What should we review next? Thanks to Peg for allowing us to use the footage of Slave Lake! Check out his channel th-cam.com/users/RedliningRedneck Also, challenge accepted.
I never had the resources to try this ,but get a big Ford or GM chassis place a 1000 hp 6-cyl. 567 diesel in it, it's a two stroke cycle,I think it had a blower instead of a turbo,these motors had an rpm range of 200-800 ,but damn they could pull 2000 tons on steel rails,oh they were locomotive engines and they were tied to a dynamo,but I think in a truck a multi disc clutch would do the job,the 567 is displacement of one cylinder.They were made in-line 6,V-12 ,V-16 and V-20,the latter was 6000 hp @ 800 rpm,but a bit to large at 20 feet long.
Deboss: talks about how the old idi's had some flaws. Also Deboss: Shows video of Peg and slave lake doing things that, quite frankly no truck should really be able to do.
Well ford didnt make them. They are international engines and international discontinued them in favor of the other 7.3 the Idis werent that good low horse and torque
Hands down my favorite Pegg-venture was when he did a IDI swap for a complete stranger in a Parking Lot.....its Minty AF. Ol fella was a traveller with his Truck Camper U-Haul Ol Pegg done him right!! Go check out the Vid, it's Lube Tube Gold!!
Peg is and A1 guy 👌🏻👌🏻 everyone should help people like he did giving guy A motor and helped him change it in the parking lot nobody does that anymore it takes balls of gold to be that big of a man
Ya that was super nice that he did that A lot of us “out of town” guys are like that. If you even stop on the side of the road with your engine off especially in the winter someone like that will come along. I’ll even pull people from the ditch with my vic if they’re in something small enough
That dude is very fluent with the f bomb just live watching his vids he makes me laugh and ol slade lake is a great truck he gives that poor truck hell and it turns around and gives him hell its an even trade
It ain't the lines. It's those crummy plastic caps with the barb ends. If IHC had done it properly out of metal with some o-rings you could just cut the rotten lines off and replace it with fuel line from NAPA and one of those Harbor Freight o-ring kits. But NOOOOOOO. You look at them crosseyed and they break so you got to get the whole kit... again. Other than that the IDI is bulletproof. Well, still is if you don't mind oiling the roads everywhere you go.
@@Mark_Tschetter That was my experience. Cut an o-ring while doing glowplugs, decided to replace all of the caps, new caps leaked immediately, pulled those caps off, put the new o-rings on, put the old caps back on, done. Guy who i sold it to is probably still running it like that lol
A trick that helps keep the return lines from leaking is to use washers from oil drain plugs between the plastic cap and the injector line. A nice trick that DieselTechRon taught us. It creates a better seal between the cap and injector.
Even in Texas summers, they don't want to start if the glow plug system isn't working. Good thing is the glow plug system is really easy to understand and repair. Never seen an IDI glow plug controller on the left side of the engine; on the turbo model, they're always on the right fender, and on the non-turbo engines they're on the back of the motor. The IDIT was done less for power and more for killing smoke. There were IIRC at least three tunes of the IDI, depending on the altitude they were destined to run at. Run a sea-level truck in, say, Denver and it'd be nothing but black smoke. Run a high altitude calibration at sea level and it was just as gutless as it would be at home, just with more clatter. With the turbo, the engine never realized it was anywhere but at sea level. Oh, and I'm still driving an IDI. Yeah, it's gutless, but it runs, and I don't have to deal with electronics issues that come up on newer trucks.
Knowing you watch deboss makes me even happier to know I’m subscribed to your channel. It has nothing to do with the Cummins engines, it just because of the cats, right?
Thanks David.Mine usually runs 4 lbs,Maybe hits 10-12 lbs boost when fuel pedal is to the wood.Much peppier than my NA 7.3 IDI. My last 6.9 's glow relay came on while driving-smoking all the plugs.So I run a momentary for 7 seconds and works great,although I know it's not recommended. Thanks for the turbo kit #!-might have to liven up the 7.3.
@@jaycousland9835 I've been running manual glow plugs for years. 7 seconds is exactly what you should be doing on a 6.9. Some guys go for 10 seconds and end up shortening the life of the glow plugs. If you're planning to keep the truck for a while, oilburners.net is a great forum to learn and share info on these trucks. Oh, and the ATS 088 has been out of production for about 30 years. You can still find used kits sometimes and a small community of shops are starting to build new ones. Mine was used as well and needed work before I could use it. ATS and Banks have long since given up on these engines though. Hypermax is the last big name that still sells kits.
David ,great info,yes,,I'm hoping my IDI's outlive me,as I spread my mileage out between several rigs.And thanks for confirming the 7 seconds-I was just going on my memory of how long the timer(relay) used to stay on.
My father just picked up an 85 f350 with the 6.9idi for $500 with a plow setup. Was running when we got it but later blew 2 rods threw the oil pan. Now he found a 7.3 idi none turbo for $250 with apparently 76000 original miles on it. Your video was perfect timing for us! Keep up the good work!
Purchased my 1984 idi for $600 drove it 60 miles low on oil changed the oil and put a snowplow on it. It starts well in winter when the block heater has been plugged in. The biggest pain was having to climb under it with a propane torch to heat up the starter so it would turn when it hit -30f. Still runs great.
