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One week after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down in eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 people onboard, authorities have yet to determine for certain who was responsible for launching the missile that destroyed the plane. Many Ukrainians, however, are convinced it was the pro-Russia rebels who committed the act of “terrorism;” Russia continues to deny involvement.
VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky is in Kharkiv as the investigation continues. He attends a pro-Ukrainian rally, then travels to the Kharkiv airport, where the bodies of many of the passengers arrive to be sent back to the Netherlands for identification and burial.
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Everybody is fighting in the comment section, so I'm just going to say that that kid in the beginning had a really awesome tiger t-shirt.
You're right. That t-shirt is really awesome.
:O *world war 3 starts*
*world war 3 starts plus infinity*
....ok...I accept the compromise.
Little did that guy saying how much bad Putin has done to Ukraine know... Putin followed it up with so much more pointless suffering.
Simon is a hero. He was even tortured for days by the separatists and he still keeps investigating and bringing out the truth.
Действительно нужно быть храбрым. Но украинская национальная гвардия тоже берёт журналистов в плен. Один парень в плену уже второй раз. Не всем везет как Саймону.
Andrei Bezrodny
а тот парень британец, опять ждать будет пока посольство не вмешается
If someone writing in english, answer in enlgish. Simple?! Dont hide your words in somekind "blaa-blaa code". Be a man and say it like others do that in internet.
No-Name script v2.7 Hard you press "Send"? Two Russian speak Russian, you're interested in our conversations?) Мой английский ужасен)
He is no hero! just the opposite he is a criminal for not reporting on all the men, women, elderly and children the kiev junta has killed! stop following the leader sheep.
May god punish them who took so many lives of innocent people.
God doesn't care
The Russian separatists really went too far with this one and now I believe the tide will turn on Russia. This is an indefensible action so any people commenting on here denigrating the Ukranians are completely out of line. The people responsible for this need to be brought to justice!
If only. Look where we are 7 years later.
Thank you mr. Ostrovsky for showing me this. As a Dutchman I like to know what is happening. I very much appreciate it.
So many Russians here on damage control...
@Marcus Aurelius Actually Ukraine is doing pretty well and have signed a treaty with the EU. Now look at Russia. I urge you to travel there and drive outside Moscow to witness the poverty there. Dictatorships do not work for the common folk. Yes, we have problems in Democratic countries, but those problems are not comparable to the problems in countries like Russia or Belarus.
@Marcus Aurelius Because it has been run by people who were in Russia's pocket since 1991, that's why Maidan happened. Look at their GDP, 4x smaller than Poland, when Ukraine has more people and more land.
3:32 "Leatherlands"
lol, Simon is tired.
I live in the Netherlands and this has a deep effect on all of us.
Please be aware that there are 200 coffins. This does not necesarily mean that there are 200 bodies. Some coffins have more than 1 body, others have only bodyparts. Therefore it is not clear yet how many bodies have been retrieved.
is it clear now?
I live in Indonesia ., and would you dare to ask what has made a deep effect on us?
@@thecoin5394how to make it about myself, and believe me you fucks should be happy some unnamed other countries didnt colonized u.
Im from the netherlands may my fellow dutch rest in peace
I went on the same plane to South Asia I remembered as my I went alone with my dad and my sister asked me questions on WhatsApp so I told her every detail I was shocked I was on the same plane before and I flew over Amsterdam before
Now we know that the Russian 53rd Air Defense Brigade based in Kursk shot down the Malaysian Air flight 17 with a BUK. The reason the BUK was there : Russian armor had proven vulnerable to attack from the air early in the conflict. So the BUKs were brought in to cover for them. After firing it and hitting the MH17, a BUK that had previously been tracked by private investigators at Bellingcat, was shipped back to Russia in a big hurry. Busted!
Anxiously waiting on the next segment. Stay safe Simon and be extremely careful my friend. I realize you have balls of Iron, but those Russians are a tough bunch. Keep yourself well, can't wait for the next update.
