Everyone always forgets about the Competitive Sniping scene that OpTic spawned. It ended without the publicity it deserved by late 2011. I remember playing with ZuPe, Jambi, Paul, Star, Folsom, PsYcHoSiS, ZooMa and many other FaZe and OpTic members before they were popular. Shout out to eRa (Former OpTic Mw2 Competitive Sniping team.) Good times.
optic dropped sniping as a priority at the release of bo2. faze was a montage and tricks hitting clan for a while before they even started a competitive roster but still Faze plays spoiler in majority of the past tournaments they face optic but optic prevails from the loser bracket and always ends up ranking higher than them. During their most recent meeting in IW optic pimp slapped the shit out of faze and they took the cwl championship so i disagree with your statement if you’re referring to modern day competitive meetings between the two and overall performance faze is slowly dying out today with more dominant teams like nV, optic, and tK as well as new european teams that are legit
sirdocblob but if your referring to no competitive terms back in the day then yes faze was superior in sniping thad why i said optic dropped it as a priority to address that your correct
that wasn't his point his trying to say OG has the best cod team GoW team and Halo Team i dont understand how you think he only meant cod from his comment when he never said anything close to that
Just console, the PC eSports side is pretty eh. Oh and the only good teams they have on console for now are Halo and Gears of War since the cod team is pretty butt cheeks right now
Not in CSGO. At the moment, Faze CSGO team has one of the scariest super team yet. They are Major contenders while Optic is pretty much still average or above but they aint no super team.
Dylan Cureg HAHAHAHAHA makes some sense tho. they’re like the anti-faze since they didn’t leave their teams to seek glory but rather were the pariahs of their teams
FlashOfThunder Do you even have a reason to ? It's not because you are an OG fan that you need to hate them. It means I have the right to hate you and OG because I'm an nV fan then. This is just stupid
FlashOfThunder Then you should just say that you consider them as rivals. A lot of optic fans are real haters who don't hesitate to insult other teams without reasons
Destructor642 OpTic v EnVy, the eClassico of what seem like brother orgs turned into main rivals. I mean it stems all the way back to the grassroots of CoD eSports and hell it went to several other game titles. It's sad to see that nV can't win against OpTic. They're always one upped in a way or another
I don't and never have watched competitive CoD, but you guys do these history videos so fucking well I sat through this entire thing and felt into it. Keep up the amazing work
This is so nostalgic, holy shit. But yeah, the optic montages were extremely bad compared to FaZe's or any other better Team's content. This is about esports tho, I just wanted to drop some oldschool facts lol
To be able to witness all of it experience the lan tournament hits different for me. Time sure does fly Nadashot was a legend him and Aches. Now to see the expansion of both teams is amazing from Halo, R6, Csgo(before the Swedish invasion), GoW so many games, and not just that rivalry on those games. Teams like cloud 9,NV, Finatic,G2,Denial from both sides u know it was going to be a battle
OpTic no doubt is the better team ethically, I've been the biggest FaZe fan when the CoD era flourished during AW and early BO3, then transitioned to CS:GO and honestly I don't want to go back to CoD. I was going to comment how you left out the fact that FaZe currently has one of the most successful CS:GO lineups right now and how you showed clips that were from late 2016 and early 2017, but I see it's because of the genuine shift of perspectives both teams have made over the course of expanding upon games, OpTic hasn't really fallen from their roots, but FaZe took a massive turn towards vlogs and business, and just don't have the same fanbase they have anymore, with even some of the players switching organizations cause it's just not the same and never will be ever again.
But yeah same for me. I was a huge FaZe Fanboy during COD BO2 but ended up stopping to watch them and got really into CS. Then they got a team and I am back where I started but with a different game. From the beginning of their CS team. They have came a long way and yeah it was pretty controversial when they bought out Niko some people hated it and some liked it. And same for Olof and Guardian when they were picked up everyone knew it before it was even announced. But if that is what it takes to win why not do it. They are getting their investment back on it and more after this year is over. They hopefully win this Major and get that 500,000 home and they should be good. The teams seems to work really well together. Only thing is that Karragain seems to always be at the bottom of the leader boards but he might be a great in game stratcaller.
