Back in the day of custom haying with Dad in 1968 we put up wire tie bales of alfalfa at 125 pounds per bale from three John Deere 214 WS balers on a 1000 acre ranch four cuttings a year of pure alfalfa. We sold to dairiess in Western Washington State and British Columbia. We picked up everything with a Haro bed. I could stack 4000 bales a day. Sister ran the Swather (John Deere 880) and knock down a 100 acres a day. Mom , brother and Dad bales with dew on in middle of night and I stacked the next day it was a full on family operation.. Thanks for your video.
As someone from the outside looking it, I always thought it wa a just cut it, dry it, bale it and move on. But this video showed me that there is a ton more into it than that! Thanks for sharing!
You got it right for the small operator. Balers are about 35,000 each minimum. I dont know how much the stackers are, but say 30,000, Those tractors are in the 75,000 range. Kuhn cutters are about 10,000 each for a tractor that size, those rakes I'm going to guess at 8,000. Tenders in the 5,000. Plus he has the big extendable boom loader maybe 100,000. Some has maybe around $850,000 in equipment, plus fuel, twine, oil and labor cost. How can you make any money with that overhead? I put up about a 1000 small squares a year. I manually adjust my bale tension for a 40-45 lb bale. It messes up, my old John Deere stays running so I can make knotter adjustments. In the end, my hay costs about $3.50 per bale, to grow, bale, and put it in the barn. It is hot, hard and dirty work. I don't know how these guys buy all new equipment to bale hay.
My family had a successful dairy farm in SE Minnesota. About 500 acres and typically 175 cows to milk 2x a day. We bought a New Holland automatic bale wagon in the late 1970’s which saved our backs from stacking onto a wagon. I got to run it several times. My parents divorced and sold the farm in 1981 when I was 14. I miss the farm so much and like to tinker and fix my own vehicles enough that I’ve been renting pole barn storage for 22 years. The last 21 years on the same property. I’d go insane if I was stuck in the house all day with my mom.
Have to say its astonishing to see you guys make nearly what we do in a year in a matter of a few days, definitely the most impressive operation ive ever seen! And happy birthday Justin!
I always wanted to become a farmer when I was young, I was truly beyond passionate but I learned the hard way that I couldn't really be the farmer I wanted to be due to not being born into a farming family or having the good people around me at the correct time to eventually put me under their wings, with your videos I can cope with my situation, thank you boss !
Nothing is impossible son! There's plenty of TH-cam videos with all the information you need to become a farmer. Buy some land or farm and talk to farmer in the local community, start small and build your way up. Never quit on your dreams, I don't know your situation but I'm rooting for you!
@@arnljot9030 i dont know how profitable it is in usa but here where i live land is extremely expensive and you need 100+ hectares to get some decent money. other than that you need big loans to grow as a farmer
@@arnljot9030 man, loved your words. I just see great human beings here :) i started a farm with 10 hectares, just 2 are mine, people borrowed and i payed for a few of them. Its really hard, but im loving everyday, never learned so much in my life. I'm 22, got a 35hp 1970 leyland, a few implements and a some borrowed ones, last year i made total of one salary just for the business. Gonna buy a little john deere 5075e soon! Life is great, even with not much money :D if it was easy anyone would do it
You can do it! I'm thinking of buying some land now to start a farming operation. I don't come from money but the more I research the more I see it is possible. Agricultural loans are very forgiving and they work with you
In my early 20's, we would put up 10k small square bales each year. I stacked behind a thrower baler, and I was usually the one putting them on the elevator into the barn, so I touched them twice before anyone else. Would put up 80# alfalfa, and 50# straw bales. We used em for our Dairy, so I wanted as much in each bale as possible. I was in the best shape of my life then, and ate as much of anything I wanted. My 6 pack abs are now a keg😮 Great video!
That's a great farm organization you have going there! We use to do 15 to 20 thousand small squares a year, that we would send to Florida. We were doing them by hand though.... It's got too hard to get the help and our market dried up a bit, so we've moved out of the haying business. Which this year we were happy for as we could just NOT get the weather for taking good hay off this year!
