This was interesting. I got a used M10 in -97 or something, and wrote my first programs on it. I wanted to make Tetris, but only got as far as making an animated intro. The user manual was really comprehensive, and had a detailed description of every BASIC command. The computer is long dead, and disassembled for parts (the fate of all dead electronics in my hands), but I still have the screen assembly intact. I ran it from an Arduino a couple of years ago, and it still worked fine. The viewing angle is quite terrible though.
Thanks. I have began wondering if Kyocera came up with the design for the M100 type computer and then sold it to various retailers rather than market it themselves.
@@HeyBirt I think there are certain advantages to bing manufacturer only instead of retailer. It's much easier not having to deal with end user support. So that would make a lot of sense to me.
Very nice side-by-side comparison. But as you mentioned, the M-10 is more like the Model 100. There is a 3 years difference in issue, the Tandy Model 100 & the Olivetti M-10 were released (like their japanese cousins: Kyocera KC-85 and Nec 8201) in 1983. The Tandy 102 was kind of a re-run of the Model 100 and was released in 1986. Hence the differences, like SMD. Eg. the bus port of the Model 100 also points down. The M-10 is also thicker than the T102, The thickness of the Model 100 is in between.
Hi, yes defiantly the M-10 is more like an M100 is construction but they did carry some elements forward to the T102 while keeping the Tandy specific things like the Option ROM socket. Kyocera sure got a lot of mileage out of the same basic design.
Very cool machine. Do you know anything about what you can pop in the 4 slots at the bottom. Two are filled in mine. I also have no idea how to set the clock.
Practical question, these seem to have a German keyboard layout here in Belgium, and as I type blind, I loathe the swapped Y and Z. Can you pull the keycaps and remap them with a ROM mod? I don't mind the eu's and the ringel-S.
and by the way, my M10 had leaky caps, but interestingly, I'm still running the original NiCd battery from 1980, I just check from time to time if it's still good...
@@HeyBirt Hi Jeff! It would have been weird if the first three answers on an Italian computer came from Chinese (or maybe not?)... 🤣😂 Greetings from Italy! 🤗
I was just thinking that I could have titled it "The Italian (refurb) job". Maybe I will save that for the next vintage Olivetti computer I work on? Ciao!
Can I avoid another "Italian" comment? Anyway, I have (of course?) an M10 too :) Thanks Jeff for covering this amazing portable!
Hi Frank! It is a nice machine. Thy really had the right idea with the screen.
This was interesting. I got a used M10 in -97 or something, and wrote my first programs on it. I wanted to make Tetris, but only got as far as making an animated intro. The user manual was really comprehensive, and had a detailed description of every BASIC command.
The computer is long dead, and disassembled for parts (the fate of all dead electronics in my hands), but I still have the screen assembly intact. I ran it from an Arduino a couple of years ago, and it still worked fine. The viewing angle is quite terrible though.
Nice look inside these odd devices Jeff. Very interesting.
Thanks. I have began wondering if Kyocera came up with the design for the M100 type computer and then sold it to various retailers rather than market it themselves.
@@HeyBirt I think there are certain advantages to bing manufacturer only instead of retailer. It's much easier not having to deal with end user support. So that would make a lot of sense to me.
Very nice side-by-side comparison. But as you mentioned, the M-10 is more like the Model 100. There is a 3 years difference in issue, the Tandy Model 100 & the Olivetti M-10 were released (like their japanese cousins: Kyocera KC-85 and Nec 8201) in 1983. The Tandy 102 was kind of a re-run of the Model 100 and was released in 1986. Hence the differences, like SMD. Eg. the bus port of the Model 100 also points down. The M-10 is also thicker than the T102, The thickness of the Model 100 is in between.
Hi, yes defiantly the M-10 is more like an M100 is construction but they did carry some elements forward to the T102 while keeping the Tandy specific things like the Option ROM socket. Kyocera sure got a lot of mileage out of the same basic design.
Very cool machine. Do you know anything about what you can pop in the 4 slots at the bottom. Two are filled in mine. I also have no idea how to set the clock.
Thanks! Enjoyed.
Thanks!
Practical question, these seem to have a German keyboard layout here in Belgium, and as I type blind, I loathe the swapped Y and Z. Can you pull the keycaps and remap them with a ROM mod? I don't mind the eu's and the ringel-S.
and by the way, my M10 had leaky caps, but interestingly, I'm still running the original NiCd battery from 1980, I just check from time to time if it's still good...
That is a really long life for a NiCd.
@@HeyBirt and it still keeps the memory content for one month straight if charged fully
Interesting view into the 80s
It is defiantly an interesting computer a bit ahead of its time with the flip up screen and quite stylish to boot.
Second (and Italian too)
Ha! First three replies to video about an Italian computer are all from Italians.
Third! (and italian too despite my name)
Adriano Olivetti, one of the best ever ❤
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Olivetti
Ha! First three replies to video about an Italian computer are all from Italians.
@@HeyBirt Hi Jeff! It would have been weird if the first three answers on an Italian computer came from Chinese (or maybe not?)... 🤣😂 Greetings from Italy! 🤗
I was just thinking that I could have titled it "The Italian (refurb) job". Maybe I will save that for the next vintage Olivetti computer I work on?
Ciao!
@@HeyBirt "The Italian (refurb) job" sounds nice! Yeah! Ciao Jeff! 😊
First! (And Italian)
Ha! First three replies to video about an Italian computer are all from Italians.