I was so confused when everyone in the comments is mentioning the "perfect rhythm", but when hororo mentioned it, I was blown. The hero might extremely hard to master but, when you actually come to the point of knowing this hero, it'll be fun.
agreed !!! heroes like joy n fanny are the most fun to play, in my opinion, at least. tthey're rlly hard to master, but once you grasp their playstyle and become skilled in using them, they can be really fun!! their power ceiling is rlly high, since it scales off of the player's skill, so if you *really know* how to use them, you'll dominate w them.
@@Defnetlynotken There is a bug with her in mid lane 2nd enemy turret. If you touch the turret range from blue buff side you will be drag into the turret. I thought I'm having some issue but no enemies, 22 ping android 10. So it is a bug
Finally someone mention the perfect rythm damage i said this because many people that review the hero dont include the perfect rythm..i noticed it earlier when playing this hero..and rythm player i can say this hero is fun
the rhytm is simple too , the only problem is i think the enemy using cc so it messed up your combo or burst you down , i wonder if purify will really helpful
I love the atmosphere and the vibes of this hero, practicing her will be fun and tough at the same time! I'm sure saving my bp for her will be worth it.
@@yuh2267 Everything starts as a marble with mixed skill icons in advance server. They just can't just put everything in one patch. They must take it slow in case of bugs.
@@notVulture This should be the mindset for those who want to practice hero in classic and went to rank immediately without knowing damn well the skills, builds, etc.
I see that ML wanted to create heroes like Wanwan with “trigger-able” Ultimates, with the release of Fredrinn and Joy. You really need to use the hero a lot in practice before you go out there and use it in Classic and Ranked.
@@flyindolfin0262 When people say "It'S jUsT ClaSSiC" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Can't stand that man 😂😂😂 Like yeah classic is just for fun and to practice, but even with 8,000+ matches I STILL practice a new hero I don't know in VS. AI like 3 or 5 times before I even attempt classic. This gives me plenty of experience to understand the heroes skills and how to play them properly before going against real people and learning how to actually use them. People will go 1/15/0 and then get mad when I ask them to stop feeding.
@@vanivan25 the only thing is, everytime moonton releases a skin for joy, they should make a new soundtrack for each skin (above elite skins). I mean it's not that hard creating a new beat unless they're just too lazy.
The only good thing is that shes a magic damage dealer and cant be counter by wind of nature because the 2nd skill combo has fast short duration and If she was a damage dealer 2 seconds can at least stop her from dealing damage by 3 or 4 dashes
I found out that the passive for Joy is incomplete, she actually gain 16% dmg reduction & spell vamp for every mark she left on enemy on the battlefield, up to 80% for both
Main weaknesses 1. Minsitthar: restricts any dashes in its range, and has a quite large range and long duration 2. Zilong: Zilong's knock ups would pretty much not just mess the combo but kill you in seconds 3. Kaja: suppress + /kill simply would hit her very hard 4. Saber: every assassins nightmare lol, and would certainly kill her with just a combo (my saber ultimate final hit damage deals 2k+ at full build) 5. Franco: one bite one kill (my franco assassin build can one ult one kill a marksman or even an assassin n mage with dire hit roam) 6. Hayabusa: you can't run without having minions around you 7. Phoveus: (this hero loves agile enemies) 8. Chou: one kick + passive attack n ur pretty much like dead 9. Wanwan: if she didn't hit Wanwan 5 times, you know what would happen 10. Fanny: this hero is outstanding in terms of dash, if you will fight a good fanny user, you better just not Any heroes with lock on skills that has CC effect would pretty much like kill her for many reasons Note: only knock ups and suppress can stop her dash duration, other CCs won't be able to do something
um joy is a mage support so basically she might be used for tanking or bursting back laners. but as you can see supports like old Matilda has good op damage but this one is a support that has damage per blink and her 2nd skill is true damage so basically magic defense is pretty much countered by her blink but still she's hard to use
Me: Agree. 🙂 Also me: Lapu-lapu: I'm the only hero with up to 75% DMG reduction. Joy: Are you sure about that. (+5% more DMG reduction) Also Lapu-lapu: 🗿
This hero relies heavily on her skills especially her 2nd so that you can deal high damage. Her weaknesses are stunners, valir's push back, and suppress cc
Yeah a cc counters this hero hard. Like Harith she is a charge/burst hero and I can already see that they will be compared a lot. I think its better to make this hero a semi-tank. A single cc that can interrupt her rhythm will make her dead in seconds like Harith. Overall, the fun factor of this hero is enough reason to buy her. Edit: It seems people forgot Harith existed lol. Unfortunately, he is no stronger than a minion in the last few versions. He just got buffed but it doesn't really change anything much. So instead Moontoon decided to make a new hero like him. PS: Coming from a former Harith main, its quite miserable. He was fun back then. I suggest they improve his durability and nerf his damage, decrease the time it takes to complete his dash and also decrease the dash length.
When I first saw the Hero and his skill explanation I thought that it was a mix of Nana, Harith and Fanny. But after seeing how the skill works and how the sound effect, makes me think this is a mix of Estes Blacklist skins 😅
For being a hero called *Joy,* it won’t be _Joyful_ playing against her. Also, *_Human Pikachu_* Edit: Goddamn, looks like we finally have rhythm game mode in the game xD
The hero looks like it's fun to play but the only problem for me is that the ultimate. Because they made the character rhythm based so i feel somewhat irritated that the last note in the ultimate doesn't have the damage thingy because when damaging there is also a sound, but the last note doesn't have the damage sound together with the ult sound(It's from this 7:27 the sound that sounds from da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dada the last dada ult) , maybe i'm the only one somewhat irritated and i doubt that it will be noticable when we are focused in the fight. But still it looks very fun to use.
