WTTC 2003 : Ma Lin - Joo Se-Hyuk [HD]

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  • @christiankf
    @christiankf 10 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Miss the old Joo.. He made table tennis really entertaining.

  • @gustavmardby9364
    @gustavmardby9364 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Back in the day where joo never did any chops away from the table with his forehand. It made him so much better

    • @Force2BRW
      @Force2BRW 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      +Gustav Mårdby Idk. He lost a lot of points when he was back from the table had had to do a slow topspin loop. Now he gets those back with a heavy underspin, and is more consistent about it. He still attacks all the same balls that he attacked here, and plays very aggressively as a defensive player, but I think adding the forehand chop gave him another dimension. You still see him throw in some slow forehand loops to change it up from time to time, but more often than not waits until he has a higher percentage attack to break out that forehand attack

    • @thecatmeows1625
      @thecatmeows1625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gustav Mårdby
      Look at 8:27.

  • @johnduff1564
    @johnduff1564 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The best TT period ! Missing those days

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Joo was fast and could counterpunch effectively in those days. Ma Lin was very strong against defenders but Joo was just very good in this match.

  • @acerola9430
    @acerola9430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In 2003, Joo Se-hyuk's form was beautiful

  • @saikarthikbathula7108
    @saikarthikbathula7108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That same year, Jan Ove Waldner had a comprehensive 4-0 victory over Joo Sae Hyuk.
    If you see the match, the way he handled Joo, you can observe why Waldner was a true Genius of Table Tennis and above these made in china machines.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ok,Waldner was genius but of all the Chinese players Ma is the least robotic.

    • @NoSpeechForTheDumb
      @NoSpeechForTheDumb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In fact Ma Lin was the only chinese player who had significant problems against defenders. I always had the impression that he didn't feel comfortable when he was forced to open the racket. That is why his topspins against heavy underspin looked quite awkward.

    • @liamcannon9617
      @liamcannon9617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They aren't robots , you just have minimal understanding of the game

    • @Force2BRW
      @Force2BRW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dickn.ormous1064 I think Xu Xin is probably the least robotic of the chinese players I've seen.

    • @Force2BRW
      @Force2BRW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dickn.ormous1064 Ya...robots are efficient. I said Xu Xin is the least robotic.

  • @netaichowdhury1731
    @netaichowdhury1731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The best defense in the world .We have ever seen 😊😊😊

  • @sashazxtt
    @sashazxtt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The true Giants of the sport. Legends. Best in the world.

  • @ollewiberg6093
    @ollewiberg6093 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ma Lin has a long movement for his forehand-loop, that Takes so much energy. Also he cannot change the mode easily from slow to speedy spin and the reversed, which enables Yoo to find an efficient distance from the table, from where he can play his defensive game.
    You could expect more from Ma Lin but he gets tired because of his technique.
    Someone mentioned Waldner against Joo elsewhere in this thread, but Waldners game against choppers is a completely different thing.

  • @taingo52
    @taingo52 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:01 Creepy reflection

  • @mimithecat23
    @mimithecat23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    ma lin didn't shake joo's hand,disgusting ma lin

    • @user-tc6xk1zv9j
      @user-tc6xk1zv9j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because this video doesn't show.they shake hand in the original one.

    • @alexdelarge5703
      @alexdelarge5703 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-tc6xk1zv9j you sure? He really looked like he just went away, do you have the original video? In chinese I guess, because I really did not find it

    • @adilet2370
      @adilet2370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's impossible and it would be a shame to China

  • @noahclayborne1240
    @noahclayborne1240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know why people like the new ball the old ball is far more entertaining

    • @felmusik5043
      @felmusik5043 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the diference??

  • @jeremyhazin1503
    @jeremyhazin1503 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ma lins loop was so weak back then!

  • @vekihaskic2136
    @vekihaskic2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can I find on youtube a whole match Joo Sae Hyuk against Ma Lin?

  • @gm0100
    @gm0100 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:05 I love his backhand serve

  • @olafhermans
    @olafhermans 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a match for history

  • @majormind1584
    @majormind1584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic player Ma Lin, but not a fan of his personality and I feel like he looks down upon players such as Joo. Legendary match!!

  • @pedrovoss862
    @pedrovoss862 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma Lin's defense improved within the years

  • @JSmanchesterunited
    @JSmanchesterunited 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the difference between now and then is how the Chinese have developed their technique to attack at all times possible

  • @davesplatz
    @davesplatz 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great point for sure. When I watched it, I had the feeling that Ma Lin thought that he knew very well what he was doing in that last moment of the point (looking at how he hit the ball before...): He tried a centered drop shot, but expected much more top side spin by Joo. He was just mistakin'...

  • @malongsserve4735
    @malongsserve4735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When table tennis was entertaining

    • @kevinsong2946
      @kevinsong2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no plastic balls

    • @cldpt
      @cldpt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      go watch the Lebrun brothers these days, especially Felix with his amazing penhold technique

  • @mhmisc65
    @mhmisc65 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fight.

  • @topspin4456
    @topspin4456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great sport.

  • @nebojsasaric1827
    @nebojsasaric1827 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma Lin the Best

  • @Sakura_kawasakii
    @Sakura_kawasakii 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:28

  • @GuuhCW
    @GuuhCW 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    00:35 LOL there's a sheep marking the score

  • @dat4493
    @dat4493 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ma lin must have been very upset ... LOL

  • @yuhani123
    @yuhani123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at the end of the final set, Malin begin feel that he will lose, so his style a little bit change with chop after spin.. it's give opportunity for Joo to attach and get the point :-)

  • @goptty
    @goptty 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    7 28 - OMFG!