By tough bunch do you mean cowards war criminals?
@3:35 the Leatherlands?
God Bless America and Her people.
Death to america
Твоей Америкой - правят лжецы .
Get the ropes people, it's *him* again.
BlackDeath12345 What is wrong? Can someone not say God Bless their own country? Im not sure about you but im saying death to your country which nobody probably even knows the name of. #GoFuckYourself
*****
There's always that one person. Smh. If you didn't mind what he said, why did you have to post that comment? And they say Christians shove beliefs down peoples throats.
5 days and nothing new?
Very sad.
6th Anniverdary of this tragic downing of MAS Boeing 777 Flight MH17 in 2020 ... May the Innocents Blessed to a Better Realm! 🕯
Being a malaysian, and on the recieving end of this, i still believe its wrong to start pointing fingers at any side. Like, the black box isn't even analysed yet!
If anything, MH17 should have ended this war.
Its sad that the ones who suffered the most are talking sensibly
@@ripudamankatoch4647What do you mean lol 197 of the 298 people of that plane were Dutch and here it was fast obvious who should be the one that shot the airplane because the plane came from the West side. Why would Ukraine shoot an airplane coming from the West?. With that Russia did give the Russian seprarists an airstrike weapon.
The airplane spontenously lost connection and they literally found what kind of weapon was used to shot this plain down. Its all proved now by the way
I wish there would be an update from you guys from Ukraine soon. Keep up the good work.
Another convoy of armored vehicles from the territory of the Russian Federation has entered Ukraine (passed through Sukhodilsk, Shoseyna Street).
Early this morning, on July 31, a large convoy of armored vehicles, about 50 units (this is no exaggeration) passed through the town of Sukhodilsk, Luhansk region. According to our local sources, “We haven’t seen anything like this before, convoys have passed through before, but in much smaller numbers.”
Judging from this, we can already say that Russia brought its troops into Ukraine without a declaration of war. In our previous reports, we warned about the urgent need to block the border in the Krasnodon area and the surrounding villages. This should be done not only in the area of the Izvaryne checkpoint where the OSCE representatives may still be present, but also in the villages of Parkhomenko, Popivka, and especially in the village of Sjevernyi.
It is necessary not only to regain control of the highway through the village of Novosvitlivka and Novohannivka (before Luhansk), but also to secure our positions at this locale. A simple checkpoint of Ukrainian Armed Forces / National Guard will not help against such large convoys. This is no longer an ATO, not from a long time ago, but an undeclared war.
Locals express bewilderment and sharply criticize the security command. For a better understanding of the situation, below is the direct speech of one of the locals who daily observes the influx of equipment from the Russian Federation:
“It seems that our top security officials are interested in a protracted massacre since they don’t intend to block this source (note: Sukhodilsk, Sjevernyi, Popivka, and Parkhomenko) of daily passage of equipment from Russia for the third month in a row! This is an endless stream of reinforcements for terrorists! How can we reach and give a shoutout to the top?! We cannot call the phone numbers posted on their websites - they are being wiretapped. People keep writing and warning, but the ministers have zero reaction, and they probably don’t report to the President about such blunders, shaking in their office chairs, while the children are dying! And then they will again wonder where the tanks, APCs, Grads, Acacias, and vehicles with shells and mercenaries come through?!…”
We would like to emphasize immediately that this is not the only message about the equipment convoy consisting of 50 units passing through this area today. Moreover, there is information that this convoy is preparing to attack the ATO forces…
Together we will win! Glory to Ukraine and death to its enemies
May peace come to Netherland, Ukraine, Russia & all over the world. May people around the world be free from suffering like this.
Hopefully the fighting will stop soon. Then after the Ukrainian government has been properly reformed, they could have actual discussions about during a referendum in the regions that want to separate from Ukraine. Then we maybe we can figure out as an international community what the people want, and react accordingly. Although i fear our world is much too entangled in political intrigues for that to happen.
