Cadillac ATS Transmission Fluid & Filter Change | Shudder Be Gone
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- The Cadillac ATS requires a transmission fluid and filter service at 45k (many dealers will do at 35k or earlier). If you ignore it, it will lead to an ever-increasing-shuddering transmission. Most rear wheel drive GM cars (including the Camaro and Corvette) will not make it to 45k before the shuddering begins. Mine was getting progressively worse especially on longer trips. After seeing what was inside the transmission, I'm glad I did it early at 39k. Here's the diy-in-the-garage-at-home process. • Cadillac ATS Transmiss...
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Absolutely great video. A local shop wanted $500. I completed it within 2 hours thanks to this video. The CTS has no shudder and shifts smooth as butter. I used the fluid extractor and pulled all the old transmission fluid out before removing the pan. Not one drop was spilled. the fluid he uses in the video is the correct one. Mobile 1 has another fluid but with a black label. Dont get that one.Make sure you get the blue label. Mine still had the factory filter in it so it hasn't been changed in 100k. There is a date code on the GM filters. the 4 ramps gave me enough clearance to roll around on a creeper. I used a body panel rivet remover to get the fill plug out. You can also use 90 degree long neck pliers.
So glad it helped!! Sometimes just that little peak is all you need. Nice job 👍
i have a 2015 cts with the 3.6 , could it also take around 6 quarts?@@sstressfl
@@MrFitzfn if it’s never been done before, drain it and measure how much you remove. Then replace with that much. You can also find specs on the Google or pay $20 for access to alldata’s website 👍
@sstressfl thank you I will let you know how it goes , I just got a service transmission light that recently came on
When you say shutter and shifts are you referring to when it feels like it lags during 2nd gear? I have a 2016 cadallic ATS, and just found out I need to replace the transmission fluids and have it drained!!
2015 Cadillac ATS 2.0T Auto 6 RWD.
Replaced differential at 90,000.
I got the shudder two weeks ago at 155,000 miles. Watched the video, replaced fluid and filter.
Drove 100 miles today, glad to say it’s fixed. Thanks for the video, liked and subscribed even tho your caddy is gone. ❤
That’s all good news 💪😎 Nice job. Love that your caddy was rolling smooth for so many miles. Enjoy many more! 🙏
DUDE YOU ARE A LIFESAVER. Just changed the transmission filter & fluid after my car kept jerking & when putting into drive wouldn’t move unless i tapped the gas. Bought that hose from harbor freight & you saved me thousands of dollars. Rides like new. Belle tire wanted 6k for a new trans & told me it was shot. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0T AWD. Hardest thing was fitting my fat hand to put the tube into the fill hole lol. Thanks again brother, much appreciated! Also you helped my change my rear diff fluid. Ended up have to replace the rear diff dude to leaking & running out of gear oil.
Man that’s awesome to hear ❤ Love it!! Thanks for the feedback 🙏
Thanks for doing this! The ATS gets neglected on forums, and there aren't many DIYs, especially for transmission fluid changes. You're just about as meticulous as I am when you get under the car, make 4 passes around the oil pan when tightening, etc. Glad to know I'm not the only one.
Its such a low volume special car. It’s great to be part of the exclusive group 🤗 Nice to meet you and thank you for the feedback 🙏
You are right. My ATS sounds and shifts smoother and quietly
William Miller it’s an absolute joy 👌🤗
You sir are a jack of all trades!!! That fluid was definitely past it's prime!
It was nasty right!? Only 39k miles too. Eeek! Thanks Jedz 👍
Did this today thanks!!! mechanic said it would cost $600 to flush my system and there’s still no guarantee it would work. I did exactly as you did and it runs like brand new.
Love it. It’s mostly clearing that filter to restore line pressure. Sometimes it it needs to be done 2 or 3 times to get rid of all the material inside. So glad it worked for you! Huuuuge savings! 🙏
Finally pulled the trigger today and got the job done. Thank you so much michael. Getting on the freeway and pulling off I was completely shocked. The car drives so smooth and drives like it never did before. Appreciate the video. God bless
Hey that’s great news! It’s a joy to drive when it’s working as it was designed to work 😎🙏
Is the car still driving good now?
The trans was perfect. But you can watch the Cadillac ATS playlist here th-cam.com/play/PLB7a9_qObrLjioJnsz5RBVQ-nJ1EQmGG_.html&si=PF9dkh_gZHiNajmK in short, the on-going failing rear differential problem eventually wore me down.
Thank you for your fast reply and help, tomorrow I will take the car from Bahrain authorised dealer, I will buy the oil and the filter and I will change it by my self ✌️
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Thank you for the excellent video! I've always performed my own auto repairs except for paint/bodywork. I had the dealership service mine since I'm too old to work under a car on jack stands, for long periods, so I'm looking at car lifts. When I changed my front and rear differential fluid at 62,000, I was surprised at how milky and thin-looking it was. So I ended up doing it again after 1000 miles or so.
That's good advice about changing the fluid again. And yes yes yes!! A car lift is ideal! I like the QuickJack. Perhaps someday. Thank you for your sharing and thank you for your kind words.
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I am so thankful for your video! Thats what i feel with whats happening with my 2015 ats . Got a grinding sound i cant figure out trans slipping some. Took it to transmission place he said fluid level fine but i feel its dirty like yours. I will have it changed and go from there.
I truly hope it helps. It’s the lowest hanging fruit and if it fixes it you can dance in victory 😁 I’m praying you don’t have anything major but worried about that grinding sound… that can’t be good. Unless unrelated to the trans! 🙏
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Just did this service. Yeah, the 4 ramps trick works but sketchy. You can drain some fluid via the plug but you will spill some anyway. There is a replaceable lip seal that seals to top of the filter funnel. I did mine at 88k and it was cleaner than in this video. I did have the fluid flushed at 50k. If you have AWD the front axle drive shaft is really in the way. To get the plug back in I used a plastic 90 deg fork too that is made for removing snap in panel fasteners. That got the plug back in in 20 seconds after wrestling with it for over 20 minutes. Total job time was 2 1/4 hours.
