How Education Became Indoctrination: Dr Stephen Hicks

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  • - What is education? Why is that ultimately a philosophical question? What is the difference between education and indoctrination? How does indoctrination threaten education today? Is woke ideology antithetical to education?
    Stephen R. C. Hicks is Professor of Philosophy at Rockford University, Illinois, USA, Executive Director of the Center for Ethics and Entrepreneurship, and Senior Scholar at The Atlas Society. In 2010, he won his university’s Excellence in Teaching Award. He received his Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from the University of Guelph, Canada, and his Ph.D. in philosophy from Indiana University, Bloomington, USA.
    He has six books:
    Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault (Scholargy Publishing, 2004; Expanded Edition, 2011)
    Nietzsche and the Nazis (Ockham’s Razor, 2010).
    The Art of Reasoning: Readings for Logical Analysis (co-edited with David Kelley, W. W. Norton & Co., 1994, second edition 1998).
    Entrepreneurial Living (co-edited with Jennifer Harrolle, CEEF, 2016).
    Liberalism Pro and Con (Connor Court, 2020)
    Eight Philosophies of Education (co-authored with Andrew Colgan, forthcoming 2021)
    His writings have been translated into sixteen languages.
    00:00 How did Dr Hicks discover his passion for philosophy?
    02:56 Was there a particular book or idea that seized him?
    4:46 Why are all discussions about education ultimately philosophical?
    9:23 Which philosophical battles have had the greatest impact on education?
    13:37 What is the biggest philosophical battle in education today?
    19:53 Nietzsche has been called the 'grandfather of postmodernism'. How influential have his ideas been, especially his perspectivism?
    26:22 How is Nietzsche's view of the world as different power centres vying for dominance related to the Marxist concept of oppression?
    30:20 Do those who would aim at removing inequality need themselves to be in a position of power?
    32:14 Who will be given the power to fix society?
    35:53 Does the view that human beings lack agency explain attempts to stifle debate?
    41:00 Are we witnessing a weaponisation of language?
    48:06 To what extent does this weaponisation of language involve using it as a Trojan horse?
    51:34 Has the term 'education' been weaponised and hollowed out?
    55:06 How can concerned teachers resist the move towards indoctrination?
    59:28 Why is courage so important?
    1:00:39 What you hopeful about?
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ความคิดเห็น • 83

  • @StephenHicksPhilosopher
    @StephenHicksPhilosopher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I enjoyed this discussion very much. Thanks for the invitation, Will.

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're welcome, Stephen - thank you for your time and insights. I am looking forward to your upcoming book on education.

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is an issue that it's essential to be seen in its true light by educators everywhere. I trained as a teacher in Exeter, Devon in the 1970s and for my B.Ed. did the Philosophy of Education (basically because I was too tardy to join the rush to the psychology and sociology classes) and it turned out to be fascinating, not least because our main tutor used to say that he would mention the word 'education' every now and then but we were really actually studying philosophy proper. I think it would benefit most secondary school age children to do it, not least to get ahold of what we mean by things we talk about, especially since language is such a battleground nowadays. This conversation was a great listen. I have never lost my belief in the value of education or my love for the classroom since those days studying such an interesting subject.

    • @Ykpaina988
      @Ykpaina988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your work was introduced to me by Jordan Peterson thank you for doing these talks with people. I once thought about being a philosophy professor but was quickly disabused of this at a liberal arts university and further at a large public university. The zeitigest is sick.

    • @matthewcarpenter3137
      @matthewcarpenter3137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Equality and human rights blah blah blah. It’s a real shocker so called “Conservatives” have lost every cultural battle for 70 years. Progressivisms caboose.

  • @aletheiakurayio7447
    @aletheiakurayio7447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Top man. This is gold. What an insight into the victim mentality. The clarification on the bedrock of opposing or mutual ideologies helped me understand why I feel so far out of touch with most of the people I engage with.

