He said worst pick in his lifetime. He must of started football this year because Jarmucus Russell is just one of them. I’m 100% he was worse than Baker will ever be lol
I loved him until the draft process started when he somehow went from a 2nd or 3rd round pick to everyone's #1 QB. I like his personality. Reminds me of Philip Rivers, one of my favorite players in the league. But as a football player? Hard pass. He's a College QB thru and thru.
That Franchise Guy sorry dude like your channel but ur still not giving an answer on why he such a bad pick. I like baker he has all the right traits and if he’s 2 inches taller he would be number 1 easy
Baker is the only quarterback that doesn't have a blaring problem. Sam darnold is a turnover machine. Josh allen had no fucking accuracy and never plays good in big games. Josh rosen has durability issues(my favorite QB) and mayfield just has a video of him being stupid but I'm pretty sure he has matured but i would say Rosen is gonna be the best and mayfield is gonna be a second with a close third in lamar but I don't like that fact that sam darnold has all the turnovers just makes me worry but he's still gonna be great regardless
The Baker pick is turning out to be one of the better pick all time and you called it the worst in your lifetime. And don't forget Denzel who is leading CBs in pro bowl votes...AS A ROOKIE. That's laughable
@@AllDueDisrespect You win some takes you lose some. His Darnold take was fairly common at the time sure it hasn't aged the best but you can't hit on every pick
@@daltonsali4122 You're absolutely right, I'm just saying there's a reason Baker went number 1 lol. There were plenty teams that didn't trust Darnold. He's had some good takes as well though!
i will not watch you ever again. If you are going to do a draft grade video, do some research. Baker doesnt hit all of the throws? most accurate passer in college football history. MMQB just said he had the second strongest arm as well on terms of velocity. your analysis is flawed. do some research bro!
Powerlifter83 I’m a dipshit because I disagree with somebody? Intelligent discussion. Tebow didn’t hit all the throw btw. Watch film. Russell had a cannon but was immaculate and lacked any work ethic.
nalterdeeds it’s my opinion. I won’t watch him. I never have. I stumbled upon this video. I watched the first part and couldn’t get through it. He gave a team an f- and his reasons were inaccurate and uneducated on the topic. It’s my opinion. You can have yours as well. You two obviously like his videos and agree with him. That’s completely fine. I think he should do more research than spouting atrocities because he doesn’t like the guy.
@@DrippaDre baker take is obviously one of the worst all time Ward one has aged terrible too Rosen was a big bust Jarie Alexander take was awful So not too bad but man that baker take has aged so horrendous 😭
Grades From the future (2020 week 3) Baker Mayfield: C+ They still have no clue if he's good or he sucks, but rookie year was fun Saquon Barkley: B- Great player that did nothing to make the team better. Giants still suck, saquon couldn't change that Sam Darnold: D+ He hasnt done anything yet Denzel Ward: A Turned into a fantastic corner, well worth it Bradley Chubb: B- Been solid when he plays, but has had injury problems. Has not been the elite talent he was hyped up to be Quenton Nelson: A+ HOF player, turned the line around Josh Allen: B+ Finally showing all of his promise Roquan Smith: B Hasn't been special, but not bad Mike McGlinchey: B+ Turned into a good RT, helped them make it to the super bowl Josh Rosen: F Traded for a second round pick, currently on a practice squad. Oof Minkah Fitzpatrick: B A solid player, but got traded away for a first only 2 years later Vita Bea: B+ Been an elite run stuffer, starting to become a good pass rusher, one of the best NT in the game Da'Ron Payne: B Been solid, part of a great defensive front in washington Marcus Davenport: C- Shown flashes, but not much more and can't stay healthy Kolton Miller: B- Been a solid starter at tackle for them after a rough rookie year Tremaine Edmunds: B Shows signs of becoming a fantastic lb but hasn't quite reached that potential, still very young Derwin James: A Elite player, only problem has been injuries Jaire Alexander: A Been a very good cb 1 for the Packers Leighton Vander Each: B Had a great rookie year, but since has had constant injury problems Frank Ragnow: B+ Been an excellent center for them, well worth the pick Billy Price: D Has not been a good starter at all, a liability on that line Rashaan Evans: B Solid pick, been pretty good, but still yet to become an elite starter Iasaih Wynn: C+ Been good on the field, but injuries have held him back DJ Moore: B+ Been a good, productive wr1 for them Hayden Hurst: C- A solid player not worth a Rd 1 pick, was beaten out by a third rounder, then traded for a second rounder Calvin Ridley: B+ Become an excellent 1b to julio jones Rashaad Penny: D+ Shown some talent, but took a long time, and has been held back by injuries Terrell Edmunds: C Been a starter, but not great. A bit of a liability in the secondary Taven Bryan: D Has not done much of anything since being drafted Mike Hughes: B- Been solid, but struggling as CB 1 in 2020 Sony Michel: C+ Played a key role in a super bowl run, but had injury problems and been an inefficient runner Lamar Jackson: A++ MVP, 23-3 as a starter (or something like that). One of the best QBs in the league
I don’t know how you think Mayfield is soo much worst than Darnold cause that guy is terrible turn on the tape he’s not that good to say up here with luck is a joke a half Baker is gonna be a stud in this league I can’t wait for him to prove people like you that he belongs
XxCuLtxX1213 He definitely will this guy is just bias Darnold had 23 turnovers in 13 games I don’t think that’s something you want from a ‘franchise quarterback’
Just one comment about Bakes that everyone has wrong, he has the highest completion percentage for the majority of NFL type throws (he's by far the highest for over the shoulder). As a passer Rosen is the only one who's more NFL ready.