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@@VelleyIndustrial I'm aware! I did a drain, measure and replace what was drained. That plug on the pan is a measuring stick so to speak :)
Thank you so much for this video. I have a 2013 Cadillac XTS, which I just bought cheap from a friend. I was experiencing the same issues with only 120,000 miles on my Cadillac. I'm changing out my transmission fluid and filter tomorrow. Once again thanks.
You’re welcome! And thank you for your feedback 👍
Did it make a difference??
It did.
@@jeromeshockley9572 how many quarts did you put ? & is there a filter in xts ?
@@priptalsingh3076 I sold my XTS. I had my transmission fluid changed out by a reputable transmission shop. Don't remember how many quarts was put in to the transmission but I was informed by the service tech that the transmission has NO filter that needs to be replaced. The problem went away afterwards. I flip cars as a hobby so this was my last project before the COVID Pandemic hit. I bought the XTS dirt cheap at 121,000 miles. The shuddering issue around the 122,000 mile mark.
After watching this I feel like buying an ATS just to change the transmission fluid
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recommend always making sure the fill plug comes out okay before draining in case you have a problem, same for differentials. Also with the change you did you didn't get the dirty fluid in the torque converter so there can be 30-50 more there depending on the setup. Thats why dealers offer a flush and a pan/filter change like you did. I have them do both so i get the bennies of both new fluid and a new filter. But great job on the video!
Good tips! There’s an older service bulletin online where they change the fluid 3x this way to get the tc fluid as much as possible. That was my plan, to do it again soon, but once I took it in to the dealer for a different problem, I asked them to diagnose the shudder. And they did. The previous dealership told me it was not bad enough yet and I didn’t press. Which is why I changed my own fluid. And as you can see, it seriously needed to be done. My car is at a new dealership and they have been magnificently helpful. 👍 ThAnk you for your feedback 🙏
@@sstressfl Like you I have experienced a really bad dealer and a really good dealer - thankfully in that order :) The new dealer has taken care of me fully and really fixed every problem i bring in so i now reasonably trust what they say. Hope yours fixes yours to your expectations, nothing like a properly running vehicle!
Flushing the tranny cause more damage to your Valve body and solenoids. Best way itS to drop the pan and drain, Change Tranny oil filter , Don’t use DEXRON VI that stuff is junk and what makes your tranny fail! Use
Mobil 1 LV ATF HP. Then wait 2 weeks and do the same drain and fill and tranny oil filter change and thats how you get all that Old Dexron VI out .
Great Video. Having my transmission fluid changed this weekend. Tempted to do it myself but I'm still under warranty and don't want to chance it.
Augie Spano that’s great!! As you can see, it’s necessary service. Glad you’re getting it done 👍
Interesting, informative and entertaining. Excellent presentation that inspires confidence.
Thank you 🙏
This video is mint. thank you for this!
Kevintheoutlaw thank you 🙏
Metal sludge is normal in a transmission, it's sort of healthy to be honest. It means your transmission teeth have worn together. One of the worst things to do is to flush the transmission, a simple change of filter and fluid is all you need.
After I did my second change on my ATS it was much clearer. I plan to change mine every other year, because I know their transmissions are very complicated and sort of known to have issues.
You speak truth!! :) I do know why you're saying not to flush, but on a newer transmission like this one that is filled with excessive metal and clutch sludge that causes shuddering, a flush is the actual solution dictated by GM (albeit temporary until it fills up with contaminant again). Doing it manually helps tremendously though. Especially if you do it multiple times like you did. An older transmission that has been neglected can start shifting horribly after a flush... the process strips away sludge that is keeping it functioning. And I agree with you... I think an annual change on this transmission is required for long life. Thanks for your feedback and enjoy the ATS!
Thank you it fix my shutter in my 2014 ATS 68k miles! Your the man…
Truly happy to hear it 👏👏👏 appreciate letting me know 🙏👍😎💪
Did you use the same oil as this video?
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In case you have to do this to another car, here is an easier (for me) method. I saw you have air compressors. Use the large bottle of fluid. Use 2 3/8 or smaller plastic fishtank type tube. Make 2 exact tube diameter holes in the fluid container cap and stick one tube down to the bottom. Put the other end of that tube into the transmission. Put the other tube into the cap about an inch. Use low air pressure and put air on that tube end. It will force all the trans fluid into the transmission.
Great video, thanks for posting!
Thank you 🙏
liked the simplicity,great job.
Thank you 🙏
I wished you owned an XTS V Sport...in which there are nearly zero vids like this on. Your videos are excellent.
Appreciate it 🙏have you tried to see if www.alldata.com has an XTS v sport?
I know I am 4 years late, but the metal shavings, for the most part, are normal wear and tear. Your fluid is a little bit on the darker side. When you need to worry is when there are metal chunks.
I agree it looks almost normal, but I’ve changed a lot of trans fluid. This stuff is way too much for a car that started its problems at 20k. Even more than I’ve seen at 100k. That filter was completely saturated with clutch and metal material. With excess mixed in the fluid and laying on the bottom of the pan. So bad that line pressure was impacted to cause shifting issues.
@@sstressfl 6 or 8 speed?
6 speed! Similar issues as the 8 speed. But after initial cleanup the 6 speed should be ok. The 8 speed shudder will reoccur and need a flush again and again. Many 8 speed owners find every 30k miles to keep the shudder at bay.
I am doing mine now. I drained fluid, cleaned, installed new filter and put pan back on. Six quarts came out and I am filling back up now. How do I know how many quarts go back in? I saw another video and the guy said to remove the drain plug and fill till it comes out there. Any help would be great. Thanks
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Recommend complete transmission oil flush at a mechanic shop. You do a drop pan/ filter but the tranny itself will have oil in it that you can’t drain with just swapping the oil.
Like I said in the video, it might require multiple pan drops to get rid of the shudder. GM says 3x is usually required. A flush is a great way to get it done if you have access to a trusted mechanic. Besides, the 8 speed will need a flush every 30k miles to keep it from shuddering. The 6 speed will usually only require one in its lifetime. But also this was diagnostic for me. It proved that contamination was the root cause of the shudder.