  • @bangonbangon-fs1bj
    @bangonbangon-fs1bj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god 😁😁😁

  • @goptty
    @goptty 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol that is funny as much it is true , Indeed the best wttc ever

  • @user-kp3ci8ok1z
    @user-kp3ci8ok1z 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chop god _ JSH.

  • @user-hw9rw1nw5w
    @user-hw9rw1nw5w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    вот это матч !

  • @ytom4126
    @ytom4126 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How old was Ma ling at this time?

    • @stoneman4915
      @stoneman4915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      23

    • @user_ga27bdr2o
      @user_ga27bdr2o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No...he looks 53 almost.. (sorry ma lin)

    • @fakermaker4187
      @fakermaker4187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, they were both 23 at that time

  • @johnng5016
    @johnng5016 ปีที่แล้ว

    If ML won this match he knew he would have had a huge window to be world champion vs Schlager.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Undoubtedly,but he was weak against choppers,having lost their 2 previous encounters.
      Also,if Samsonov had beaten Kreanga he would have been World Champion 'cause he owned both JSH and Schlager.

  • @FLCKMASTER
    @FLCKMASTER 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i look ma lin , make me LOL

  • @felmusik5043
    @felmusik5043 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What blade and rubbers use Joo ?

    • @yorch877
      @yorch877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At some point on 2006, he used Butterfly Feint Long II on the backhand and something super grippy on the forehand, something like Superspin from Butterfly. Butterfly later made a Joo Se Hyuk blade that was slow and with lots of control.

  • @user-qf6kx9gz6h
    @user-qf6kx9gz6h 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma Lin does not like to play far from table

  • @Galimah
    @Galimah 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    must be extremely taxing playing someone like Joo

  • @JP-tm8zd
    @JP-tm8zd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ma Lin bad looser 9:58

    • @chadeli8271
      @chadeli8271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey see you are so jealous - and you are so bad at English spelling too😂

    • @JP-tm8zd
      @JP-tm8zd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chadeli8271
      I speak Spanish. I think Ma Lin ended the match angry
      👋🏾

  • @sinceremf1227
    @sinceremf1227 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think most of the player need to learn from Joo to plays as always (cut ) the ball to slow down the speed of the ball in order not to (jump) out of the (feild)....

  • @denny92859042
    @denny92859042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    馬琳輸得心心不忿

  • @johnduff1564
    @johnduff1564 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Attitude of a douchebag Ma Lin at the end, no handshake. Well done Joo, even in the final, the best defenser ever ! (Matsushita at the second place)

  • @sneakyninja4184
    @sneakyninja4184 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ma lin is mad coz he is bad Kappa

  • @paramountelite2282
    @paramountelite2282 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Ma Lin had beaten Joo, he'd played against Schlager, and "slaughtered" him, but strangely enough Ma Lin has yet to win the WTTC, but has been so close so much, and also lost what should've been easy games.

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Colton Brown Even if Ma had beaten Joo, he still would have had to go through Kreanga to go to the final, and Schlager, who was playing very well, to win.

    • @NoSpeechForTheDumb
      @NoSpeechForTheDumb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Schlager beat Kong Linghui and Wang Liqin in this tournament and Ma Lin himself in the subsequent team worldcup. I don't think that anyone could have managed to "slaughter" him in those times. Especially not a player who was strategically and tactically one-dimensional like Ma Lin.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoSpeechForTheDumb The team World Championship is best of 5 as opposed to best best of 7 format so it favors the weaker player.It was probably the only win over Ma Lin in God know's how many attempts (their first match was in 1996)so I think Ma Lin would have been the favorite.

    • @NoSpeechForTheDumb
      @NoSpeechForTheDumb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dickn.ormous1064 Ma Lin was often favorite in WTTCs and never managed. Besides being technically one-dimensional he struggled with his mentality. That's why he lost to Joo (and almost every other defender he ever met). Schlager on the other hand was mentally flawless in that tournament. Looking at how many match points he saved against Kong and Wang, it may be assumed that he was almost unbeatable at that instance.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@NoSpeechForTheDumb Both Kong Linghui and Wang Liqin had average serve-receiving skills and exploitable bh. Ma Lin was a more difficult player against Europeans just ask Samsonov who had no chance whatsoever against him.
      His match up with JSH is irrelevant.Schlager himself was pretty useless against lefties losing to He Zhiwen at the WTTC in 2005,he was anything but multi-dimensional.As He Zhiwen said he played with many changes but had too many loopholes in his game.
      Ma's loses at the WTTC were against teammates who had the advantage of being familiar with his game,it's the same problem Waldner had against his teammates and hardly reflect the dynamics against foreign players.

  • @coffeeandtrance
    @coffeeandtrance 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    when two friends can't agree on what game they want to play

  • @vladimirpavliv2883
    @vladimirpavliv2883 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    slaughtered Schlager? what are you talking about? Liqin usually slaughtered Ma and Schlger kicked Liqins butt
    watch?v=2xt4pX9Usqc (Schlager kicks Ma)

  • @user-um9bd9dj2i
    @user-um9bd9dj2i 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    しっかり負けてんの草