Bryan Cherry well let's look at how each of them play. Rosen Allen and White are all born natural leaders who aren't too cocky and are extremely accurate (mainly Rosen) Lamar Jackson is the best scrambler of the bunch which can translate good in the nfl Mason Rudolph has the strength and Darnold you might can argue i don't really like him too much either but I think he's better
Baker can't make all the throws? You lost all credibility after that comment and the offense at OU isn't trick plays they run RPO's which NFL teams are starting to adopt. Good job
Elijah Mahone Josh Allen would’ve been better and if your drafting number one you take a guy that has the chance to be a top QB, he’ll never be top 10.
@@DrippaDre bro let's be real nobody knew josh was gonna be that good nobody I never saw anybody but hills fans when they drafted him say he would. That's good for him but I'm happy with baker he's growing slower then the others but he's also had the 2nd most dysfunctional franchise out of all of them.
I'm a Browns fan. I am absolutely pumped for Baker Mayfield. He is the one I wanted. I think Darnold will struggle, Rosen has talent but I question his want to stay in the game and Allen will be a hard bust. Great draft so far for Cleveland. Go Browns!
Neph0423 he is the best quarterback in the draft this guy didn’t know wtf he was talking about I thought NYJ wanted Darnold that’s why I would’ve taken the chance
Honestly baker is the best qb in the draft ,just cus your 6'1 doesnt make you bad ,and after losing their best cb Denzel ward was the best replacement for the browns ,randall was not the replacement for their secondary
Man, 5 years later, I know you've said it before, but some of your takes for these players were crazy. You were a more harsh on Baker than I remembered. He did do some good in Cleveland but younwere right when it came to his downsides/cons.
Extremely confused with the Steelers pick, I have a terrible feeling this is going to backfire tho you can probably tell, I desperately hope it doesn't
Your saying baker is the worst pick you’ve ever seen. He can legit turn an almost sack into a scramble first down. He’s a more accurate Russell Wilson.
Dude Franchise, I simply have to disagree with you on Baker! Baker is your Andrew Luck while Sam Darnold throws too many picks, Allex has a fall as well he just a big arm guy, and Josh Rosen is just there. Baker and Lamar are the 2 top Qbs in this class and I like that the Browns picked Baker as he can either start or learn from Tyrod for a year. Just because he is small, doesn't mean he won't succeed as Brees and Russell are small for the QB position but they do amazing at their job. Baker is not Case Keenum like you say he is, he is a top QB who is gonna lead the Browns to a championship one day. I simply disagree with this grade and I would an answer from you at some point. Also just because he is from the BIG 12, doesn't mean he is gonna suck as there are quite a few Qbs from the BIG 12 that are good like Tory Aikman, Patrick Mahomes(very soon), Vince Young, Andy Dalton, etc.. So again prove me on Baker and then I will agree with your opinion.
Way too hard on the Browns and Baker Mayfield. If you think Baker Mayfield is the only one running that type of offense you are wrong. Nothing ''trick play'' about it. Its the spread, if it was trick play offense then Rosen is right there with him. You could say that about just about any QB in college football, you cant deny Mayfield is electric. Josh Rosen ran air raid at UCLA at went 6-6. Mayfield walked on TWICE and won the heisman. Cmon dude. Mayfield may very well be Case Keenum but you're hating hard on him
Regardless of what people say baker mayfield and Lamar Jackson were the best quarterbacks in the draft, they both are the only heisman trophy winners. They didn’t win it for no reason. And darnold is a bust no doubt turnover machine.
RomeDa515 I actually had the Chargers taking James in my mock draft, one of the three I got right lol, but I wanted him to go to my Seahawks, but congrats
Mayfield best quarterback in the draft, Barkley best player in the draft not just running back, Darnold has good potential but is very flawed, Rosen probably 2 in the class in terms of QB, Josh Allen is a major project great size, arm but not very accurate and Ravens absolutely fleeced the draft with the value they got and then got Lamar Jackson who has the most potential in the draft.