I have installed a drain-plug on every differential and oil pan on every car I have ever owned
I have been so tempted but when I consider I have to change the filter anyway.... BUT, it has GOT to be so much cleaner than a pan drop!! Good for you, John!!
I am going to change my ATF next week , as soon as I can get the filter and gasket:)
WOW! I had no idea how hard it was to change the transmission fluid. I wonder if this is the same for the ATS V. I am just surprised that there is not an easy way to empty the transmission oil and add it back from the engine bay. I had to take my ATS V sedan A8 in yesterday for the jerky/harsh shifting from first to second. I received a text this morning from Sewell that they had to replace the Value body. Thanks for sharing this video.
They sure don’t make it convenient! So glad they’re fixing your A8! I hope it’s smooth as silk for years to come 👍 thanks for sharing and for the feedback 🙏
I recently got the valve body replaced and transmission fluid flushed as well for the same reasons. How is yours holding up after they did this?
this month I plan to change the factory oil on Mobile HP, I will pray to all gods that it will help because I don’t want to change my Cadillac XT6
How did it go?
@@sstressfl Unfortunately, I haven't changed the oil yet, in the country where I live there is no such oil anywhere, I will try to order with delivery on ebay
Oh wow! I hope you will be able to get it shipped!
Man I enjoyed watching ur vid just your character alone feels very humanitary
Thank you for your kind words 🙏❤️
The metal shavings are normal in a pan drop and fluid change. The magnet is there to hold captive the debris from freely circulating through the transmission. A good schedule for this maintenance is every 60,000 miles. Copper nickel antiseize on the pan bolt threads is going to help future you get the bolts out without trouble
The ats 6 speed calls for a 35k fluid and filter change. And the volume of shavings and clutch material is not normal when shuddering due to contamination starts at 20k. It’s excessive. My 100k transmission fluid change in my Dodge Grand Caravan looked about the same which was expected at 100k.
@@sstressfl you obviously drive the Cadillac a little bit more spirited than you do the Dodge.
@@markk3652 I drove it like a baby because it kept breaking. I have a whole series of videos. The car lived at the dealership.
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i have a Cadillac ATS-V and i have been suffering from this shudder since i bought the car, so this oil you talked about in the video is it suitable for ATS-V?? Note: i drove the car for 73,000 kilometres without changing the transmission oil once, as the dealer said there is no need.
waleed alblooshi I believe this applies to your transmission and recommends a new fluid flush: gmauthority.com/blog/2019/08/tsb-seems-to-fix-8-speed-automatic-gm-transmission-problems/comment-page-3/
No fucking reason whatsoever that transmissions need to have the pan dropped to change the fluid and filter. They should have a drain plug and a spin-on filter, just like doing an oil change. We did this at GM Saturn. Should have also not done away with the transmission dip stick. The automakers WANT your drivetrain to fail.
I have always felt like transmission fluid changes were intended to be punishment. Every car I've owned back to my first car, a '66 Dart, required a pan drop. Saturn did some things right. Its a shame the dealer network wouldnt live up to the intended sales strategy and such. If Saturn was dealer direct, I think it would have survived.
All that stuff you pulled off the magnet and from the bottom of the pan, that stuff is normal. Its very fine metal and clutch material which happens with use of any automatic transmission. What you dont want is actual chunks or metal shavings that look like they have been scraped off but, that very fine stuff will always be there.
At 100k yes. Not at 20k when the shudder started. The filter was saturated. Low
Line pressure. None of this is normal.
Hello ! I currently have a ats 2015. I was thinking of changing the transmission fluid due to the fact that when breaking it begins to pull back but only does it every once in a while. Would it possibly be due it hadn’t had a change in the transmission fluid ?
The transmission fluid interval I think is 35k on this car. It sure doesn't hurt to keep it fresh and clean! Especially that filter... once it gets filled with metal and clutch material, it gets blocked and lowers line pressure in the transmission. Its also possible you have a transmission issue (I cant be sure) but my attitude is do what you can do cheap and easy first! And, its hard to diagnose until you have fresh fluid and a clean filter.
Most mechanics will advise a pan drop and filter change just like Michael did. They advise against a full flush to avoid slippage.
Thanks Tom! In my life, it has always been a standard service (at different mileage with different vehicles) to drop the pan and change the filter. A flush was a rare service, usually tied to transmissions that had serious problems/contamination. And I did read that a flush can help clean an old transmission "too well" and cause shifting issues. But with these 6 and 8 speed transmissions from GM, especially well under 100k miles, the flush might be the only fix for the shudder... or a 2x or 3x home-fluid change.
You should change your transmission valve body. I hade the same issue I changed the fluid, filter and valve body because I seen my fluid like your if not with more metal shaving sludge so I thought my solenoid was clogged or the valve body it self because the fluid expansion when hot/warm and having sluggish old fluid can cause those little passages to get clogged or partially clogged. So long story short if you have problems with your transmission when it's hot or warmed up I think you should definitely change those 3 things before more damage
Thats great advice! The dealer ended up flushing it. It's fine now! But shy of a power flush, the valve body could have stuff stuck in it.
Hey man i have an ats 16 and it has about 28k mileage and it shudders should I change the transmission fluid and what kind of fluid does it take.
Should you change out the fluid even if the car has more than a 100,000 miles? I was told not to switch the liquid because it might just cause more problems so I’m debating trying out the Lucas transmission fix instead.
Historically transmissions that have not been serviced get all worn and gummed up inside. New fluid has a way of cleaning it and washing away the gunk that was keeping things sealed. So sometimes after changing fluid on an old transmission.... it gets worse because the new fluid washes and cleans all the old gunky stuff out. So its a gamble. I usually go ahead and change the fluid and filter. If it makes things better then YAY! If not... then boooo, I'm paying for repairs. But if you want to try the Lucas stuff, feel free. You'll need to remove some fluid to make room for it. But I suspect you probably need a new filter inside that thing. Its gonna be clogged and causing low line pressure. Whatever you decide, if the transmission is giving you grief, you have to do something or it'll eventually leave you stranded somewhere. Praying for a good outcome!!