There is a procedure that, if followed, will allow you to run the PTO on your Massey while not in the tractor seat. My dealer shared that info with me. The procedure varies by model. Great videos, great looking hay and haying process.
its cool to see that other countries do little bales too, here in germany we use those too, i got a Welger AP 42 baler with a bale shooter it does a amazing job but we dont put them down direct on the field we shoot them directly on to a trailer with a extension so you dont need a guy for packing
Andy from Farming, Fixing & Fabricating puts a pail & toolbox on seat of chopper so he can get out of cab to diagnose issues & keep part of machine running. He has even come up with pigtails that allows him to temporarily have the feeder chamber open to listen for strange noises
Back in the 80’s in my preteen/teen years on average per day a few of us would load around 2000 bales per day on trucks then pack in barns. With todays machinery putting out 14000 bales is amazing.
Last year they moved the rain up a day on me, I had 4700 bales on the ground and I got them all out of the field overnight just me and dad by hand after baling all day. He's 70 and drove the truck I stacked and our tag along elevator pitched them onto the wagon. Worst night of my life, oh and I also had Covid and was running a 104 degree fever the whole time. Still fighting covid lung a year later.
@@nwhittemore078855 I know that feeling, acres upon acres mowed, dried and ready... And then there's a shift in the feeling of the wind and black clouds appear. You just know you will work a year's worth of wear on your body in the next hours😂
@rolsen1304 I'm just glad we had enough trailers that I only had to unload 1 semi worth in the barn to get them all. Between 2 semi trailers,2 30 foot cotton wagons and 2 30+5 foot goosenecks we got them all. I slept on the ground for a few hours, didn't have the will or want to even drive the 1/2 mile home. Woke up at 10am to a major thunderstorm in a puddle of mud lol.
What county are you in? Here in Henry county we don't normally thead but we have at times. I spent much time on the wagon behind the bailer bucking bails. Then loading the heymow in the barn. We never had equipment like you have back in the the 60s and 70s. FARM ON!!!!!❤
You mentioned not running self propelled mower conditioners. Why do you prefer pull type? We run a pull type as well and upgrading it or moving to a self propelled.
Cool bailing video, o those days picking the many bails up throwing them (well you start throwing sort of goes into a heaving up after few hundred😂 ) onto a trailer in hot sun with usually a cider at the end with everyone 😅 good fun great fitness great memories 👍
That’s a serious tedder. Or, rather, a serious rake. When I grew up, we kids walked along, threw the bales onto a hay rack, and stacked by hand. But we didn’t make 14,000 bales. That’s some nice looking hay. Tall and thick.
When we had cattle and we had to purchase our hay we always would throw salt onto the round bales. This would help dry out any extra moisture in the hay and the cows would pretty much clean up the hay better between each bale.
I think after 2022 if you go to get a CDL at the DMV you can only get a automatic endorsement on or CDL. If you had one before that you are grandfathered in and can drive both automatic and standard transmission.
NIce family operation. I’ve got a massy Ferguson 5711. Love the dyna 4 transmission you could use that programmable rpm button set your rpm to the speed you want. Just hit the button and tractor revs up to the rpm you set. Lots of nice features on theses Masseys I can almost smell your hay. 👍🇨🇦
I've never run a Massey but every other tractor I've ever seen has a way to keep the PTO on when you get off the seat. Usually it's another button near the PTO switch. There's plenty of PTO work where the tractor us unmanned.
There is a learning curve/experience with any type of farming, it is an art. You might invest in a tedder to get a quicker turnaround and to help with mown grass that has been rained on. Putting up hay that has a higher moisture does increase the risk of fire. Good luck with the process, you are looking good for a first time using the equipment.
We did sell our hay bales but we ran 90 lbs bales and a newhollond bale wagon, or 3 flat beds, 118 bales per wagon, had milk caw set up 86 stall free stall barn 245’ long 5 silo’s 3 were haylage,2 were silage 2 20x80 and 3 15 x 60 silo’s
How does the size of the combined bales compare to what a Krone Big Pack baler would put out? Have you tried that kind of baler on a large baling operation like this?
Seems like their customers probably can't handle the big bales, and prefer the small ones. They can bundle and load them, and the customer can cut the bundles and handle the small bales.