  • @jl8750
    @jl8750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had an English teacher word for word tell the class “they’ll ask if you agree with socialism or not and if you say no, you’ll be marked down and have to explain why”, when it came to doing an exam on “an inspector calls” for our GCSE’s.

    • @nhansgoofyvideos7581
      @nhansgoofyvideos7581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where is this? West Taiwan?

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, that play is a mainstay for ideological reasons.

    • @18andcloudy
      @18andcloudy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol me when I invent a world where I'm victimized:

  • @phoneticau
    @phoneticau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Education is for learning not brainwashing.

  • @hannahgal
    @hannahgal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Such an important and burning topic. People are opening up to what is actually going on in education. We had full trust in teachers and unis for far too long. No Left Turn in Education is growing incredibly fast. I suggest interviewing the founder Elana Fishbein

  • @hannahgal
    @hannahgal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Intelligent. Informative. Great energy - well done

  • @sonderman8079
    @sonderman8079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great discussion indeed. Your channel should have lots more members. I am sure it will grow in time.

  • @aslamtu
    @aslamtu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very important discussion on timely topics

  • @david8905
    @david8905 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Leave it to Mr. Hicks to bring some clarity and understanding to the power debates currently raging in the West.

  • @1lobster
    @1lobster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I feel like this question would’ve been slightly more relevant 20 or 30 years ago before education became virtually indistinguishable from indoctrination.

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yes, important opportunities were missed - small mistakes at the start of something lead to big mistakes eventually.

    • @marinahayon9261
      @marinahayon9261 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yuri Bezmenov warned us many times in the 80s, but we didn't listen

  • @AlexanderMichelson
    @AlexanderMichelson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you, Sir! Godspeed!

  • @jabezstone4732
    @jabezstone4732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent show

  • @geoded
    @geoded 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic conversation guys

  • @stevejhkhfda
    @stevejhkhfda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great, and enjoyable seeing your enthusiasm about education. Dr Hicks is fantastic. I hope you have more of these interviews.

  • @tomwood555
    @tomwood555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic debates, new subscriber 😁

  • @mctheta249
    @mctheta249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seems to be an intelligent conversation about education. Regretfully not sure where or when this used to take place. Like reading about sex but never having any.

  • @basejumpingmonkey
    @basejumpingmonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An excellent exchange, thoroughly engaging and enjoyable

  • @sw.7519
    @sw.7519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great content.

  • @currentcommentor8745
    @currentcommentor8745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you wish to return to the role of a full time English teacher, may I recommend an old school 🏫 boarding school in Yorkshire. It's as old as Westpoint and still has monks about.

  • @cyama8679
    @cyama8679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Each Human being is unique we have our own thoughts in our own body in our own identity there is not equality for Per se, we are all different that’s the beauty of humanity what education is doing is to creating a certain type of line production of humans starting from the same line in arriving to the same point, at the same time.
    But there behind is a master mind thinking for us who is he? and who empowers him?

  • @alielmoudden1605
    @alielmoudden1605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo

  • @rhymeswithteeth
    @rhymeswithteeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems as though, at this point in time, in the power struggle between classical liberalism and postmodernism, postmodernism is winning.

    • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
      @EmperorsNewWardrobe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What exactly do you mean by postmodernism?

    • @rhymeswithteeth
      @rhymeswithteeth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EmperorsNewWardrobe Look it up.

  • @marinahayon9261
    @marinahayon9261 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yuri Bezmenov warned us many times in the 80s, but we didn't listen

  • @errorsofmodernism9715
    @errorsofmodernism9715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need to make clips of this one. He is a good guy.

  • @MetaTrendsMark
    @MetaTrendsMark 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should be taught in high school prior to indoctrination

  • @rhymeswithteeth
    @rhymeswithteeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the accusation of "racist", Ben Shapiro says the best response to someone calling you a racist (sexist, homophobe, islamaphobe, etc., etc.) is to say, "No, but you are an asshole. Now, do we want to discuss the issue or do we just want to engage in name-calling?"