Great video, thanks. I have a Cadillac ATS 2014 AWD. My question is: does my transmission needs to be hot, my car has been on stands for a couple of days.Do i need to go to the gears ? How do i know how much oil is in the gears ect...In your video you took out six quarts of oil and put it 6. How can I tell if I have the correct amount of oil?
Is it possible I’m missing a bit of oil to begin with?
Thank you
Alex.
Does not need to be hot! Do not go thru the gears. Drop the pan and change the oil. I read that others used 6 qts when they replaced their trans oil and so I measured to make sure that 6 qts was correct. I drained 6 qts and it’s as others have said. I added 6 qts. There is a process to replace all of the fluid but it requires much more fluid and the ability to pump it thru the trans while it is running. The best at home job I can do is to put in a new filter, new fluid. It will make a huge difference. Perfect? No. But you can try to change it again in the future and the new filter should have caught much of the remaining contaminants. The option is to pay the dealership to flush it for you. I hope that helps! Let me know how it goes for you!
FYI What you saw in the oil pan is mainly clutch material and the amount you had was very minimal.
You think so? I've never seen that much material and especially not in a car with 40,000 miles. It's excessive. Steel. Aluminum. And clutch material. I've gone 100,000 miles in cars and not seen that kind of corruption. I'm about to change the transmission fluid in my 2015 Grand Caravan with 100k on the odometer. It'll be interesting to compare.
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@@zacharyball8009 i guess I misunderstood. I agree it looks very contaminated. And by normal you mean normal for this specific transmission then yes.... at 40k miles this 6 speed looks like other transmissions do at 100+k miles. I just dropped the pan on my 2015 Dodge Grand Caravan at 100k and it looked similar if not healthier. And the van’s transmission is smooth as silk and has never shuddered. And the Dodge has a recommended fluid change at 120,000 miles or 60,000 with heavy towing. The 6l45 is indeed a very weak and/or poorly designed/low quality transmission.
Hey Mike, always tighten in a X pattern. If you don’t know where to start, always in middle and outward. Nice job!
Sorry it didnt seem obvious. Thats how I tightened it in the first wave. The round about was to make sure I didnt miss any.
My ATS had the shuttering issue, known issue with 8 speed transmission. Dealership did fix with new fluid, different weight, and a new computer flash. GM totally knows there is something wrong with this transmission. Car hasn't felt the same since they did this, feels like a less torque is making it to the wheels. I think they are just limping me along until the warrant is over. Dealership said in the early days they were replacing the torque converter but this is the new fix now. It does shift better and now shutter, but sometime still doesn't act right. Just wondering what the long term out come will be with this car.
Uhhhg.... not good to hear. Any chance you can bring it back again until it’s right? My car is in the dealership right now for rear end noise. Will let you know what comes of that in the next video. Hope you get yours fixed proper.
@@sstressfl Don't get me wrong, the dealership has been great. But they are only allowed to do what GM authorizes. The cars has been great overall, enjoy driving it every day. But when it comes to noises in the rear suspension, won't touch it. Shuttering, just change the fluid and re-program computer. When I complained that it doesn't shift and drive the same, you get excuses that it's in your head. Now I've got the noise coming from the front driver side suspension. Only happens over 60 miles per hour and certain road conditions make it worse. Hopefully it's just an unbalanced tire or something simple. Love the car, hate the lack of support from GM. Enjoy your videos, subscribing now.
@@djmatropolis1 I truly cheer for Cadillac... I want them to build world class cars, and in my opinion the ATS reached a whole new level of "wow!" Its a shame some of the sourced parts are not up to the challenge. My best to you and your Caddy. And thank you so much for the sub my friend!
Where did you order the filter
I put a link in the video description below... but this is it! amzn.to/3oeYpLP
My Cadillac is close to 70,000 miles, can I change the gear oil for the first time after this mileage without any problem?
I would!! It’s not like a transmission. It’s chunky metal inside with 3 seals keeping the fluid from dripping out. Also make sure the vent on the top of the differential is clear and breathing free. They get plugged easily. If it’s an AWD you can use Amsoil SVG fluid or the GM equivalent. If it’s a RWD use the GM fluid spec’d for that specific differential. 👍
Hey man I have cadillac ats 2.0 2014 I changed the transmission fluid and filter along with sparking plugs but still i can feel the shudder really worried suggest me how i can stop the car from shuddering
Was there any change when you changed the fluid and filter? If no improvement, it could indicate you have another issue. If it was better then change it again. Or take it to a shop a d have them power flush the system. I hope that helps 👍
Curious, did you buy a GM filter or after market one? I very much enjoy your videos. I have a 16 ATS and I get the shuttering, kinda sounds like lugging the motor if it were a stick.
Aftermarket! I read some reviews and bought one that people claimed worked very well. My trans feels great right now... I suspect the rear end is now an issue.
Please marry me lol but really detailed video, very clean and precise, love it 😍
Eight Mind ha!! Thank you for your very kind words 🙏😁 I appreciate it 🤗
@@sstressfl I found my wife on myspace 13+ years ago....YOU just NEVER know Michael. LOL. Keep the great content coming and GOD bless.
God bless you too!! And thank you for your comments & feedback :)
When doing fluid changes I have a box of large puppy pads in my shop....I lay them out for spills.....those really soak up a lot of spills
That's a great idea! Thanks for sharing that tip.
Great video....thank you.....I have a 2013 ats 3.6 rwd premium.... starting to shudder...same procedure?
Should be the same :) Hopefully you see excellent results.
I can't find a local transmission shop to do this, including Goodyear or national trans shop. How many quarts needed for 6 spd auto trans for 15 awd ATS 2,0L, base, Please? Is there Amsoil fluid equivalent?
My ats was a 15 base awd 2.0t as well :) I dropped the pan and measured. 6 qts exactly. So I replaced 6 qts. And yes some people use amsoil and love it. But I recommend you use their application chart… but do t be afraid to email or call them. They are happy to tell you what’s compatible for your car.
thanks for this video. after doing the first transmission fluid change (35k) when would you recommend to do the next transmission fluid change? also have you done a brake fluid flush?
