The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Responds to HRC Petition
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- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued the following statement through a spokesman following the delivery of a petition by the Human Rights Campaign:
Read more on Church Newsroom: newsroom.churchofjesuschrist....
Learn more about the Church's stance on same-sex attraction: newsroom.churchofjesuschrist....
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The perfect Church with the perfect doctrine. Thank you so much for continuing the example of kindness, clarity, and truth.
I always want to treat every person with love and respect independently on his or her life styles because everyone is a child of God in the best sense of that word.
We are all Brothers and Sisters - Let us Love One Another!
So well spoken, with so much love and concern for all!!!
CLEARLY spoken with LOVE!
Thank you to the person who approved my comments. I am happy to see this issue discussed rationally; it is a good thing to see.
God Bless !
yay for the Church being awesome as usual :)
AMEN THIS HAS MADE ME SO MUCH HAPPIER FOR BEING WHO I AM THANK U GOD,PLEAS ELET THIS VIDEO SPREAD
Yay Mormons! I've been looking for a church that adequately expresses my personal beliefs. Methodism is perhaps a bit soft. Pleasant. But soft... This is a church that takes a fair and firm stance.
I love his accent... But more so? I love what he has to say! Well said!
Me encanta su valentía y claridad para exponer las ideas de la iglesia. También exigimos respeto a nuestras creencias!
this was a good move for the church, they were being very mature
A good response, well thought out.
Excellent response. I can't imagine how anyone might possibly take issue with this response by the LDS Church. And how important it is that all parties be represented accurately and without slander.
I could not belong to a better church than this.
Church sucks
"His interest was always to lift the individual, never to tear down." 2:20-2:26
proud to be an afghan mormon~!!!
Wow. Great job on being clear about Christ-centered love and kindness. This is a difficult topic to discuss but I think it was addressed clearly and with love. Anyone who struggles in understanding this viewpoint should continue to study the LDS Churches family centered doctrine.
I am LDS and I love this statement, and for any who disagree,
"What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same."
Doctrine and Covenants 1:38
It's good to see a church with conservative values reach out and acknowledge issues such as these in a time when religion in general is becoming less popular.
"It’s not a sin to have feelings, only in yielding to temptation."
This is the LDS' church official stand. Get it right.
"Obviously, some will disagree with us. We hope that any disagreement will be based on a full understanding of our position and not on distortion or selective interpretation. The Church will continue to speak out to ensure its position is accurately understood."
...FINALLY i found a clear explanation of what the church beliefs in without me sounding rude or having a false or unclear perspective :D
we're to share Truth in all Love, and allow the Anointing to break through and establish the Way in our lives and theirs. Love NEVER fails. be led of the Spirit of God and you will know and see what is really Real.
its becuz of these reasons that i am proud to stand up and call myself a mormon and strongly defend it against closed minded people
Great video. Very Concise.
Excellent! Well stated.
Well said!!!
They have a right to believe what they want and set standards for their church.
I am a gay mormon... and I am so thankful that the church has spoken up and set the record straight. This clarification is much needed, because alot of members still look down upon us, even though we have taken an extreme act of faith... by committing to celibacy in order to keep worthy and hold true to the principles to the Gospel. This is one of the hardest things ever to do, and to face the fact you may never have a family while here on earth... Love and Compassion is what is most needed!
great video. thank you.
We believe if someone acts on romantic attraction to someone of the same gender, it's not natural & not good for emotional & spiritual health. It's not good for kids they might raise- they would be confused about gender roles and not reach full potential.
If your parents say you're not allowed to do something because it's not safe, that you might get hurt, or hurt someone else, you wouldn't consider them to not be loving parents, would you? We need to trust God like kids trust their parents.
@AMcGrath82 When in question, the senior Apostle Paul expounded upon the difference between lust and love. While addressing Timothy and the Galatian Saints by epistle, Paul listed the "works of the flesh" (lust) and the "fruits of the spirit" (love) and gave the eternal results of both----
The church rules!
Fantastic. Well said.
I want to know what is being said, CC close captioning be added to this for the deaf please.
@TennesseeSaint
Excellent post
There are many people who are in a moment in their lives where they welcome that message and invitation to learn more, but you're right that an example is enough in many cases.
This was very well worded. It covered the doctrine (as opposed to the culture and attitudes that sometimes exists) with in the LDS church. I wish I would've had access to this growing up so that I could have clearly understood that I can embrace and be loyal to my own beliefs by using good judgment while not judging others (and BY not judging others). I am grateful that I just get to be friends and enjoy those around me no matter what choices they are making in their own lives.
