a tier 4 tank despite everything else I have being tiers 1 & 2.
Berlin scares me i was fucking around with the toz b and 3 squads of assaulters and i just have to say the fact you can have 3 squads of assaulters is just pain since it feels like after you kill 1 stg 4 more spawn The main reason for battle ratings is to make it so that berlin and other campaigns are more welcoming to new players to stop maxxed out german mains from stomping low tier with stgs but since rn its just tiers its still shit since stuff like the t 34 usually fights agaisnt king tigers which they have no shot of penning and the svt aswell usually fights agaisnt stgs which is just soooo damn dumb the tanks are fucked the infantry is fucked everything is just fucked and man dont get me wrong i like the merge but the battle rating system rn is just stupid i propose do it like warthunder and have numbers instead of tiers like forexample put the svt in like idk 5.0 and the stg at 7.0 so people can use the guns they want without threat of being stomped on.
Stop crying and get some skill or go play fortnight
@@spencersecrest6001 i cant argue with that
@@Leopard-ej7wp even tho fortnight is actually hard as hell lol but I was just trolling but yea the battle ranking doesn't work I was full mp 17 against bolt actions and and in a tiger versus m41ls
@@spencersecrest6001 The tiger vs the bulldogs in warthunder is just because gaijin is just stupid they dont want to decompress battle ratings so tanks fight tanks that would just clobber them in every way but in enlisted i believe the br system would work better since the lowwer amount of bullshit to balance
@@Leopard-ej7wp No one can! 🤣
This garbage update should be reverted asap before the game ultimately dies before it even officially releases, lol
It's great lots of fun
My Tiger 2 kills alot Stuarts and Pacific Kebab Truck in Normandy.
I have a question i need help with. Im using only BR 1-2 troops but the matchmaking says BR of the battle is 1-3 and i sometimes end up in BR 3 lobbies despite not having a single BR 3 squad? How do i stay in BR2 while using only BR1-2 troops or is that not possible for some reason?
BR3 players will queue with all battle ratings. So it basically goes 1-2-3 3-4-5. So you kinda have to live with it unfortunately. I use BR3 Americans and if i get into the 1-2 lobbies it’s ridiculous. I go against bolt actions and I got garands, brownings, flamethrowers and noob tubes and it’s completely one sided. Hopefully br3 gets its own queue in the future but for now you can always get paired with br3 regardless of your br.
Are you able to auto equip your all your squads to set up for a different BR? Would be a massive pain if I had to individually change each soldiers weapon all the time if I wanted to have a balanced BR in different matches..
I like this direction. Makes a lot of vehicles and weapons viable.
Do you think there's ever going to be the option to choose the battle location again?
Maybe in the future! They need to stabilize the playerbase first
@@HeyQuadro thanks!
Tier 3 should never play against tier 5. Should be +1 -1 match making. Tier 3 tanks get hammered by tier 5 tanks. I’ve just been playing tier 2 to have a good time
Get good or cope
I had fun playing last night too. I like the tech tree, though it is confusing I don’t nearly have what I want. I feel like they could do a simple update to bring back campaigns and add the English and Italian factions. They can just have the boxes to select and you will only get those maps (so in a way you choose your map) and go off tier of your units you want to play with. I think that would make the game perfect.
Yes, I miss playing as British, but just started GER
Something got changed? I put all tier 3 and put in 1-3 bracket not 1-2
Honestly, they should just implement the same matchmaking system that Warthunder has (the +/- 1 system). Just had a game today where all of my team's vehicles (of which all were BR 1 vehicles) were just being annihilated by a single Panzer IV (I couldn't tell which variant, but it was definitely one of the Long 75 variants).
1 question. I love to play as soviets but everytime I queue as them I never get a moscow map. Is there anyway I can filter the maps I get?
PLEASE HELP! I just unlocked the Tiger II but it wont let me purchase it. Saying, "Required research is needed to purchase". But i already have the tiger p.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's asking you to unlock every single vehicle leading up to it including all Tunisia, Normandy and stalingrad tanks
@@mathiasrryba please no, that would be total BS I have the tiger and all panthers too.