@@lul8899 yep, those games are not hard, but do it in front of an enemy with crowd control, making sure that you don't miss the dash and/or don't go out of position. That definitely is challenging.
I'M BUYING HER OMG SHE'S THE BEST AHAHAHA Edit: btw she's still get adjusted so she probably won't be that difficult when she comes out she will probably have 1.5 second or even 2 second for second skill maybe
@@Lifeath_Heavell not much of a rhythm gamer, but I've played this, it's damn nice, but I couldn't go past expert mode(that circle rhythm thingy sheesh its alr 6 years Ig since I played, I forgot) it's damn hard
As a Musician, i'm already liking this hero. To decrease the difficutly they just have to make it a 4/4 on 80bps, instead of what it looks like right now (looking like 2/4 on 110bps)
Dude, this cat wouldn't end up in original server the way it is right now. They would change her step by step to make her easier to use. Mark my words.
@@mraihan7400 yes, same goes to luo yi. I prefer 1st release of luo yi on advance server. They change the yin yang combo from 4 skill to 3 skill. I prefer 4 skill luo yi
@@L4zyasz Semi tank? Maybe But full tank is not possible because she has no cc, and will only tickle the enemy. Maybe it's good on early-mid game, but the enemy can just ignore her on late game and she can't do anything about it
As a rhythm players, I think moonton must adding a “Show Time” notification timing for the ultimate. Make the music more catchy like on 6:14. You can see the different damage on 5:50 ultimate and 6:14 ultimate. And for 2nd skill adding Perfect and Good notification.
It will be lots of fun mastering her. Seriously, u may even forget about her difficulty, u just wanna get the rhythm right because u actually enjoy the music😁 just enjoying the music as the battle goes on😆
ML is a very CC heavy Moba, Joy's reliance on perfect rhythm to deal burst dmg makes this a difficult fit. Sure, you can run Purify, but that gives delay and will often mess up the rhythm. Even so there will usually be more than 1 hero with CC skill and as an assassin she's a high priority target. ML is also not very consistent with targeting skills and hitboxes (Franco mains will be familiar with this) and she definitely needs heroes with strong CC in her team, else it'll end up like 2:51. I can see Selena becoming a very good teammate for Joy with her spammable and ridiculously long CC skill making ambushes easy. Tigreal is also a good pick with his Ult gathering enemies for Joy's Ult. She can prepare the first two dashes with her first skill as Tigreal initiates and does his combo. The duration of his Ult plus stun duration might be just enough for Joy to get her last three
Rhythm game players will have an advantage using this hero if there is a beat when it's the forth beat "Suddenly having flashbacks of note calibration thing in games"
Now this is an example of a good concept hero!,I wish moonton gonna make more like her. The way she moves is so flashy and flamboyant! Tengen approves.
If you can dash without the need to hit enemies then her kit might be doable. Otherwise, her kit won't be that usable in practical game because her ult is too situational. Nice concept though but she might have the same situation as wanwan where they changed her passive several times to make it a bit more user-friendly
More heroes like this should be made in my opinion so people are incentivized to learn a hard hero and also to prevent braindead heroes like balmond and zilong from actually being viable lmao. And you probably havent seen wanwan users go crazy in teamfights pre passive adjustment. This hero is going to be fun as hell in real games like lancelot and such
Or increase the aoe and distance of her dash for a higher chance to land them to an enemy since she needs 5 of them, meanwhile some assassins can burst down a hero in much faster way with equal or much greater mobility.
@@snailspeedster6556 I don't like playing hard heroes that requires fast hands (Ling, Lancelot, etc) but I enjoy playing hard heroes/champions like for example Akali and Irelia from lol
what d u mean? this hero exactly needs you to be fast with her 2nd skills and isn't too hard given that she has cc immunity. without it she's fck with it she's strong and not really hard
Not the hardest compared to Fanny but it definitely takes a good timing in team fights to use. At the same time you just need to practice the Perfect Rhythm. I think she will be perfect for full or semi tank jungler build at first if you are just new to her.
What do you mean compared to fanny i think you just haven't tried using joy her 1st skill needs to be put on your target manually or you might miss her second's max stacks is hard to get as you have to perfectly time it also if you remember her move speed is gonna be so high so using skills will be way harder
I mean if you just want to use her then she is way easier than Fanny but if you want to master her then it maybe as hard as Fanny or even harder, it really just depends on the person itself and the device you are using. As for the worries about the crowd control, you just have to time yourself when to get in a fight. As much as possible, fight only when all enemies' crowd control skill are in cooldown.
Ima big music fan so heres what ive noticed: The dots each is exactly 1 second so if you know THE BASICS of basic rhythm then whenever you dash you can do this; DASH 1 2 3 DASH 1 2 3 DASH 1 2 3 DASH As long as you can memorize that 1 2 3 DASH. Youll for sure land each perfect dash. If you dont know what speed the 123 is suppose to be then just sync it with each dot lit up
The moment when she showed me the perfect rhythm I already know I'm gonna buy her not for being assassin or having to master her skills I'm just gonna buy her to vibe and have fun with the rhythms
5 months later, she might be one of my favorite charas, tied with fanny. joy is so goddamn fun to play omgggg, the music is just *chef's kiss* . i love how you can be extremely aggressive with her during the early game and penetrate the back lines, then run away with epic music playing. joy's honestly a very fun and great hero. i love moonton for making joy
Sounds extremely fun (puns intended), but i'd recommend they increase the cc immunity duration when the user hits perfect rythym. Make It last just long enought so she can dash again in time (so, 0,8 to 1 sec; scaling with ult level?). This way the user can focus on timing rather than be afraid of ever getting close to the enemy. The 16% dmg reduction is nice and could stack, nobody would mind (Martis's second skill grants 60% damage reduction as well as a 3,5 second cc immunity and nobody plays him).