AL I haven’t thought that far in advance lol Also I haven’t brake fluid flushed nor planned on it. I put new rear calipers in and added a lot of new fluid. That helps a bit. My next project will be rear differential fluid hopefully soon before the snow arrives!
Michael Byrne great! excited for that video
Changed it every 35k - 50k if u like peace of mind. Same with ur diff fluid.
I gotta do this to mine👍
What about the filters o ring, or seal, or whatever they are calling it. It's supposed to be removed and replaced before reinstalling the filter?
The filter came with a new one. The old one looked like new and had no rips or damage so I used it. But it’s there if you care to pull the old one from its perch and tap in the new one.
was it the solution to remove the little shake at 40 to 60 miles?
Still running smooth? looking at doing it to mine. I general only have the shudder at low rpms under 2000.
HUGE improvement. I have found that I still have some after an hour drive, fully warmed up, usually at 70 on the hwy going up hills. But the contamination is the reason why it shudders. It has to be done. A new filter has to be installed. New fluid must displace the old stuff. It makes all the difference.
Did mine at 40,000 although recommended at 45! I just recently found your channel, subbed!!!!
@@paulcondie2520 Why wait right? Especially if it feels like it needs it now! Get it done 👍😎 Thank you for the sub 🙏
@@sstressfl I needed an inspection so figured I'd do it while there. Rather have done it myself but no time. I'm a road worker and long hours so sorta of a trade off, long hours vs money out of pocket....... Lol. Hopefully your transmission holds out for awhile or goes while still under warranty
@@paulcondie2520 My dad once told me, "eventually you'll have more money than time" as I was laying underneath my car washing the underbelly. I do understand how priorities have to change given diff situations and other priorities (like work) have to come first. Glad you got it taken care of. You made me think of a friend who makes hundreds per hour and explained to me once, "I would LOSE money to stop what I was doing to work on my car. It's cheaper to pay someone else". Love it :) Oh well. I suspect I would still work on cars even if I was rollin' in dough. I so much enjoy it. My best to you!
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Did you drain the torque converter? Sorry I skipped through haha I know some people don't like to when it's this bad.. I just did mine but skipped the TC for now. Also, good work man! Video was simple with good vibes 👌
I did not! I read that 3 fluid changes are almost equal to a flush. I had planned to do 3... at least try 2, but then my car ended up at the dealership and they took care of it. And thanks for the feedback! :)
Hey man thank u for this video
I have ats 2015 3.6 i just want to know what is the oil for the transmission fluid
FAWAZ N Mobil 1 Synthetic LV ATF HP fluid👍
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I have a question 🙋🏽♂️
I have a 2013 with 89,000 miles don’t have no transmission problems but don’t know if person before me ever changed it but was wondering if you think I should do it just incase I’m just scared that if I do it at these miles it will slip
You have the 6 speed auto just like me. I know some people that have changed their fluid at higher miles and did not have any issues. But you could always call a Cadillac dealer and simply ask if they think it's ok. Or... you can visit cadillacforums.com and post a question. They are quite the group of smart folks that like playing with cars.
Thank you very much for the vid Micheal. It helps guide me through the same process with my 2014 ats that has worsening transmission shudder at 65k. The shuddering is now gone. However, I now have grinding noise coming from the tranny at 1st and 2nd gear regardless of mode (auto or manual). It happens all the time at cold start but much less often after driving for about 30’. What do you think is the problem? I used 6 qt of the atf just like you did. I spilled i littlr during pumping but the spill is very small.
Awesome that the shudder is gone! But grinding is not good. Assuming it could have improper fluid level. The transmission is very sensitive to proper level. Were you able to measure the amount of fluid that came out? There is a way to verify the level using the fluid level bolt on the pan. I hope it's just improper level, but I hate that there is noise, it's possible you have some wear damage internally. A buddy of mine is having his 2013 ATS 6 speed auto completely rebuilt right now due to internal damage and his has been maintained by the dealership :( I pray that's not your situation. But start with verifying proper level first! Let me know what you discover!
@@sstressfl turned out the fluid was low ☹️I had assumed that my garage was level and thus, putting the car on 4 jack stands would identical to your case. So I only put in 6 quarts just like you did without actually measuring how much I took out. Turned out the garage has a freaking slope (the level tool confirmed it). I jacked up the front two axles up via the middle jack point (with backup jack stands on the sides) to make sure the car is level and do the transmission fluid level check at 122F (with an IR gun); no fluid came out of the drain hole. It took 1/2 more quart to be at proper fluid level. Apparently, tilting the car to the front caused 1/2 more quart to come out. At the end, the car now shifts smoothly on all gears. Hopefully my stupid mistake didn’t cause too much damage after about 100 miles of driving 😑
@@quangvu4093 Thats awesome news!! I think you'll be ok! WOOHOO! Love to hear a success story :) Have a great day and thanks for sharing!!
@@sstressflhey man i have a 2014 Cadillac ATS 2.0 AWD, does it take the same fluid as you put in?
@@miguelbTGOD Yes its the latest version of Dexron 6, but with some friction modifiers to aid in shudder problems. I have also heard people used the ACDelco stuff with great results and its a little less expensive - this stuff >> amzn.to/3VBSWeJ
Great video man. I had a question. Does this service require a non slip additive to the oil?
No not at all. The new Mobile HP fluid was designed with a little extra friction modifer to help with the probems in the 8 speed. Its Dexron 6 with a boost :) But many people use the regular GM fluid (AC Delco) with no problems. The important thing is to change it and get a new filter in their. If you have a serious shudder, multiple fluid changes (3) might be needed or a professional flush. Hope that helps!
@@sstressfl thank you . 🙏🏽
I’m changing mine today...I was gonna do the same with ramps😎
I felt SO safe with the ramps. And it keeps the car nice and level. My best!
Where’d you purchase that fluid extractor?
Amazon cheapy! amzn.to/3UX8kC8
Where did you get the fluid? I can’t find any locally. I found it on amazon for 6quarts at 44 dollars.do you think that 6 quarts is enough? And the gasket is reusable? Thanks
Amazon is good! Great price too 👍 6 will do it 💯 Gasket is completely reusable. It’s actually meant to be reused. Don’t forget the filter!