Definitely FaZe will be in the hot-seat after this major, I mean hopefully they win but they'll be legends either way for the next one. I can't wait to see the team fully come together and finally beat SK at least once in a best-of-three. And also, although Karrigan is just not as powerful as his team at fragging, he's still got a HELLA good fragging squad, and honestly, he doesn't look too bad considering he's worrying about everyone else, and can pull clutches out when he's pressured. Also he's still holding himself up well compared to other in-game leaders like TaZ and even Fallen sometimes.
well rankwise its NaVi with s1mple and electronic taking 2nd best team title as the first one is Astralis but if you ask me FaZe CSGO is the BEST team in the multiverse
To me a big difference between the 2 is that OpTic uploads videos the fans want consistently, FaZe do what videos they want when they want making for an upset audience and long stretched of time before uploads on there channel, they lost arguably the best sniper spratt because of this and he went to OpTic! what i can tell after being in this community for so long is that OpTic cares about how good they are doing and there fans, FaZe just fakes it.
#FaZeUp This is basically my middle school experience!! I used to watch all the faze guys trick shot and was a die hard zooma fan. Thanks for some memories.
I've always said, content wise FaZe as a whole blows OpTic out of the water. Fan wise FaZe has more fans all around, however for esports OpTic does with CoD, i don't know the stats for CSGO/GoW/Halo but i do know that FaZe has a godly CS Team
the rivalry in cs was there originally, but the sheer fact that optic was entirely unable to hold a concrete roster is really what put them out, right as jasonr joined and left they struggled to find a 5th man and then the rosters been constantly unstable since. in they could just find a team with synergy that play well together and hold them it would put them back at the top of NA
billykhoa billykhoa It doesnt matter if the teams on CS are even, cause this rivalry does not have any game specific boundaries, wherever they play eachother the fanbases really fuel those matches up
When i think of competitive COD i think of Optic, When it comes to Sniping i think of FaZe. 2012-2015 were FaZe's golden years for sniping and now they are becoming even better in the CS:GO scene.
DUDE..........What a good fucking video.... you should be paid for this... wait you are but that was legit movie/documentary quality right there . Fuggin right subbed
You forgot to mention that in COD Champs 2015 FaZe were the team beating OpTic leaving them in 7th place and FaZe ended up 3rd. You forgot that the first time they've met again in a tournament since a year of silence between the two was in MLG Las Vegas, they played each other I think in the losers semifinals FaZe beating them 3-1and knocking OpTic out of the tournament in 7th with one of the closest match of the IW season which FaZe ended placing 3rd. Then OpTic won every game they've met in a tournament leading into CWL Global Pro League Season 1 where they both met in the first round of the tournament (FaZe being the underdogs) beating OpTic 3-1 and ended placing 3rd and OpTic 5-6th. And finally in CS:GO FaZe right now debatively the best team in the world while OpTic are not that great with their current roster being the 14th best in the world while struggling to get into major tournaments or groups
Fabián Valentín neither did he include the IW CWL meeting between faze and optic and optic taking the championship in a best of two series vs undefeated nV to give them more credibility to their name. Faze is dying in cod which personally i only care for cod as its spark of entertainment always keeps growing with different dominant teams such as nV,tK, and optic being the top teams in cod at the moment ever since IW and leading into WW2
And now FaZe is the best CS team imo and Optic seems to be slightly ahead in Cod(I don’t really follow cod esports tho), but i.t also seems as Optic is branching out a lot more to set them up. Overall I think Optic will have a better long run, but only time will tell
Diversification might seem a good idea when talking about portfolio investments but when you are paying for skill that could really just create a situation where optic end up with lots of decent (4-8th place) teams which dont make all that much money.