The first thing came up on my mind after I saw this hero at the first time is Zeraora. It's because have the same tail-a-like (Or scarf idk) just like Zeraora. And also the gameplay have almost the same like Joy, especially the Volt switch and discharge combo. And yeah Joy probably will be the most difficult hero.
Joy 1st "looks like Yve's first skill 2nd "Lancelot dash skill 3rd "looked like Uranus first skill edit : deym i like the ulti run animation looks like Odette when using ulti . when she jumps but, continuosly.
I think they need to make her second skill locked to an enemy when you tap it but also drag-able to use it as an escape skill because if your only option to proc her ultimate is dash and hit enemies for five times successfully and note, it has a timer, then she's practically not viable in this meta
Lol, ZERAORA? And also an assasin. And those skill is basically the volt switch + discharge combo 😂😂 . Well the rhythm game aspect is unique and interesting tho. But i'm long range mage user, so this one probably too hard for me to use 😭 kinda want to try it
Pretty balanced and have a spot in the assasin meta, Assasins have been rising so much in this current meta so she will definitely be used a lot but the difficulty is pretty high and she would be perfect as a jungler or roamer cause of her 2nd skill
@@astroboy6203 yeah that's my point, it's not impossible to master a hero, I mean there's a lot of pro Fanny players for example. Heroes with CC will make it too difficult to play her.
She's a wanwan/lancelot hybrid. I think it's best to build her with sustain rather than focus on damage. I can see her easily unlocking ultimate during clashes but I don't think they need to give her ultimate that much of a setback especially since it's not an OP ultimate like wanwan's. Tough boots/warrior boots Genius wand Concentrated energy 3 defense items depending on situation
@@user-lx7xo6mf4v yeah, simply because of her ultimate. She aoyld be allowed to use her ultimate anytime. Then her ultimate can be combined with her 2nd skill. She's gonna be fun and challenging to use but still weak because of her difficulty.
@@alreytan5351 Not because of her ultimate only. Her second skill has so much cons itself that being the ultimate condition to be unlocked is only a small part of why she will be hard to play. There is so much factors that could mess her up, enemy positionning, dashing away, you missing the hit with the dash, getting CC, failing a perfect note. Her ultimate isnt really a problem in reality, its just there is so much conditions that can mess with her second skill be it from the player/hero or the enemy that it is almost impossible to have the setup for the ultimate to be used the ultimate itself is good but the whole system regarding her second skill makes her nearly impossible to play outside 1v1 battle.
@@Monokuma._. that's why at least her ultimate should not be locked. It doesn't give her immunity or high killing capability like wanwan nor give her a strong CC like minotaur so it doesn't make sense that it needs to be unlocked.
I am a fan of fighting games and my sibling likes rhythm games and invited me to play them and I improved a lot since then so I will definitely enjoy using her. Her main weakness is cc, lag and sudden high ms
Joy has so much potential, just hoping they won't add more time on her 2nd skill making it less difficult for low skill level players, and by potential i meant making her ultimate's skill damage scale with how many times you've used her 2nd skill, add more dashes from 5 to 10, increase 2nd skill dash speed and 1st skill animation speed
Based on what I've seen, I think it needs more time on her 2nd skill. The reason for this is the amount of CC skills present in the game. While purify can be used as a remedy for this issue, the lack of it will greatly affect the survivability of the user. Well, I haven't played it so my opinion might change but based on this vid alone, I do believe a longer 2nd skill is needed.
Cool concept but most likely she's gonna get reworked so it's user friendly (i really dont like it if they actually do this). With the current meta of heroes having CC or high burst, she's gonna have a hard time. I really wanna see ML releasing some more high risk high rewards heroes.
the thing is if she can reach her ultimate she can have up to 60% damage red to enemies hit, now that's insane, but I think she would need lifesteal since you know....the power of ganking
Yeah there are some heroes who are hard to play but op once you master them. For example Fanny is the most obvious example of this even though I think she’s totally unfair. Joy might also get reworked cus if I remember before kaguras most recent revamp she was not so user/beginner friendly
@@mango9740 I know, that's why i dont want the devs to rework her. She is a high risk high rewards hero. You gotta understand that most heroes nowadays just require you to spam their skills and most players don't aim. Joy is gonna be hard for most players because of this and probably will get rework so she's more 'playable'.
