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Thank you for this Build. I had not played Thief in a long time, but this review, sparked a new lease of life in me, I have to say Spear Thief is now my favourite and its all down to you.
nice, I just leveled up my thief to 80 today and am satisfied to play core for now. I have a full ascended set with trapper runes on my hunter so just borrowed that set for a secondary set. I had already set up a cheap power Nika set with included Infiltrator runes when I hit 80 so now I have two to try out. I like spear with secondary pistol/dagger for a bit of range. I'll probably get Relic of Fractal temp until I get Blightbringer on second map. Always fun to try new things! Thanks friend
Something i noticed because I like using quickness personally, if you have quickness and are using the stealth, sometimes because your auto attacking so quickly, it will attack without realizing you went into stealth, so its just a normal attack and will reveal you unfortunately. I tried fixing it in the options but looking it up shared that you can cancel auto attack of any skill apparently by ctrl+right click any skill apparently. It's shown to be on or off by the little arrow circling the skill like the 1 skill right there with the arrow on top of the box. it will go away if you turn off auto attack and its saving me so much headache. hope this helps some of ya'll using quickness too!
As someone who only uses your ONE BUILD for all on thief. This build is really nice, I'm kinda using berserkers with mara acess stats for the time being and it's still a great open world build.
Ive been running quickness condi deadeye. Just spamming 2 will give you solo dps bursts up to 30k and 20k sustained. edit: just switched to full viper and i reach solo burst of 35k and 30k sustain
Alternative runes? Trapper has to be crafted, it is Account bound and resources are kinda expensive. I would say Afflicted is good cheap variant. Or Krait, this one is not cheap too. Otherwise nice build, all clear, fun to play with it.
Thief spear is so good P.S. But honestly, Spear Quickness Deadeye build is not that bad either. A bit of a piano if you wanna try hard, but still has plenty of sustain, boons and team utility
i tried to do a more complex rotation, but its so hard to keep track of where i am in the rotation because theres so little difference between each part, but messing it up is very bad lol
@@Vallun I dunno, the core 3-2-3-4-2-3 combo I found fairly easy to memorize, then F2 (or utility > F2) for a stealth attack whenever you run out of initiative -- and this is basically it. Memorizing lead attack icons and animations helped a lot to keep track too, but you already mention this in the video :D
I`m not so familiar with thief, so thanks a lot for sharing. I`ll give this build a try. Is this build more effective or easier to handle than the ""spector thief" from your "most fum ow spearr builds" video (25. August 2024) for a not so thief experienced player like me? The only thief build I like so far is WoodenPotatoes OW "pew-pew pistol deadeye" build published long ago.
Oh nice, i was thinking a core thief build might have aome advantages for the spear. Im wondering for the utilities if it wouldn't be good to use a couple of your strealth skills instead to make use of all the traits that benefit from going into and out of stealth? Plug in shadow refuge/blinding powder/smoke screen and you still have stun break, projectile hate, and maximize all the benefits from the Shadow Arts traitline. Also do you think you could gain any damage by using relic of the Fractal, so you are applying 2 new condition types and thus getting a boost from the Exposed Weakness trait (cause 2 moreunique condis) or do you feel like you lose damage by missing out on the Poison damage that comes from the blightbringer relic? This spear just has so much sustain i feel inclined to try and squeeze every drop of dps out of it because it barely needs any help tanking through damage...i was running relic of Atrocity and the life steal is just insane but I'm just wondering of there are ways to eek out more dps...