Starter solenoid fixes glow plug issue, my 7.3 idi has been the absolute most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned hands down.. change the oil and change the oil cooler seals lol trust.. other than basic maintenance I haven’t had an issue.. return lines are basic maintenance that should be done every 3-5 years either way.. my 89 7.3 idi has a banks turbo i put on it and everyone said it’ll grenade.. 11 years later n I’m still waiting for it to “grenade”. Plus my truck runs on pretty much anything i dump in the tank.. which happens to be hydraulic oil at the moment.. last week was old olive oil. Have no cavitation issues with 340k miles on it. 5 speed happiness
Hey, I've got one of those! Slow project, but last I tried she runs decently well on old fuel. Slightly undersized true duals, sounds absolutely beautiful.
I loved the "smoke screen" option in my old '84 6.9. If it was 50 degrees or below, you needed two batteries and half a can of cosby sauce to get it going. The car parked behind would totally disappear into a thick cloud of smoke! If it was exactly 51 degrees or higher, you barely had to bump the key and it started like you just shut it off - no glow plugs, no spray, no smoke! The sticker said 150hp from the factory, but on the highway I could not do more than 65mph, and where there was a hill, I had to get a running start otherwise I couldn't make it over the top. *Still got like 17mpg though!!*
Two of my most favorite youtubers just met got together and it’s awesome. Also if those glow plugs are anything like the rest of the truck they’ve been gone for 20 years I don’t even know why he cycles them
Old Peg is a legend!!! Soooo trick man. It’s tragic that we don’t really get so much content from him these days. Ach well, I suppose that he’s aloud to have a life as well. Nice work Rich.
So a guy here in Washington State is building 400hp turbo IDI’s. He’s won his class at tractor pulls. He’s even out pulled modern diesels with the IDI’s he builds. Kind of cool.
Yep I lot of old UPS brown trucks use 7.3's paired with 5 speed Spicers. My building still has quite a few, they just won't die. You are right though, very gutless. Have to ring them out to get any power/speed out of them.
Never had an issue with glow plugs, or cold starts down to 0 F. Your friends IDI in Africa probably Isn't maintained well. Return lines are kind of a pain, but not as bad as other fuel systems. The achilles heel in my opinion is the fuel selector valve, and that they always leak oil. Other than that, they get decent mileage and provide adequate power to most uses, and last a long time. That's why we still see them being used
I,D,I. I think they rock, 1st and 2nd gear Great power for what it is, 3rd n O drive It falls on it's Face, Great plow trucks, Good set of glow plugs, the thing was just loyal , would plow 40 hours straight without missing a beat !!
I’m a transplant New Brunswick guy living in Drayton Valley Alberta who has worked in the patch his whole life , I’ve been to Slave Lake and I love both of the Canadian channels
I bought an f 250 with a 7.3 idi 5sp a few years back. I love the simplicity of these engines for example the ones with manual trans don't even have a pcm, fuel pump is an old school mechanical fuel pump ran by the engine, no annoying in tank fuel pump, compare the cost of injector pumps/ injectors to other more modern diesels and see just how much less it costs to replace these parts. one thing you didn't mention is that these engines will run on anything you pour into the fuel tank, I even ran on a gas/diesel mixture once. I have friends with other diesels that have had issues that cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars to repair and it makes me happy that my truck wont stop running while they are constantly fixing theirs. when you buy one of these trucks you are buying a truck with a tractor engine under the hood, your friends may beat you up the hill every time, but you will arrive at point B every time. this is the last generation of diesel you can buy that isn't choked down by catyletic converters, EGR valves, DPF's, SCR and all the other emissions equipment that just adds more expense down the road.
I can't say I ever had any problems starting a 7.3 where I live in Norway... Yes it smokes like hell, but it starts easy as long as the batteries are good.. I've had a 250 XLT Clubwagon and a 350 Customline with the same engine (non turbo) though.. But they always started, even after sitting for 6 months.. I love those 7.3 ❤ and they run 300k+km with not much problems... The electronics, is another story..
Starting the engine before the wait to start light goes out will not damage glow plugs. The glow plug systems on these continue to apply voltage after the engine has started. Most likely a damaged or defective glow plug controller will drive the glow plugs beyond their duty cycle and destroy them.
A 7.3 idi is how I found your channel. I had a 92 model f350 and started looking at youtube videos about it after I bought it. Found slave lake then went to your channel from there. We've come full circle.
Love watching Peg’s videos. No one has more dedications to keeping that old iron kicking than him. Ol Slave Lake is a legend in a world of usedtubes vehicles.
Just direct injection diesels starts fine without glow plugs,prechamber diesels like all to be in perfect shape,here when mine uncle had vw golf mk2 diesel,when one glow plug got weak,it is no start 😁
Nothing that can't be remedied with a shot of wd-40. Or ether...when you just don't give a damn anymore. Grew up with an 83 6.9 that we just never bothered to replace the glow plugs on. Shot of ether every morning and run it all day. Half million miles and a ton on idle hours and it took a wreck to stop it. The engine still ran, just not much truck left.
With a bit of searching you can find commercial continuous duty type glow plugs that fit these and with those the glow plug control circuit can be reduced down to a manual control and they normal count to XX before starting method. Beyond that they can also be converted to a intake heater grid or multi glow coil type intake air preheat that works well too.