That’s some thick hay. I baled some first cutting OG and I was going 1.8mph and was almost overloading the 575. Should have slowed 1.4mph. Made 118 bales/acre. 55# bales.
my dad had the weirdest career shift in his 50s... it kinda makes sense since he used to farm but he was like an engineer at the top of his game then all of us his kids graduates suddenly he got tired of the city life. leaves the city with mom and she was on board she got tired of the city too, and starts a farm life. all of us were confused cuz us their kids never grew up in a farm I mean both our gramps had one we like playing and staying there but farming was something that never clicked to us... but I like watching people work on it. but now I kinda dig it except I don't wanna dive into an industry I have no idea about and I'm already good at where I am.
Hello! I grow alfalfa in Kazakhstan, and I would like to visit alfalfa in the United States, which is the world's number one producer and exporter of alfalfa. Can you help me to recommend where is the best place to visit?
Back in the day of custom haying with Dad in 1968 we put up wire tie bales of alfalfa at 125 pounds per bale from three John Deere 214 WS balers on a 1000 acre ranch four cuttings a year of pure alfalfa. We sold to dairiess in Western Washington State and British Columbia. We picked up everything with a Haro bed. I could stack 4000 bales a day. Sister ran the Swather (John Deere 880) and knock down a 100 acres a day. Mom , brother and Dad bales with dew on in middle of night and I stacked the next day it was a full on family operation.. Thanks for your video.
Wire ties held most farms together 100 years ago. I still smile when I see them in a old barn.
GOD 🙏 bless all farmer's. Thank You for all you grow.
As someone from the outside looking it, I always thought it wa a just cut it, dry it, bale it and move on. But this video showed me that there is a ton more into it than that! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for tuning in!
You got it right for the small operator. Balers are about 35,000 each minimum. I dont know how much the stackers are, but say 30,000, Those tractors are in the 75,000 range. Kuhn cutters are about 10,000 each for a tractor that size, those rakes I'm going to guess at 8,000. Tenders in the 5,000. Plus he has the big extendable boom loader maybe 100,000. Some has maybe around $850,000 in equipment, plus fuel, twine, oil and labor cost. How can you make any money with that overhead? I put up about a 1000 small squares a year.
I manually adjust my bale tension for a 40-45 lb bale. It messes up, my old John Deere stays running so I can make knotter adjustments. In the end, my hay costs about $3.50 per bale, to grow, bale, and put it in the barn. It is hot, hard and dirty work. I don't know how these guys buy all new equipment to bale hay.
My family had a successful dairy farm in SE Minnesota. About 500 acres and typically 175 cows to milk 2x a day. We bought a New Holland automatic bale wagon in the late 1970’s which saved our backs from stacking onto a wagon. I got to run it several times. My parents divorced and sold the farm in 1981 when I was 14. I miss the farm so much and like to tinker and fix my own vehicles enough that I’ve been renting pole barn storage for 22 years. The last 21 years on the same property. I’d go insane if I was stuck in the house all day with my mom.
Amazing to see so many balers running. Happy Birthday Justin.
Thank you!
Happy Birthday Justin! sounds like you're a heck of a guy! Many more friend!
That is a very nice looking wall of hay. Happy birthday Justin. Bones looked right at home riding in the truck.
Bones is in for the long haul lol
Have to say its astonishing to see you guys make nearly what we do in a year in a matter of a few days, definitely the most impressive operation ive ever seen! And happy birthday Justin!
Thank you very much! We really try to exploit the weather windows when we can.
Its impressive, but the bales are also very small. Here in europe, a standard size bale is like 10x the size and weight
I always wanted to become a farmer when I was young, I was truly beyond passionate but I learned the hard way that I couldn't really be the farmer I wanted to be due to not being born into a farming family or having the good people around me at the correct time to eventually put me under their wings, with your videos I can cope with my situation, thank you boss !
Nothing is impossible son! There's plenty of TH-cam videos with all the information you need to become a farmer. Buy some land or farm and talk to farmer in the local community, start small and build your way up. Never quit on your dreams, I don't know your situation but I'm rooting for you!