Tolerance and love between those who are different is a thing of beauty and win.
My two former business partners were Mormon. They conducted themselves in business with honor, honesty and decency. Did they attempt to convert me? Certainly, they did. One of them gave me for Christmas a book containing the Old & New Testaments, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine & Covenants of the LDS Church and The Pearl of Great Price [by Joseph Smith]. I judge a person's character by the manner in which they treat others. My experience says that Mormons are good people.
Very well said
Amen!
Well said.
@sffilk Please help me understand how disagreeing is equal to belittling. I disagree with others - sometimes strongly - on a wide range of topics, but that doesn't mean that I would belittle, or even dislike, them. I find the Church's response quite dignified - and civil.
@Brawn63 It's the Church's page. They can chose what they want to have on their site.
To deeply love with commitment and to express that love is never wrong in god's eyes however misinterpreted or condemned it may be by men.
@AMcGrath82 You are right. Thank you for making a level headed, thought out comment amidst the sea of trolls. The scripture must be read with proper context, and with the understanding that it has been written and translated by imperfect humans, thusly flaws and inconsistencies are bound to appear. It is up to the reader to seek the truth amidst the writings, and to discern the opinions of the writers from the word of god.
@jrmelvin right on!!!
I'm a Pentecostal minister, and I couldn't have said it any better.
@santitos2001 perfectly spoken @santitos2001 ! perfect. I applaud you!
@shandycho . Personally I find that we are all sinners that we should live judgement to God.
We as Christians abiding in Christ do not accept any sins that God calls abominations.I agree,violence has no place against another person.Love the person,Hate the sin.Joan Rogers
thank you for taking the time to talk about this and i think we can all agree to disagree... n we just need to stop hate comments to the LGTB because we are all sons of god
@EvilVillneff One Nation Under God and In God We Trust
You can love someone and still condemn their sin. That's all Jesus ever did.
Awesome! I'm Catholic. I believe our communities are in complete agreement on this issue and I hope that, despite our serious doctrinal differences, our combined voices on this issue will be able to show homosexuals in our society the love and respect they deserve and simultaneously preserve the traditional morality that is so critical to keeping our society strong.
jrmelvin-When you understand what "Separation of Church and State" means and why it was originally instituted, then please feel free to re-post.
P.S.- Don't look in the constitution for the answer because that's not where it originated!
I am a firm believer in allowing marriage rights to all, but I will say this is very well stated, and I wish more Christians would follow the same sentiment. I disagree with, but respect the view. I am interested to know why any Church or faith would take issue with allowing same sex marriages to be performed outside of any churches that do not allow or condone it. Not all marriages are religious in nature, and they are recognized as nothing more than contracts on a state and federal level. How does fighting to allow those of the same sex equal contract rights take anything away from the churches? Nobody would be allowed to force any church to perform same sex marriages (you can't even force them to do heterosexual marriages), so it shouldn't be an issue.
lindalds
I'm not sure I get the meaning of your first sentence, I know plenty of heterosexual couples that have gotten married because they want to.
As I stated in my initial comment, heterosexual couples can't even force a church to marry them, so even if a homosexual couple tried, there is no way that they would be able to either. If someone ever tried, even as an agnostic, I would be first in line to object to it.
I respect your beliefs on mothers and fathers raising Godly children, but I do not share them. I believe that as long as a child is raised in a loving, respectful environment, then that child will know how to treat others with love and respect. Your beliefs are fine for you, but you must also respect that not everyone is Christian or even religious in this nation.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts in a civil manner though, always appreciated. :)
@TheThelovelybeauty This is one of the most misunderstood and misused portions of Scripture! People who quote the phrase from Matthew 7:1, "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Most people will stop right there, and conclude, "Jesus said don't judge." But we've got to read on to see this in context, so that we can determine what he was really saying.
@taea04 "I may be wrong" I love it! Very true. I'd have a 'field day" analyzing a statement such as this! "I dont know why people are so concerned." Seriously? I think it's fine that people disagree, respectfully. I find it pretty easy to understand the beliefs of others. You simply have to "jump into" their mindset, or understand where they are coming from.
I stand with Glenn Beck, a devout Mormon, who has sent out a rallying cry against Vladamir Putin's persecution of Homosexuals. I also agree that changing the family institution to exclude a male or female role model at the head of a household is not a good idea. Have we not seen enough harm from children being raised without fathers in the home. It is possible to oppose persecution of gay people and also value the traditional family.