AC60G plugs will fit, but the threads are a little too short for them to fully seat. The tips don’t protrude from the prechambers, though, so they’re safe. They DO NOT burn out, I’ve left them hooked to a battery charger for hours at a full 12V, glowing orange the whole time. ZD9s lasted about 4 minutes. I never tested Wellmans.
I had an 89 passenger van with a 6.9. Glow plugs were fubar, so was the controller. It would light off without ether at +30, still start down to -25 with plenty of go juice. Straight piped, and sounded awesome. Gave it away when changed provinces, cause it would never pass an inspection.
I just bought a turbo charged 7.3 Idi and it's had some tuning done to it its got high horsepower injectors In it I don't know how much they put out the old owner of the truck put them in I put a ATS Aurora 4000 turbo in it and I had my buddy find out how much horsepower it makes,he works on sled pulling trucks, and he said that my ol 73 idi puts out 313 hp. I don't us it for sled pulling or anything I just haul hay with 32 foot gooseneck and it's actually pulls better than my 73 powerstroke
Good maintenance is key. My grandpa owns a 89 F350. It doesn’t have the IDI 7.3L but other than seats needing to be redone and a new ball shifter. She is still mint 👌🏾
The old 498 Leyland engine used in the JCB used to have cavitation problems which was easily solved with aftermarket liners which were chrome plated on the outside as long as you used 505 or more antifreeze there was no longer any cavitation problem.
Love 7.3 IDI... Only two problems with them is they don't make them anymore, and if it has a 4 speed manual transmission rather than a preferred 5 speed.
I had an 88 7.3 ran to 345,000 miles then the body was failing to the point it wasn't worth fixing anymore. In it's day it ran with any 454 or 460 and got 3x the fuel mileage. At 285,000 we added a turbo because she couldn't hang with the big dogs anymore. With the turbo it could hang with any 5.9 or Duramax .
Cavitation is when a fluid boils due to pressure reduction. It is usually associated with pipe restrictions and bends in liquids that are moving too quickly for the plumbing situation. This has nothing to do with pistons. Now, there might be some cavitation in the engine, but your description of what cavitation is, was off the mark.
@Doug Deshawn I suspect that there's actually cavitation going on as Rich is pretty knowledgeable, but the statement made was "cavitation is " bla bla bla that was not a correct description of the physical phenomenon of "cavitation."
@@stephendee7839 happens due to combustion pressure slightly deflecting the cylinder wall and then it coming back true. When it comes back to place it creates a slight vaccum on the coolant side and the coolant boils off. Those bubbles then collapsing is what eats away at the block/liner
My dad used to have a 94 F250 with a 7.3 IDI. Had a bad glow plug controller so it was basically impossible to start, until we just hotwired the glow plugs to a button. Worked great, but the body was gone. He bought a Cummins instead, 98 with a 12v. Trans sucks lol.
LOL. I've watched every "ZIP TIES N BIAS PLIES" Video out there and they are HiLL AriaOuS! "It got impounded in Beaverlodge" . Hey that's the town I was raised in when I was 6 until 10. Crazy man! just remember "YoU Don"T NEEd any oIL in it To run"!
I am still 100 percent behind STOPPING the application of corrosive stuff on the roads. We do not need road salt. And I didnt mean it like "You dont NEED road salt" I meant it for real. Winter tires shoudl be required on all vehicles traveling through snow.
Eddie Reichel every time I see a plow truck with a giant salt dispenser I cringe. Especially if it’s an 80s dinosaur. But here in Oregon things don’t seem to rust much anyways.
@@fastinradfordable Come to Ohio. I bought a 2000 Toyota Corolla base model in November that the guy was gonna scrap, and he didn't want much for it, just like $190. It didn't have hardly any rust, and now it's everywhere on the underside of the unibody despite a carwash once or more per week! Everything gets rusted out in a day! I didn't expect much so it's fine that it did since it's pretty low mileage, so I'll take the engine out and consider swapping it into a go-kart somehow. That would be crazy!
Road salt and de-icing chemicals cause BILLIONS in damage to our nation's infrastructure every year. It is avoidable, but the political machine says no.
I remember in Alberta during the 80s and early 90s, they used to use sand. Now we get the salt/pea gravel mix that rots your steel and busts the crap out of your windshield. Calgary is the rock chip capital of Canada.
Not to mention the damage to vegetation on the roadside. Drive up I89 in NH and nearly every pine tree is dying because of how much salt is in the soil. It’s winter, roads get snowy and icy. SLOW DOWN. That means you, too, Mr. Passing Everyone At 80mph BroDozer I’ll see upside down & backwards in the median within 5 miles. With the money we’d save not buying salt everyone could afford a set of snows (studded or not) or chains.
I had a '92 F350 crew cab. It went straight from the lot to a local diesel shop here and we installed a Banks turbo kit. That truck was an awesome truck!
What should we review next?
Thanks to Peg for allowing us to use the footage of Slave Lake! Check out his channel th-cam.com/users/RedliningRedneck
Also, challenge accepted.
Series 50 Detroit Diesel 4 Cylinder
Review a C series 8.3 Cummins!