@@arnljot9030 i dont know how profitable it is in usa but here where i live land is extremely expensive and you need 100+ hectares to get some decent money. other than that you need big loans to grow as a farmer
@@arnljot9030 man, loved your words. I just see great human beings here :) i started a farm with 10 hectares, just 2 are mine, people borrowed and i payed for a few of them. Its really hard, but im loving everyday, never learned so much in my life.
I'm 22, got a 35hp 1970 leyland, a few implements and a some borrowed ones, last year i made total of one salary just for the business. Gonna buy a little john deere 5075e soon!
Life is great, even with not much money :D if it was easy anyone would do it
You can do it! I'm thinking of buying some land now to start a farming operation. I don't come from money but the more I research the more I see it is possible. Agricultural loans are very forgiving and they work with you
In my early 20's, we would put up 10k small square bales each year. I stacked behind a thrower baler, and I was usually the one putting them on the elevator into the barn, so I touched them twice before anyone else. Would put up 80# alfalfa, and 50# straw bales. We used em for our Dairy, so I wanted as much in each bale as possible. I was in the best shape of my life then, and ate as much of anything I wanted. My 6 pack abs are now a keg😮 Great video!
Does anyone else have a non-farming career and finds haying vids incredibly interesting? Yes, I have Farming 2.0
I have a farming career and watch haying vids all the time lol
Happy birthday to a great man. You make him sound great
Super impressive operation. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for viewing and the comment!
That's a great farm organization you have going there! We use to do 15 to 20 thousand small squares a year, that we would send to Florida. We were doing them by hand though.... It's got too hard to get the help and our market dried up a bit, so we've moved out of the haying business. Which this year we were happy for as we could just NOT get the weather for taking good hay off this year!
How many acres did you have to pull that off?
@@RogerT-kt3zd around 150 acres.
There is a procedure that, if followed, will allow you to run the PTO on your Massey while not in the tractor seat. My dealer shared that info with me. The procedure varies by model.
Great videos, great looking hay and haying process.
Damn i would hope so. How else you suppose to run your grain auger.
its cool to see that other countries do little bales too, here in germany we use those too, i got a Welger AP 42 baler with a bale shooter it does a amazing job but we dont put them down direct on the field we shoot them directly on to a trailer with a extension so you dont need a guy for packing
Very cool man! Thanks for sharing
This was a great video, Thank you for making it so interesting
Happy Birthday Justin...great video. Nice to see a high volume haying operation.
Andy from Farming, Fixing & Fabricating puts a pail & toolbox on seat of chopper so he can get out of cab to diagnose issues & keep part of machine running. He has even come up with pigtails that allows him to temporarily have the feeder chamber open to listen for strange noises
Back in the 80’s in my preteen/teen years on average per day a few of us would load around 2000 bales per day on trucks then pack in barns. With todays machinery putting out 14000 bales is amazing.
I have done some of those 2000 bale days. Never again.
Last year they moved the rain up a day on me, I had 4700 bales on the ground and I got them all out of the field overnight just me and dad by hand after baling all day. He's 70 and drove the truck I stacked and our tag along elevator pitched them onto the wagon.
Worst night of my life, oh and I also had Covid and was running a 104 degree fever the whole time.
Still fighting covid lung a year later.
@@nwhittemore078855 I know that feeling, acres upon acres mowed, dried and ready... And then there's a shift in the feeling of the wind and black clouds appear. You just know you will work a year's worth of wear on your body in the next hours😂
@rolsen1304 I'm just glad we had enough trailers that I only had to unload 1 semi worth in the barn to get them all. Between 2 semi trailers,2 30 foot cotton wagons and 2 30+5 foot goosenecks we got them all. I slept on the ground for a few hours, didn't have the will or want to even drive the 1/2 mile home. Woke up at 10am to a major thunderstorm in a puddle of mud lol.
I was just trying to find most efficient farm runs to lvl 99 in RuneScape and get fed this video. Glad it popped up
Happy Birthday Justin! 🇺🇸
Bro I love farmers! Respect!
What county are you in? Here in Henry county we don't normally thead but we have at times. I spent much time on the wagon behind the bailer bucking bails. Then loading the heymow in the barn. We never had equipment like you have back in the the 60s and 70s. FARM ON!!!!!❤
We are in Medina county. Farm on!