yea those can work, but i like the mobility more than the stealth because i can always get stealth if im next to something, i cant always use my sneak attack if im in stealth. I havent tested the difference in dps between those two relics, but blight gives more weakness and therefore more sustain so i went with that
JW vet+ mobs.... need to be able to deal with 99 condi stacks that drop on and all around you... it's like Anet are saying "in JW, range or die"... Also, need to avoid quickness or run without auto-attack.. until (IF!) they fix the stealth breaking mess. Watching the UI is just ughhhhh, especially when you need to watch for the swarms of multi-direction CC and condi AOEs in JW.. tho I'm probably too old and slow and should stick to PP spam 😅
I feel this build is yielding around 16k on golem. am i doing something wrong? @Vallum? (im not autocasting, doing strighgt rotatioln as you say and full legie gear)
@@KokkeOP i have never gotten 20k with a build designed for open world, that is a build that self buffs and has survivability. 10-15k are more realistic numbers
i can't get this to work. I get instantly unstealthed before i can do the 1 skill after the 3 skill stealths me. Edit: Seems to always happen with quickness. Other boons don't cause this to happen.
yea its only quickness, but this is because your 1 skill auto queues before you enter stealth, whereas without quickness your 1 skill flips over before it can engage the auto. ctrl right click your 1 skill so it doesnt auto cast and you should be fine
I mean you can but the whole point of this is to be able to take advantage of the 3 main Thief trait trees to optimize potential for this build. If you take one out you're going to lose something.
you should be more careful where you are getting your information, theres no nerf to celestial in pve only in wvw so this and many other builds are untouched
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This is the one I've been waiting for the most. Thanks mate, excited to dive into this.
Thank you for this Build. I had not played Thief in a long time, but this review, sparked a new lease of life in me, I have to say Spear Thief is now my favourite and its all down to you.
nice, I just leveled up my thief to 80 today and am satisfied to play core for now. I have a full ascended set with trapper runes on my hunter so just borrowed that set for a secondary set. I had already set up a cheap power Nika set with included Infiltrator runes when I hit 80 so now I have two to try out. I like spear with secondary pistol/dagger for a bit of range. I'll probably get Relic of Fractal temp until I get Blightbringer on second map. Always fun to try new things! Thanks friend
Something i noticed because I like using quickness personally, if you have quickness and are using the stealth, sometimes because your auto attacking so quickly, it will attack without realizing you went into stealth, so its just a normal attack and will reveal you unfortunately. I tried fixing it in the options but looking it up shared that you can cancel auto attack of any skill apparently by ctrl+right click any skill apparently. It's shown to be on or off by the little arrow circling the skill like the 1 skill right there with the arrow on top of the box. it will go away if you turn off auto attack and its saving me so much headache. hope this helps some of ya'll using quickness too!
As someone who only uses your ONE BUILD for all on thief. This build is really nice, I'm kinda using berserkers with mara acess stats for the time being and it's still a great open world build.
Ive been running quickness condi deadeye. Just spamming 2 will give you solo dps bursts up to 30k and 20k sustained.
edit: just switched to full viper and i reach solo burst of 35k and 30k sustain
Alternative runes? Trapper has to be crafted, it is Account bound and resources are kinda expensive. I would say Afflicted is good cheap variant. Or Krait, this one is not cheap too. Otherwise nice build, all clear, fun to play with it.
krait is fine
Thief spear is so good
P.S. But honestly, Spear Quickness Deadeye build is not that bad either. A bit of a piano if you wanna try hard, but still has plenty of sustain, boons and team utility
i tried to do a more complex rotation, but its so hard to keep track of where i am in the rotation because theres so little difference between each part, but messing it up is very bad lol
@@Vallun I dunno, the core 3-2-3-4-2-3 combo I found fairly easy to memorize, then F2 (or utility > F2) for a stealth attack whenever you run out of initiative -- and this is basically it.
Memorizing lead attack icons and animations helped a lot to keep track too, but you already mention this in the video :D
@@eldrevo yea its mostly having quickness that makes things much more difficult, less time to focus on animations
@@Vallun not to mention quickness makes it easier to reveal yourself and mess up the ambush :D
cool build, seems like it could be used as a tank for raids
wouldnt specter also work well? wells for mobility and quickness with chrono runes
I`m not so familiar with thief, so thanks a lot for sharing. I`ll give this build a try. Is this build more effective or easier to handle than the ""spector thief" from your "most fum ow spearr builds" video (25. August 2024) for a not so thief experienced player like me? The only thief build I like so far is WoodenPotatoes OW "pew-pew pistol deadeye" build published long ago.
this should be better more powerful than the specter build, but that one is still fun
@@Vallun ah, ok, thanks for your response ... best wishes
Love it.. gonna try it
Nice!! ^^ Is there good wvw roaming build with spear for thief?
if you use this build but replace deadly arts with daredevil for fast movement, it should work ok
@@Vallun Thanks a lot!.. I will try it ^^
Thanks!