The magnum series of engines, 5.2/5.9/8.0
5.9 p pump cummins
I never had the resources to try this ,but get a big Ford or GM chassis place a 1000 hp 6-cyl. 567 diesel in it, it's a two stroke cycle,I think it had a blower instead of a turbo,these motors had an rpm range of 200-800 ,but damn they could pull 2000 tons on steel rails,oh they were locomotive engines and they were tied to a dynamo,but I think in a truck a multi disc clutch would do the job,the 567 is displacement of one cylinder.They were made in-line 6,V-12 ,V-16 and V-20,the latter was 6000 hp @ 800 rpm,but a bit to large at 20 feet long.
FUUUCKKKIN MINT!!!!
My two favorite Canadians in one vidjya. Miiinnnttttt!
Bring AvE and the gang all here.
ZIP TIES N BIAS PLIES 👌
Fuck that Ginger Goof From Inwood... Fucking 👌
Love it!
Who else was completely disappointed after reading the tile and finding out this wasn't an actual Deboss / Zip Ties crossover episode.
ME!!
me
and me
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Add another me to the list
Slave Lake at SEMA would be amazing!!
Slave lake would make all those builds look like shit
Yes!!
Slave lake at SEMA would be a real mint fuckin head turner. That's for sure.
It would be the only thing that actually drives.
That shows how shit pathetic sema is.
Idk what this is but I thumbs 👍 because it looks like HYPE!!! YESH!!! Do it do it!
This was basically a thirteen minute ad for zip ties n bias plies. And I loved it.
Deboss: talks about how the old idi's had some flaws.
Also Deboss: Shows video of Peg and slave lake doing things that, quite frankly no truck should really be able to do.
And still run, idle, like nothin
@@davidgrant3940 radioactive horse piss my man..or atleast thats what he likes to call that shit
Nick Cosby in a can
@@traxxasrcfun I mean if I tried that shit with my 10 letter shit spreader, yeah nah, not good
Dont question why ol slave lake is still running.. its like one of the 7 wonders of the world.
Corn poop is 8th, Slave Lake is 9th
@Cooper Kiichler he dosent give enough of a fuck to rebuild it
Cooper Kiichler have you even seen his videos haha
Slave Lake is like a clapped out version of Christine, it just won't die.
@Cooper Kiichler definitely never rebuilt
Love the commitment on censoring f-bombs that fades away after a rapid fire by Peg
Dude if he actually took the time to finish the job this video would had come out almost a year later lmao
i think They just gotta do it for like the first 30s i think for youtube's new ad bs again
Yeah I think he only bleeped 2 of 45 f-bombs 🤣
like 2 f bombs out of ten were censored
It was odd to hear his voice with a bleep at all 😂
Slave lake is PROOF that these engines can survive anything.
They're also gutless pigs so I would hope it wouldn't blow up. If those trucks had turbos they wouldn't break 200k😂
@@rickshiandmoku4128 my '88 f250 7.3idi non turbo has 330K on it and still running strong... Cold starts are a diffrent story
@@nightbot706 my 85 6.9 still hauls cords of wet wood pretty good fords just love abuse
When people shit on ford I send em a link to a vidya of slave lake
@@rickshiandmoku4128 completely incorrect, did you watch the video?
Ol slave lake sue sounds nice when he is sending it
Ya but it’s probably running on 6 cylinders
@@pistonringfarms8107 at least 7
ah yes i see your a man of zip ties as well
@@Randy_bosss absolutely I love his videos
Shes loyal
someone comented before saying slave lake should be towed down to SEMA
Needs to be driven down to sema
SEMA... lolol
The fuck you smoking? Needs to be driven
@@Drewsky840 I dont think the border guys would let ol slave through though if peg were driving.
slave lake would be the best thing at sema
“YOU DONT NEED (add required fluid here)!!!!” @ZipTies&BiasPlies
Accurate
You don’t need both legs
“Bruce Jenner juice”, “gender fluid”, “Alberta premium” 😂👌🏻
Youuuuuuu donnnttttt neeeeddd oilllllll😂😂😂😂
You don't need maintenance!
PEG!! Look up the word loyal in the dictionary and its a picture of Slave Lake.
That's the damn truth. Especially after his last video or six.
Yup there it is. Loyal ::::: definition "see slave lake "
Just fuckin loyal!
What I learned today: Ford discontinued the 7.3 idi's because they are too good. Aka Cuz they're MMMIIIINNNNNTTTTTT!!!!
You forgot they are F***ing Loyal too!
Just realized this was a Canadian allstar cast! Deboss, Ol Peg and then a cameo by Canadian Jack Black at the end! So much winning in this vidjah!
Well ford didnt make them. They are international engines and international discontinued them in favor of the other 7.3 the Idis werent that good low horse and torque
@@jdrok5026 Exactly! Really concerned that Deboss seems to think Ford made the IDI as well.
@@jdrok5026 Exactly! I'm a little concerned that Rich seems to think Ford made them. Would've thought he'd know better.
Hands down my favorite Pegg-venture was when he did a IDI swap for a complete stranger in a Parking Lot.....its Minty AF. Ol fella was a traveller with his Truck Camper U-Haul Ol Pegg done him right!! Go check out the Vid, it's Lube Tube Gold!!
Episode name please?