@@nickrael5693 you can use them but you couldn't buy them if you didn't have them already
@@mathiasrryba but I do have then already
You have to unlock everything within that specific line of progression.
It is very simple. Every weapon should gave some virtual value (e.g. compat points)
And every squad has limited number of combat points.
So, for example Kar89 costs 200 points, MP40 400, And FG42 700 points.
And with the limit of 1500 points you can send to battle squad of 7 soldiers with Kar98, or just 2 soldiers with FG42.
Or stop crying and just play the game
I'm just tired of being stuck with only a bolt action and everyone has artillery and machine guns
What tier is the dicker Max on? Cuz its vaible at all ratings cuz big gun go boom and it would be fun to boink shermans on d-day
Tier 4
@@legiox3719nice after all 105mm canon go boom can’t wait to face Sherman’s etc since it’s basically a m18 but better gun but worse momentum
So what difference does playing 1 and 2 make? Is there any case where one wouldnt want to put as many br 2 as possible?
I hate that I'm always getting stalingrad as a top tier German, it's so stupid to play king tigers in stalingrad, I just want to play Berlin but it's not giving me any
Agree,I also kept getting Normandy map and need to face Rocket spammer LOL
I keep getting Berlin as axis BR5
@@ShaneT.0331 i need your loadout pls so i can play at Berlin without getting smack by HVAR rocket
@@caramelstake9453
Sure, I'm running 1 engineer, 3 assault, 3 flamethrower and 2 Tiger 2 squads. Assaulters are running STG 44s and MP 717s. Everyone else is running FG 42/ FG 42 II. All my squads are BR V next to the unit name and I have 1 sniper with a Gewher 98 and 1 sniper with a G43 and I have 1 machine gunner with an MG 34 w/drum. I counted yesterday and I got 17 back to back BR 5 matches in Berlin.
@@ShaneT.0331 alr thx bro
I have to admit, I'm having fun for the most part. Taking out a Panther with a BA-11 is troll tier gaming.
So your telling me that if I have my br4 tank I got from crates, I’ll be put in br4 matches with my only weapons being bolt actions?
I think the tier system is good but It does have problems. Weapons should be assigned a weapon score instead of just tiers. So if you do decide to bring only 1 MP40 (tier 3 weapon) and just have tier 1-2 weapons for the rest of your guys you would be placed against others with the same power score.
Though I’m not a game dev so this might be horrible for balancing as one player can bring just 1 STG with tier one weapons.
Any idea on how high the chance is to be uptiered or lowtiered when in B3?
I just wanna know if the USSR paratroopers count at which tier because my soviets is only like tier 2 and 3 as i only grinded moscow and nothing else for soviets
This is a good explanation of how badly they broke the game. Like why have 5 tiers if there are really only 2 tiers? Why have people intentionally handicap their gear to play in T1 for example, if all that means is they will have to play against T2 and T3 gear? In those tiers those players equipped better gear for their tier. Makes zero sense. I’ve just been queuing up as T2 and deserting any match that has gear higher than T2. Just creates bot lobbies in the end. Every match I see at least half a dozen deserters.
On what BR paratropers queu up on
I think they just updated to show the units BR on the battle page, much more convenient
How can you have more squads without premium?
What happened to the 8th Panzer Battalion? Did they removed it?
Can everyone explain to me, currently i am playing in normandy using usa and now i am in battle rating 3. But why my enemy can use some of weapon and vehicles in battle rating 5. It’s supposed to be that enemy players have to be in battle rating 3 max to 4. But I still found enemy player that using tiger tank, which is in battle rating 5.
you should watch the video again, thats not how the system works
@@HeyQuadro do you mean i still get enemy player in battle rating 5 even thought i am still in battle rating 3
@@suryasuwono278 Yes.
@@HeyQuadro damm that sck man
Two things about BR 3:
They *say* BR 3 has equal chance of going up tier or down tier...this is not true. The majority of players play in the BR 5 range. This means you will be filling in those lobbies the majority of the time. Since there are more of them.