I know I'm months late, but I have to clear things up about your "grades" Baker Mayfield: they were between him and Allen, but after Allens tweets came out, it was a done deal for the pick. And the last RB to go 1st overall won the Heisman and lasted 4 years in the NFL Denzel Ward: they needed CB and they were trying to shop Jamar Taylor anyway so that raises that need even more. And if they took Chubb, they would have to pay 3 or 4 players 100 mil in 4-5 years; Garrett, Mayfield and then Chubb. And that would be 300 mil just for 3 players, not going to happen anytime soon Billy Price: he was a near guaranteed 1st rounder until he injured his arm in bench press at combine. He can play center and even OG so he offers versatility and he is a good run blocker and surprising pass blocker Terrell Edmunds: I'm a Steelers fan (well I'm born and raised here so I kind of have to like them, but I want a new team) and I didn't even know who he was. But after listening to Mike Mayock and them talk about his versatility and then going and reading his scouting reports, I think they drafted him to be more of a cover LB and play a Deone Buchanon rule. Still a reach, but after releasing Mitchell and Golden, their only other possible starting safeties were Davis, Burnett and really no one else so they needed at least 1 more. Not to mention Davis is a loose cannon, can't tackle and is a bit of a liability in coverage. And Burnett is on a very short contract and possibly nearing the backend of his career and won't improve above average. (I was hoping for either Sony Michel, to replace Bell next year. Will Hernandez to replace the aging Foster within the next year. Arden Key, because they will HAVE to use an UDFA, luckily a decent one, as a number 2 guy. Sam Hubbard, to come in as a pure pass rushing DE and give them the chance to move Tuitt. Courtland Sutton, since they have been trying to, and finally succeeded, move Bryant. And they need a tall target because Brown is a possession guy and JuJu is more of a speed/power guy, plus they needed a new number 3 in front of DHB and Hunter. Then either Jesse Bates, for a better Sean Davis, or Justin Reid for a Tyrunn Matheiu kind of player )
MOOSE 8200 what the fuck? Cam?! You brought up Cam as an example of Bakers athleticism translating? I’m genuinely surprised when I look in these comments and see how dumb some of you are.
You said the Pats have never invested in a RB in the Brady/Belichick era? They drafted Laurence Maroney in the 1st round. Granted, he wasn't very good, but what you said is still incorrect.
Imagine calling Baker the worst pick you’ve ever seen, you’re the one who had Nathan Peterman as your QB1 the year before. #NeverForget Not to mention, a lot of these other grades were horrendous 😂
I’m not happy with mayfield but he is no were near a f the guy can play I’m a browns fan the picks weren’t great but they are not bad picks and he’ll be throwing to Good players you need to adjust your grades
AcgxMontay AcgxMontay I’m excited for you guys this year your receiver room in stacked Jarvis Landry, Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon?! Not to mention David Njoku at tight end!! I just wish you would’ve gotten Barkley at 1 because everyone knew NY wanted him at 2 you could’ve easily got Mayfield at 4 the browns messed up there. I’m Hoping at least 5-11 for you guys, Goodluck
What about him giving the best player in the draft a C-? Then he lists all of the HOF backs without SB wins? Why not list the HOF backs with SB or pre-SB NFL championships? Just another guy in love with Sam so much he threw out a great player and pick for Giants.
I am not a Browns fan But Baker Mayfield is a great pick his arm is great he is good in the pocket he can run has great accuracy he going to be good you should just wait for it
We will see. I love his fire, reminds me of Rivers. Would be fun to see him resurect Cleveland. But his tape gives me no reason to think his game translates to the next level like many Heisman winning QBs before him.
This was my first class doing this for real so it was definitely a learning experiment. Never should have taken that stance on Baker, cause I was simply wrong.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy I appreciate the comment back! To be fair, that draft was so hard to call. Sam Darnold could also still have the higher ceiling. I mean.... Adam Gase.... that's tough 😂
That Franchise Guy I think the only teams to worry about is Eagles and Minnesota. This is despite the seemingly improvement of alot of the NFC during the off season.
Welcome to the inevitable draft cliche of Iowa players getting overlooked in the first round for inferior players. The fact Daniels slipped to round 2 is simply ridiculous. The NFL front offices know how well Iowa O-lineman translate to the pro level. As for Jackson he is going to ball so hard in GB just like Hyde did for them and Mike Daniels still does.
Daniels im pretty high on having a good career. Jackson I'm not as sold on as I was desmond king last year, but I guess king was drafted 3 rounds later so we'll see. If jackson's speed isnt too big of a problem, dude will ball. Just dont expect him to be man covering tyreek hill or will fuller
Jackson is not a man coverage DB. I keep hearing from many places he'll be part of the nickel package possibly with GB to start which I think works to his skill set better. Jackson is however a ball hawk and that is needed in the NFL badly by all teams.
First time I've ever watched this, gotta say I felt the exact same about the Terrell Edmunds pick. Biggest reach ever. This was right around when Colbert started fumbling drafts.
Love your videos. But I hope you have to eat your words about baker. Obviously, he can’t be a franchise qb by himself. But with his rally ability and his undeniable determination and ability to learn I’m sure he’ll develop fast. To us looking in, it looks shitty. Darnold was the safest pick, but Cleveland, a business, saw an opportunity no one else did and that’s how business goes sometimes. Outsiders never truly know what’s going on. I just hope he brings the same intensity as he did in college.
I actually disagree in that Baker is the safest pick. But Darnold ceiling is so much higher I dont see how you make this pick. I'd rather go Tyrod and Draft Saquan.
Lol You really hate baker. That’s like taking Brock osweiler over Russell Wilson or drew Brees because of height. Really dumb point. He had nearly 70% completion in college compared to every other qb’s crappy stats. Not to mention his competitive nature. Prepare to be incorrect.