Peg is and A1 guy 👌🏻👌🏻 everyone should help people like he did giving guy A motor and helped him change it in the parking lot nobody does that anymore it takes balls of gold to be that big of a man
Ya that was super nice that he did that
A lot of us “out of town” guys are like that. If you even stop on the side of the road with your engine off especially in the winter someone like that will come along. I’ll even pull people from the ditch with my vic if they’re in something small enough
You gotta admit, that guy they helped was pretty mint
Will Crosbie that was awesome, probably one of the best videos on the tube.
Damn strait..
That was an awesome video . Swearing at each other lmao
Deboss: they don’t like starting in the cold
Ziptiesandbiasplias: bet
Slave lake - hold my ether
@@traxxasrcfun Princess Auto's finest consent in a can
Nope! And they sure are noisey too! Lol!
Cosby in a can
Peg: hold my potato water.
Slave lake
HOLD MY ETHER
Cosby in a can!
Consent in a can
That dude is very fluent with the f bomb just live watching his vids he makes me laugh and ol slade lake is a great truck he gives that poor truck hell and it turns around and gives him hell its an even trade
I have an '86 6.9 IDI and she's still running great. Old, loud, slow, and temperamental in the cold but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Banks turbo system !
Same here brother love my 86 6.9 🍻🇺🇲
The cat at the end cracked me up 😂
Almost shit myself laughing at that 👌
that needs to become a permanant edit i think
@@evanforster2665 definitely. That was hilarious.
rich the people have spoken
😸 Mint
This engine reminds me of a 5hp Briggs and Stratton, you can run it on limiter for ten years and never change the oil and it will still work.
“The return lines are cheap and leak”
Me: “They’re not that bad!”
Also me: *Checks shipping of my eBay return line kit*
You don't need no return lines!
It ain't the lines. It's those crummy plastic caps with the barb ends. If IHC had done it properly out of metal with some o-rings you could just cut the rotten lines off and replace it with fuel line from NAPA and one of those Harbor Freight o-ring kits. But NOOOOOOO. You look at them crosseyed and they break so you got to get the whole kit... again.
Other than that the IDI is bulletproof. Well, still is if you don't mind oiling the roads everywhere you go.
Ebay return lines leak right out of the box, because the Chinese know nothing about tight tolerances.
@@Mark_Tschetter That was my experience. Cut an o-ring while doing glowplugs, decided to replace all of the caps, new caps leaked immediately, pulled those caps off, put the new o-rings on, put the old caps back on, done. Guy who i sold it to is probably still running it like that lol
A trick that helps keep the return lines from leaking is to use washers from oil drain plugs between the plastic cap and the injector line. A nice trick that DieselTechRon taught us. It creates a better seal between the cap and injector.
Even in Texas summers, they don't want to start if the glow plug system isn't working. Good thing is the glow plug system is really easy to understand and repair. Never seen an IDI glow plug controller on the left side of the engine; on the turbo model, they're always on the right fender, and on the non-turbo engines they're on the back of the motor.
The IDIT was done less for power and more for killing smoke. There were IIRC at least three tunes of the IDI, depending on the altitude they were destined to run at. Run a sea-level truck in, say, Denver and it'd be nothing but black smoke. Run a high altitude calibration at sea level and it was just as gutless as it would be at home, just with more clatter. With the turbo, the engine never realized it was anywhere but at sea level.
Oh, and I'm still driving an IDI. Yeah, it's gutless, but it runs, and I don't have to deal with electronics issues that come up on newer trucks.
Peg is damn near my neighbour.... lives a couple hours away !!!
Northern farmer deboss lives about 40 minutes from me lol. Small world we live in
@@Beandiptheredneck hey me too I went down to his shop around Christmas new year
Joey tbgm where do you live?
@@Beandiptheredneck the communist city of Toronto what about you
Just take a rip down old highway 666 to get there!
One of the Mintiest vidyas ive seen in a while!
rswany16 AvE?
nice to see 2 of my faourites getting "along" tho you cant beep out peg...he'd be too quiet :)
hahaha 😂 beep-beep de beeeep-beep and then beep-beeeeeepbeep-beeep in the beeeeepin beep
Look at my duramax too hard and it breaks down.......Guess I'll start taking shop advice from @ZipTiesNBiasPlies lol
Knowing you watch deboss makes me even happier to know I’m subscribed to your channel. It has nothing to do with the Cummins engines, it just because of the cats, right?
Human I watch your channel as well I don’t even know what to say about your truck man but I’m sorry
Speaking of which, I'm curious how your truck is doing now after your last problem?
Fancy seeing you here, human!
@@rosskelly88 So far so good, the #1 injector was putting more fuel into the return than it could handle. New injector and return line holding tight.
For the cost of one injector on an early powerstroke, I can replace all of them on my 6.9IDI Turbo. I will give props to the cummins 12V though.
David ,I have a turbo 6.9 also-and yes repair parts cost is one reason.Did yours come with a turbo like mine did ?
@@jaycousland9835 I had to install the turbo kit myself. ATS 088 kit (non-wastegated)
Thanks David.Mine usually runs 4 lbs,Maybe hits 10-12 lbs boost when fuel pedal is to the wood.Much peppier than my NA 7.3 IDI.
My last 6.9 's glow relay came on while driving-smoking all the plugs.So I run a momentary for 7 seconds and works great,although I know it's not recommended.
Thanks for the turbo kit #!-might have to liven up the 7.3.