I think mechanically FaZe is better as each individual player is better than SK's , but SK works better as a team, give FaZe some time and they'll be doing better than they are even now
Veemon 453 well Fallen is better than Guardian, Cold is better than Niko, Fer is better than Rain, and Olof is better than Taco. But SK is better than FaZe. FaZe hasn't beaten SK on LAN. And SK dominated 2017
There was never a rivalry between Faze and Optic in Counterstrike simply because Faze is one of the best teams and Optic isn't even in the same league in terms of skill level Top 20 cs players 2017: Faze: olofmeister, Guardian, Rain, Niko Optic: none
if optics roster wasnt constantly falling apart optic would definitely be right there with them, theie roster previous to jasonr rolling out was one of the strongest in the league, and then he left and it hasnt been stable yet, though two of optics previous players did just prove their own spot against them beating them in boston
+fredik Nope, nobody even talks about CoD these days, CS is just kind of dead on Twitch because of ESL and ECS switching to TH-cam, being in the top3 most played Steam games doesn't make a game dead to be honest. CS is far from dead and still has a massive playerbase, meanwhile CoD is unheard of these days. It is far away from dead and 500k+ players isn't dead, people just switching to PUBG and then they come back to CS, meanwhile PUBG is having it's period atm and I don't think It will stay as popular, also Valve is fixing their game and adding new stuff meanwhile shitty CoD has a new version every year and I don't even know that shit.
TrapLord Harden ShuttlesWorth The ChronoGod how is cs dead explain lol, the boston majors qualifier had 230k viewers while the cod event that was going on at the same time had 30k
You have been speaking about overwatch and the leauge, but, to my knowledge, you haven't made a video dedicated to a certain player or team. I would like it if you would make a video about an overwatch player/group.
Thats also because OpTic put there money into Overwatch since cs is dying, FaZe invested way to heavy into there cs team to be able to compete with OpTic on pretty much every other esport
David Cano enough to disband the team if they scrub out of eleague Boston lol. No lie I only like rain and Olofmeister. I'm just hoping VP does decent, the struggle to be a VP fan is real :(
jANsON Potato. Faze had to pay over a million dollars in buyouts to get their first minor championship win: while hecz paid nothing for a thrown away na team which then went on to win a major tournament against all odds. Just proves that you are a sheep lol
That MLG Columbus in AW was one of the craziest Grand Finals I have ever seen. You guys could’ve mentioned the crazy crowd there too :P. The fans were competing on who can be louder too it was insane
minh T. Fresh Sure, well he wasn't happy when in FaZe, he wanted to build his own brand and not the faze brand as a whole and that's something and org like Optic which doesn't upload montages doesn't care about..
The real story, they are the two biggest clans so they are automatically rivals
unreal video
so trueee gj
It’s FaZe vs SK Gaming on CSGO.
I don’t watch or play CoD, but still, great video. Well made.
Yeah, and Faze with Olaf and Guardian are showing their dominance.
More like Cloud9 vs faze lmao
LuckyLlama Right lol, but this was the first time C9 beat FaZe all year.
Fnatic VS Envyus/LDLc
Yeah I know. Im talking in Historical term.
Two clans, from gaming into a lifestyle. Makes me feel old knowing that these two were formed 10 years ago and kept me sane during my high school days
Everyone always forgets about the Competitive Sniping scene that OpTic spawned. It ended without the publicity it deserved by late 2011.
I remember playing with ZuPe, Jambi, Paul, Star, Folsom, PsYcHoSiS, ZooMa and many other FaZe and OpTic members before they were popular.
Shout out to eRa (Former OpTic Mw2 Competitive Sniping team.)
Good times.
FaZe - TrickShotters turned rich Cali Hipster youtube Vloggers....
OpTic - Pub Stomping on the haters...
OpTic ran cod esports, FaZe ran trickshotting, I miss these 2 teams man :(
This shit gave me the feels this was childhood
This history between these two are amazing. How they both developed into what they are today! Great video!
The sniping team of 2012 era FaZe was superior in every single way to Optic. the golden era of FaZe imo
ehhh idk if you’re talking montage wise or not but i preferred optic tbh
sirdocblob yee
optic dropped sniping as a priority at the release of bo2. faze was a montage and tricks hitting clan for a while before they even started a competitive roster but still Faze plays spoiler in majority of the past tournaments they face optic but optic prevails from the loser bracket and always ends up ranking higher than them. During their most recent meeting in IW optic pimp slapped the shit out of faze and they took the cwl championship so i disagree with your statement if you’re referring to modern day competitive meetings between the two and overall performance faze is slowly dying out today with more dominant teams like nV, optic, and tK as well as new european teams that are legit
trick shotting *
sirdocblob but if your referring to no competitive terms back in the day then yes faze was superior in sniping thad why i said optic dropped it as a priority to address that your correct
Lol look at cute little Courage when he was still announcing esports.