I've played mlbb since 2017 but I had to quit cause no players for ranked in my server. I was stuck playing classic for about 2 yrs. Only way to reach mythic was through vpn and that just made a tough situation worse cause of the ping
For me she's kinda a very good assassin and can be used as core hero bcuz her second skill is just lyk Lacelot's first skill....so whenever she unlocks her ult she should wait for the enemy to use their cc damage then she can use her second skill to creeps/minions not for killing the creeps/minions but to roam faster also to dash and reach the enemy(js lyk lancelot's first skill) in additional if the enemy is too far away she can use her first skill then her second skill to dash....then dash a few more times near the enemies(by hitting them Or wht ever) and cast the ultimate with extra damage...🙃
Years later i hope they make joy hard to play again shes so easy to use cause of her "revamps"... also if you main joy and mastered her you actually forgot that there is an icon on the botton to perfect her rhythm its just a muscle memory so i hope when she dash its not the same rhythm speed 4 times in a row its getting boring and that you will actually need to look at the icon below its just so intuitive i forgot that the icon is their cause i have mastered joy... its like a waste of space for joy mains now cause you dont need to look at it
Same, same.. shes not difficult at all to play and still remains unpicked in epic~legend. Stop revamping to make her easy. More difficult gameplay to justify her mobility and damage
I think she's easy to use (for me) if you use purify or petrify but it would be better if her 2nd has longer duration or longer first dash but it depends on moonton if they buff and/or nerf since she's a new hero
Moonton is incorporating music to heroes lately, first with the upcoming M3 Estes skin and now with Joy. I bet the whole game will sound like a concert next year.
So, after I analyzed her skill(her maybe), I think that she's the type where things go easy after you managed to enter ultimate with the perfect rhythm, but still you'll be lacking damage, so in my opinion mm build works best since her passive is reliant on basic attack
in a teamfight its not gonna be easy since your litteraly be in the center of the fight...you can do the fast but you wont enough dmg to be called an assasin...either you bring petrify or purify on her to do your job properly in 1v1 or 1v2 she can be a menace...
Khufra definitively is a hard counter. We can argue he counter mobile heroes but in case of Joy that specifically rely on her dashes to trigger the ultimate its just gonna be a nightmare whenever u want to play her and thats Khufra CC alone maybe they could give her a CC immune as long as you hit the perfect note tho, which would reward good players. Edit: Welp i may have missed the cc immunity part when Roro showed the skills, it will still be hard to handle the rythm considering everything can just mess you up from the enemies damage, their CC if timed well or just yourself for missing a timing/an enemy.
I hopped on advanced server and played joy, she's easy to play, idk what's so hard about her. The only problem is, in teamfights, she's kinda out of place... Before you can activate your ult you'll either get stunned or killed. I used purify after that but it's still too much for joy to handle. Anyways, doing perfect ult is very easy.
Like what hororo said in the video if you don't press the 2nd skill on the right time then you can pretty much screw up the combo she's going for to get the ultimate, like you just said, so while on paper it's easy simply hitting an enemy 5 times with 2nd skill in reality, you can easily screw with the flow, so overall has an easy mechanic while being hard to execute fully well and would need practice
Hi idk if this is too much to ask but can i borrow your adv server account because ive always applied for advance server but they wont accept me all i can do is borrow others account i promise i wont hack i only wanna try nee heroes :)
@@lgtfajardo imo she has so many restrictions and conditions to pull, it would be hard to actually do full combo before the she died by the enemy first.
There was a not really similar hero in VG. She uses guitar. And she's support type. Same technique. When you get perfect rythem it she can boost heal mov speed or DMG. I forget her name btw. And I like this Joy. She's more fun to play. You can do headbang when you play her. Already play it in adv server.
I think her passive should also include an effect where every few seconds 3 rhythm tiles will pop out in either up, down, left, right. And that can give her additional dashes on her second to make her ultimate easier to check but can also make her have more some strategy and counter play to her. So that enemies know she’s gonna dash to one of 3 tiles or her first ability
Damn. She's a cute one. I am a sucker for these kind of characters. The playful ones, also them ears and tail. She does seem difficult, but one of the things I like the most is music. Since she's got her own and some beats to follow, I really do think that I'd give her a try because I love Rythm games as well. I can't wait!! Edit: That music them of hers is just awesome!!!!!
this hero looks fun to play, I play rythm games and so joy might be a fun hero (or an easy hero for me hehe) specially the effects on her ultimate sounds amazing and so memoriesing the way she dashes is so funny cause she dance all way she activate her ultimate
itll help me a lot if you share the video! thank you very much!
Ok
This hero is so not worth it
Joy might be a meta as "tank" or even "jungler" if you ask me
@@notaswissx she is
This hero is not gonna be ez
5:50 the music when she gets that perfect rhythm is a BOP.
Frrr
BOP BOP JUST FEEL THE MUSIC BOP BOP TONIGHT
It sounds like early 2000 game show jingles 😭😭
uk for a fact sumone remixing it
It's shít
I was so confused when everyone in the comments is mentioning the "perfect rhythm", but when hororo mentioned it, I was blown. The hero might extremely hard to master but, when you actually come to the point of knowing this hero, it'll be fun.
Theres just way too many things this hero could go wrong(latency,device lag,enemy just dodging,cc'ing her)
But if u put all that away shes great
agreed !!! heroes like joy n fanny are the most fun to play, in my opinion, at least.
tthey're rlly hard to master, but once you grasp their playstyle and become skilled in using them, they can be really fun!! their power ceiling is rlly high, since it scales off of the player's skill, so if you *really know* how to use them, you'll dominate w them.
@@Defnetlynotken There is a bug with her in mid lane 2nd enemy turret. If you touch the turret range from blue buff side you will be drag into the turret. I thought I'm having some issue but no enemies, 22 ping android 10. So it is a bug
Finally someone mention the perfect rythm damage i said this because many people that review the hero dont include the perfect rythm..i noticed it earlier when playing this hero..and rythm player i can say this hero is fun
the rhytm is simple too , the only problem is i think the enemy using cc so it messed up your combo or burst you down , i wonder if purify will really helpful
@@chocho6766 her skills 2 are anti cc except for knock up and suppress.
@@F3Y_030 exactly finally someone who reads the skills
@@F3Y_030 so vale,yu zhong,franco,kaja can counter her
@@samuelbelko6469 pretty much yeah they can.