@@jaycousland9835 I've been running manual glow plugs for years. 7 seconds is exactly what you should be doing on a 6.9. Some guys go for 10 seconds and end up shortening the life of the glow plugs. If you're planning to keep the truck for a while, oilburners.net is a great forum to learn and share info on these trucks. Oh, and the ATS 088 has been out of production for about 30 years. You can still find used kits sometimes and a small community of shops are starting to build new ones. Mine was used as well and needed work before I could use it. ATS and Banks have long since given up on these engines though. Hypermax is the last big name that still sells kits.
David ,great info,yes,,I'm hoping my IDI's outlive me,as I spread my mileage out between several rigs.And thanks for confirming the 7 seconds-I was just going on my memory of how long the timer(relay) used to stay on.
That cat at the end put a smile on my face “mint!”
Meow.
My father just picked up an 85 f350 with the 6.9idi for $500 with a plow setup. Was running when we got it but later blew 2 rods threw the oil pan. Now he found a 7.3 idi none turbo for $250 with apparently 76000 original miles on it. Your video was perfect timing for us! Keep up the good work!
My two favorite youtubers in one video couldn’t get any better than that!
Some engines are powerful, some are reliable but others take abuse
Purchased my 1984 idi for $600 drove it 60 miles low on oil changed the oil and put a snowplow on it. It starts well in winter when the block heater has been plugged in. The biggest pain was having to climb under it with a propane torch to heat up the starter so it would turn when it hit -30f. Still runs great.
I bet you had laughed the entire time you were editing. My favorite clip is the one of slave lake ramming that old Chevy.
Starter solenoid fixes glow plug issue, my 7.3 idi has been the absolute most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned hands down.. change the oil and change the oil cooler seals lol trust.. other than basic maintenance I haven’t had an issue.. return lines are basic maintenance that should be done every 3-5 years either way.. my 89 7.3 idi has a banks turbo i put on it and everyone said it’ll grenade.. 11 years later n I’m still waiting for it to “grenade”. Plus my truck runs on pretty much anything i dump in the tank.. which happens to be hydraulic oil at the moment.. last week was old olive oil. Have no cavitation issues with 340k miles on it. 5 speed happiness
Yep !! Oil in the fuel whatever doesn’t matter
I do two cycle wheel in there lol!
Hey, I've got one of those! Slow project, but last I tried she runs decently well on old fuel. Slightly undersized true duals, sounds absolutely beautiful.
I loved the "smoke screen" option in my old '84 6.9. If it was 50 degrees or below, you needed two batteries and half a can of cosby sauce to get it going. The car parked behind would totally disappear into a thick cloud of smoke! If it was exactly 51 degrees or higher, you barely had to bump the key and it started like you just shut it off - no glow plugs, no spray, no smoke!
The sticker said 150hp from the factory, but on the highway I could not do more than 65mph, and where there was a hill, I had to get a running start otherwise I couldn't make it over the top. *Still got like 17mpg though!!*
We love Peg!!!!! Man’s a legend!!!!!!
LMAO! The cat says “mint” now, that’s too perfect!👌👍
Two of my most favorite youtubers just met got together and it’s awesome. Also if those glow plugs are anything like the rest of the truck they’ve been gone for 20 years I don’t even know why he cycles them
Old Peg is a legend!!!
Soooo trick man.
It’s tragic that we don’t really get so much content from him these days.
Ach well, I suppose that he’s aloud to have a life as well.
Nice work Rich.
So a guy here in Washington State is building 400hp turbo IDI’s. He’s won his class at tractor pulls. He’s even out pulled modern diesels with the IDI’s he builds. Kind of cool.
Omg that's amazing. I have a 92
THIS IS THE VIDEO I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
I was hoping for a collab one day.
At 6:33 I’m pretty sure the “7.3” is a 6.0 haha
That definitely looks like one
LOL Yup, that's a 6.0. You can tell it's an early 6.0 because it still has the throttle body assembly. They stopped putting them in after 2005.
@@CollinWeis hello there Collin
Yeah, it’s a 6.0. The 7.3 valve covers were a plane cover w no fancy details. The 1st gen 7.3 is different from the 98-2003 the 01-03 had weaker rods.
Zip Ties is freaking Mint!
Yep I lot of old UPS brown trucks use 7.3's paired with 5 speed Spicers. My building still has quite a few, they just won't die. You are right though, very gutless. Have to ring them out to get any power/speed out of them.
Never had an issue with glow plugs, or cold starts down to 0 F. Your friends IDI in Africa probably Isn't maintained well. Return lines are kind of a pain, but not as bad as other fuel systems. The achilles heel in my opinion is the fuel selector valve, and that they always leak oil. Other than that, they get decent mileage and provide adequate power to most uses, and last a long time. That's why we still see them being used
I,D,I.
I think they rock,
1st and 2nd gear
Great power for what it is, 3rd n O drive
It falls on it's Face,
Great plow trucks,
Good set of glow plugs, the thing was just loyal , would plow 40 hours straight without missing a beat !!
You missed an f bomb or two. Hard to keep up with ol zip ties 😂
I’m a transplant New Brunswick guy living in Drayton Valley Alberta who has worked in the patch his whole life , I’ve been to Slave Lake and I love both of the Canadian channels
Yeeeew don neeed to check yer oil!! Oem hoodlatch though. Mint!! 👌
I love my 7.3 idi I’ve had half a dozen and I love them.