Optic runs esports mostly console
Cod isn't the only console esport, and cod is one of the smallest esport games vs games like CSGO Overwatch LoL Dota etc
that wasn't his point his trying to say OG has the best cod team GoW team and Halo Team i dont understand how you think he only meant cod from his comment when he never said anything close to that
Just console, the PC eSports side is pretty eh. Oh and the only good teams they have on console for now are Halo and Gears of War since the cod team is pretty butt cheeks right now
Fabián Valentín false cod team is also still good
Jeriel Bermudez I know they're good but their placing aren't looking so good and they haven't been able to train cause internet issues
Not in CSGO. At the moment, Faze CSGO team has one of the scariest super team yet. They are Major contenders while Optic is pretty much still average or above but they aint no super team.
Not yet
Optic is good, and they can still improve a lot, but they are not average
Black Panda they are pretty average...
granteddd not really...... It should be called decent, not average
Optic is even under average, they didnt even qualify for the last tourney at boston lol
2 Years ago Hecz didn't want to buy an EU roster, and now he owns a literally all EU team
He could have bought tsm roster now know as astralis . Imagine that wow
David Cano yeah he wanted astralis but they turned him down
ovaloctopus8 No he could not. They denied him.
anyone else an og and remembers when they were the most famous on call of duty?
these 10 year olds probably know them from fortnite lmao
ew
ItsCalledKarma Facts I remember them Faze Rain Sniper Montages And trickshots
ItsCalledKarma fortnite sucks
Illcams was the best
Ikr bro
i remember when Courage used to Cast from his bedroom 😭
The amount of research this man had to do is crazy mad props defiantly dropped a like and sub!
Funny I thought it was CS:GO. This is still one hell of a story.
Tj Hunter why? optic and faze have no rivalry at all on cs
Welp,in CS it’s a very much one sided affair,with Faze having the undisputed n2 team and arguably n1 team,spending more than 300k on a single player
In cs Optic is a budget FaZe
Dylan Cureg HAHAHAHAHA makes some sense tho. they’re like the anti-faze since they didn’t leave their teams to seek glory but rather were the pariahs of their teams
CS:GO starts at 17:11
Such a well made video good job man! I’m 22 now and was able to grow up watching this all unfold it was pretty cool to watch a good vid on it.
As OpTic fan, I hate EnVyUs more than FaZe.
FlashOfThunder Do you even have a reason to ? It's not because you are an OG fan that you need to hate them. It means I have the right to hate you and OG because I'm an nV fan then. This is just stupid
Getting knock out to the loser bracket by them is the reason I don't like them. I don't hate them personally. They just my main rival.
FlashOfThunder Then you should just say that you consider them as rivals. A lot of optic fans are real haters who don't hesitate to insult other teams without reasons
Ewww Bernie 2016 lmao. Change your profile picture. The election was 2 years ago almost.
Destructor642 OpTic v EnVy, the eClassico of what seem like brother orgs turned into main rivals. I mean it stems all the way back to the grassroots of CoD eSports and hell it went to several other game titles. It's sad to see that nV can't win against OpTic. They're always one upped in a way or another
this is seriously so well put together and brings back so many memories and emotions. thank you
FaZe 10x better in cs now
NiKoooo
ImAlwaysoBored_ - Taira de Kretser nah olof
Cloud. 9 better in cs
Cloud 9 is 100x better than Faze Clan
We will see next major who will win.
I don't and never have watched competitive CoD, but you guys do these history videos so fucking well I sat through this entire thing and felt into it. Keep up the amazing work
This is so nostalgic, holy shit.
But yeah, the optic montages were extremely bad compared to FaZe's or any other better Team's content.
This is about esports tho, I just wanted to drop some oldschool facts lol
Iddkkk predator montage was hype
To be able to witness all of it experience the lan tournament hits different for me. Time sure does fly Nadashot was a legend him and Aches. Now to see the expansion of both teams is amazing from Halo, R6, Csgo(before the Swedish invasion), GoW so many games, and not just that rivalry on those games. Teams like cloud 9,NV, Finatic,G2,Denial from both sides u know it was going to be a battle
FaZe has pubg and rainbow 6 teams too
Jack Rowe yeah I’m surprised
Jack Rowe And in fifa.