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does Shapiro think anti-Semitism is different?

    • @rhymeswithteeth
      @rhymeswithteeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KnowlandKnows I suppose Shapiro's suggested response is in cases where there's no evidence of racism, etc., but rather, the word is just being used to try to smear someone with a false accusation and shut down debate. Why, has Shapiro unjustly accused someone of being an anti-Semite?

    • @TeaParty1776
      @TeaParty1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally wouldnt reply like Shapiro but I like his tone. The best response is noting that Leftists define racism as inequality, not a concern w/race.

    • @jusjustice2875
      @jusjustice2875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TeaParty1776 If the scenario is being called a racist while two individuals are engaging in a intellectual debate then the response should be articulating why you will not partake in this “anti racist exercise game” that is solely designed to distract the individual who was accused and the audience that’s attending from hearing a substantive debate. It’s a manipulative debate strategy that’s designed to make the individual that’s accused of being a racist to feel the need to explain and give examples to prove his innocence. In the marketplace of ideas that allows for free thoughts and ideas to be exchanged the truth will always emerge and prevail which is precisely why these radical individuals resort to name calling, insults, shouting down and interrupting because they know their ideas and ideology are based upon lies and fallacies and would completely crumble in the light of truth and reality.

    • @TeaParty1776
      @TeaParty1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jusjustice2875 If I understand, you agree w/me.

  • @edwardmclaughlin7935
    @edwardmclaughlin7935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something about a barn door and a bolted horse?

  • @Menapho
    @Menapho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Education has always been about indoctrination. Read the Powell Memorandum where former Associate Justice of The Supreme Court Lewis Powell writes to the Chairman of the Chamber Of Commerce. That business has lost control of the population and basically says that the institutions of indoctrination churches, schools and universities.

    • @TeaParty1776
      @TeaParty1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Education teaches man to focus his mind. Indoctrination teaches evasion and its rationalization, such as your subjectivism.

    • @Menapho
      @Menapho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeaParty1776 Oh that’s not true! It’s what is should be without a doubt. If you believe that the out our education is doing that you live in a place different than I. Isn’t it stated in the Powell Memorandum sorry I forget the exact quote by former Chief Justice Lewis Powell to the Chairman of the Chamber Of Commerce

    • @Menapho
      @Menapho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeaParty1776 Don’t know what happened there. Anyways I wish educators could teach in the manner you suggest. But the majority can not. Just as you are not able to know if I’m being subjective or not.

    • @TeaParty1776
      @TeaParty1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Menapho What exactly are you rejecting in my post?

    • @Menapho
      @Menapho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeaParty1776 there’s another response. I’m not sure how this happened. I’m sure that one will show up.

  • @harrygrowler33
    @harrygrowler33 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prussian mimicry -v- Trivium. Indoctrination -v- Education.

  • @EliW95
    @EliW95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it didn't 'become' indoctrination it always has been indoctrination to a degree, as public so called 'eduction' was always based on the prussian model of training subservience to an imposed belief in a supposed authority figure, especially the state and bosses in the workplace

  • @rhymeswithteeth
    @rhymeswithteeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good discussion, though I couldn't help being distracted by each man's choice, and placement, of wall art. Two clocks eight feet apart from each other? Odd.

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂 and cats everywhere. It was my friend's spare room where he stores loads of random stuff.

    • @michaelmcilrath9466
      @michaelmcilrath9466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Irrelevant. A red herring

  • @ozzy5146
    @ozzy5146 ปีที่แล้ว

    if the root of education should be freedom and self-discovery, explain to me why drag queen kindergarten is a bad idea.

    • @KnowlandKnows
      @KnowlandKnows  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The point of education is truth, not autonomy.

    • @ozzy5146
      @ozzy5146 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KnowlandKnows So what is metaphysically wrong about Drag Queen Kindergarten? That is, if science can't "prove" life is better than death.... so how is DQK bad? Or do you think science CAN objectively prove life is better than death?