Also, you mentioned how it would be important to bring certain BR 3 weapons with you in order to be effective/helpful in a BR 5 battle...Can't you see how that will be a problem for new players? It means that to use any BR 3 gear they will have to quickly unlock those first...if they even know what to unlock..
This system massively gate keeps new players and keeps them trapped in BR 2..as grinding through BR 3 will be a nightmare
Good
How do I lvl up my character now? I was using bronze character tickets to increase the strength hp etc but now idk how to increase their point
You just need to get xp for the soldier. Then pick perks. They dont have the old system anymore. Its just exp based but you can spend silver to raise level
@@HLLTAF is this me problem or lvling up soldiers takes now 3 years? i did amazing three battles with a lot like a lot of xp and not a single soldier was even at half way to next lvl and lvling one soldier for 10 hours is shit
the br system already needs fixing, i try to keep my squads tier 3 so i can have a balanced experience while still being able to play with weapons other than bolt actions but then i get queued up fighting tier v's. next thing i know my panzer 4 is being put up against is-2's and 76 shermans.
Fake news get good
important question (i think) did they tweaked exp gain for soldiers? because im a bit annoyed, i did three battles with 100-200 kills each, some of them were with one soldier killing 50 people and not one of them was even in half to next lvl, i dont feel like spending 10 hours to fully lvl one soldier
yeah the experience game was nerfed big time with the new update
@@tikiboytank9586 fucking hell, it really feels now like you need to spend 10 hours grinding one soldier, its like much worse that grinding tech tree darkflow what the fuck
AFAIK total XP wasnt changed, its still soft capped at about 4 xp per second.
Soldier XP amounts idk. Ill ask the Helpers about it
@@HeyQuadroit really must have been changed, i refuse to belive before update few good games wouldnt give even half lvl for soldier
Skill issue 😂
Are bots reduced now? That was the main reason i stopped playing only a handful of real players.
yeah, its still unbalanced BUT, you have change of balance and real players
@@Volpeuszit's super balanced now get good borat
@@spencersecrest6001 hey salty boy i noticed your 5 different messages to me ,,get good'' sadly your argument is invalid because im already good in variety of games and closer to being real pro (even if thats almost impossible) than closer your mom and dad will ever be so back off
Whole merge seems really good, BUT I'm not playing until I understand the got damn sluggish spammy research tiers with all the 1000+ squads
I'm loving the merge. Currently making rank II, III, and V presets for each army.
So stupid that one weapon brings your whole tier up. That makes literally no sense. Lazy work
Its to prevent bringing extremely op guns or tanks into low teir wouldnt want a teir 5 sniper in a teir 1 match would be hell
@@13radioactiv A tier 5 sniper in a Tier 1 match wouldn't be that bad honestly, if it was just one. An entire squad on the other hand would be bad.
A tier 5 Tank on the other hand would be complete bs in a Tier 1 Match.
@@13radioactivonly hell if your trash at the game
Idk how, but I queued up as t2 German, and someone had a panther...which by my knowledge is t4. So not sure how that worked.
So as a noob i cant use the gold gun because it will put me in 5 with bolt action rifles 😢
Well i just played my first match after the merge and fought a panther, a tiger and a panzer iv with the crusader . Another poor soul had the m13. i just hope that any issues regarding matchmaking will be fixed because historical accuracy ( which i really appreciate ) was abandoned in its sake
Get skill don't cru 😢
I feel like the BR system is very, very messed up at the moment.
I used to play during OBT long ago and just recently came back to the game and I got only BR1 squads but I'm constantly matched with BR3 enemies+allies... which really sucks >_<
Easily noticable that my BR1 tank spawns next to a BR3 tank. Also the weapons used by everyone else.
Pretty discouraging to say the least. I feel pretty powerless quite often.
Its a really common complaint, and it was a pretty big issue back in OBT as well. I think theyll make BR3 its own queue once the playerbase stabilizes.
Am I missing something? I'm BR 1 and regularly go against/alongside people with tier 4 weapons.