It’s because baker is better than all of them he played amazing in big moments game winning drive he made all the throws I watched ever game of baker he makes the thrown and saying his mobility won’t translate yea he’s not going to be like a Michel Vick but more like a Aaron roger it’s crazy u like Sam better all he done is fumbled and threw the interception and josh Allen can’t throw the football straight josh Rosen is worried about politics I just don’t get it he has the best film out of all of them and you can’t tell me the usc team was terrible he could have got more when it’s not just the big 12 d because he played amazing against Ohio st said by urban Meyer he played amazing versus auburn in the sugar bowl he played amazing against Georgia call me crazy but his game is more like Aaron Rogers
Gives Mayfield an F- but gives Allen an A. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. Downgrades Mayfield for hitting open receivers but fine with Allen overthrowing receivers by 10 yards on a 5 yard dump off.
Seeing this 5 years later is really enjoyable! I absolutely love your content
Well I was just suggested this again interesting to see
Same...here we go
Same 😂
Damn, my guy why are you hating so hard on baker he haven’t even played a game and you’re judging him like he’s played 80 game.
In the nfl
Also they could've gotten Barkley with their first pick and still had a good shot at Baker with their next pick
Javon123 4 because he's strangely way too bias with many guys
Stevie Mac23 I wanted them to get Barkley at 1 cause NY was gonna take him at 2 everyone knew that and they could’ve gotten Baker at 4 easily
He said worst pick in his lifetime. He must of started football this year because Jarmucus Russell is just one of them. I’m 100% he was worse than Baker will ever be lol
Baker if he was 2 inches taller wouldve been the consensus #1 pick you're insane -A cardinals fan who got Rosen
MrSxT/MichaelPlaysGames agreed, also a Cardinals fan. I wanted Baker over every other quarterback
Colton Ross as did I
MrSxT/MichaelPlaysGames Baker Mayfield sucks and the Cardinals got the best QB/player in the draft- Saints fan
MikeBEntertainment now we got a guy who's shorter than baker.
THE Disney Nerd "Baker Mayfield Sucks"
I think you honestly just hate Baker Mayfield. You have no real reason too, you just dont like him, so you try to justify it
I loved him until the draft process started when he somehow went from a 2nd or 3rd round pick to everyone's #1 QB. I like his personality. Reminds me of Philip Rivers, one of my favorite players in the league. But as a football player? Hard pass. He's a College QB thru and thru.
And thats the answer of someone that doesnt watch tape and does not do research on prospects.
I like it when the ball goes thru the yellow posts. Thats my favorite part of Futball for sure.
That Franchise Guy sorry dude like your channel but ur still not giving an answer on why he such a bad pick. I like baker he has all the right traits and if he’s 2 inches taller he would be number 1 easy
Baker is the only quarterback that doesn't have a blaring problem. Sam darnold is a turnover machine. Josh allen had no fucking accuracy and never plays good in big games. Josh rosen has durability issues(my favorite QB) and mayfield just has a video of him being stupid but I'm pretty sure he has matured but i would say Rosen is gonna be the best and mayfield is gonna be a second with a close third in lamar but I don't like that fact that sam darnold has all the turnovers just makes me worry but he's still gonna be great regardless
The Baker pick is turning out to be one of the better pick all time and you called it the worst in your lifetime. And don't forget Denzel who is leading CBs in pro bowl votes...AS A ROOKIE. That's laughable
Eh
This aged well
I'll give you props for being different but man some of these rankings are really hard to justify
Hi im from the future and most of the ratings are justified besides rosen, saquon, and mayfield
@@lucasr2050 Sam Darnold over Baker?
@@lucasr2050 Denzel ward a "D"?
@@AllDueDisrespect You win some takes you lose some. His Darnold take was fairly common at the time sure it hasn't aged the best but you can't hit on every pick
@@daltonsali4122 You're absolutely right, I'm just saying there's a reason Baker went number 1 lol. There were plenty teams that didn't trust Darnold. He's had some good takes as well though!
In the beginning I thought I was watching a Urinating Tree video xD
i will not watch you ever again. If you are going to do a draft grade video, do some research. Baker doesnt hit all of the throws? most accurate passer in college football history. MMQB just said he had the second strongest arm as well on terms of velocity. your analysis is flawed. do some research bro!
GcoTV you realize Tebow hit all the throws in college too?!? And Jamarcus Russell had a cannon. You’re a dipshit.
Powerlifter83 I’m a dipshit because I disagree with somebody? Intelligent discussion. Tebow didn’t hit all the throw btw. Watch film. Russell had a cannon but was immaculate and lacked any work ethic.
GcoTV not a dipshit because you disagree....you’re a dipshit cause you were straw-manning him
Intelligent discussion doesn't start with "I will not watch you ever again" and end with "do some research bro!".
nalterdeeds it’s my opinion. I won’t watch him. I never have. I stumbled upon this video. I watched the first part and couldn’t get through it. He gave a team an f- and his reasons were inaccurate and uneducated on the topic. It’s my opinion. You can have yours as well. You two obviously like his videos and agree with him. That’s completely fine. I think he should do more research than spouting atrocities because he doesn’t like the guy.