It would be hilarious to do a full restoration of old slave lake
And as soon as shes all purty and shiny, send her right back to hell
I’m running an 89 7.3! Saved her from a field in southern Alberta 5 years ago and now she lives on the west coast 👍
I bought an f 250 with a 7.3 idi 5sp a few years back.
I love the simplicity of these engines for example the ones with manual trans don't even have a pcm, fuel pump is an old school mechanical fuel pump ran by the engine, no annoying in tank fuel pump, compare the cost of injector pumps/ injectors to other more modern diesels and see just how much less it costs to replace these parts.
one thing you didn't mention is that these engines will run on anything you pour into the fuel tank, I even ran on a gas/diesel mixture once.
I have friends with other diesels that have had issues that cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars to repair and it makes me happy that my truck wont stop running while they are constantly fixing theirs.
when you buy one of these trucks you are buying a truck with a tractor engine under the hood, your friends may beat you up the hill every time, but you will arrive at point B every time.
this is the last generation of diesel you can buy that isn't choked down by catyletic converters, EGR valves, DPF's, SCR and all the other emissions equipment that just adds more expense down the road.
I can't say I ever had any problems starting a 7.3 where I live in Norway... Yes it smokes like hell, but it starts easy as long as the batteries are good.. I've had a 250 XLT Clubwagon and a 350 Customline with the same engine (non turbo) though.. But they always started, even after sitting for 6 months.. I love those 7.3 ❤ and they run 300k+km with not much problems... The electronics, is another story..
2:15 Like how you bleep the first f bomb then give up 10 seconds later
Starting the engine before the wait to start light goes out will not damage glow plugs. The glow plug systems on these continue to apply voltage after the engine has started. Most likely a damaged or defective glow plug controller will drive the glow plugs beyond their duty cycle and destroy them.
Awesome! Love how you did this video to have ol' Zipties N Bias Plies act as a counterpoint! Thumbs up!
My brother has a IDI and he absolutly loves it. He hauls all types of machinery with his with ease
Love my IDI, curious what you got challenge, cant wait. Whistlin diesel might have a dmax halfway there.
A 7.3 idi is how I found your channel. I had a 92 model f350 and started looking at youtube videos about it after I bought it. Found slave lake then went to your channel from there. We've come full circle.
The idi is my favorite sounding diesel, has a cool grumble. 3208 come second
Dt466 for me. 3208 is great too. 7.3 and 6.5 chev cold are great straight
Idis sound good idling but when you hit the accelerator they sound like a big block gasser
Andrew Stratton Which is why they sound so great.
I couldn’t agree more
Love watching Peg’s videos. No one has more dedications to keeping that old iron kicking than him. Ol Slave Lake is a legend in a world of usedtubes vehicles.
Just direct injection diesels starts fine without glow plugs,prechamber diesels like all to be in perfect shape,here when mine uncle had vw golf mk2 diesel,when one glow plug got weak,it is no start 😁
It's gonna be a lot easier cranking and starting a small diesel that's a fourth the size of a 7.3 guaranteed.
Random Channel every engine has starting sistem designed to start that engine,golf starter wouldnt start 7.3,not same
Nothing that can't be remedied with a shot of wd-40. Or ether...when you just don't give a damn anymore. Grew up with an 83 6.9 that we just never bothered to replace the glow plugs on. Shot of ether every morning and run it all day. Half million miles and a ton on idle hours and it took a wreck to stop it. The engine still ran, just not much truck left.
You clearly dont watch zip ties and biasplys
Jeremy hanna nope 😁
With a bit of searching you can find commercial continuous duty type glow plugs that fit these and with those the glow plug control circuit can be reduced down to a manual control and they normal count to XX before starting method.
Beyond that they can also be converted to a intake heater grid or multi glow coil type intake air preheat that works well too.
AC60G plugs will fit, but the threads are a little too short for them to fully seat. The tips don’t protrude from the prechambers, though, so they’re safe. They DO NOT burn out, I’ve left them hooked to a battery charger for hours at a full 12V, glowing orange the whole time. ZD9s lasted about 4 minutes. I never tested Wellmans.
Fuckkkkin minttttt
literally between electronics and such, the old 12v cummins the 7.3 idi, and 6.2/6.5 are bloody loyal, no worries of computers b-lineing it out
Lol kinda thought I wanted a 7.3 Powerstroke but seeing this shit makes me want a 7.3 IDI as my first diesel
Zip Ties is a national treasure. Just a treat to watch and nothing but loyal.
Hahahaha the cat at the end made me laugh so loud it, scared MY cat and my wife and I almost fell out the bed! F@#* that was funny!
Peg leg just dropped a new video involving slave lake. That minty pos runs minty fresh.
At the end, Willard is still stunned. 😅
I love you DeBoss, but Zip ties for life!
I had an 89 passenger van with a 6.9. Glow plugs were fubar, so was the controller. It would light off without ether at +30, still start down to -25 with plenty of go juice. Straight piped, and sounded awesome. Gave it away when changed provinces, cause it would never pass an inspection.
Oh Snap! theres gonna be a sick dope dopety dope throw down! its going to be MINT!!!!