What is the point of br if it's just seal clubbing newbies with top tier (and p2w) weapons?
Tier and BR arent always the same.
Balance is questionable right now, we'll see if they change it
@HeyQuadro oh OK so the Garand is tier 4 but br 3? I see what you're saying now
I mean...Ha-Go vs Matildas isn't exactly fair
Yeah, this update a last nail to the coffin of japs armored forces.
Get good
I really like this console players are eating good also it cut down wait times a lot instead of me waiting for a minute and 50 seconds not it’s 30-50 seconds and rarely get to or over a minute and the battle rating pretty great too over all it’s great for the game
Meanwhile im seeing pz 4j which is tier 4 in battle of moscow when im in tier2
Played a couple games at tier 1 with some buddies and both ended up being in normandy against tigers. Our team had no ground vehicles capable of fighting back. There is potential but games like that are rough right now
They really should have made 6 tiers. Also they should have made Italy and the UK a separate faction.
if they get into the Korean and cold war I'm sure they will open tier 6 but I think for now they are going to milk the WW2 era as much as possible
also I don't think Italy and UK has enough high tier ww2 vehicles and weapons to compete with other factions
@@EvilMonkey403 Italy is tricky. It can have the P40 and some tank destroyers that punch hard. For the UK they can easily get a ton of high tier vehicles.
@@EvilMonkey403 I mean the Firefly currently in the combined ally tree is a UK tank.
@MultiKbarry idk if UK infantry weapons would be able to compete at Tier 5
ooooooh so thats what it is.....and here i wonder why my squad BR raised....
glad it helped!
First off, should have never left campaigns and implemented an economic factor to prevent over use of experimental weapons. Second, since they were hell bent on turning this into War Thunder with Infantry, they should have never left the 10 BR construct and simply did a +1/-1 matching. This whole merge has been the evolution of making things worse and worse.
it can be good but atm its sometime as bad as it were, first match i went tier 1 and got put against tier 4, that wasnt cool , it was even worse, but another battle was pretty similiar in tier
Get good or delete enlisted already
@@spencersecrest6001 hey salty boy i noticed your 5 different messages to me ,,get good'' sadly your argument is invalid because im already good in variety of games and closer to being real pro (even if thats almost impossible) than closer your mom and dad will ever be so back off
battle rating dont work lol, im battle rating 2 (soviet) bcs of pps smg but then i meet panzer 4 J and panther, but then i bring t 34-85 dt then i meet the same panzer 4 H and panther the difference is all the enemy infantry are using stg and mg 42 while im here only with pps, so my theory battle rating is not that simple, its not about all BR 1 10v10 but its more like 10v10 (1 high BR, 4 midBR, and 6 low BR) and it change based on available player so you can be 10v10 and the only one low br while the rest of ur team and enemy have high BR so the BR adapt with the availble player
Bro like I end up against tier 5s with tier 1 and 2
And make low tier equipment video’s for diffrent campaigns
So ONE SINGLE TIER 5 weapon drops you into tiers 5 maps regardless of ANYTHING else? Three tiers up for one gun?! Nice job, game!
If you play tier 2 expect to play tier 3s pummeling you. If you play tier 3 expect to pummel tier 1 and 2s or get pummeled by tier 5s. This merge is hot garbage in every aspect.
Really funny to see Italian or British on Pacific war or Normandy or Russia or Berlin
Edited:Oh yeah Japanese really had the big disadvantage now that merge is here. Becuz Allies had a lot of Arsenal they can use.
I Just hate it even with my tier 2 I get matched with tier 4 they just bash the shit out my team.
Do not worry once you buy a one gun which has BR 5 automatic Rifle then you can easily Spray some Players
Yeah they get rid of up tiers and add some damn anti cheat maybe it will be more enjoyable. Lot of people complaining about fighting tiers above the one they setup. Lot of the people lured in by Dark Flows paid ad campaigns touting historical authenticity are pissed off and quitting as well. Hopefully this merger doesnt run off most of the games already small player base. Didnt help they pretty much removed any ability to choose what maps you want to play.