This hasn't aged well
Honestly not that bad now
It got better lol
Never say something like this until a couple of years later
Baker take was awful and the Josh Rosen take was even worse 😂
@@DrippaDre
baker take is obviously one of the worst all time
Ward one has aged terrible too
Rosen was a big bust
Jarie Alexander take was awful
So not too bad but man that baker take has aged so horrendous 😭
Grades From the future (2020 week 3)
Baker Mayfield: C+
They still have no clue if he's good or he sucks, but rookie year was fun
Saquon Barkley: B-
Great player that did nothing to make the team better. Giants still suck, saquon couldn't change that
Sam Darnold: D+
He hasnt done anything yet
Denzel Ward: A
Turned into a fantastic corner, well worth it
Bradley Chubb: B-
Been solid when he plays, but has had injury problems. Has not been the elite talent he was hyped up to be
Quenton Nelson: A+
HOF player, turned the line around
Josh Allen: B+
Finally showing all of his promise
Roquan Smith: B
Hasn't been special, but not bad
Mike McGlinchey: B+
Turned into a good RT, helped them make it to the super bowl
Josh Rosen: F
Traded for a second round pick, currently on a practice squad. Oof
Minkah Fitzpatrick: B
A solid player, but got traded away for a first only 2 years later
Vita Bea: B+
Been an elite run stuffer, starting to become a good pass rusher, one of the best NT in the game
Da'Ron Payne: B
Been solid, part of a great defensive front in washington
Marcus Davenport: C-
Shown flashes, but not much more and can't stay healthy
Kolton Miller: B-
Been a solid starter at tackle for them after a rough rookie year
Tremaine Edmunds: B
Shows signs of becoming a fantastic lb but hasn't quite reached that potential, still very young
Derwin James: A
Elite player, only problem has been injuries
Jaire Alexander: A
Been a very good cb 1 for the Packers
Leighton Vander Each: B
Had a great rookie year, but since has had constant injury problems
Frank Ragnow: B+
Been an excellent center for them, well worth the pick
Billy Price: D
Has not been a good starter at all, a liability on that line
Rashaan Evans: B
Solid pick, been pretty good, but still yet to become an elite starter
Iasaih Wynn: C+
Been good on the field, but injuries have held him back
DJ Moore: B+
Been a good, productive wr1 for them
Hayden Hurst: C-
A solid player not worth a Rd 1 pick, was beaten out by a third rounder, then traded for a second rounder
Calvin Ridley: B+
Become an excellent 1b to julio jones
Rashaad Penny: D+
Shown some talent, but took a long time, and has been held back by injuries
Terrell Edmunds: C
Been a starter, but not great. A bit of a liability in the secondary
Taven Bryan: D
Has not done much of anything since being drafted
Mike Hughes: B-
Been solid, but struggling as CB 1 in 2020
Sony Michel: C+
Played a key role in a super bowl run, but had injury problems and been an inefficient runner
Lamar Jackson: A++
MVP, 23-3 as a starter (or something like that). One of the best QBs in the league
Nice
2022 and josh allen is A++, while lamar is probably an A.
To be fair... his evaluation of Baker is looking a little bit better now. 👀 I still think he was a 1st round talent though, just the Browns Effect.
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This didn't age very well
Kinda want a 2018 nfl draft regrade video for the first round and a regrade for the teams draft in the 2018 nfl draft.
5 yrs later and it pops back up on my feed again. Shaht Aht TFG for upping his game every year.
Randomly got recommended this again in 2023, let's see how this went!
How are those grades for baker & darnold looking?
Good
I think Josh Allen is an average college QB...way to much hype I don't think he will be a starter in 3 years or so
Hunter Richards easily worse player than Baker Mayfield as well
Look at him now, he has been way better.
This didn't age well
This aged poorly
aged horribly
2 years later and josh allen is actually better than baker mayfield
watching this a few years later...man did the packers nail this
I don’t know how you think Mayfield is soo much worst than Darnold cause that guy is terrible turn on the tape he’s not that good to say up here with luck is a joke a half Baker is gonna be a stud in this league I can’t wait for him to prove people like you that he belongs
XxCuLtxX1213 He definitely will this guy is just bias Darnold had 23 turnovers in 13 games I don’t think that’s something you want from a ‘franchise quarterback’
Just one comment about Bakes that everyone has wrong, he has the highest completion percentage for the majority of NFL type throws (he's by far the highest for over the shoulder). As a passer Rosen is the only one who's more NFL ready.
This guy just said Josh Allen was better than Mayfield? LOLOLOLOL
JzachR6 yea. So is Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Lamar Jackson, mason Rudolph, and Mike white
Bryan Cherry well let's look at how each of them play. Rosen Allen and White are all born natural leaders who aren't too cocky and are extremely accurate (mainly Rosen) Lamar Jackson is the best scrambler of the bunch which can translate good in the nfl Mason Rudolph has the strength and Darnold you might can argue i don't really like him too much either but I think he's better
LOLOLOLOL HE WAS RIGHT LOLOLOL
Aged like milk
Hey he was right.
You're an idiot.
Hes 10x smarter than you.
If you're watching this now just know that he is not always perfect
Baker can't make all the throws? You lost all credibility after that comment and the offense at OU isn't trick plays they run RPO's which NFL teams are starting to adopt. Good job
Wth do people think minkah is a nickel back when he was a dominant FS in 2016? The knock that he has know true position has always confounded me
You knew
OOF glad youi're not Cleveland's GM. Baker and Ward looking like studs as rookies
How bout now?