Ukraine government collapsed today...
Sasha Melnikov
I haven't heard about that. You got a link? It would be much appreciated.
LordOfLuck Nothing "collapsed" they want to change parliament and follow the procedure to do so, Sasha is just a usual troll
*****
Hey thanks for the clarification man. If that's all, there should still be some hope this conflict will end relatively quick.
Maryan Hutsul
Well. that's what they should be during, to give the government some sort of legitimacy. Thanks for the heads up mate.
I'm waiting for which Ukrainian Hero will put putin to rest !!
U western guys should better pray that jirinovsky wont come to power. IF THIS HAPPENS ALL OF YOU WILL BE QUIET AS FUCK!
dumm ass lmfaoo. u think im refering to a cigarette when i call putin a faggot. get real idiot
Thanks Simon. I'M your fan and always I look forward on your report. Go Sim Go
Malaysia hasn't had the best year...
I know its 2019, but anyone else that thinks that Putil should go infront of an interntional court marhal?
0:38 is that transformers right behind his head?
This is not the world we dreamt of back in 89.
THIS IS NOT IT!
Sadly fascism causes all kinds of evil.
Watching history in real time.Thank u #VICE
Why is a plain going passing on a conflicted area. That is the real question. Wake up people and question the little things.
cause at the time of accident that flight path was declared safe by aviation authorities. a few other airlines had flown thru countless times before mh17.
Commercial flights fly over conflict zones all the time, it's not an unusual thing to happen. Airlines make decisions on flight plans based on weather conditions and what is the shortest route so they don't waste fuel, thus keeping costs low.
They also have people who do risk assessment, and obviously those people assessed the risk wrong here...
because usually no one has ability to shoot down a plane going at altitude of 10 km.only sophisticated weapon can do this ,most conflict zones dont have this ,so its safe.
LOL This same flight has now been rerouted to go over Syria
Why do people who don't have a brain have a right to comment on TH-cam videos? Wake up people; dumbasses everywhere!
Bullet's don't bring Peace...
PUTLER CAPUT
1:05 that kid is so high.
Glory to Ukraine!
Good to see you reporting yet again Simon!
Where the fuck are all these Kremlin troll bots people keep talking about? All I see are different people with different points of view. So sad that many people can't handle that and have to make up conspiracy theories to justify their own.
God bless humanity
Печально.... Я разочарован в этих людях....
because? it is the truth it was shot down my Russian sepratists. I mean its common sense. Who else would shoot an airplane coming from the West?
Does Jewstrovsky ever shave?
shimon!
I have important things to say but
i'm getting censored by US dictatorship here
Please add the arrow signs to switch videos. They make watching so much more convenient.
United States stated that Russia is firing artillery from its territory across the border positions of Ukrainian troops in Ukraine, thus supporting the pro-Russian separatists in their conflict with Kiev.
We have new evidence that the Russians intend to provide a larger and more powerful multiple-launch rocket artillery separatist forces in Ukraine and we have evidence that Russia is firing artillery from their positions within the Ukrainian army - said during the briefing, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf.
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Putin has a horrible poker face.
Adirondack13 Agree. Putin doesn't have a soul and he is even worse than Stalin
Just like they had evidence of WMDs? So far the only evidence that the US is focused on most is social media claims and some photo of a BUK with driving out of a town that is actually controlled by Ukr. military. Russia has released its satellite images, United States has released pussy shit. That is what it looks like at the moment.
***** The Problem is that I don't believe in satellite image if it exist at all(maybe in russian tv) is fake.
Weea yea moron, except your article is from yesterday, and khodakovsky withdrew his statement today, just sayin you know
You can't believe anything from either side. There are no straight answers anymore. I'm just hoping the fighting ends soon, the innocent civilians caught in the crossfire are the ones who are suffering the most.
Hi guys. Simon, can you please insist on why Ukraine intelligence have confiscated the Air Traffic Control tower recordings? Why wouldn't they release them to the public in full and unmodified?
