@ShadowDenLifting - Thanks for the info. Just to clarify, I'm not talking 25% at a point but along the ENTIRE length of the river. If you take 5% at say, using your example at Lees Ferry, then that would leave 20% left for taking at other points along the river. Do you see a problem with such a regulation?
@@wildcatbungalo Absolutely I have worked on this river, in many different ways. Rancher and U.S.Fish Wildlife water craft operator and a raft guide up and down the Co river since 1974. I’ve seen the tributary’s and the Colorado full and overtopping the dams in early eighties.The Grand Canyon so high,you did eighteen miles in three hours to today where it’s hard to irrigate or get the blade of your oar in the water. It comes down to GREED by all of us. If we want to eat and drink clear clean water, we have to do something quick and together. Thank you for your time.
I personally think if you want to live in an arid environment you should not be allowed to water grass it is such a total waste of resources to take water away from a beautiful mountain stream to water some yuppy's lawn or lawns around buinesses. Its bullshit if you wanna have a lush irrigated lawn live in an area with rainfall.
25% of the 1922 flows at Lees Ferry, AZ would be 5,620 cfs (11,148 acre feet). That is enough for an additional 30-33k new homes). Population growth in Grand Junction was 39,956 people between 1980 and 2009. Using 2009 household to poulation numbers there were 2.35 people per household. That translates to 863 households in 1980 and 17,865 households in 2009. Half of the water "available". This does not take into the considerable growth at ski towns, or uses that occurred in 1922.
Sadly,people don’t care or understand what consequences are for using and overusing their water. It’s irresponsible at best.Nice informative video, but very few care, sad but the truth.
@wildcatbungalo Lees Ferry is the monitoring point for the Colorado River Compact. It shows the amount of water that left Colorado. Therefore, at that point a 25% reduction would be seen, but further up maybe only a 5% decrease? A question of equity would arise, but the problem is really identifying the needs of the ecosystem and weighing them against development. Who are we to tell others they can't live here and enjoy a quality of life they would like to live. Conservation is happening
At Lincoln creek on independence pass at times 1/3 to 1/2 of the river is diverted to the front range and 28% of the blue is diverted to the front range. It’s a large amount of water, I’m not against sharing, but as you said at what detriment to the river? This is the question we must face and answer.
The Platte and Nebraska are down-gradient. Most of lawn watering recharges anyway. What might be of concern (I'm ONLY an observer from Arizona . . . don't know) is spatial management . . . what's happening with sewage treated water? I was told elsewhere that Denver's (east side of the Divide) draft was no as much as this video implies.
Denver Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, California and we have already taken the water away from Mexico. The knee jerk reaction is to stop watering Landscape to save 60%, yet we don't even consider stopping population growth in the region. Problem is not solved. America the once great country.
We need a law that will allow no more than 25% complete diversion of a river along its length and no more than 50% may be temporarily diverted by dams per dam site - rivers must be allowed to flow! Also the law should stipulate that a rivers water cannot be transported outside of its watershed and drainage area.
@SuperWilyum Clueless people everywhere should become more enlightened. However, a correctly phrased question also helps people to respond properly. My water comes from a faucet, but the source of the water is wells (I don't live in Denver). If you have ever been "interviewed" , I am sure you realize that questions are asked to get the response people want to get and excerpts are made to highlight those. Don't judge other's intelligence by a 3 second bit...who knows what else transgressed.
@ShadowDenLifting Ok. Thanks again for clarifying. As to your points. First come, first served. If they still need water they will simply have to seek it by other means - drill a well. The environment and these ecosystems are too important to mess with. And by diverting too much water the few would-be residents are diminishing the resource for everyone who would like to utilize it. This nations rivers belong to us all which makes excessive impoundments and diversions unacceptable.
@ if there’s water in the river there is groundwater at least in that catchment. Yes, you should not drill wells near rivers as that will drain the water table in that area and dewater rivers as well. Overall, a well is a better option in a suitable place than the destruction of damming rivers by far.
Having run out of characters... There is a HUGE issue with landscaping and water usage. Kentucky Blue Grass is a water hog for no good reason. Most golf courses here now use their own, recycled water. We need to do something and be smart, but Denver isn't the big bad boy here, nor is the Front Range... water flows downhill, and the states mentioned actually have "dibs" if you will on OUR water rights. It's a major issue. Not an easy one to solve...