Me using this hero: "this one sparks joy"
When playing against her: "this one does not sparks joy"
Nice ref
Every new hero ever
👁💧👄💧👁 plus the Emote (emotional damage)
yeh i know the new emote got cancelled
Unless if your using Phoveus : this will sparks joy better.
This hero sparks pain
"With great Mobility comes with great difficulty"
Fanny, Gusion, Lancelot, Kagura and Ling welcomes you to the club
Oh God
So much mobility
Add kagura but not benedetta nab
I love the atmosphere and the vibes of this hero, practicing her will be fun and tough at the same time! I'm sure saving my bp for her will be worth it.
This hero will spark pain
@frying pan its a girl
She'll probably one of those "Free Anniversary Heroes" like Floryn since MLBB Anniversary is Coming Close
Gg, save it bruh.. Btw I have almost 2 lacs bps on me..! Wish I could share..!
Damn his song is do fun i wonder if enemy can hear it or not
Valentina be like: Thanks for the free ult Joy
LMAO
LOLLL
Hahaha
time to pick a rhythm
And since valen is like a perfect copy of the hero, she would get the increased damage...💀
As a music lover and a person who plays lots of Rythm/timing based games, Joy might be my favorite and future main hero!
i ditched floryn over her lol
We see haha@@EthanTypically
Crazy how when Joy was just a marble, she doesn't seem difficult but when she has her in-game model and skill effects, she's a lot more difficult
Every hero starts as a model-
@@yuh2267 not true. There's some heroes who starts as a marble and the skill sets used are the other heroes' skill sets
@@yuh2267 can you verify your claims before making them
@@yuh2267 Everything starts as a marble with mixed skill icons in advance server. They just can't just put everything in one patch. They must take it slow in case of bugs.
Not hero for lagger and potato phone
Joy's display animation: cutie dashes, bubbly look and adorable face
Joy ingame: FELINE NIGHTMARE
Using her or not, if u dont know her then your doomed 💀
@@notVulture This should be the mindset for those who want to practice hero in classic and went to rank immediately without knowing damn well the skills, builds, etc.
Need Lo... Cute pikachu skin for this hero
Most will buy her to use her like normal, while I will buy her to just do rhythm stuff in practice mode.
Nana Harith now this shit 💀
I see that ML wanted to create heroes like Wanwan with “trigger-able” Ultimates, with the release of Fredrinn and Joy. You really need to use the hero a lot in practice before you go out there and use it in Classic and Ranked.
Right cus it’s so annoying having a teammate in ranked or classic who doesn’t understand why people say “try practice and vs ai first”
I just got a fredrinn trial and tried him as a jungler and sidelaner and he is pretty easy to use so i might buy him next
you guys aren't practicing in classic?
Fredrinn is the easiest I got maniac the first time I used him his so tanky and high damage at the same time
@@flyindolfin0262 When people say "It'S jUsT ClaSSiC" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Can't stand that man 😂😂😂 Like yeah classic is just for fun and to practice, but even with 8,000+ matches I STILL practice a new hero I don't know in VS. AI like 3 or 5 times before I even attempt classic. This gives me plenty of experience to understand the heroes skills and how to play them properly before going against real people and learning how to actually use them.
People will go 1/15/0 and then get mad when I ask them to stop feeding.
6:20 Looks like Moonton has to add a song to his ultimate if the rhythm of skill 2 is perfect so that the notes are in harmony
DEFINITELY
Yes they should
After they tried Estes' Blacklist, now they're trying to add more
@@vanivan25 I mean it is pretty awesome and it has more impact and enthusiasm for players to buy it
@@vanivan25 the only thing is, everytime moonton releases a skin for joy, they should make a new soundtrack for each skin (above elite skins). I mean it's not that hard creating a new beat unless they're just too lazy.
I think joy is the perfect hero for rhythm gamers because the way you need to find a certain beat and the timing of your second skill
Auto stun heroes: Oh no you don't
The only good thing is that shes a magic damage dealer and cant be counter by wind of nature because the 2nd skill combo has fast short duration and If she was a damage dealer 2 seconds can at least stop her from dealing damage by 3 or 4 dashes
@@darkdiamondknight4068 skill 2 IS anti cc (exept for knockups and supress)
@@arislols Oh sorry didn't read it well due to reasons qwq
Her rhythm slow af
I found out that the passive for Joy is incomplete, she actually gain 16% dmg reduction & spell vamp for every mark she left on enemy on the battlefield, up to 80% for both
Instead of dmg reduction, i guess her getting resilience to CC is better
@@aQeera316 she alrdy have cc immunity when dashing tho, the ulti also able to purify herself from cc effect
Main weaknesses
1. Minsitthar: restricts any dashes in its range, and has a quite large range and long duration
2. Zilong: Zilong's knock ups would pretty much not just mess the combo but kill you in seconds
3. Kaja: suppress + /kill simply would hit her very hard
4. Saber: every assassins nightmare lol, and would certainly kill her with just a combo (my saber ultimate final hit damage deals 2k+ at full build)
5. Franco: one bite one kill (my franco assassin build can one ult one kill a marksman or even an assassin n mage with dire hit roam)
6. Hayabusa: you can't run without having minions around you
7. Phoveus: (this hero loves agile enemies)
8. Chou: one kick + passive attack n ur pretty much like dead
9. Wanwan: if she didn't hit Wanwan 5 times, you know what would happen
10. Fanny: this hero is outstanding in terms of dash, if you will fight a good fanny user, you better just not
Any heroes with lock on skills that has CC effect would pretty much like kill her for many reasons
Note: only knock ups and suppress can stop her dash duration, other CCs won't be able to do something
jawhead 💀
Good explanation. She seems op when mastered but get's countered easily haha
Add Eudora and Aurora here. One skill combo and she's done. There should be optimization on her 2nd skill coz she's gonna blink herself to death.
um joy is a mage support so basically she might be used for tanking or bursting back laners. but as you can see supports like old Matilda has good op damage but this one is a support that has damage per blink and her 2nd skill is true damage so basically magic defense is pretty much countered by her blink
but still she's hard to use
her ult can remove cc tho
This hero's concept is so cute it puts a big smile on my face. Like, the music, the little dance moves, just adorable!