Nice video and I hope you guys get some rain we just got 3.25 inch in central Alberta to make our season total 4.5 inch
We did finally get some! just in time for some teff to start growing. It was a real gift
@@FarmingInsider it was very dry here our alfalfa was going backwards
@@aidenkoster6427Lol, fast forward 5 days, I think we’ve received over 7 inches in Edmonton over the past week. The cricks are a’ flowin’.
@@happycanayjian1582 we are at about 4.5 inch south of red deer right now
You mentioned not running self propelled mower conditioners. Why do you prefer pull type? We run a pull type as well and upgrading it or moving to a self propelled.
Cool bailing video, o those days picking the many bails up throwing them (well you start throwing sort of goes into a heaving up after few hundred😂 ) onto a trailer in hot sun with usually a cider at the end with everyone 😅 good fun great fitness great memories 👍
As long as all that labor stays a memory haha. We like the bundle system
That’s a serious tedder. Or, rather, a serious rake. When I grew up, we kids walked along, threw the bales onto a hay rack, and stacked by hand. But we didn’t make 14,000 bales.
That’s some nice looking hay. Tall and thick.
Nice operation and great video!
When we had cattle and we had to purchase our hay we always would throw salt onto the round bales. This would help dry out any extra moisture in the hay and the cows would pretty much clean up the hay better between each bale.
I think after 2022 if you go to get a CDL at the DMV you can only get a automatic endorsement on or CDL. If you had one before that you are grandfathered in and can drive both automatic and standard transmission.
Very interesting job how many Acres this farm? Thank u
Happy Birthday Justin.
:)
NIce family operation. I’ve got a massy Ferguson 5711. Love the dyna 4 transmission you could use that programmable rpm button set your rpm to the speed you want. Just hit the button and tractor revs up to the rpm you set. Lots of nice features on theses Masseys I can almost smell your hay. 👍🇨🇦
I need to look into that feature more for sure
Who are your customers? Cattlemen? Horse people? Who? Thanks!
We sell almost exclusively to horse customers
Power stations ???✌️✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧
Vegans 😂😂😂
Happy Birthday!!Justin
I've never run a Massey but every other tractor I've ever seen has a way to keep the PTO on when you get off the seat. Usually it's another button near the PTO switch. There's plenty of PTO work where the tractor us unmanned.
I bypass every safety switch I find. The only one I find any use for is the neutral safety switch to start it. The rest are nothing but a PITA.
Happy birthday Justin!!
:)
Bailing sure has come along way since I was a kid we had one farm that was good for 8600 bales each cutting and we did it it all by hand.
That’s honest work!
@@FarmingInsider Thats not honest work ,,thats back breaking work ,, ive done it,,
@@clodhopper946It's still honest work, just not EASY work.
Happy birthday Justin.
:)
There is a learning curve/experience with any type of farming, it is an art. You might invest in a tedder to get a quicker turnaround and to help with mown grass that has been rained on. Putting up hay that has a higher moisture does increase the risk of fire. Good luck with the process, you are looking good for a first time using the equipment.
Hey Mate
What type of moisture probe do you use? Looks super fast.
Also what type of bale scale were you using on your 1840?
Thanks
We did sell our hay bales but we ran 90 lbs bales and a newhollond bale wagon, or 3 flat beds, 118 bales per wagon, had milk caw set up 86 stall free stall barn 245’ long 5 silo’s 3 were haylage,2 were silage 2 20x80 and 3 15 x 60 silo’s
How much diesel did you guys burn .
Have a guess
in the area i live , most of the time you see Roundbaler and sometimes Bigbaler , but Smallbaler i havent seen in years
It’s very popular around here
Happy Birthday Justin!
How do you like the silo king, do you like it better than a liquid preservative?
Happy Birthday Justin
:)
شكرا لك اخي تحياتي لك من المغرب 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Greetings!
Happy Birthday JUSTIN
:)
Good Job, 'TeamWork'
How does the size of the combined bales compare to what a Krone Big Pack baler would put out? Have you tried that kind of baler on a large baling operation like this?