@@DrippaDre still looking solid
Elijah Mahone Josh Allen would’ve been better and if your drafting number one you take a guy that has the chance to be a top QB, he’ll never be top 10.
@@DrippaDre bro let's be real nobody knew josh was gonna be that good nobody I never saw anybody but hills fans when they drafted him say he would. That's good for him but I'm happy with baker he's growing slower then the others but he's also had the 2nd most dysfunctional franchise out of all of them.
I'm a Browns fan. I am absolutely pumped for Baker Mayfield. He is the one I wanted. I think Darnold will struggle, Rosen has talent but I question his want to stay in the game and Allen will be a hard bust. Great draft so far for Cleveland. Go Browns!
Neph0423 you should’ve gotten Barkley at 1 and Mayfield at 4
Xavier Zattoni I don't know if Mayfield would have been available at 4.
Neph0423 he wasn’t rated as the highest quarterback so why not?
Xavier Zattoni rumours that he was #1 for NYJ. Also, he was the guy Cleveland wanted. Why take a chance? Best QB in the draft IMO.
Neph0423 he is the best quarterback in the draft this guy didn’t know wtf he was talking about I thought NYJ wanted Darnold that’s why I would’ve taken the chance
I mean who cares about accuracy in a quarterback, it’s not at all like he throws the ball at all
Baker mayfield recently won his first playoff game, something that sam darnold and josh rosen failed to do.
Honestly baker is the best qb in the draft ,just cus your 6'1 doesnt make you bad ,and after losing their best cb Denzel ward was the best replacement for the browns ,randall was not the replacement for their secondary
Man, 5 years later, I know you've said it before, but some of your takes for these players were crazy. You were a more harsh on Baker than I remembered. He did do some good in Cleveland but younwere right when it came to his downsides/cons.
Extremely confused with the Steelers pick, I have a terrible feeling this is going to backfire tho you can probably tell, I desperately hope it doesn't
Your saying baker is the worst pick you’ve ever seen. He can legit turn an almost sack into a scramble first down. He’s a more accurate Russell Wilson.
Dude Franchise, I simply have to disagree with you on Baker! Baker is your Andrew Luck while Sam Darnold throws too many picks, Allex has a fall as well he just a big arm guy, and Josh Rosen is just there. Baker and Lamar are the 2 top Qbs in this class and I like that the Browns picked Baker as he can either start or learn from Tyrod for a year. Just because he is small, doesn't mean he won't succeed as Brees and Russell are small for the QB position but they do amazing at their job. Baker is not Case Keenum like you say he is, he is a top QB who is gonna lead the Browns to a championship one day. I simply disagree with this grade and I would an answer from you at some point. Also just because he is from the BIG 12, doesn't mean he is gonna suck as there are quite a few Qbs from the BIG 12 that are good like Tory Aikman, Patrick Mahomes(very soon), Vince Young, Andy Dalton, etc.. So again prove me on Baker and then I will agree with your opinion.
Watching this now is funny
Thank you for making this! Needed this after that weird draft
Way too hard on the Browns and Baker Mayfield. If you think Baker Mayfield is the only one running that type of offense you are wrong. Nothing ''trick play'' about it. Its the spread, if it was trick play offense then Rosen is right there with him. You could say that about just about any QB in college football, you cant deny Mayfield is electric. Josh Rosen ran air raid at UCLA at went 6-6. Mayfield walked on TWICE and won the heisman. Cmon dude. Mayfield may very well be Case Keenum but you're hating hard on him
Looking at this again Andrew Luck prospect for Sam Darnold💀
Well, I'm just going to say you were probably wrong about Baker.
Regardless of what people say baker mayfield and Lamar Jackson were the best quarterbacks in the draft, they both are the only heisman trophy winners. They didn’t win it for no reason. And darnold is a bust no doubt turnover machine.
My Steelers just doing what they do. Drafting not just a mediocre player but also a position which is not the most dire. Come on steelers
Cory Horgan it clearly works for them I mean they are a perennial playoff contender
Chargers win something finally
RomeDa515 I actually had the Chargers taking James in my mock draft, one of the three I got right lol, but I wanted him to go to my Seahawks, but congrats
A year from now I'm going to come back here then we'll see how much "worth" your grades are I'm betting not much.
Man what a throwback
I liked Darnold a lot but rip his career
Mayfield best quarterback in the draft, Barkley best player in the draft not just running back, Darnold has good potential but is very flawed, Rosen probably 2 in the class in terms of QB, Josh Allen is a major project great size, arm but not very accurate and Ravens absolutely fleeced the draft with the value they got and then got Lamar Jackson who has the most potential in the draft.
Alex Brown 100000% agree
You both are fucking dumb if you think Mayfield was the best QB in the draft lol
Matt Campbell sorry I have an opinion that differs from yours
And that's fine but your opinion is pretty irrelevant
Matt Campbell and yours is?
well i came back here during the 20-21 season and seeing what you did
Whos watching this after his regrading of this draft
How does it feel to be oh so very wrong about not only Baker but Ward.
How about now?
Baker is the most accurate quarterback in the entire draft though?