I agree ❤️❤️❤️❤️... So awesome
All fun and games util you try and practice her in actual matches
Lives up to her name
Me: Agree. 🙂
Also me: Lapu-lapu: I'm the only hero with up to 75% DMG reduction.
Joy: Are you sure about that. (+5% more DMG reduction)
Also Lapu-lapu: 🗿
it's ironic she's an assassin
This hero relies heavily on her skills especially her 2nd so that you can deal high damage. Her weaknesses are stunners, valir's push back, and suppress cc
Khufra can easily stop this hero lol
Most cc heroes can
she has cc immunity
Yeah a cc counters this hero hard. Like Harith she is a charge/burst hero and I can already see that they will be compared a lot. I think its better to make this hero a semi-tank. A single cc that can interrupt her rhythm will make her dead in seconds like Harith. Overall, the fun factor of this hero is enough reason to buy her.
Edit: It seems people forgot Harith existed lol. Unfortunately, he is no stronger than a minion in the last few versions. He just got buffed but it doesn't really change anything much. So instead Moontoon decided to make a new hero like him.
PS: Coming from a former Harith main, its quite miserable. He was fun back then. I suggest they improve his durability and nerf his damage, decrease the time it takes to complete his dash and also decrease the dash length.
Need either cc immune or high resilience like 50-70% during the dashes, or untargetable is fine to,
Sorry nana
Looks like harith is seeing someone else
um from what ik she's immune from cc while ulting
@@genesisboleche9501 but you can only ult after5 dashes, so if she is cc'd during those dashes u cant activate the ult?
oh wait im wrong
Joy: she's hard because rhythm
Rhythm Gamers: my time has come
Her 2nd skill is like fnf when you need perfect timing...
@@imajejemon2437 pretty much every rhythm games
Osu x Mlbb player : *Finally*
proseka players: it's like i was made for this
@@Akraroshidere our time has come
I LOVE *JOY* MUSIC MECHANICS THE SOUND OF THE ULT REMINDS ME OF ODETTE
When I first saw the Hero and his skill explanation I thought that it was a mix of Nana, Harith and Fanny. But after seeing how the skill works and how the sound effect, makes me think this is a mix of Estes Blacklist skins 😅
they probably just tried to recycle all those assets instead of throwing them away
for me it looked like 1st skill Eve ,2nd Lance,3rd lunox
@@exelgaming8880 you mean yve? 😅
For being a hero called *Joy,* it won’t be _Joyful_ playing against her. Also, *_Human Pikachu_*
Edit: Goddamn, looks like we finally have rhythm game mode in the game xD
Pikachu skin :O
👁👄👁
*The wanwan rhythm tapping event wants to have a word with you*
*Im going to buy her just for the music*
Her ultimate alone is like a built-in toxic emote.
Cc skills
rhythm player will so happy about this incoming update!(I am also rhythm player, i play phigros). And hi from Indonesia
The hero looks like it's fun to play but the only problem for me is that the ultimate. Because they made the character rhythm based so i feel somewhat irritated that the last note in the ultimate doesn't have the damage thingy because when damaging there is also a sound, but the last note doesn't have the damage sound together with the ult sound(It's from this 7:27 the sound that sounds from da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dada the last dada ult) , maybe i'm the only one somewhat irritated and i doubt that it will be noticable when we are focused in the fight. But still it looks very fun to use.
Yeah I agree the damage should hit on the last half note twice really quick
It did damage the damage bot twice for the last two beats
I remember playing wanwan for the first time in classic. 20min game and i havent ult yet :D
Yeah little bit cringey
Lapu-lapu: I'm the only hero with up to 75% DMG reduction.
Joy: Are you sure about that. (+5% more DMG reduction)
Also Lapu-lapu: 🗿
Bruh, learning and mastering this hero will definitely bring joy. The music it makes when you dash correctly consecutively is enticing
Just play Cytus, Arcaea or Phigros. I’m sure it wouldn’t be THAT hard.
@@lul8899 yep, those games are not hard, but do it in front of an enemy with crowd control, making sure that you don't miss the dash and/or don't go out of position. That definitely is challenging.
Bruh, HAVE YOU SEEN THE LV.16 LEVELS?
I Have Completed Rrhar’il in HD but I can’t even get a damn C on that Shit!
HOW UNFAIR CAN IT GET!!!
the part of the showcase where you said you need to rhythm it made me super hypedddd! excited for the release of this new hero
I'M BUYING HER OMG SHE'S THE BEST AHAHAHA
Edit: btw she's still get adjusted so she probably won't be that difficult when she comes out she will probably have 1.5 second or even 2 second for second skill maybe
Agreed
Imagine if theres Anime themed skin for this hero 😳
especially the lo......
btw how old is she.......