Stop being trash at the game it's your skill that's the issue little fella😂
Why are so many ppl surprised that the "War Thunderfication" of this game was going to be so messy? lol
Level 5 players could just get level 1 gear and dominate tier 1 maps and get easy XP
This whole Matchmaker change is garbage previously you can start a campaign and be put with people who are max level at the campaign now with this update I was hoping that would not happen but no every freaking game at Rank 3 I'm constantly against ranked 5 which is so unbalanced and unfair that the game is just not even worth playing it really should be +1/ -1 Matchmaker cuz there's no way in hell that a rank 3 Squad is going to stand a chance against people in Tiger 2s like I only have a M8 Scott battle rating of one has to face a tiger 2H in Panthers
I found a bug granade launchers can pen tanks like jumbos and t34-85s i killed like 3 tanks with it atm xD
You were likely using the anti tank grenade launcher. It's not a bug, it's literally a feature
Oblivious player is oblivious
@brianterry8775 nope i used the ap one it went through a jumbo and killed 3 of its crew from the front
@@aremmallon cool, I'd make use of that as much as possible before it's patched 😂
They broke a great game for the sake of 30 seconds of matchmaking. My daily game to 0 interest. Sad. Undoubtedly the dumbest thing to ever happen to this game. It’s COD with a WW2 skin.
It wasn't just for 30 seconds of matchmaking. Campaign progression was getting more and more jank as the campaign's grew in number. There was also issues with matchmaking that everyone had to put on as high tiered weapons as possible. Now low tier builds are viable
@@brianterry8775 OK. so they broke the game for a small issue that only a few people cared about and now we're constantly thrown into campaign maps that a huge number of people don't want to play.
I agree@@axdp944
@@axdp944 yes, starting new campaing to get slapped by whole team of high tier players is for sure small issue
@@brianterry8775they did nothing but muddy, confuse the game. They did nothing new. It sucks. They could have done A LOT with other campaign additions for 1… all they did was shake their hands at the game so it’s slight more compatible with WT. you telling me the research tree is better now than before? For Enlisted?
Germany is my main army, but i cant seem to get in a battle with my army. I keep playing the BR 1 soviets, us, japan teams. But my BR 2/3/4 germany cant get any 😔
I was playng Tier II last night and it was super fun. had a few uptiers of people using G41/G43 and Panzer 4s. but I took them out quickly.
When I go high BR4, I meet Tiger 2 in Stalingrad. When I go BR2, I meet Pz IV J and Puma in Stalingrad.
Can Darkflow just stop desecrating Stalingrad and let it be normal, without fantasy time travelling vehicles? FFS
You've commented a few times this - it's not that big of a deal
Random matchmaking >>>> BR
That’s absolutely bs lol yesterday I was in a hire tier game and got clapped by multiple people using bolt action.
Those were not the players, but the bots. Feel the pain...
Post more gameplay vids!
RIP real enlisted. Campaings...
I setup my gear for Tier 1 but get matched with Tier 3 😂.
Matchmaking is broken. Having semi auto vs bolt action is unfair.
Tier 1 tank can’t do anything against Tier 3 smh 🤦
ngl i stopped playing enlisted becuase this is really ruining the game imo,i feel like im playing call of duty vanguard now
Skill issue
@@spencersecrest6001 skill issue that you got a default profile pic
@@brians9879 you got me
skill issue
they should base BR on the average battle rating of your equipment but also hard lock certain things like vehicle. So, one AVS in a lineup of mostly Mosins could keep you at BR2, but add an IS-2 and your BR goes way up because vehicles have the potential to be way more imbalanced than infantry weapons which are nerfed by virtue of being in the hands of a squishy meat man.
The system isn’t that bad but the matchmaking is absolutely terrible like i just keep getting destroyed
Get good or play racing games
@@spencersecrest6001 the old matchmaking wasn’t perfect but was okay, the max I have is a few m1 garand and i land in with full teams of lg42 and stg and some nasty machine guns
@@Axel-gh6vj yea the matchmaking is horrible and broke I have autos and keep fighting bolt action squads I was just trolling about getting good just salty about the update I don't wanna seal club new players and the new system is confusing as ever
Honestly for me, BR 3 is a total nightmare to play in due to always facing BR 5 and not 1 or 2. I haven't had a single game with a BR 3 loadout where I've faced lower BR's.
