I went into RR4 with this team (I didn't have SL Gregor and swapped Hong Lu with Rodya for that rime shank) and somehow managed to shave 11 turns off my previous run of 74 turns total. In conclusion: sinking is goated
Sinking is pretty good I genuinely still prefer having Hong lu be default for frivolous joke Helps set up ego usage a bit easier which I feel is more critical for this rail way God rime shank is so good
I mainly do like a sinking unga bunga team since you cant get an enemy below 45 sp, which is just Wheath Dieci Rodya (rime shank) Solemn Sang Butler Outis Multicrack Faust Lobotomy E.G.O : Ryoshu
To those who didn't get FoDB yi sang or gregor. Don't worry, I was able to get 65 with just erlking and molar Ish. Yi sang and greg do help alot against Nelly though.
i tried doing that with rodya instead of hong lu and i ended up ragequitting after like, my 30th attempt at the final section :') still made it in less than 100 turns but damn, i felt every bit of funeral Yi Sang's Blunt weakness
The final section is easier than the third in my opinion, fighting the meta ids with meta egos + the damned sheep was something If you could do the third section, the final should be in the bag
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 I think the problem was i just E.G.O spammed at first, expecting it to work like last time, except i used all my resources on the precedent fight so ofc it didnt... But the best way to go about it is really to try and nuke one or two ids per turn so the enemies' sanity plummets and you can keep the advantage
@@ramdomguymakingramdomcomme6853 i was super stingy in the 2nd and 3rd section with my ego (which caused a lot of resets), but it was all worth it when I get to spam the borrowed uptie 4 blind obsession every turn fr
yi sang currently needs someone else to pick up the sinking application, otherwise incredible asset for sinking teams two more count positive ids on the level of linton gregor and sinking will be something unbelievably powerful
Used this team basically verbatim (except Chef Ryoshu for support healing) and got 74 turns. I could think of some changes to improve it (Butler Faust could be more useful for Fluid Sac, and Dieci Meur could provide Gluttony for Sunshower and some useful EGOs), but I’m not doing that again; Envys were an infuriating crapshow where you can’t even do the intended redirecting half the time due to their speeds and I often had to reset several times before everyone could clash anything, it’s almost impossible to get an SP lead even with healing and Sinking, and one bad roll or speed misalignment can insta-screw you.
By using evade your current insight level won’t change. So if you discarded skill 3 from the start and keep spamming evade, you can keep 3 insight as long as you don’t activate the evade.
Once you discard an S3 and are up to 3, put your defensive skill up and keep using the top skill; the lower skill is covered by the evade, so the attack skill has nothing to discard and your Insight won’t change.
How essential is butler outis to shard?? i wont be able to get her till season 6 if i dont pick her up now. But i have all the other butlers, is it that neccesary? i'll have to get a full 400 for her
If you have Butler Faust it is not too bad. If you don't have either of them 100% shard Outis, Echoes is just too strong a status to not have in a sinking comp
It depends on what you want sinking for. Mirror dungeon? You can get away without her. Story content? If you spam rimeshank enough you won’t feel her absence. Rr? Definitely do need her
Depends, wingbeats can be useful in the first part with Headless Portrait and Nelly cause slash weakness but outside of that, not all that needed. AOE ego are just more useful for Envy Pecc and their the hardest parts of this RR.
Personally, I think no; Dieci Hong Lu is arguably in the top 5 best ID in the game. Him being Sinking Count Neutral (Possibly even positive with Echoes of the Manor), makes him a no brainer on a Sinking Team.
I don't unuderstand why people use Molar Boatworks Ishmael, when RR Ishmael is stronger and easier to clash with and Edgar Maid/Butler Ishmael would get buffs with Meur's ID passive and get someone who can crit for more damage. if anyone could explain I would be forever grateful, pleases and thank you!
tried a team like this and ended up getting a 59 turn run which I could've optimised more yeah its good, and that was when echoes was still broken and didn't apply extra count
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I went into RR4 with this team (I didn't have SL Gregor and swapped Hong Lu with Rodya for that rime shank) and somehow managed to shave 11 turns off my previous run of 74 turns total. In conclusion: sinking is goated
Sinking is pretty good
I genuinely still prefer having Hong lu be default for frivolous joke
Helps set up ego usage a bit easier which I feel is more critical for this rail way
God rime shank is so good
I mainly do like a sinking unga bunga team since you cant get an enemy below 45 sp, which is just
Wheath
Dieci Rodya (rime shank)
Solemn Sang
Butler Outis
Multicrack Faust
Lobotomy E.G.O : Ryoshu
going in basically blind with team similar like this and got 74 turn. i freaking love sinking
mvp actually goes to both bind ego cuz envy peccatulum is dumb
Thanks; with all the new tricks, looks like this won’t be as hard as I thought. I’ve been putting it off; need to get back into it.