@@albertmartinez2689 no dont go that way bad boy, she's probably super old tho because leonins can live super long lives and look young
IT'S THE MUSIC FOR ME 💀
@@asmodiasmobilemoba 👁👄👁
As someone who plays expert difficulty on rhythm games, this is gonna be a great challenge
Yeah, since the note move like their running away from us
Especially when it almost full combo
piano tiles music intensifies
Yey!! Prosekai and bandori player here
Arcaea players here
@@Lifeath_Heavell not much of a rhythm gamer, but I've played this, it's damn nice, but I couldn't go past expert mode(that circle rhythm thingy sheesh its alr 6 years Ig since I played, I forgot) it's damn hard
As a Musician, i'm already liking this hero.
To decrease the difficutly they just have to make it a 4/4 on 80bps, instead of what it looks like right now (looking like 2/4 on 110bps)
hey ummm may I ask
what genre type is Joy's 2nd skill and ultimate music
@@talksalot7562 I think is techno bass
Edit: Typo
@@talksalot7562 Ult seems like Rock but on a Launch Pad, so yeah, pretty much her music is Made on a Launch Pad
Edit: Typo again
Yeah when the beat is not exactly at the 4th dot and that just annoys me so much.
Still easier to use than fanny
And with the dash and her passive
She would be a great fighter and jungler/assassin
True
Phoveus: well hello there
i think joy would be a great ally with diggie
Dude, this cat wouldn't end up in original server the way it is right now. They would change her step by step to make her easier to use. Mark my words.
@@mraihan7400 yes, same goes to luo yi. I prefer 1st release of luo yi on advance server. They change the yin yang combo from 4 skill to 3 skill. I prefer 4 skill luo yi
this one definitely has the average mechanics complexity beyond any current heroes, and DAMN IT LOOKS REALLY FUN
@@L4zyasz Semi tank? Maybe
But full tank is not possible because she has no cc, and will only tickle the enemy. Maybe it's good on early-mid game, but the enemy can just ignore her on late game and she can't do anything about it
Tanky enough to not get punished in case u cant get dashes perfectly is prob best.
As a rhythm players, I think moonton must adding a “Show Time” notification timing for the ultimate. Make the music more catchy like on 6:14. You can see the different damage on 5:50 ultimate and 6:14 ultimate. And for 2nd skill adding Perfect and Good notification.
You know what they say, the more difficult the hero is, the more fun we shall have with this
It will be lots of fun mastering her. Seriously, u may even forget about her difficulty, u just wanna get the rhythm right because u actually enjoy the music😁 just enjoying the music as the battle goes on😆
Oh yeah sure it'll be fun till someone uses phoveus the anti dash broken ult hero
In my case, i may not be able to hear the music the entire game Lmao.
ML is a very CC heavy Moba, Joy's reliance on perfect rhythm to deal burst dmg makes this a difficult fit. Sure, you can run Purify, but that gives delay and will often mess up the rhythm. Even so there will usually be more than 1 hero with CC skill and as an assassin she's a high priority target. ML is also not very consistent with targeting skills and hitboxes (Franco mains will be familiar with this) and she definitely needs heroes with strong CC in her team, else it'll end up like 2:51. I can see Selena becoming a very good teammate for Joy with her spammable and ridiculously long CC skill making ambushes easy. Tigreal is also a good pick with his Ult gathering enemies for Joy's Ult. She can prepare the first two dashes with her first skill as Tigreal initiates and does his combo. The duration of his Ult plus stun duration might be just enough for Joy to get her last three
Finally, moonton made a character with interesting mechanics and rhythm :)
This Joy is really FEEL(ing) THE RHYTIM.
Feel my rhythm, come with me~
@@KikoYamano inserts feel my rhythm cupcakke remix
Yess ahha reveluvs
reveluv
That is like Fnf when you need perfect timing on her 2nd skill.
Rhythm game players will have an advantage using this hero if there is a beat when it's the forth beat
"Suddenly having flashbacks of note calibration thing in games"
Now this is an example of a good concept hero!,I wish moonton gonna make more like her.
The way she moves is so flashy and flamboyant! Tengen approves.
But skill wise? No, soo much dash.
@@darkmatter515 don't worry we have khufra phoveus and minsithar to tone down them 😏
What if shes cc immune if the rhythm is prefect?
@@billyt6841 to few counters and it depends on your team... So much heroes right that has many to almost unlimited dash
@@darkmatter515 I think moonton need to make a specific item or talent to counter dash heroes that would be nice
Moonton: *makes a hero that's named "Joy"*
The players: THIS HERO DOESN'T GIVE ME JOY
waley
But at least her skill sound effect are joyful
Looking back at this Joy her skill effects really did look cooler
If you can dash without the need to hit enemies then her kit might be doable. Otherwise, her kit won't be that usable in practical game because her ult is too situational.
Nice concept though but she might have the same situation as wanwan where they changed her passive several times to make it a bit more user-friendly
nah it can be practical with some slow effect for chasing the running enemy , for duel tho it's too slow especially again burst enemy
More heroes like this should be made in my opinion so people are incentivized to learn a hard hero and also to prevent braindead heroes like balmond and zilong from actually being viable lmao. And you probably havent seen wanwan users go crazy in teamfights pre passive adjustment. This hero is going to be fun as hell in real games like lancelot and such
Another food for phov kek
I hope they don't change it make it more easier tbh because there's barely any hard heroes that has a interesting gameplay.
Or increase the aoe and distance of her dash for a higher chance to land them to an enemy since she needs 5 of them, meanwhile some assassins can burst down a hero in much faster way with equal or much greater mobility.