Jack Rowe and Fifa
LevAurzyy yea I saw that
Jack Rowe amd csgo lol
FaZe got me into Esports in 2016. Now I love watching Valorant, CSGO, Rocket League, and Halo and of course, I still watch CoD too
Now we get to see them both play in Rocket League
OpTic for life! I like Faze and respect them but OpTic was the first team I feel in love with
It’s neat looking back on just how long both CoD as an Esport and the Optic and Faze orgs have been around.
MAKE A EL CLASICO VIDEO !!!
Please. NV vs OpTic will always be the biggest cod rivalry. As an optic Fan I hate their guts wayyyyyyy more than FaZe
Yesssss el clásico
Jawad Jaddaoui i hate EG more lol
E-clasico*
Cause of aches?
Awesome video I can tell this took a while to make
OpTic no doubt is the better team ethically, I've been the biggest FaZe fan when the CoD era flourished during AW and early BO3, then transitioned to CS:GO and honestly I don't want to go back to CoD. I was going to comment how you left out the fact that FaZe currently has one of the most successful CS:GO lineups right now and how you showed clips that were from late 2016 and early 2017, but I see it's because of the genuine shift of perspectives both teams have made over the course of expanding upon games, OpTic hasn't really fallen from their roots, but FaZe took a massive turn towards vlogs and business, and just don't have the same fanbase they have anymore, with even some of the players switching organizations cause it's just not the same and never will be ever again.
aw is not when the cod era was flourishing lmao
sorry I meant when flourished as in when FaZe's competetive team actually started winning anything
Yeah man FaZe the Clan it self was biggest from MW2 and BO2 days.
But yeah same for me. I was a huge FaZe Fanboy during COD BO2 but ended up stopping to watch them and got really into CS. Then they got a team and I am back where I started but with a different game. From the beginning of their CS team. They have came a long way and yeah it was pretty controversial when they bought out Niko some people hated it and some liked it. And same for Olof and Guardian when they were picked up everyone knew it before it was even announced. But if that is what it takes to win why not do it. They are getting their investment back on it and more after this year is over. They hopefully win this Major and get that 500,000 home and they should be good. The teams seems to work really well together. Only thing is that Karragain seems to always be at the bottom of the leader boards but he might be a great in game stratcaller.
Definitely FaZe will be in the hot-seat after this major, I mean hopefully they win but they'll be legends either way for the next one. I can't wait to see the team fully come together and finally beat SK at least once in a best-of-three. And also, although Karrigan is just not as powerful as his team at fragging, he's still got a HELLA good fragging squad, and honestly, he doesn't look too bad considering he's worrying about everyone else, and can pull clutches out when he's pressured. Also he's still holding himself up well compared to other in-game leaders like TaZ and even Fallen sometimes.
I was only 7-11 when I was watching esports I'm 14 but feels like a good distant memory from the past
Anyone get this on their recommend in 2020
It’s crazy how big MLG has gotten over just s few short years wow it’s crazy 🔥🔥🔥
What about the fact faze is now the 2nd worlds best csgo team whereas optic have completley dissapeared
ziomale23 they kinda just forgot about it. I think they are focusing more on Lol and cod kneo
thats my point xD that they forgot
well rankwise its NaVi with s1mple and electronic taking 2nd best team title as the first one is Astralis but if you ask me FaZe CSGO is the BEST team in the multiverse
Niko and rainn rule the cs world
@@keske3717 c9 is pretty amazing too
this the best youtube vid i have ever seen very good im subscribing because of this vid.
To me a big difference between the 2 is that OpTic uploads videos the fans want consistently, FaZe do what videos they want when they want making for an upset audience and long stretched of time before uploads on there channel, they lost arguably the best sniper spratt because of this and he went to OpTic! what i can tell after being in this community for so long is that OpTic cares about how good they are doing and there fans, FaZe just fakes it.
FaZe in cod only did well in advanced warfare.