The cockpit data won't be released because of the EU regulation 996/2010 art. 14 so this won't help any of us.
Thank you!
It didn't crash it was shot down.There is a difference. Get it right!
vice propoganda...
Crawl back to RT, troll
Russia is a terrorist state colluding with separatists
The real story is Simon showing some chest...
I don't understand why this blamed on Putin and Russia for terrorism when this really should be blamed on the Ukraine government for their inability to communicate and come to a solution with their own people.
I doubt the fighting will stop over a plane.
Anyone remember when Russia said "Show me the proof! There is no proof that we have missals in Cuba!!" how did that turn out for russia?! hahahaha looks like they didn't learn ....once a lier always a lier ;)
wow such arguments. Hey remember WMD in irak? So where are they?
Same shit.over and over. Fuck putin and fuck the west as well. Neither side is good both are bad.
R.i.p
vice=propoganda
RussiaToday = Propaganda. We just can't win. :p
Whatever u say rusky
why does the reporter always talks about or cover the ucranian version of things?
Zombies! Definitely the one to blame Putin, and not a country, leading the most aggressive military point of view policy. America is the most friendly country by far!)))))
Another polluted comment section... sad to read.
from what my gov says its sending over our troops to watch over the search and investigators (AUS)
I heard rumors that *Netherlands* would probably be sending some in as well, because the separatist don't want to cooperate and want to do whatever the fk they please. Bless em may they keep themselves safe.
RIP 😢So sad, you were only 17 years old.
I like how Simon never ever mentions the Right Sektor battalions in the national guard...
Edit: Found a delete button I think I might use it lol
Never ever....he has mentioned them many times before. Start from episode 1 and you will see.
Dicio Ive been watching since episode one. I have seen him interview Donbas battalion..but they are the more moderate nationalist battalions...Did he ever cover the Azov battalion..the guys who started shooting civilians in Mauripol.
america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/24/ukraine-azov-battalion.html
This is serious...Please I may be wrong on him mentioning the fact that these men are on the frontline. (This is not my only source) but if he did please link me Id like to see it :D
Sheep King Well your original complaint was he didn't mention right sector. I can recall he has mentioned them many times when they made headlines. I don't know what exact battalion he was talking about or even with. VICE has shown a kidnapping of a local politician and armed takeover of a police station by probable pro-kiev radicals so I don't think they are exactly hiding. Their views and idea is to let the people do the talking. They are simply where anything big is happening.
Dicio I just saw that video, guessed I missed an episode :/
Well, i take it back...but it just seems as if..he doesnt do enough to bring attention to it..dunno..
Sheep King Well you should check out other Simon's documentaries. In one he goes to Russia in search of North Korean wood cutting camps (yes they do exist, in Russia). During this documentary he drank, shot a shotgun with a local mafia member to deter local North Korean security forces and illegally broke into private land with an ex-police officer. He is quite a good on-field investigator reporter who does things his way.
I don't think there is an emphasis on right sector as the right sector as far as I am aware haven't really done anything serious after the people burning in Odessa, he is trying to reach major happenings near the front lines and front line cities in most cases, like we see currently he filmed the plane crash situation. He did do stories or references to right sector when they were somewhere supposedly in action. Nowardays you don't really hear what the right sector is doing. Mostly it is UA as right sector really don't have any means to fight separatist tanks, hard grade weapons.
Funny how fighting separatists is apparently ok in Chechnya, but bad in Ukraine.
do you see that girl on the right @ 1:16 my god please come be my mail order whife
lol thirsty?
for her yes..have you seen those ukrainian russian porns?? these fine as shit girls do anything you want with out bitchin
Simon, it's not yours to chase for popular story. You are much better at finding astonishing stories on the ground.
thank you Russia for everything now there are allot of sad and crying people that lost family or friends, RIP all the people of MH-17
Ukraine should be an entry talks with Manager and pilot it is stored for 3 days , where she????, Why no one claimed??