@Kushan250 Excuse me but I was wondering where you were quoting that from exactly?...
Finally, an indisputable and clear declaration of the Church's stance on same-sex attraction. I, like other members of the LDS faith, can see how this might be hard for some to hear, but I hope this news makes it clear that no matter the disagreement, there is never a need to belittle or demean others. I hope we as members can take that counsel as we interact with others of our faith who struggle with SSA, as well as those who happen to disagree with us.
This message couldn't have been said any better. The stand of all true followers of Christ is to love one another. Many religions including The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints embrace this doctrine of love. Christ does not condone sin, but he loves everyone, and we are all sinners. We are sinners that need to repent, and be saved by His grace. We all need to be washed clean through Christ's atonement. We don't pick which sinners to love and which to bully. I love this message
I wish it was President Monson making this statement.
This is the path to progress. Why can't more Christians think like this?
I am a Roman Catholic. I have friends in nearly all faiths. I consider Mormons to be Christians that believe in the Bible. They are family oriented with high values. They have earned my respect. It has not all been rosy. I almost at one point had to sue them and yet the bottom line is they came through for repairing our property damage. I back their views 100%.
I am not a Mormon but i do believe in what the Holy Bible says and Gods word is very clear on it. But we should all Love and Respect everyone regardless to what they are as we are all children of God. And only God can judge us as we cannot judge anyone.
@AMcGrath82 In Romans 1:24-28, Paul addresses this issue. Hope that helps. Enjoy your day :)
As an openly gay Christian who is in fellowship with the United Chruch of Christ and on a life-journey to Ministry work, I am led by God to acknowledge the Doctrine of The Church Of Jesus CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. On level with my personal relationship with God and Jesus, I am not inclined to believe that the way I was made (being gay) is wrong. I must, however, applaud my Mormon brothers and sisters for their concrence with the teachings of JESUS CHRIST of Love and non-violence. Praise JESUS
some of the people who commented clearly didn't listen to what he said.
@3lazyg Beautifully put my friend
this was good progress for the Mormon society. as a homosexual, i can't ask for anything more. kudos(:
@gratefulmouse I too, as a gay mormon, would like to hear if the church has an official position on us raising kids. Adoption would be the only hope of me having a family...
@MonkeyOfGG I cant begin to imagine the problems in your life and you have had to face! For this please know Im praying for you. Im a catholic, but one thing Ive learned. NO catholic is perfect. The saints are the first to admit they are sinners! But, please know just love trumps all things. Just because you see your self as going agains the teachings of the Church, please don't think that means your not loved and cherished! Take care and Know your important!
@ willimwillson
For what reason would the Mormon church need to apologize for anything? For having the same beliefs as many other churches and sticking to it? I find it amazing that depspite anything the leaders of the Mormon church say about its beliefs or stance on any issue, people find every excuse to find fault with it. Who are you to judge the sincerity of anyone? Only God knows the heart!!!!
i'm glad that he is doing this peacefully and bullying needs to stop i hate bullying. i'm a christian and i love god with all my heart but why can't we be friends with all people its cool that you have your opinion and i have mine but they are not monster we humans are afraid of change and new things its fine but they are people to they can love and be free to do whatever they want in life. we are made from the same dirt the same two people the same god we are all family we should care for them
I'm gay myself... I'm also a Buddhist... I have met a few Mormons in my life, but never an unkind or hateful one. They may disagree with same-sex marriage, but they treat me well. They're good friends of mine... and they have invited me to move to their city (West Valley City and SLC)... They say that LGBT people can live in peace and respect in their city.
Well... I personally believe that Marriage should be ONLY a religious ceremony with no legal recognition. Yes, I believe in the abolition of Civil Marriage. But I do believe that adult couples that love each other must have the right to legally register their partnership.
And yes, I do believe in same-sex adoption.
@Quietstorm143 u have hit the truth of the matter
I hope those that see this will understand- just as the Church has stated- that "we join our voice with others in unreserved condemnation of acts of cruelty or attempts to belittle or mock any group or individual that is different - whether those differences arise from race, religion, mental challenges, social status, sexual orientation or for any other reason."
@metallicarox80s Yeah, I just learned about the completely unprovoked Hans Mill massacre in seminary this morning. If that event in history doesn't tell you something, I'm not sure what will.
Any particular sin is not the issue at all. Paul said all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The question for every single person is that knowing you are a sinner ( and anybody over the age of awareness is ), when you stand in front of a righteous God ( by righteous I mean holy, perfect, unassailable) and make a reconing for your life, are you going to rely on your own actions which are circumspect already, or rely on the only sacrifice worthy of God's forgiveness.