In this BR, I was facing Tiger 1's and 2's with a 75mm Sherman that had no hope of beating them, and my infantry with their M1A1 Thompsons and M1 Garands getting absolutely stomped by Germans with FG-42's and STG-44's.
Also the fact that the matches now are 90% players may seem like a good thing but the game's AI is still too poor to handle that, so frequently at BR 3 or above, your entire squad of 7-9 can get wiped out by a single person with an Automatic weapon before you even get time to auto swap to one of them and have time to turn them to face the enemy.
Also there's now situations that are absolutely unbalanced such as Tiger 2's on Normandy's D-Day maps being virtually unkillable even with 76mm Shermans if they choose to camp at the rear and use hills.
A lot of balance work needs to be done, honestly, as well as significant improvements to the AI so they don't flip flop between terminators with perfect aim and almost useless where they don't react at all to one of their allies dying right next to them. The AI just doesn't have enough awareness in general, especially positional awareness, where entire AI squads will just cause a massive pileup at the objective and get taken out by a single player with a few explosives. They don't position themselves in trenches or other positions of cover, and always try to be on the objective even if it'd make more sense to be behind or ahead of it.
I played with m1 garand against fg42 even when they were campaigns xD
@@daniels474 That is true but it was rarely more than 2 or 3 players.
Now I can be facing almost entire teams using them at the same time and it just gets unbearable. One of the effects of the merge is more players per match and they have roughly the same level of equipment so it is actually VERY easy to face 8 players all with BR 5 equipment while you've limited yourself to BR 3.
Honestly it'd feel better if BR 3 players got into matches with soft limits on the amount of BR 5 players so it wasn't almost entire teams and had a healthier mix of BR 3 and 4 players with a small top group of BR 5.
But then BR 5 would become a chokepoint in matchmaking.
@@reonthornton685 Good BR3 is now like playing with more difficulty to feel taking on the challenge and probably for video challenges from youtubers
@@daniels474 Eh not really. Being a BR 3 means almost 80% of the enemy team is going to be BR 5 currently.
The game is just not fun currently. If I use my BR 5 gear then it's just the same old but with more players involved.
The game is genuinely more fun if I set up a BR 2 squad set but it requires deliberately using weapons that may not feel good since BR 1-3 feels way more fun than BR 3-5.
Also doesn't help that a typical historically accurate US Squad is a minimum of BR 3. To accomplish BR 2 you need mostly British weapons unless if you plan on having squads equipped almost entirely with Springfields which only really accurate for the US Marines, not the US Army, so historical accuracy is actively punished.
The game now forces me to minmax a bit too much. I can push a BR 1 tank crew up to BR 5 just because of the SMG I pick for a single member, although I find this more of an issue with my BR 3 tank crews.
I am essentially forced to always play to minmax rather than being able to mix and match weapons within units. I either have to give a squad entirely up to BR weapons or expect things to go badly. I can't, say, give part of a squad Sten MK2's and another part of it M1 Garands without bumping up my entire army to face STG-44's and FG-42's.
It also means the US as a faction suffers severely while fighting Germany, since Germany just completely outclasses the US on equipment types. Germany has Assault Rifles, the US doesn't get any, the closest weapon being the M2 Carbine which is not a horrible weapon but it doesn't compete with the likes of the MkB-42, MP-44 or STG-44.
Germany gets Heavy tanks such as the Tiger 1 and 2. The US gets the Sherman Jumbo with only the 75mm gun. The German's get a true bomber, best the US gets is the P-47 which is pretty good but it's hard to beat 6 bombs with multiple rear gunners with at least one having a 20mm.
Germany gets a 20 round select fire rifle for silver. The US gets a very limited amount of them for Gold orders only.
The real world advantage of those high tier weapons being very rare among German forces goes out the window due to how Enlisted works.
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