This didnt age well
I know I'm months late, but I have to clear things up about your "grades"
Baker Mayfield: they were between him and Allen, but after Allens tweets came out, it was a done deal for the pick. And the last RB to go 1st overall won the Heisman and lasted 4 years in the NFL
Denzel Ward: they needed CB and they were trying to shop Jamar Taylor anyway so that raises that need even more. And if they took Chubb, they would have to pay 3 or 4 players 100 mil in 4-5 years; Garrett, Mayfield and then Chubb. And that would be 300 mil just for 3 players, not going to happen anytime soon
Billy Price: he was a near guaranteed 1st rounder until he injured his arm in bench press at combine. He can play center and even OG so he offers versatility and he is a good run blocker and surprising pass blocker
Terrell Edmunds: I'm a Steelers fan (well I'm born and raised here so I kind of have to like them, but I want a new team) and I didn't even know who he was. But after listening to Mike Mayock and them talk about his versatility and then going and reading his scouting reports, I think they drafted him to be more of a cover LB and play a Deone Buchanon rule. Still a reach, but after releasing Mitchell and Golden, their only other possible starting safeties were Davis, Burnett and really no one else so they needed at least 1 more. Not to mention Davis is a loose cannon, can't tackle and is a bit of a liability in coverage. And Burnett is on a very short contract and possibly nearing the backend of his career and won't improve above average. (I was hoping for either Sony Michel, to replace Bell next year. Will Hernandez to replace the aging Foster within the next year. Arden Key, because they will HAVE to use an UDFA, luckily a decent one, as a number 2 guy. Sam Hubbard, to come in as a pure pass rushing DE and give them the chance to move Tuitt. Courtland Sutton, since they have been trying to, and finally succeeded, move Bryant. And they need a tall target because Brown is a possession guy and JuJu is more of a speed/power guy, plus they needed a new number 3 in front of DHB and Hunter. Then either Jesse Bates, for a better Sean Davis, or Justin Reid for a Tyrunn Matheiu kind of player )
How about that Baker, and Ward? LMFAO
How about Baker now?
@@DrippaDre He’s decent. Better than Darnold and Rosen.
Lol “mobility won’t translate”
What are you gonna do to make it up when Baker becomes a Pro Bowler?
Bennett Salz he will suddenly be a Baker fan
He might start for 8 games
Bennett Salz cams mobility translated it.
MOOSE 8200 what the fuck? Cam?! You brought up Cam as an example of Bakers athleticism translating? I’m genuinely surprised when I look in these comments and see how dumb some of you are.
What are you all gonna say in 5 years when the jets and cards are in the conference championship games and the browns are drafting another QB
You said the Pats have never invested in a RB in the Brady/Belichick era? They drafted Laurence Maroney in the 1st round. Granted, he wasn't very good, but what you said is still incorrect.
Imagine calling Baker the worst pick you’ve ever seen, you’re the one who had Nathan Peterman as your QB1 the year before. #NeverForget
Not to mention, a lot of these other grades were horrendous 😂
Let's go loved this pick so much. My Chargers coming for it all baby
You guys got a friggin steal!!!
I’m not happy with mayfield but he is no were near a f the guy can play I’m a browns fan the picks weren’t great but they are not bad picks and he’ll be throwing to Good players you need to adjust your grades
AcgxMontay AcgxMontay I’m excited for you guys this year your receiver room in stacked Jarvis Landry, Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon?! Not to mention David Njoku at tight end!! I just wish you would’ve gotten Barkley at 1 because everyone knew NY wanted him at 2 you could’ve easily got Mayfield at 4 the browns messed up there. I’m Hoping at least 5-11 for you guys, Goodluck
What about him giving the best player in the draft a C-? Then he lists all of the HOF backs without SB wins? Why not list the HOF backs with SB or pre-SB NFL championships? Just another guy in love with Sam so much he threw out a great player and pick for Giants.
Hardtobeabrownsfananymore64 who did he give a c- to
Love your videos! I totally agree with you with the Packers trading up.
I am not a Browns fan But Baker Mayfield is a great pick his arm is great he is good in the pocket he can run has great accuracy he going to be good you should just wait for it
Interesting to say the least watching this in 2020
seriously though? F-?
Lmaooo love that Josh Rosen grade
Im sorry how can the Giants get a c. When they get the best player overall by your standards and address a need. Davenport is Ansah i ain't mad
I honestly don’t think these dudes actually watch the game of football...Baker is gonna be just fine
Jesus Christ, I didn’t like the mayfield pick either, but that’s probably closer to a C or a C-
You must have some real hate for mayfield. You RIP into him in all of your videos. I don’t think he’ll be as bad as you say though
We will see. I love his fire, reminds me of Rivers. Would be fun to see him resurect Cleveland. But his tape gives me no reason to think his game translates to the next level like many Heisman winning QBs before him.
Wow, a b- for ragnow? Thank god you're not a pro scouter
He’s buns
@@JooshNG you say this in 2020?
You were so wrong about so many things but you speak with such certainty 😂
This was my first class doing this for real so it was definitely a learning experiment. Never should have taken that stance on Baker, cause I was simply wrong.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy I appreciate the comment back! To be fair, that draft was so hard to call. Sam Darnold could also still have the higher ceiling. I mean.... Adam Gase.... that's tough 😂
Still holding out hope for Darnold haha
Marcus Davenport is a beast. Him and Cam Jordan are going to wreak havoc on offences. I smell Superbowl for the Saints.