Michael Byrne lol yeah I already picked up the filter today from the dealership. I should have just picked up the fluid as well but thought I could find Mobil 1 locally because I wanted to do it tomorrow. Guess I’ll have to order it. Thanks for your help
Very helpful and entertaining
Thank you!
What transmission filter did you use? I was told there was a filter with coolant and without it ? Do you know anything about that ? Thank you
I just went to rockauto.com and found the part based on my cars year make and model 👍
Hey bro great video, so by dropping the transmission oil pan you replaced about half of the total ATF capacity for this transmission, if you wanted to change all of the transmission fluid on this ATS, what approach would you take?
You could take it to a dealer and let 'em pump it through ;) Or remove the overflow bolt and pump more fluid into the mix to dilute it yourself - but its driving better than it ever has since I bought it at 17k.
Here's how I see it... It's NOT the fluid so much as it is the incredible amount of metal shavings. It needs a new filter asap. It needs the magnet to be cleaned off, it needs the pan to be wiped clean. Just like the magnet, the old filter was completely maxed out. I suspect the shavings in the bottom of the pan get sucked up while driving, press up against the saturated filter, restrict proper fluid flow, then fall back down into the pan when you stop driving. Shuddering, poor shifting, all of it is due to the shavings. Once you have the new filter installed it will grab the remaining metal shavings. You could change it again (as some ATS owners do) and replace the filter again. And the old fluid? Its synthetic! Its capable of many more miles, but it's the corruption of the fluid, not the viscosity of the fluid that needs to be fixed.
@@sstressfl This is exactly it. Your video helped me do my 2014 ATS and I had the exact same findings. TONS of metal shavings in the pan and the old transmission filter was fully gunked up. The old fluid didn't necessarily look bad as you said, it was just full of metal shavings and I would absolutely notice the shudder after highway driving.
My ATS has ~55k and would shudder really bad, but just did the 6quart drain/refill with a new filter and it's a complete day and night difference.
No shudder at all after long trips/highway driving and the car is much smoother in it's shifting. My next plan is to do the rear-diff drain/refill as I think this would help also.
Thanks for your video, much appreciated!
@@maximusdpsimus2278 I'm so glad it helped! What a difference! I noticed Sport mode now shifts sooner and quicker. I plan on doing another fluid and filter change after this winter just to get more of those shavings and to inspect the filter again.
My car had it done by dealer and it still shutters but I do want to change it my self maybe the dealer oil suck 🤷♂️
Great video! I have the shuderring issue with 2016 ATS and was struggling to find if this is a common issue with the car on amy forum. Gona change the transmission oil / filter and see if it helps.
It’ll make a big difference. You might need to do it again later to get closer to perfect.
@@sstressfl Thanks Michael!
I am going to get it flushed before I put the new transmission oil. Thats what the dealer also suggested.
@@jibranqureshi2027 I have same problem with ATS 2015. Did the trans.oil & filter change solve the problem?
@@DoctrZhivago Yes it did! I would say about 90% of the shuddering is gone. Do get it flushed a couple of times at least (I did the flushing process with a cheaper gear oil).
Hello so I have this problem when I’m pulling out of a parking spot the car shutters so if I was to do this it should at least help it or even fix it thanks
Do you get shudder any other time? Like when you're going up a hill in high gear, or lightly accelerating at around 4-50mph? If so yes, prolly transmission. If not, it could be a loose engine or trans mount, or a fuel delivery issue...
@@sstressfl I do not it’s only when I start the car sometimes and start to pull out of my driveway or like a parking spot I pull out and it feels and sounds like the cars wheels are slipping I have a 2013 XTS and I read some forums and a lot of people that drive the 2013 cts xts and ats all say around 120k miles their cars starts to do it and some say it could be a torque converter what do you think it could be besides what you replayed to me. Thank you
@@Zutiac could be low line pressure in the trans due to a clogged filter. I usually start by making sure fluid is fresh and filter is clean. Make sure car is in proper tune then go from there. At some point you gotta dig in 👍
@@sstressfl yup thank you so much
awesome video. i have a 2017 ATS w/ 20k on it and i am having these trans issues. taking to dealer to see how much this cost to do! have you been running good since you did the change? cool ATS videos. thanks from PA!
A I it has been 90% better! It’s a must do. Also look for anything that could be out of tune on your car or dragging brakes or wheel alignment. In my experience so far all of that can add to shudder.
One problem. When tightening the bolts start in the middle and do a cross pattern. Center bolt on one side then center on other side. Then back to opposite side. Then back to opposite side and rotating in a cross cross pattern. Tighten to 8ft.
lbs. First pass 4 lbs 2nd pass to 8ft. lbs
Thaks for sharing your concern. I did a criss cross pattern to bring the pan down. I went around the block to make sure I didnt miss one. Sorry if you feel I didnt make that clear enough. Also the manual says 6.64 ft-lb (9nm) total torque.
Silly question, if you remove that fluid check bolt. could you put the pump hose in there and pump the fluid out? About to do this myself and trying to figure out a way to do it that doesn't end with me dumping this on my face.
lol... the face splash is a very real risk! But the reason they do transmissions this way (at least I always thought so) is because you need to replace the filter. And the only way to do that is to drop the pan. Sadly that fluid check bolt won't help you to empty it. I have heard of people adding drain plugs to their pans! But that won't save you for this fluid change. Wear safety glasses! :)
@@sstressfl Yeah, I am still planning on ultimately dropping the pan. I just thought if I put the pump tube in there first, I could get maybe get most of the fluid out before I did.
@@HoldMyBeverage it would be nice :)
hey do you know if the car is still in running condition and how many miles it has?
My car? It has 50k on it now and yes its running great. It still has a minor vibration under load that the dealer never fixed. But after I changed the fluid in this video it was much better but needed one or two more fluid changes to make it 100%. But before I could do that the engine had problems and I took it to the dealer to be fixed under warranty. While it was there I asked them to look at it and they fixed it. I was told they did a full flush and it worked. I havent had shudder since then.