Seems like their customers probably can't handle the big bales, and prefer the small ones. They can bundle and load them, and the customer can cut the bundles and handle the small bales.
Happy birthday Justin
:)
That’s some thick hay. I baled some first cutting OG and I was going 1.8mph and was almost overloading the 575. Should have slowed 1.4mph. Made 118 bales/acre. 55# bales.
That’s some good yields!
Isn't
Happy birthday Justin hope u had a good day
Are the barons new? you had arcusins last year right?
Yes they are. 2022 models
happy birthday justin! great job!
Happy Birthday ❤Justin
Pretty great organization!
Where’s the silage setup been? You get rid of it or no customers needing it done?
Your spraying preservatives on the hay?
How many cuttings of grass per year?
we shoot for 3
Happy birthday Justin from all at Weighay .
Where is it ?
Can u talk about all the different gizmos u put in tractors to make the balers better and what works better for you and why you use them
Sure, I’ll do it more next video
Weight, Moisture, Fan Keeps Knotters Clean, Silo King keeps bales from heating and molding/sweating if they're a touch too moist
Happy birthday Justin! 🎊
Brilliant video keep the comming Patrick in Ireland 🇮🇪
What number twine do you use in the barons ( knot strength)?
we use 440
Do you ever sell bales in Mt Hope, Oh?
I didn't realise baling was such an intricate thing to do. Dialling everything in just right.
How do you guys keep the hay weed free? do you guys use fertilizer? if so what kind and how often... thanks!
my dad had the weirdest career shift in his 50s... it kinda makes sense since he used to farm but he was like an engineer at the top of his game then all of us his kids graduates suddenly he got tired of the city life. leaves the city with mom and she was on board she got tired of the city too, and starts a farm life. all of us were confused cuz us their kids never grew up in a farm I mean both our gramps had one we like playing and staying there but farming was something that never clicked to us... but I like watching people work on it. but now I kinda dig it except I don't wanna dive into an industry I have no idea about and I'm already good at where I am.
I know we would get tired of the city but it would be tough to just dive into this
My Goodness this is brilliant ❤️👌
I ve not seen a rake system that you use what kind of rake do you call it ... brand
I’m 22 and would love to drive doing this in a manual wish I was closer to wherever this is
What town is it in❤❤❤❤ in you guys do amazing and hard work
We are in mostly Medina and Lorain county, Ohio. Thank you!
What is the name of the preservative product you apply as the hay is baled?
Silo king dry hay
@@FarmingInsider What applicator control?
Man, cure your hay properly and don't put that stuff on horse hay.
@@stage4roush Gandy Box
Great videos, grew up on small farm, near alliance ohio
Very cool! thank you!
Do you guys just run tarps underneath the bundles? If so, is there ever any spoilage that way ?
Correct, we just get 6 mil plastic from Home Depot. As long as the hay is dry there is zero spoilage
Any new videos coming up?? Thanks
Why do you not do round bales?
Better margins on little squares
What is (brand) your moisture meter
Delmhorst
Got to ask who is your Massey dealer ?
What does a bale Baron do?
It bundles up 21 bales together
What methods of advertising do you use to reach all over the country?
well done video
How many small bales are in one big block bundle?
21
Hello! I grow alfalfa in Kazakhstan, and I would like to visit alfalfa in the United States, which is the world's number one producer and exporter of alfalfa. Can you help me to recommend where is the best place to visit?
Do you feel any younger happy birthday Justin
Good video.
Thank you sir!
what moisture tester are you using
Delmhorst
i had one customer tell i should make 80 pound bales. we are so wet here in Colorado, we cant cut hay i should of had it up a couple of weeks ago.
Oh yes, they can never be heavy enough and cheap enough for many customers lol
3 ties I guess
3 ties I guess
80 lb bales, but you are not baling grass hay I bet.
I love your channel
Your the best😊
you're the best! thanks for the support
@@FarmingInsider Glad to see you know bailing and the difference between your and you're.
Happy Birthday Justin !!!!!!🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉
:)
How much you sale one bale and what is the weight?...😊
40-50 lbs. price varies depending on product
Looks like silo king bags in the side by side.
That’s right!
Hay is hay. Its sold by the ton. Whats all the hubub?