I agree about the assessment of Davenport and how he fits on the team. But it is Super Bowl or bust now in an INSANELY stacked NFC.
That Franchise Guy I think the only teams to worry about is Eagles and Minnesota. This is despite the seemingly improvement of alot of the NFC during the off season.
I like that you stay true to what you think about players. Don't agree with everything you say but got to like it
As a student at Iowa, pretty disappointed Josh Jackson and James Daniels are still on the board. As a chiefs fan, hoping jackson falls to us
Welcome to the inevitable draft cliche of Iowa players getting overlooked in the first round for inferior players.
The fact Daniels slipped to round 2 is simply ridiculous. The NFL front offices know how well Iowa O-lineman translate to the pro level.
As for Jackson he is going to ball so hard in GB just like Hyde did for them and Mike Daniels still does.
Daniels im pretty high on having a good career. Jackson I'm not as sold on as I was desmond king last year, but I guess king was drafted 3 rounds later so we'll see. If jackson's speed isnt too big of a problem, dude will ball. Just dont expect him to be man covering tyreek hill or will fuller
Jackson is not a man coverage DB. I keep hearing from many places he'll be part of the nickel package possibly with GB to start which I think works to his skill set better.
Jackson is however a ball hawk and that is needed in the NFL badly by all teams.
So basically desmond king but with better physical attributes
How do u not see where taken bryan fits in rotation? I might just be a bias jags fan but our problem last year was our d line rotation fatigued them
This video aged horribly.
U are insane to say that Mayfield is worse then Allen. He is for sure the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the draft
aged well.
This didn’t age well, huh?
Most draft grades don't, and Marcus has admitted he has been wrong about a lot of these players and has matured in his draft analysis.
First time I've ever watched this, gotta say I felt the exact same about the Terrell Edmunds pick. Biggest reach ever. This was right around when Colbert started fumbling drafts.
I think there might be better overall backs at 31 but the way Michel fits into the NE scheme is what makes him the most valuable back for them
Baker will excel and prove you wrong like he did in College. He’s the best QB in the draft. Ur doubting him way too much.
You still think that??
Lol
@@raijin8718 third best QB. A top 15 QB behind two top 10s/borderline top 5s. Still better than this guy thought he was.
@@thebeast4853 He's definitely not top 3 QB rn but he's playing pretty decent as of rn
@@raijin8718 third in the 2018 class
This didn’t age well
What smoke r u smoking down on the best QB n RB
Love your videos. But I hope you have to eat your words about baker. Obviously, he can’t be a franchise qb by himself. But with his rally ability and his undeniable determination and ability to learn I’m sure he’ll develop fast. To us looking in, it looks shitty. Darnold was the safest pick, but Cleveland, a business, saw an opportunity no one else did and that’s how business goes sometimes. Outsiders never truly know what’s going on. I just hope he brings the same intensity as he did in college.
I actually disagree in that Baker is the safest pick. But Darnold ceiling is so much higher I dont see how you make this pick. I'd rather go Tyrod and Draft Saquan.
Lol You really hate baker. That’s like taking Brock osweiler over Russell Wilson or drew Brees because of height. Really dumb point. He had nearly 70% completion in college compared to every other qb’s crappy stats. Not to mention his competitive nature. Prepare to be incorrect.
Do you think the bears will win the draft if we get Landry in the second ?
Can’t wait to watch this in 2020 made this comment before I watch the video
What rating will you give Sam DARNOLD and also what speed rating do you think you'll give him?
Thank you! People don't realize how good the chargers roster is
It’s because baker is better than all of them he played amazing in big moments game winning drive he made all the throws I watched ever game of baker he makes the thrown and saying his mobility won’t translate yea he’s not going to be like a Michel Vick but more like a Aaron roger it’s crazy u like Sam better all he done is fumbled and threw the interception and josh Allen can’t throw the football straight josh Rosen is worried about politics I just don’t get it he has the best film out of all of them and you can’t tell me the usc team was terrible he could have got more when it’s not just the big 12 d because he played amazing against Ohio st said by urban Meyer he played amazing versus auburn in the sugar bowl he played amazing against Georgia call me crazy but his game is more like Aaron Rogers
You should definitely do a live stream bro
Gives Mayfield an F- but gives Allen an A. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. Downgrades Mayfield for hitting open receivers but fine with Allen overthrowing receivers by 10 yards on a 5 yard dump off.
I hope baker Mayfield can prove u wrong
I’m not a Cards fan but I really want Roesen to ball out.
lol Baker wasn't the worst ever xD a bad bad pick, but at least he has lasted 3+ years in the NFL I can think of quite a few top picks that didn't -_-
This aged bad
This aged well. Just showed up in my suggestions
4 year's later and u was almost 100% right about Baker, but 100% wrong in Sam
The Browns offensive coordinator better put the right system around Baker since he only showed he can shred the horrible big 12 defenses
Gavin Ayers yeah, except he torched Ohio State and Georgia's defenses which were loaded with NFL players.
And you took Case Keenan I’m dead
If DJ Moore and Calvin Ridley are 3 and 4 who the fuck are your top 2 WRs