Great video!
Thank you my friend 🙏❤️
Great stuff, and well documented video! Question: did you notice any gas mileage improvement after the fluid change?
Thank you! I did not. However, once I changed the fluid in the transfer case and added an ounce of friction modifier I restored a lost 2 mpg 👍
That oil was really black😅
And you made half a change, but it gives you about 50 k miles to drive.
Mine is a 2017 ATS luxury and i have noticed shuttering when transmission shifting at light load I have over 100K on it
I think I will do oil change on the tranny and the rear end axle seal is leaking Hope I caught it in time so I will be working on that soon. Before driving it much more. I used mean green cleaner on the display and now the touch screen wont work properly. so I will be installing a new touch screen soon.
Those 8 speeds definitely need frequent fluid and filter changes to keep from shuddering. And uhhhhg I’ve had so many issues with the rear diff on this car! Sorry you’re dealing with it too. Sounds like the mean green was prett caustic. I use mequiars auto detailer wax to clean screens. It’s very mild and leaves a very clean finish.
How many miles were on the odometer when you changed the transmission fluid?
Around 35k. Maintenance interval is 45k but it couldn't wait. The shudder and sluggish shifting was getting bad.
How did you remove the full plug? I’ve been trying to figure it out but I’m stuck
I reached in from the front, above the shaft and pushed against and upward with a long screwdriver. It popped it out then I reached in with my hand to remove it the rest of the way.
All around that fill plug was a pain in the A##. With AWD, the drive shaft is in the way, making it very hard to get to. You would think the engineers would of put it on the other side where the linkage is and plenty of room. Also it was hard to try to put the hose in the filler hole from lack of room. I used a piece of copper wire and wrapped it around the hose end to be inserted into the fill hole. Wow it took only a few seconds to get it into the hole. Also used the wire then to help hold it in the hole while refilling with transmission fluid. Used a hand pump like yours from Harbor Freight and it worked great. The next problem was getting the filler plug back in the hole to seal it. The previous copper wire didnt work for that since it wasnt rigid enough. Used a clothes hanger to hold the plug to get it back in the hole and that worked pretty well to. Thanks again for a great video.
Also, I forgot to mention, in addition to having AWD and the drive shaft is in the way. I have the 3.6l engine and one of the exhaust pipes runs right next to the drive shaft which leaves you with very little space to try and get you fingers in there to remove the filler plug.
2013 ATS 3.6l AWD I used a pair of needle pliers to lift the plug up and re-install. That worked ok! It just took me 2 hours to figure that one out. lol!
What a difference with the fluid change though. 133,000 Km and feel like newer car shifting, accelerating as well as the paddle shift. I would recommend to do this at a minimum 80Km mark.
I have 20000 km on the last transmission fluid and filter change and i want to change the transmission fluid, should I need to change the transmission filter or i can change the fluid only?
Because it's started shuddering
Def change both! The trans will be filled with debris and the filter gets clogged and that reduces line pressure. Remember there is a lot of fluid still inside the torque converter that you can't drain without a power flush. If it shudders a little bit after you change it, you might have to change it again a second time. Give it 1000 miles or so to see if it gets better. Hope it works out for you! 🙏
@@sstressfl thanks bro i appreciate your help 🙏
@mohannadqawasmi4450 Merry Christmas 🙏
Which oil is better for transmission acdelco or mobil1?
You’ll find the factory spec oil works just fine as long as you change it regularly. The Mobil was created specifically for the 8 speed to help better protect against shudder problems but it tends to be pricier.
Thank youuuu
I have 2017 ATS 110K miles on it and it shudders so bad. Giving it some more gas in a sudden it feels like the whole car turned off then back on, that's how bad it is! Help!
You need a transmission fluid flush and new filter. That’s the typical fix.
@@sstressfl what about slipping? It feels more like slipping and I'm really unable to drive the car in some conditions
@@rayanzaxoy6671 I'm really sorry to hear it :( The 8 speed is a sad sad transmisison. Usually it just needs a flush due to the contaminants. But sometimes there is damage. Here is some history: www.cadillacforums.com/threads/gm-8-speed-transmission.1085934/ Hope it helps.
I actually have to change the transmission fluid on my 2014 ats as well. Your vid is super helpful
I was thinking of putting it up on ramps as well, but what’s the lift height on the jack you used in order to put the ramps under the tire?
Thank you! And my jack lifts about 18-19 inches. Its a fullsize 3 ton jack.
@@sstressfl
I just did the transmission fluid change. It was a bit intimidating at first, but I got it done and was easy. My fluid was dark red, still in decent shape. But I still changed it anyways including the filter.
Again thanks for the video. It really helped a lot!
@@Kevin_13616 Thats great! It really isnt so bad, but def intimidating at first. The more ya do the less mystery and things get easier :) Thanks for the update! Glad the vid helped.
Great video, I have the exact same car and I’m having the same problem but every place I ask them to change my transmission fluid they tell me it’s a bad idea 🤷♂️. How is the vehicle after the fluid change? I really run my ats hard and I really would love more performance.
Any advice?
Typically the fix for 6 speed shudder is trans fluid and filter flush. Sometimes (but more rarely) the torque converter needs to be changed. The manufacturer recommends fluid and filter change at 45k miles. After I changed mine it made a huge difference but not 100% perfect. Eventually the dealer used a proper flush to replace 100% of the fluid and that is what finally fixed it. I hope that helps.
If any place shy's away from a flush its because they will refuse responsibility if ur car stops shifting. They will tell you they warned you.. but in reality what they dont tell you.. is a flush could possibly ( break loose material caked inside the transmission ) and it will no longer catch gears.. now what the service advisor should've told u is a drain & fill with a replace of gasket & filter isnt the same thing. Thats what u seen in this video. Drain & fill with new filter and gasket.. idk why places dont explain this too customers. Oh plus dealers usually want proof the atf was changed on time usually before claiming responsibility for destroying ur car.. lmao
This is such a great video, I have a 2013 ATS and it’s shuddering really hard. I’m not a car guy at all and a couple places I’ve talked to have said that changing the transmission fluid will actually damage it. Have you ever heard of that??