Почему же очкарик не взял интервью у людей, наблюдавших за митингом со стороны?)) опять же, эти vice news, показывают только то, что хозяин канала хотел бы видеть...
Why are all waiting until you decode the black boxes of the aircraft ? This information is recorded and terrestrial services namely Manager of Ukraine, why don't they give this entry????
15 000 000 000 $ ужасное горе? Как же вы живёте с таким грузом, бедненькие...
Yes under 25
Thank goodness for the Dutch.
Do not be surprised by the Slavs that Russian Ukrainians that when they want to insult a person strongly say - Yes, he is worse than Hitler !!! It is clear that it is not just him who will be hard to beat. I know for myself from Odessa Ukraine
No War between Nations! Only Class War.
I blame those who allowed a civilian plane to fly over a war zone.
Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17/MAS17)[a] was a scheduled passenger flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur that was shot down by Russian-controlled forces[4][5][6][7] on 17 July 2014, while flying over eastern Ukraine. All 283 passengers and 15 crew were killed.[8] Contact with the aircraft, a Boeing 777-200ER, was lost when it was about 50 km (31 mi) from the Ukraine-Russia border, and wreckage from the aircraft fell near Hrabove in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine, 40 km (25 mi) from the border.[9] The shoot-down occurred during the war in Donbas over territory controlled by Russian separatist forces.[10]
TOO SOON??
There're good people on both sides of the battle, and there're bad on both. No matter who wins there will still be evil within them.
Those that don't jump are moscuvites. Heil our heroes, heil ukraine. These are the same slogans used by Bandera supporters and those Ukrainians that met the German army with flowers and pies. So, why are people surprised that Russians call them Nazis? After all half of Ukraine embraced the nazis and the other half fought them, just as they are fighting them now in Donbass region. People on here have no clue to Ukrainian history except that of Wikipedia and most don't even read that all the way. Ukraine is three different regions of outskirts of empires. Ukraine means "outskirts" of something. It was never a country until 1993. Ukraine is Galicia, Malorossya (kiev), and Novorossya (The area where the rebels are fighting now). Galicia was always anti-Russian as it was raped and has mentality of slaves to empires for 700 years. Astro-hungarian empire made up the current ukrainian language for the Galicians and they have been trying to spread this to the rest of ukraine. Out of the 50 million people less than 2 million supported Maidan. All their problems stem from the fact that Galicia is too different than malorossya and especially novorossya. The Junta Kiev government has Galician mentality and they are trying to spread this on completely different thinking people in the east.
Netherlands!!! not frecking Holland! :(
It's really getting boring with Vice one sided reporting on this.
May the truthful God of Light protect a True Leader...
Simon is ruining VICE's reputations for being objective.
Simon is very objective and very good journalist
Bet J How is that? Do you speak Russian? If you did you would know that in his dispatches he speaks in a derogatory way to anyone pro-Russian and very nicely to all the Ukrainians. He accepts everything pro-Ukraine without question, yet questions everything pro-Russian. He is not objective. He deserved to be held longer, they should have kept him.
joh do I disagree with you totally. If someone talk with person which that you do not accept it doesn't mean that this person don't like you. These are your subjective feelings.
And by the way I see you trying to say something derogatory about Simon example, "He deserved to be held longer, they should have kept him"
Bet J Of course they should have, yes these are subjective feelings towards a person who is subjective. If you go to a war zone and be subjective and derogatory like he is, then sorry but he deserved being held there and should have been held longer. Simon hates Russia, that's all it is and will only report bad things about the pro-Russian situation. Again, if you do not know the Russian language, you do not understand how he treats both sides of the conflict. He is not objective period. This can be seen just from the dispatches, let alone if you understand Russian when he speaks to the people.
NoTeaBaggers Thanks for support. I was confused what he said
Great, now they're using ballistic missiles. WHTA THE ACTUAL FUCK?