To those who didn't get FoDB yi sang or gregor. Don't worry, I was able to get 65 with just erlking and molar Ish. Yi sang and greg do help alot against Nelly though.
1:00:30 rawest clash
i tried doing that with rodya instead of hong lu and i ended up ragequitting after like, my 30th attempt at the final section :')
still made it in less than 100 turns but damn, i felt every bit of funeral Yi Sang's Blunt weakness
The final section is easier than the third in my opinion, fighting the meta ids with meta egos + the damned sheep was something
If you could do the third section, the final should be in the bag
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919
I think the problem was i just E.G.O spammed at first, expecting it to work like last time, except i used all my resources on the precedent fight so ofc it didnt...
But the best way to go about it is really to try and nuke one or two ids per turn so the enemies' sanity plummets and you can keep the advantage
@@ramdomguymakingramdomcomme6853 i was super stingy in the 2nd and 3rd section with my ego (which caused a lot of resets), but it was all worth it when I get to spam the borrowed uptie 4 blind obsession every turn fr
yi sang currently needs someone else to pick up the sinking application, otherwise incredible asset for sinking teams
two more count positive ids on the level of linton gregor and sinking will be something unbelievably powerful
heathcliff wild hunt having 15 sp when counterattacking uses 3 skills
Used this team basically verbatim (except Chef Ryoshu for support healing) and got 74 turns. I could think of some changes to improve it (Butler Faust could be more useful for Fluid Sac, and Dieci Meur could provide Gluttony for Sunshower and some useful EGOs), but I’m not doing that again; Envys were an infuriating crapshow where you can’t even do the intended redirecting half the time due to their speeds and I often had to reset several times before everyone could clash anything, it’s almost impossible to get an SP lead even with healing and Sinking, and one bad roll or speed misalignment can insta-screw you.
They really should make sinking passive, like poise has yi sang, burn has liu hong lu and burn is the last status that needs it
*n i c e*
How is your hong lu constantly at 3 insight?
By using evade your current insight level won’t change. So if you discarded skill 3 from the start and keep spamming evade, you can keep 3 insight as long as you don’t activate the evade.
Defensive skills can't be discarded, thus if you have 3 insight you permanently keep it as long as there is an evade ready
@@geese3000 Oh wow thanks. Had no idea it worked that way
Once you discard an S3 and are up to 3, put your defensive skill up and keep using the top skill; the lower skill is covered by the evade, so the attack skill has nothing to discard and your Insight won’t change.
How essential is butler outis to shard?? i wont be able to get her till season 6 if i dont pick her up now.
But i have all the other butlers, is it that neccesary? i'll have to get a full 400 for her
well she applies 3 Echoes of manor and its really good with Yi Sang Bygone days EGO, it might worth a shard if you have the rest of team
If you have Butler Faust it is not too bad. If you don't have either of them 100% shard Outis, Echoes is just too strong a status to not have in a sinking comp
It depends on what you want sinking for. Mirror dungeon? You can get away without her. Story content? If you spam rimeshank enough you won’t feel her absence. Rr? Definitely do need her
Butler Faust is on par if not slightly better than butler outis
she is just more positive on counts
a diecisalt in the place of hong lu is worth it? due to the gluttony generation
Depends, wingbeats can be useful in the first part with Headless Portrait and Nelly cause slash weakness but outside of that, not all that needed. AOE ego are just more useful for Envy Pecc and their the hardest parts of this RR.
Personally, I think no; Dieci Hong Lu is arguably in the top 5 best ID in the game. Him being Sinking Count Neutral (Possibly even positive with Echoes of the Manor), makes him a no brainer on a Sinking Team.
I wonder if i can do this if i replaced dieci hong lu with dieci rodion and maybe replace butler outis with butler faust
why you don't kill portreit with Elking in 6:05? There was easy coffins
i did almost the same team (pre erlking) 98 turns
took 8h
Jeez, feel bad for you
I managed to do 68 turns with something similar just changing Butler Outis with Dieci Rodya
I don't unuderstand why people use Molar Boatworks Ishmael, when RR Ishmael is stronger and easier to clash with and Edgar Maid/Butler Ishmael would get buffs with Meur's ID passive and get someone who can crit for more damage. if anyone could explain I would be forever grateful, pleases and thank you!
molar is too count positive to give up. with her passive, all her attacks become at least count neutral and her skill 3 becomes a +5 in count
Molar ishmael is literally the best sinking unit in terms of actually doing sinking
tried a team like this and ended up getting a 59 turn run which I could've optimised more
yeah its good, and that was when echoes was still broken and didn't apply extra count
I feel like you could have gone a lot faster on stage 4. More AOEs and attacking downwards could have really saved you a lotta headache
I only have the ego and no ids 😢
Me seeing this with the shitty team i have that i call sinking team
unga bunga team better, 66 turns on my first run
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