Hi Professor Yaakov, Can you elaborate on the Steinmetz equations for modeling core energy/power loss, in relation to OEM data? In other-words, how can Steinmetz equations characterize or estimate these effects? Always enjoy your topics and explanations!
Ferrite materials also have a complex permittivity, that effects the capacity of the wire that traverses the ferrite, so it can be capacitive like any other inductor, even if the wires is just a straight wire. The models used are empirical fits in any case.
@@sambenyaakov I can’t speak for manufacturers, because they aren’t that transparent, but I’ve approach this with data fitting for my own simulations when the details matter.
Thank you for giving us this detailed examination of inductive parameters associated with magnetic materials. Could you possibly give us a video of how we might apply this data to a 'real world' example? This could be a problem of minimising interference or other - but it would be good to see how we might use the data to solve a problem rather than just use the 'suck it and see' approach which I could be guilty of in the past.
Hello Professor, many thanks for your great presentation. Are there any good programs/algorithms to fit the measured data to such a circuit as shown with the simple model or the precise model (see 15:19)? Thank you for every comment!
The use of complex permeability + Z (f) is probably why the analysis of the behavior of the ferrite equiv circuit differs from the manufacturer's simplified equiv circuit, which becomes INADEQUATE : for f>1 Ghz as shown in 15:38 and 17:59
What is the physical source for the imaginary permeability in the ferrite? I thought it was due to the hysteresis of the material, but am not certain if that is even an effect at these high frequencies.
I'm also interested what the Prof. will answer but I think it's a combination of the hysteresis as well as of induction of eddy currents in the ferrite material at higher frequencies. However I don't understand why us'' is then dropping at even higher frequencies. Inductors are still a bit of a riddle to me, I started looking at them just a few weeks ago.
Sir i have checked your website,it contains notes in Hebrew are there any English versions of your notes? It would have beena very great resource if sute is udated sir And any textbooks you refer to me as a student to learn basics sir??
I am sorry, the Hebrew videos are live recording of university lectures. No English version is available. Look up my TH-cam channel, many videos are bits and pieces of these lecture recordings. Good luck with your studies.
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Hi Professor Yaakov, Can you elaborate on the Steinmetz equations for modeling core energy/power loss, in relation to OEM data? In other-words, how can Steinmetz equations characterize or estimate these effects? Always enjoy your topics and explanations!
Starting with the complex permeability very good!. Thank you for the informative video.
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Thank you for detailed analzing of data.
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Ferrite materials also have a complex permittivity, that effects the capacity of the wire that traverses the ferrite, so it can be capacitive like any other inductor, even if the wires is just a straight wire.
The models used are empirical fits in any case.
Do you know for a fact that "The models used are empirical fits in any case." to experimental measurements?
@@sambenyaakov I can’t speak for manufacturers, because they aren’t that transparent, but I’ve approach this with data fitting for my own simulations when the details matter.
Thank you for another outstanding lecture with very clear explanations!
Thanks.
Thank you, very useful!
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Very interesting, thank you professor.
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Thank you for giving us this detailed examination of inductive parameters associated with magnetic materials. Could you possibly give us a video of how we might apply this data to a 'real world' example? This could be a problem of minimising interference or other - but it would be good to see how we might use the data to solve a problem rather than just use the 'suck it and see' approach which I could be guilty of in the past.
Have a look at th-cam.com/video/t9Gf0fbnK8I/w-d-xo.html there are many more relevant videos in my TH-cam channel.
That looks good. Thank you.
Hello Professor,
many thanks for your great presentation.
Are there any good programs/algorithms to fit the measured data to such a circuit as shown with the simple model or the precise model (see 15:19)?
Thank you for every comment!
Not that I know of but Omicron the makers of Bode 100 is about to release a software package that will do that. You can write to them.
pretty smart 🤯
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The use of complex permeability + Z (f) is probably why the analysis of the behavior of the ferrite equiv circuit differs
from the manufacturer's simplified equiv circuit, which becomes INADEQUATE : for f>1 Ghz as shown in 15:38 and 17:59
Thans for feedback. So, in your opinion which model is correct?
Hi Professor,
Does the imaginary part of the permeability and therefore Rs(f) represent the core eddy/hysteresis losses?
Yes indeed, but for small signal.
What is the physical source for the imaginary permeability in the ferrite? I thought it was due to the hysteresis of the material, but am not certain if that is even an effect at these high frequencies.
I'm also interested what the Prof. will answer but I think it's a combination of the hysteresis as well as of induction of eddy currents in the ferrite material at higher frequencies. However I don't understand why us'' is then dropping at even higher frequencies. Inductors are still a bit of a riddle to me, I started looking at them just a few weeks ago.
I think hysteresis and eddy current losses
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Sir i have checked your website,it contains notes in Hebrew are there any English versions of your notes? It would have beena very great resource if sute is udated sir And any textbooks you refer to me as a student to learn basics sir??
I am sorry, the Hebrew videos are live recording of university lectures. No English version is available. Look up my TH-cam channel, many videos are bits and pieces of these lecture recordings. Good luck with your studies.