This is fake what about gaza
What about Peru? What about Samoa? What about your mom? How she's doing? Pray, tell us.
The first victim of war is ...
Dude, Transformers 4 is playing.
Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) today showed satellite images, which - as stated - shows that the Russians encroaching on Ukrainian territory and shelling from Grad rocket launchers points inhabited by civilians.
Russian Grad systems are deployed on the territory of Ukraine, two kilometers from the border with Russia, the whole battery. With their help, committed a crime, people are killed - said at a specially convened press conference in Kiev, the head of the SBU Valentin Naływajczenko.
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I'd take that with a grain of salt.
At 30 000 feet minimum, I doubt the "rebels" had any weapons who could shoot a commercial airliner out of the sky..
´rebels´?
Russian armed forces did and that is where those responsible were which has been proven by bellingcat and the official investigation
There was no such thing as rebels but russian soldiers.
@@JACKAL747 oh ya I forget, the Russians are responsible for everything that ever went wrong on this planet, not because someone is trying to make them look bad in the global public opinion since the fall of USSR..
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People think they drove a buk system from Russia, set it up, shot down the plane, and drove it back to Russia within a hour or 2. Just to shoot down 1 plane.
In English we pronounce the letter T..... Putin...not Puh-in...
Again this fucking propagandist simon. Bring back that dude with glasses who was reporting from Donetsk.
da ladno nemtsu prinesli namnogo bolshe usherba
another damn vid about the fucking plane
f that commander that order to shoot
Pay your gas bill ukraine
stop showing people's dead children...
Can any of these people here blaming the rebels and Russia just give ONE reasonable argument as to why would the rebels shoot this plane down and what would that bring them, how would they profit from it?
For weeks before the accident the rebels were being very vocal and proud of the fact they had shot-down many Ukrainian aircrafts, they even continued doing so after. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ukrainian_aircraft_losses_during_the_War_in_Donbass
They thought they had shot down a military aircraft first and freaked out when they arrived at the crash site and found out it was civilian, they are plenty of videos that are proof of that. I understand you may be pro-Russian side, but at that point you could have some honesty and decency for the deceased and their family.
@@Zealotux I am sorry for every life lost, whether it is an innocent civilian or a soldier in the battlefield. All I am saying is that the West would blame the pro-russian side for everything bad in this war or even outside of it, even if they had nothing to do with it in reality. If you are telling me that it isnt so, then you are naive.
@@searaider2571 Does that change the reality of what happened with MH17? All I'm seeing is victim-blaming done by supporters and sympathizers of terrorist groups who've downed a commercial airliner. It clearly was an accident, but not that it would be relevant since the tokens of Russia's dying foreign influence (that call themselves 'separatists') operate illegally on a soil of a sovereign state with a government running on a set of international and national laws that forbid activities such as seen on this video. If the "Pro-Russian" side wishes the West to stop condemning their actions, give up arms and let the planes fly. It's as simple as that.
The rebels are dumb and didn't know the difference between a passenger aircraft and a Ukrainian military aircraft. Because they were idiots, they shot down the plane thinking that it will hurt the Ukrainians.
That's the most reasonable reason.
Not any of them protesters is from harkov
They are from space, right?
ofc it's nazi group of people came to Kharkiv, if you have ever been in Kharkiv you could talk to not protesters, but pro-ukrainian people and hear from them in Russian where're hey from.
why in all the films from ukraine i saw only womens and old guys cheering for war? exactly the people that dont take the real fight
Because the young guys are conscripted and seen fighting the terrorists?
I never thought my country would play a kind of big role in this shit.
Why did the Ukrainian Government Let a civilian plane fly over a war zone when they knew about the Rebels Anti Air capabilities when their military AN-26's were shot down week prior?
I understand that the Ukrainians are pissed off but to say they Germans did less damage to Ukraine is just sheer stupidity. Some people need to open a fucking history book.
Part those people standing right there.. Are responsible....