I am surprised how many people liked this video. I hope members of the Church understand how important it is to reach out and to love people who have very different opinions than we do. Likewise, I hope that those who do not share our beliefs at least understand that we are not a "hate" church. This video's goal (from where I am sitting) is not to convert but to promote understanding. The only conflict that arises with is debate comes when someone has not done their homework.
I am not a follower of the LDS but I do follow my saviour Jesus Christ and reading thru these posts read Romans 1 and was amazed that this topic was spoken and so glad as I have struggled with claims that they are born that way or a man is born in a womans body. I still dont know everything but God;s word is clear about homosexuality. I always said God loves the sinner but hates the sin. This was a good thing the LDS did.
@Kushan250 Where does Jesus Christ condemn homosexuality? What passage?
@ismaithliombainne you are absolutely correct! one doesn't need religion or a priest to love another and be married. I can't believe someone would flag this as spam!
Hi Pantikian, I don't know about other religous people, but for us who belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly known as Mormons), we make a promise with God himself that we will share the truth (as we know it to be) with all who desire to listen. We are not commanded to preach to people even when those people are obviously not listening or against what we teach (not saying that all Mormon's follow this, there are some very zealous ones out there).
@TiVo2010: Just because you are gay, does not mean you are not loved, loved by your Father in Heaven. Being a Christian is not all about repentance - sure it is the way to salvation because Christ build that bridge with the cross for us, but it is only a piece of it. It is Faith, Remission of Sins, Baptism by proper authority, RECEIVING the GIFT of the Holy Ghost and enduring to the end. I am proud that you are strong and stand for your belief, that you have a relationship with God.
Who could possibly thumbs this down? Sad haters....
@AnglicanXn I agree with you up to one point and that is that our nation was created as a Republic. NOT a democracy! There are some major differences. I am not a Mormon, btw.
@XanderHamza What is it to politic anyway? It is the MEANS to purpetrate a specific END as one practices their profession. These "means" can be either beneficial (good) or else can be destructive (bad or even evil practices). Politicking can be dealing with people in an opportunistic, manipulative, or devious way, for the purpose of personal advancement and/or as a way to accomplish a mutual evil agenda. Churches have the moral responsibility to reveal the good and to warn of the evil.
Platitudes... Nothing more than platitudes. But I suppose at least they acknowledged the petitions that the HRC delivered.
@EvilVillneff We strongly encourage following our government. In fact, you can find an official declaration of such in the Articles of Faith, a very simple list of what Latter Day Saints believe and dictate their faith upon. "We believe in... Obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." Nothing our Church will tell us to do is illegal. However, we believe that our leaders have a right to help direct and guide us, even in political matters, where it may help our daily lives.
I believe there is a good way to handle things and a bad way you can tell someone in a nice way thats its wrong what they are doing and let them check it out for themselves and see but you dont have to treat them them badly I agree with what he is saying
@goofyreligion3 The Church's position has never changed on this topic. It speaks out in the same manner as it did in 1830 - explain the sinful nature of the action (yes, *action*, not "feeling"), and call people to repentance & to resist the temptation.
The Lord doesn't love us any less because we sin, regardless of the nature of the sin. Sure, He may get angry sometimes, but that anger is ALWAYS out of an infinitely deep love for us.
Brad Wilcox says it well:
In a democracy, everyone is allowed to have an opinion and to act on that opinion. To be effective in persuading others to share the same viewpoint, a person needs to be able to explain their reasoning behind their opinion. It does not matter what basis a person has, religious or otherwise, for that opinion - in America, we can act on it and advocate for it. And there are many reasons, religious and scientific, to say that same-sex sexual activity is harmful to society.
@jrmelvin
What are you talking about? What has the LDS Church posting its statement regarding homosexuality on this web site got to do with separation of Church and State?
Surpassingly well spoken. I was kind of expecting a sort of crusade against homosexuality. This is actually the stance that most (all) people should take at the very least. That regardless of other people's ideas, feelings, and beliefs, they still deserve to be treated like people.
Since the very beginning Jehovah (Jesus Christ) condemned all things that lead to our eventual destruction. We were given commandments to help us circumvent physical and spiritual destruction while receiving the blessings that this life has to offer as we walk on the "strait and narrow path" that leads to life eternal (eternal joy and happiness). I am grateful to understand these principles of success that he gave us through His authorized servants as found in the scriptures.