@@grsdrm33 Your statement about water running downhill is not correct in the sense. In which much water has been diverted from the western slope to the front range. Nobody has (clean) hands when it comes to our rivers.
Well, this is going to get worse. The "progressives" continue to champion high-density housing. We've been blessed with very high snow packs. It's only when the drought comes that those fools are going to realize that their good intentions have disastrous consequences. Fools.
The trouble with a video like this is the limit of scope... Water rights are a hotly debated and serious issue here in Colorado. There is a separate water courts system to deal with all the legal issues of water rights and access. Denver isn't the sole problem. Im sick of the "big, bad, big city, big corp... whatever being the bad guy in these types of vids. The REALITY is water flow doesn't just end in Denver. Where do you think states like Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas etc get THIER water?
If Denver didnt need so much water then they would use water that naturally flows their direction off the Continental divide not divert water that goes naturally to other states. Its foolish to blame the states you just did because they are relying on water that naturally flow their direction off the continental divide into the Mississippi river drainage area. This video is saying it is stupid to divert water that should go to the southwestern states against its natural flow into Denver and the Front Range to water grass, and other urban water intensive practices. I am by no means a tree hugger type but I think that the big cities that are in arid environments, especially with populations on the rise, are going to have to do their part to reduce water use so naturally flowing waters dont have to be diverted for foolish uses. I live in Eastern Kansas and there is more water here than the population could ever think of using but arid areas are a completely different thing. Kansas City for example does not have to divert water from anybody to have more than plenty.
Great video !!
@ShadowDenLifting - Thanks for the info. Just to clarify, I'm not talking 25% at a point but along the ENTIRE length of the river. If you take 5% at say, using your example at Lees Ferry, then that would leave 20% left for taking at other points along the river. Do you see a problem with such a regulation?
@@wildcatbungalo Absolutely I have worked on this river, in many different ways. Rancher and U.S.Fish Wildlife water craft operator and a raft guide up and down the Co river since 1974. I’ve seen the tributary’s and the Colorado full and overtopping the dams in early eighties.The Grand Canyon so high,you did eighteen miles in three hours to today where it’s hard to irrigate or get the blade of your oar in the water. It comes down to GREED by all of us. If we want to eat and drink clear clean water, we have to do something quick and together. Thank you for your time.
I personally think if you want to live in an arid environment you should not be allowed to water grass it is such a total waste of resources to take water away from a beautiful mountain stream to water some yuppy's lawn or lawns around buinesses. Its bullshit if you wanna have a lush irrigated lawn live in an area with rainfall.
I'm curious how is it now esp. w/ our current issues? I hope better now. if so, I'm presuming this can/should get more views.
25% of the 1922 flows at Lees Ferry, AZ would be 5,620 cfs (11,148 acre feet). That is enough for an additional 30-33k new homes). Population growth in Grand Junction was 39,956 people between 1980 and 2009. Using 2009 household to poulation numbers there were 2.35 people per household. That translates to 863 households in 1980 and 17,865 households in 2009. Half of the water "available". This does not take into the considerable growth at ski towns, or uses that occurred in 1922.
Sadly,people don’t care or understand what consequences are for using and overusing their water. It’s irresponsible at best.Nice informative video, but very few care, sad but the truth.
@wildcatbungalo Lees Ferry is the monitoring point for the Colorado River Compact. It shows the amount of water that left Colorado. Therefore, at that point a 25% reduction would be seen, but further up maybe only a 5% decrease? A question of equity would arise, but the problem is really identifying the needs of the ecosystem and weighing them against development. Who are we to tell others they can't live here and enjoy a quality of life they would like to live. Conservation is happening
At Lincoln creek on independence pass at times 1/3 to 1/2 of the river is diverted to the front range and 28% of the blue is diverted to the front range. It’s a large amount of water, I’m not against sharing, but as you said at what detriment to the river? This is the question we must face and answer.
Sadly,people don’t care or understand what consequences are,for using and overusing their water. It’s irresponsible at best.
The Platte and Nebraska are down-gradient. Most of lawn watering recharges anyway. What might be of concern (I'm ONLY an observer from Arizona . . . don't know) is spatial management . . . what's happening with sewage treated water? I was told elsewhere that Denver's (east side of the Divide) draft was no as much as this video implies.
Sewage is treated in Grand Junction, and returned to the river.