Ultimate I saw your other comment about how optic could be a top tier ow team but it’s too early, no just no
Why no? Housten Outlaws are looking good, we cant tell for any team until the season progresses
Because they're not playing tier 1 korean teams duh
If your profile picture is anime or anything that looks like it, your opinion doesnt count
I like how courage is in this video and now he plays for optic
Faze clan is just a joke now they are falling apart
you've seen optics team in cs? tell me what's falling apart 0-3
Yeah, dosen't mean Faze are better. Optic have been shitting on Faze for a good two years in cod
He's talking about the content creators i'm pretty sure. Faze are only better than Optic in one esport.
So true
R6 GoD OpTic are falling apart in cod...
I think we need more call of duty content on here. There's a lot to unpack in that games competitive history that would be cool to see in some videos!
Yo, that dude who's interviewing the FaZe player REALLY sounds like OpTic Courage, and *kinda* looks like him!
But idk
August Rydahl Sørensen it is him
@@gbuster34gameplay91 r/wooosh
#FaZeUp
This is basically my middle school experience!! I used to watch all the faze guys trick shot and was a die hard zooma fan. Thanks for some memories.
Now it’s all about that faze cs team. GOD RAIN
Lub Tearts rainMONSTA
Faze wasn’t as good as optic in pro gaming but in sniping faze was the best. Great vid.
Mason Casselman 4467 thats obvious. I remember when rain went around 1v1 the best snipers and destroying them easily
Great video man! Really enjoyed this!
lol i like how they use footage of pamaj when he was with optic and with faze
This channel is awesome. Never disappoint in content great work! GREEN WALL!
Faze just got a rainbow six team
TheLegend27 and the PUBG team, lets not forget they were the first to get invited in katowice
And
I remember playing mw2 being a kid watching these teams going at it. Nostalgic af
I've always said, content wise FaZe as a whole blows OpTic out of the water. Fan wise FaZe has more fans all around, however for esports OpTic does with CoD, i don't know the stats for CSGO/GoW/Halo but i do know that FaZe has a godly CS Team
Aaron cod: optic, csgo:faze, GoW:idk if they play, halo:optic. Hope that answers that for you
Will Crelia yeah but faze also has the best r6 and pubg team in the world along with one of the best pro FIFA players in the world
Faze just lose against clown9
Cloud 9 is a great team
lol best R6 team, Penta Sports and Evil Geniuses are better rosters
Im so happy ive been apart of all this
Was that courage in the tux
Miss the old cod rivalry with Optic and Faze.
There was never anything between optic and faze in CS LOL
Faze is a super team and optic is average
the rivalry in cs was there originally, but the sheer fact that optic was entirely unable to hold a concrete roster is really what put them out, right as jasonr joined and left they struggled to find a 5th man and then the rosters been constantly unstable since. in they could just find a team with synergy that play well together and hold them it would put them back at the top of NA
billykhoa billykhoa It doesnt matter if the teams on CS are even, cause this rivalry does not have any game specific boundaries, wherever they play eachother the fanbases really fuel those matches up
Because it's not about CS maybe??
When i think of competitive COD i think of Optic, When it comes to Sniping i think of FaZe. 2012-2015 were FaZe's golden years for sniping and now they are becoming even better in the CS:GO scene.
Was that courage at the beginning?
Yo2TheYo yes
DUDE..........What a good fucking video.... you should be paid for this... wait you are but that was legit movie/documentary quality right there . Fuggin right subbed
You forgot to mention that in COD Champs 2015 FaZe were the team beating OpTic leaving them in 7th place and FaZe ended up 3rd. You forgot that the first time they've met again in a tournament since a year of silence between the two was in MLG Las Vegas, they played each other I think in the losers semifinals FaZe beating them 3-1and knocking OpTic out of the tournament in 7th with one of the closest match of the IW season which FaZe ended placing 3rd. Then OpTic won every game they've met in a tournament leading into CWL Global Pro League Season 1 where they both met in the first round of the tournament (FaZe being the underdogs) beating OpTic 3-1 and ended placing 3rd and OpTic 5-6th. And finally in CS:GO FaZe right now debatively the best team in the world while OpTic are not that great with their current roster being the 14th best in the world while struggling to get into major tournaments or groups
Fabián Valentín n
Yup, maybe the commentator is an OG fan
Fabián Valentín neither did he include the IW CWL meeting between faze and optic and optic taking the championship in a best of two series vs undefeated nV to give them more credibility to their name. Faze is dying in cod which personally i only care for cod as its spark of entertainment always keeps growing with different dominant teams such as nV,tK, and optic being the top teams in cod at the moment ever since IW and leading into WW2
John Papado Really can’t call Optic the top team in COD right now though.... they just aren’t to hot starting off this year
Great video! Enjoyed it very nostalgic
And now FaZe is the best CS team imo and Optic seems to be slightly ahead in Cod(I don’t really follow cod esports tho), but i.t also seems as Optic is branching out a lot more to set them up. Overall I think Optic will have a better long run, but only time will tell
Diversification might seem a good idea when talking about portfolio investments but when you are paying for skill that could really just create a situation where optic end up with lots of decent (4-8th place) teams which dont make all that much money.
