Derivative of ln (x) using the definition of derivative

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
  • I used the definition of the derivative to show that d/dx ln(x) =1/x

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  • @WolfgangFeist
    @WolfgangFeist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Second last step: you need to use "continuity" of ln(x). (Because:with still finite x/h the term in the ln is not yet 'e').
    BTW: I love the way you are presenting this explaining every step (in a calm and friendly way). Most teachers try to do it in a hurry. That is the main reason, why some students get annoyed with math.

  • @SpiroGirah
    @SpiroGirah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I never thought of this! Good job!

  • @temporarychannel9759
    @temporarychannel9759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the enthusiasm made this really enjoyable to watch, great job

  • @barthennin6088
    @barthennin6088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful! 1st time seeing this truly from first principles!

  • @averagestudent5222
    @averagestudent5222 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This guy turns math into magic

  • @Th3OneWhoWaits
    @Th3OneWhoWaits 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:58 as h goes to 0, "n" or x/h goes to infinity. Thus, lim as h goes to 0 = lim n goes to infinity.

  • @boguslawszostak1784
    @boguslawszostak1784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you define ln(x) as the integral from 1 to x of 1/u du, you have no problems computing its derivative. It is equal to 1/x by definition of the function.

  • @ecSruthipriyaMahesh
    @ecSruthipriyaMahesh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like your classes, thank you for your hard work! 😃

  • @manoharkanade7383
    @manoharkanade7383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good explanation ❤

  • @sldw3221
    @sldw3221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello sir, i'm seeing that we always using definition of e with limit while proving all of these formulas but is it actually possible for you to explain or prove how or why limit n->infinity (1+1/n)^n is equal to euler's number? Did you record a video about this or would you talk about that in another video if it's possible? Thanks

  • @Harrykesh630
    @Harrykesh630 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just a suggestion 😁
    It might be too late to point out but, you could have started by first proving that ln(x) is indeed differentiable by Left and Right hand derivative then go on to find it.

  • @EliiiAkotha
    @EliiiAkotha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job

  • @alexdcruz3682
    @alexdcruz3682 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos

  • @wira2562
    @wira2562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's very useful to understand the inderivatived integral of dx/x sir!

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Use grouping symbols: (dx)/x

  • @wilsonhicke5598
    @wilsonhicke5598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this

  • @nellwackwitz
    @nellwackwitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are AWESOME!!

  • @surendrakverma555
    @surendrakverma555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good. Thanks 👍

  • @nichodimuszishiritinashe8329
    @nichodimuszishiritinashe8329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @sandraboateng5435
    @sandraboateng5435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @elai3147
    @elai3147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:31, as h goes to zero wouldn't x/h go to either positive infinity or negative infinity?

    • @xavierwainwright8799
      @xavierwainwright8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This works because lim x-> -inf (1+1/x)^x is also equal to e, but I don't know any proofs without using the derivative of ln(x) (this would be circular reasoning).

    • @tigergold5990
      @tigergold5990 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@xavierwainwright8799
      take lim x-> -inf (1 + 1/x)^x
      substitute w = -x, so as x -> inf w -> inf
      = lim w -> inf (1 - 1/w)^(-w)
      = lim w -> inf e^ ln((1 - 1/w)^(-w))
      bring -w out front with log rules
      = lim w -> inf e^( -w * ln(1 - 1/w) )
      rewrite the subtraction inside the natural log
      = lim w -> inf e^( -w * ln((w - 1)/w) )
      rewrite division inside ln as subtraction of lns
      = lim w -> inf e^( -w * ( ln(w - 1) - ln(w) ) )
      use the negative sign on w in the exponent to switch the order of subtraction
      = lim w -> inf e^( w * ( ln(w) - ln(w - 1) ) )
      recombine logs and bring the w inside as an exponent
      = lim w -> inf e^ln( (w / (w - 1)) ^ w )
      cancel the exponential and log
      = lim w -> inf (w / (w - 1))^w
      substitute w = n + 1, so as w -> inf n also -> inf
      = lim n -> inf ((n + 1)/n))^(n + 1)
      take out the base of the n+1 exponent to get rid of the 1
      = lim n-> inf ((n+1)/n)^n * (n+1)/n
      write limit of product as product of limits
      = lim n-> inf ((n + 1)/n)^n * lim n-> inf (n + 1)/n
      first limit is the normal form of the limit for e, second limit is easily calculated to be 1
      = e

    • @cblpu5575
      @cblpu5575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Recall that the domain of ln (x) is **positive real numbers only** hence x/h is a positive real number x divided by a quantity h tending to zero

  • @EternalScienceAndTech
    @EternalScienceAndTech 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a great man

  • @licksorestockpile1190
    @licksorestockpile1190 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid videos!

  • @salamalmudarris5032
    @salamalmudarris5032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But n is integer while x/h is real number?

  • @samwelkariuki3114
    @samwelkariuki3114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always the best teacher.....what about 1/x

  • @hassanejturay2994
    @hassanejturay2994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @katiatzo
    @katiatzo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BRAVO

  • @januszek1760
    @januszek1760 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    (1 + 1/(x/h))^(x/h) is not equal e

    • @Artemis1855-k4w
      @Artemis1855-k4w 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      as h approaches 0, x over h approaches infinity, if you replace x/h with a variable it's more legible

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He missed step when he used fact that ln is continuous

  • @joelmwape4239
    @joelmwape4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the best

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your kind words.