Yes I have heard that many times. An older high-mileage transmission can develop a bunch of tarnish and gunk inside which actually helps it keep working. Once you put fresh fluid in the trans, it "washes" the transmission and cleans some of the built up varnish and breaks up the gunk which can make the tired old transmission start to slip. However if I was faced with a shudder, I'd change the fluid and filter in a heart beat. I can't stand the shudder. But that's just me. To me its worth the risk. Plus the new trans fluid is synthetic. It doesn't gunk up like the old stuff. It's not my car. But if it was, I would risk it and chase after the fix and start with a fluid and filter change. Just be aware, that you might need to do it 2 or 3 times total to rid your car of all the old fluid. If it doesnt work and it starts to slip real bad, you'll need repairs or a new/used trans. You have to make that judgement call. But again, to me, I'd gamble on the fluid. And spend the money on the repair if I had to.
@@sstressfl good video and advice. I just bought my 2017 ATS and at 60k miles it had the shudder. Didn’t really notice it till after I left the dealership but I just got the transmission and filter change done earlier this evening. So far the shudder seems to be a little less but maybe it just needs time to circulate. We’ll see but good suggestion on the shudder regardless
@@xCaRnRAGEx Hey that's great! It should feel better with a pan drop change but that torque converter holds about 50% of the fluid so multiple fluid changes/filters are usually required to get it close to perfect. Hope yours gets better! If not, try it again. Hard to get all of the steel out. Did you get a chance to see the old fluid? The old filter? Did it look like mine?
how do i check the oil level after i pump the new oil in?
I measured what I drained out of mine and put back the same amount. But if you need to check the level, this should help! www.cadillacforums.com/threads/changing-transmission-fluid-2014-ats-2-0l.1094535/
I enjoy so much yor videos; but putting fres oil, remove the shutter on your car, I have that shutter too on my Cadillac ATS 2016, it is still on waranty?.....i am thinking bring my car to the dealer hear in Montreal Canada....thanks for you advises...I am waiting for ...I am learnig a lot with your videos..thank you
You have a 2016! That's the 8 speed transmission that is covered under the lawsuit. If you are still under warranty, they should do the fluid flush on your transmission per GMs instructions free of charge. Give them a call :)
Thank you Michael for your advises, I appreciate your comments...I'm going to see GM'S dealer this tusday.
@@ramonpulido4718 I am curious to hear about your experiences! My best to you 🙏
Thanks for making this video. I will be changing my ATS transmission fluid early tomorrow hopefully everything works out great. Question do I let the vehicle sit after I change it or could I just crank it immediately when I'm done?
I started mine as soon as I got it back on the ground. I let it idle for awhile to warm up a little then went for a drive :) It was VASTLY improved!
Awww. Maaannnnn.big difference 👍🏻.thanks again for this vid. Keep'em coming. Lol
I actually did it the same way you did.. I sat the car on my rhino ramps and then I went to work..it takes a while but I got the job done thanks.
@@lucilamartinez2220 that’s great news 👍🙏 And it feels even better when you do it yourself, right? 😁
So true..
I've got a 2014 ATS 3.6 with about 40k and I recently started noticing the shudder. Dealer would charge $400 so I'm going with your method. Thanks for the information. BTW sometimes to get my A/C to blow cold I have to tap the temp control all the way to HI and back to LO. I cannot find any info on this and the dealership is at a loss but they did change out expansion tube / valve and condenser which helped the overall problem of not cooling at all. any ideas....thanks again RRW
I’m guessing the blend door actuator is malfunctioning. It’s behind your glove box. I would remove the glove box and take a look to see if it’s working right. Hope you can fix it!
@@sstressfl thanks!
Harbor freight cracked me up 😂 I have a 2018 CTS with a harsh 1-2 shifting. Cadillac wants to charge me $1,800 for a flush, filter change and transmission reprogram. I will do the flush and filter change myself hopefully it fixes the issue! 🙏🏻
lol only because you understand 😂 uhhg how did fluid changes get so scary expensive? The pan drop and filter change should give you a huge improvement. But about 50% of the old fluid is still in the torque converter so I have read that GM recommends 3 pan drops and filter changes (with driving in between) total to clean it out enough for normal operation. That can be annoying but just be ready to do it again if you need to 👍 such gorgeous and enjoyable cars to drive. I pray your transmission is smooth after your first pan drop 🙏 Thanks for sharing!
@@sstressflyeah definitely annoying to have to do it 3x, how long should I wait to do it the 2nd and 3rd?
But yes definitely agree, beautiful cars I love everything about my CTS the worst part is just that hard shift into 2nd gear. Makes me wanna get rid of the damn car 😂 I’m going to do my first fluid change this weekend.
@@wolfkixs9022 Well, see if the fluid change helps. If it makes a change then you know that is the issue. Then if its still harsh shifting or starts getting worse again, 1-2k miles later, do it again. Or you can have someone power flush it. Praying you get it resolved 🙏 I can still feel the angst I had while owning that car.
@@sstressfl thanks for the quick replies man! I wanna do the fill myself but I’m debating on just taking it to a shop and having them flush it out completely. I’m on a couple Cadillac pages on Facebook and a GM tech commented saying a flush is required to “fix” the shifting. Cadillac had quoted me $600 for a flush only, but I assume any shop can do the flush right?
@@wolfkixs9022after I changed my fluid it was way better. But not 100% fixed. When I was at the dealer for an unrelated warranty repair I told the tech that the trans was still shuddering. He fixed it. He told me he did nothing. I later found out he wasn’t supposed to fix it under warranty. But another tech told me he did a flush. And there were software updates for the trans. So can any shop do it? No. I have read about shops that mess it up. So wherever you take it make sure they have a solid reputation 💪🙏 But the flush should fix it.
any leaks with reusing the pan gasket?
None at all. The thing is tough!!
@@sstressfl thanks
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How much would you estimate this particular project ran you for in regards to price ?
$60 for fluid (I bought the expensive stuff) and $11 for the fluid pump.