Oh nice, i was thinking a core thief build might have aome advantages for the spear.
Im wondering for the utilities if it wouldn't be good to use a couple of your strealth skills instead to make use of all the traits that benefit from going into and out of stealth? Plug in shadow refuge/blinding powder/smoke screen and you still have stun break, projectile hate, and maximize all the benefits from the Shadow Arts traitline.
Also do you think you could gain any damage by using relic of the Fractal, so you are applying 2 new condition types and thus getting a boost from the Exposed Weakness trait (cause 2 moreunique condis) or do you feel like you lose damage by missing out on the Poison damage that comes from the blightbringer relic?
This spear just has so much sustain i feel inclined to try and squeeze every drop of dps out of it because it barely needs any help tanking through damage...i was running relic of Atrocity and the life steal is just insane but I'm just wondering of there are ways to eek out more dps...
yea those can work, but i like the mobility more than the stealth because i can always get stealth if im next to something, i cant always use my sneak attack if im in stealth. I havent tested the difference in dps between those two relics, but blight gives more weakness and therefore more sustain so i went with that
Impressive gameplay. o7
This is acutally hard. I am for a second in stealth then auto attack hits and I am out. any tips?
turn off auto attack by ctrl right clicking the 1 skill so you have to manually use it, that will allow you to wait for the skill to flip over
what would you use, if you don't have access to sigil of blight?
torment or bursting
JW vet+ mobs.... need to be able to deal with 99 condi stacks that drop on and all around you... it's like Anet are saying "in JW, range or die"...
Also, need to avoid quickness or run without auto-attack.. until (IF!) they fix the stealth breaking mess.
Watching the UI is just ughhhhh, especially when you need to watch for the swarms of multi-direction CC and condi AOEs in JW.. tho I'm probably too old and slow and should stick to PP spam 😅
Nice core thief 😁
I feel this build is yielding around 16k on golem. am i doing something wrong? @Vallum? (im not autocasting, doing strighgt rotatioln as you say and full legie gear)
whats the issue with 16k dps? are you comparing to full glass cannon builds with pocket heals and boons?
@@Vallun nah. Just wondering if it was able to reach 20k on OW with this build.
@@KokkeOP i have never gotten 20k with a build designed for open world, that is a build that self buffs and has survivability. 10-15k are more realistic numbers
i can't get this to work. I get instantly unstealthed before i can do the 1 skill after the 3 skill stealths me.
Edit: Seems to always happen with quickness. Other boons don't cause this to happen.
yea its only quickness, but this is because your 1 skill auto queues before you enter stealth, whereas without quickness your 1 skill flips over before it can engage the auto. ctrl right click your 1 skill so it doesnt auto cast and you should be fine
I think this weapon is abit busted. U can actually solo alot of stuff just by pressing 3 on the spear.....
Well, most spears are overtuned so people buy the expansion. Obviously
Busted.. The dps blows ass
An soulbeast can solo at 34k
This build can do like 11-12K max on solo, average around 7-8K
@@pppp-dm4cj show me Soulbeast solo fractal tier 4 with 34k dps please
Did u ever played pistol pistol thief?
Can this be adapted into daredevil?
I mean you can but the whole point of this is to be able to take advantage of the 3 main Thief trait trees to optimize potential for this build. If you take one out you're going to lose something.
Will this still be good after the celestial nerf?
you should be more careful where you are getting your information, theres no nerf to celestial in pve only in wvw so this and many other builds are untouched
thanx
That's why I stopped playing this game classes don't feel like classes anymore soon thief will wield greatsword 😑