Denver Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, California and we have already taken the water away from Mexico. The knee jerk reaction is to stop watering Landscape to save 60%, yet we don't even consider stopping population growth in the region. Problem is not solved. America the once great country.
Democrats are still trying as hard as possible to Import Mexicans by the Millions....they want more Undocumented Democrats at any cost....
@@harrykuheim6107Thanks for going completely off topic.
We need a law that will allow no more than 25% complete diversion of a river along its length and no more than 50% may be temporarily diverted by dams per dam site - rivers must be allowed to flow! Also the law should stipulate that a rivers water cannot be transported outside of its watershed and drainage area.
@@wildcatbungalo Or sold to Foreign countries or entities.
@SuperWilyum
Clueless people everywhere should become more enlightened. However, a correctly phrased question also helps people to respond properly. My water comes from a faucet, but the source of the water is wells (I don't live in Denver). If you have ever been "interviewed" , I am sure you realize that questions are asked to get the response people want to get and excerpts are made to highlight those. Don't judge other's intelligence by a 3 second bit...who knows what else transgressed.
@ShadowDenLifting Ok. Thanks again for clarifying. As to your points. First come, first served. If they still need water they will simply have to seek it by other means - drill a well. The environment and these ecosystems are too important to mess with. And by diverting too much water the few would-be residents are diminishing the resource for everyone who would like to utilize it. This nations rivers belong to us all which makes excessive impoundments and diversions unacceptable.
You can not drill wells, with a drought. There will be no ground water. If it is not replenished by rain.
@ if there’s water in the river there is groundwater at least in that catchment. Yes, you should not drill wells near rivers as that will drain the water table in that area and dewater rivers as well. Overall, a well is a better option in a suitable place than the destruction of damming rivers by far.
BLOW IT UP!
@@AngeliqueKaga We all wish, but most likely will never happen.We have to share, it’s the law Hayduke!
Having run out of characters... There is a HUGE issue with landscaping and water usage. Kentucky Blue Grass is a water hog for no good reason. Most golf courses here now use their own, recycled water. We need to do something and be smart, but Denver isn't the big bad boy here, nor is the Front Range... water flows downhill, and the states mentioned actually have "dibs" if you will on OUR water rights. It's a major issue. Not an easy one to solve...
@@grsdrm33 Your statement about water running downhill is not correct in the sense. In which much water has been diverted from the western slope to the front range. Nobody has (clean) hands when it comes to our rivers.
Well, this is going to get worse. The "progressives" continue to champion high-density housing. We've been blessed with very high snow packs. It's only when the drought comes that those fools are going to realize that their good intentions have disastrous consequences. Fools.
my zinc??? LOL.
@@melijaje06 ?
California took away our gun rights I would say let's take away golfing and swimming pool and you can see how much water we can all save
@@rodneyjohnston6280 Not how it works and never will. If that was the case , the nations people and the nation of Mexico would have it all.
But Rich Democrats and Hollywood Actors need that water for their Swimming Pools !
The trouble with a video like this is the limit of scope... Water rights are a hotly debated and serious issue here in Colorado. There is a separate water courts system to deal with all the legal issues of water rights and access. Denver isn't the sole problem. Im sick of the "big, bad, big city, big corp... whatever being the bad guy in these types of vids. The REALITY is water flow doesn't just end in Denver. Where do you think states like Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas etc get THIER water?
If Denver didnt need so much water then they would use water that naturally flows their direction off the Continental divide not divert water that goes naturally to other states. Its foolish to blame the states you just did because they are relying on water that naturally flow their direction off the continental divide into the Mississippi river drainage area. This video is saying it is stupid to divert water that should go to the southwestern states against its natural flow into Denver and the Front Range to water grass, and other urban water intensive practices. I am by no means a tree hugger type but I think that the big cities that are in arid environments, especially with populations on the rise, are going to have to do their part to reduce water use so naturally flowing waters dont have to be diverted for foolish uses. I live in Eastern Kansas and there is more water here than the population could ever think of using but arid areas are a completely different thing. Kansas City for example does not have to divert water from anybody to have more than plenty.
@@grsdrm33 North Platte, an Arkansas River,
@@jarredleis16 Nobody is blaming anybody, we all are guilty of over use. Like it or not we all have to face facts.
@@jarredleis16 And a lot of the front range and California is moving to the west slope. It’s just a fact.
Until immigration stops along with having babies this will continue.
😂water comes from sink....... lol