I just bought a turbo charged 7.3 Idi and it's had some tuning done to it its got high horsepower injectors In it I don't know how much they put out the old owner of the truck put them in I put a ATS Aurora 4000 turbo in it and I had my buddy find out how much horsepower it makes,he works on sled pulling trucks, and he said that my ol 73 idi puts out 313 hp. I don't us it for sled pulling or anything I just haul hay with 32 foot gooseneck and it's actually pulls better than my 73 powerstroke
Love my idi, plenty of the obs’s running around here. Love this video yeehaaaaaaa
Cat says it all at the end. And I haven't seen anything that will take what slave lake takes. Ol girl stands up and take it regardless.loyal
I love the Canadian talent, keeps me laughing 😂
I’ve watched this for the millionth time. Just love how peg proves the idi. Love it
No cred to IH that actually made the engine for Ford?
Thats why i own three of them the truck underneath is just a shipping container. The international is the reason i love the 7.3
Good maintenance is key. My grandpa owns a 89 F350. It doesn’t have the IDI 7.3L but other than seats needing to be redone and a new ball shifter. She is still mint 👌🏾
Peg is my spirit Animal
The old 498 Leyland engine used in the JCB used to have cavitation problems which was easily solved with aftermarket liners which were chrome plated on the outside as long as you used 505 or more antifreeze there was no longer any cavitation problem.
Peg and Dirty Rich 🤘
Looks like it's time for a cold snack and some earplugs for the kids 👍
I've used many diesels and still nothing makes me happier than a idi. Mint
that truck earned it's name slave lake
Love 7.3 IDI... Only two problems with them is they don't make them anymore, and if it has a 4 speed manual transmission rather than a preferred 5 speed.
I had an 88 7.3 ran to 345,000 miles then the body was failing to the point it wasn't worth fixing anymore.
In it's day it ran with any 454 or 460 and got 3x the fuel mileage. At 285,000 we added a turbo because she couldn't hang with the big dogs anymore. With the turbo it could hang with any 5.9 or Duramax .
I love my 7.3 idi. 1988 F350 crew cab loooooong bed.
Cavitation is when a fluid boils due to pressure reduction. It is usually associated with pipe restrictions and bends in liquids that are moving too quickly for the plumbing situation. This has nothing to do with pistons. Now, there might be some cavitation in the engine, but your description of what cavitation is, was off the mark.
@Doug Deshawn I suspect that there's actually cavitation going on as Rich is pretty knowledgeable, but the statement made was "cavitation is " bla bla bla that was not a correct description of the physical phenomenon of "cavitation."
@@stephendee7839 happens due to combustion pressure slightly deflecting the cylinder wall and then it coming back true. When it comes back to place it creates a slight vaccum on the coolant side and the coolant boils off. Those bubbles then collapsing is what eats away at the block/liner
My dad used to have a 94 F250 with a 7.3 IDI. Had a bad glow plug controller so it was basically impossible to start, until we just hotwired the glow plugs to a button. Worked great, but the body was gone. He bought a Cummins instead, 98 with a 12v. Trans sucks lol.
LOL. I've watched every "ZIP TIES N BIAS PLIES" Video out there and they are HiLL AriaOuS! "It got impounded in Beaverlodge" . Hey that's the town I was raised in when I was 6 until 10. Crazy man! just remember "YoU Don"T NEEd any oIL in it To run"!
He's dumb AF
I had an 88 F-350 with an 7.3 IDI N.A. and every single issue you have identified on here I had to fix.
I am still 100 percent behind STOPPING the application of corrosive stuff on the roads. We do not need road salt. And I didnt mean it like "You dont NEED road salt" I meant it for real. Winter tires shoudl be required on all vehicles traveling through snow.
Eddie Reichel every time I see a plow truck with a giant salt dispenser I cringe.
Especially if it’s an 80s dinosaur.
But here in Oregon things don’t seem to rust much anyways.
@@fastinradfordable Come to Ohio. I bought a 2000 Toyota Corolla base model in November that the guy was gonna scrap, and he didn't want much for it, just like $190. It didn't have hardly any rust, and now it's everywhere on the underside of the unibody despite a carwash once or more per week! Everything gets rusted out in a day! I didn't expect much so it's fine that it did since it's pretty low mileage, so I'll take the engine out and consider swapping it into a go-kart somehow. That would be crazy!
Road salt and de-icing chemicals cause BILLIONS in damage to our nation's infrastructure every year. It is avoidable, but the political machine says no.
I remember in Alberta during the 80s and early 90s, they used to use sand. Now we get the salt/pea gravel mix that rots your steel and busts the crap out of your windshield. Calgary is the rock chip capital of Canada.
Not to mention the damage to vegetation on the roadside. Drive up I89 in NH and nearly every pine tree is dying because of how much salt is in the soil.
It’s winter, roads get snowy and icy. SLOW DOWN. That means you, too, Mr. Passing Everyone At 80mph BroDozer I’ll see upside down & backwards in the median within 5 miles. With the money we’d save not buying salt everyone could afford a set of snows (studded or not) or chains.
Without Peg, i might not have ever found the goodness that is Deboss Garage, nor would I have found DD Speed Shop or Vice Grip Garage.
They’re just “F#*+ING LOYAL”!
I had a '92 F350 crew cab. It went straight from the lot to a local diesel shop here and we installed a Banks turbo kit. That truck was an awesome truck!