Veemon 453 2nd best
Sktop1
most definitely true, I think right now FaZe is going to prosper heavily, but perhaps and just maybe Optic may rise to the occasion
I think mechanically FaZe is better as each individual player is better than SK's , but SK works better as a team, give FaZe some time and they'll be doing better than they are even now
Veemon 453 well Fallen is better than Guardian, Cold is better than Niko, Fer is better than Rain, and Olof is better than Taco. But SK is better than FaZe. FaZe hasn't beaten SK on LAN. And SK dominated 2017
This dud has an amazing voice, its like he was born to do youtube esports content
I notice things like this a lot. Sometimes the right person gets the right job.
There was never a rivalry between Faze and Optic in Counterstrike simply because Faze is one of the best teams and Optic isn't even in the same league in terms of skill level
Top 20 cs players 2017:
Faze: olofmeister, Guardian, Rain, Niko
Optic: none
Jacob Hemming y'all can have counterstrike and we will take cod
CS is better so
MajorMlgNoob sorry I didn't actually care nor ask
if optics roster wasnt constantly falling apart optic would definitely be right there with them, theie roster previous to jasonr rolling out was one of the strongest in the league, and then he left and it hasnt been stable yet, though two of optics previous players did just prove their own spot against them beating them in boston
Wow what an awesome video!!! Keep up the good work
IS THAT COURAGE JD
Now we get to watch them in Rocket League I’m so excited
Definitely Team OpTic
We need an E-clasico video ESPECIALLY after what happened during IW stage 2 playoffs and cod champs
Did anybody else recognize iJustine at 6:14?
Damn it’s crazy remembering some of these matches
Cs is much better.
It's a fact.
+TrapLord Harden ShuttlesWorth The ChronoGod
That is CoD
Both games are dying
+fredik Nope, nobody even talks about CoD these days, CS is just kind of dead on Twitch because of ESL and ECS switching to TH-cam, being in the top3 most played Steam games doesn't make a game dead to be honest. CS is far from dead and still has a massive playerbase, meanwhile CoD is unheard of these days. It is far away from dead and 500k+ players isn't dead, people just switching to PUBG and then they come back to CS, meanwhile PUBG is having it's period atm and I don't think It will stay as popular, also Valve is fixing their game and adding new stuff meanwhile shitty CoD has a new version every year and I don't even know that shit.
TrapLord Harden ShuttlesWorth The ChronoGod how is cs dead explain lol, the boston majors qualifier had 230k viewers while the cod event that was going on at the same time had 30k
cs go had more players last month then dota 2.It doesnt mean its dying even tho it doesnt mean much it prove why cs isnt dying
This was a great video! Well done
There is no competition in CS GO, faze is currently one of the best team, optic is no where to be seen.
Archie Wei that’s not what the video is about
nice vid man optic and faze big esport names and biggest rivalry for sure!
Do they read comments on their videos? I have a suggestion for a video.
You have been speaking about overwatch and the leauge, but, to my knowledge, you haven't made a video dedicated to a certain player or team. I would like it if you would make a video about an overwatch player/group.
They have though
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ruben abimanan They have mentioned it every once in a while, but not on an entire video.
for anyone wondering half of the Faze Overwatch team is actually now on the Houston Outlaws(Optic Gaming) Overwatch League Team
Optic are 10x better in every way
zain ali im an optic fan but i dont about content
not in cs
zain ali only relevant on console eSports like Halo an Gears lmao. Cod team isn't even T3 and PC teams aren't even good at all.
Check the CSGO ratings of both teams..... Faze has a powerful roster
Mc JC optic has done the same on consoles lol.
The rivalry between this 2 groups inspired me to be a Gamer, to play fair and accept winning or losing
I don't follow other scenes, but I know about CS: Optic isn't even top15 in CS, meanwhile FaZe is top2.
Thats also because OpTic put there money into Overwatch since cs is dying, FaZe invested way to heavy into there cs team to be able to compete with OpTic on pretty much every other esport
And optic has the greatest team in cod of all time and gears and halo while faze cod team is ass
Ultimate lol where. I haven't seen optics name anywhere on the overwatch league
+zain ali As I said, I don't follow other scenes/games, meanwhile CoD is dead.
Its because they are under the name Houston Outlaws in overwatch. It is still OpTic but they had to rebrand of owl just like envyus and cloud9
This was a great video! GREENWALL!!!
People even watch Pro COD???
Most viewers are on mlg.tv thats why you dont see many on twitch. But yeah it has quite high viewership.
Swifts no it doesn’t lmfao
Well its over 100k for events and 200k for finals of the events so its reasonably high
LOL THATS NOT MUCH AT ALL
dead esport
Mr 5hadow v
Optic Vs Envy was even more of a rivalry
FaZe CS > OpTic CS, like cmon loo at the top 20 cs players of 2017. ez
Distorted Potato. How much was the buyout for niko , Olof ?
David Cano enough to disband the team if they scrub out of eleague Boston lol. No lie I only like rain and Olofmeister. I'm just hoping VP does decent, the struggle to be a VP fan is real :(
Optic is diversified while faze is heavily invested into cs, simple as that.
David Cano for niko about 500k -1mil olof buyout was not stated
jANsON Potato. Faze had to pay over a million dollars in buyouts to get their first minor championship win: while hecz paid nothing for a thrown away na team which then went on to win a major tournament against all odds. Just proves that you are a sheep lol
That MLG Columbus in AW was one of the craziest Grand Finals I have ever seen. You guys could’ve mentioned the crazy crowd there too :P. The fans were competing on who can be louder too it was insane
Yeah FaZe CS is massively superior
I love it when they can be friends off the controller
faze also just expanded to rainbow 6
Kylemack1999 optic has a pubg team
So does FaZe, They are Top 4 on PUBG #FaZeUP
Novac So does FaZe, they got t4 in esl, far better than og...
It’s more of a fan rival than a personal one they’re all friends in real life
Optic won the war in cod but on csgo faze can easily 16-0 optic at any time
These videos are really well made
What about Optic expanding into Dota 2 as well?? Hellooooo???
That's in the video at 20:47.
What about faze expanding to PUBG and Rainbow six siege with 2 of the best teams in the world
John Papado and in fifa
Brilliant video, as usual.
FaZe ftw
_XTeacup X_ faze sucks now
_XTeacup X_ they always sucked
don’t think about rain, apex or blaziken think about replays and bloo
Loved The Video Bro !
You forgot FaZe have a PUBG team
Blur And a Rainbow Six siege team, both considered to be some of the best
because they bought an existing roster, their CoD team grew under the org which is what this video highlights
Awesome Video Man
Blood vs crip
no?
"my hope will never die"
(2013 intensifies)
Optic Pamaj > Faze Pamaj
minh T. Fresh Sure, well he wasn't happy when in FaZe, he wanted to build his own brand and not the faze brand as a whole and that's something and org like Optic which doesn't upload montages doesn't care about..
Not no more lol
OpTic starting out the new COD year with the 2K win and no maps Dropped! 🏆🔥 Greenwalls year !!
Now it’s going to be a FaZe vs TSM rivalry on fortnite , like if agree
kevv Not anymore, FaZe beat TSM on every way, the rivalry now should be FaZe vs Team Liquid.
@@dropdead3026 tfue and cloakzy vs liquid vs ghost
I have not played a single game of COD but I still know this rivalry, its pretty damn big