This the kind of "hard" hero that I want, not the "hard" heroes that needs fast hands
I agree~ :)
Ayo that comment look kinda susy tho, wym by that 🤨📸
@@snailspeedster6556 I don't like playing hard heroes that requires fast hands (Ling, Lancelot, etc) but I enjoy playing hard heroes/champions like for example Akali and Irelia from lol
But you still need fast hands for the 2nd skill tho?
what d u mean? this hero exactly needs you to be fast with her 2nd skills and isn't too hard given that she has cc immunity. without it she's fck with it she's strong and not really hard
Hororo chan is the best when it comes to explain how to use new heroes in ML.
She is a very fun hero to use. Even though her difficulty is high but I love her music rhythm.🤩
Playing joy is like playing a rhythm game, nice
Osu, Beat Saber, ADOFAI, Geometry Dash players: *this is for us*
Feel My Ryhtm
Project Arrhythmia players:
That one lag spike that comes in a teamfight : You want to use her but you can't.
Not the hardest compared to Fanny but it definitely takes a good timing in team fights to use. At the same time you just need to practice the Perfect Rhythm. I think she will be perfect for full or semi tank jungler build at first if you are just new to her.
What do you mean compared to fanny i think you just haven't tried using joy her 1st skill needs to be put on your target manually or you might miss her second's max stacks is hard to get as you have to perfectly time it also if you remember her move speed is gonna be so high so using skills will be way harder
1 stun and all of her combos and skills are on cd.
I mean if you just want to use her then she is way easier than Fanny but if you want to master her then it maybe as hard as Fanny or even harder, it really just depends on the person itself and the device you are using. As for the worries about the crowd control, you just have to time yourself when to get in a fight. As much as possible, fight only when all enemies' crowd control skill are in cooldown.
@@coo1gam3r49 she's immute to cc when 2nd skill is activated. Only kaja and franco can stop her i think
@@aconfusedkitten3044 bruh ofc, but you wouldn't just spam her dash so even normal stuns are dangerous.
Ima big music fan so heres what ive noticed:
The dots each is exactly 1 second so if you know THE BASICS of basic rhythm then whenever you dash you can do this;
DASH 1 2 3 DASH 1 2 3 DASH 1 2 3 DASH
As long as you can memorize that 1 2 3 DASH. Youll for sure land each perfect dash.
If you dont know what speed the 123 is suppose to be then just sync it with each dot lit up
The moment when she showed me the perfect rhythm I already know I'm gonna buy her not for being assassin or having to master her skills I'm just gonna buy her to vibe and have fun with the rhythms
haha same
5 months later, she might be one of my favorite charas, tied with fanny.
joy is so goddamn fun to play omgggg, the music is just *chef's kiss* . i love how you can be extremely aggressive with her during the early game and penetrate the back lines, then run away with epic music playing.
joy's honestly a very fun and great hero. i love moonton for making joy
Me as a rhythm gamer: my time to shine
Play the rhythm
Bandori, Prosekai, HypMic, Enstar, Arcaea, Phigros player: It's my time to shine
Y'all get it
Joy: Very hard to use
Harith: Same
Nana: Sa-
Joy and Harith: NO
Aulus: Sa-
Joy and Harith: NOOOO!!!
Umm actually, u forgot Aulus 🤓
how bout aulus he's also a leonin
*Lylia watching them arguing*
She can't be a dancer
The music on the skins man this will be a interesting hero in the future if moontoon finds her profitable
A definitely interesting and fun hero. Although she is heavily countered with heroes that has a simple cc skill. Excited for her!:D
But she's immune to most crowd control, when she's using her 2nd skill
They'll likely remove that after they see her doing well@@Mocha-ux4vi
@@theunknown1760 or lower the dmg
@@theunknown1760 Nah, for a hero that relies on a single skill for everything, taking out the cc immunity would make her unplayable.
she could bring purify
Sounds extremely fun (puns intended), but i'd recommend they increase the cc immunity duration when the user hits perfect rythym. Make It last just long enought so she can dash again in time (so, 0,8 to 1 sec; scaling with ult level?). This way the user can focus on timing rather than be afraid of ever getting close to the enemy. The 16% dmg reduction is nice and could stack, nobody would mind (Martis's second skill grants 60% damage reduction as well as a 3,5 second cc immunity and nobody plays him).
and martis has low cooldown with easy casting lol
Good to see that moneyton is releasing ACTUAL DIFFICULT hero (not fake difficult like wanwan) after a long time.
Wanwan was actually a little difficult prior to the buff on her marks, you can barely activate your ult without the help of frontliners
The first thing came up on my mind after I saw this hero at the first time is Zeraora. It's because have the same tail-a-like (Or scarf idk) just like Zeraora. And also the gameplay have almost the same like Joy, especially the Volt switch and discharge combo. And yeah Joy probably will be the most difficult hero.
Ah, finally someone notice 😂 yeaaa moontoon clearly said "hey, your favourite speedster pokemon is here too!!”. But the rhythm aspect is unique tho
That was what i was thinking too lol
I'm hoping new speedster in Pokemon Unite and moonton make it happen, but in MLBB instead of Pokemon Unite lol
Dont forget fanny she will stay the hardest to play
I can already imagine the potential skins of this hero.
yeah wether it'll robotic related or modern fashion.. huftt pretty monoton.. just like the dev's name
@@-WilliamYonathanHutapea she would make a great 515 skin for next time
Hmm i hope they would change the “music” too if its a different skin
Pikachu.
@@moji5356 Pokémon collab be like:
• Joy - Pikachu
• X.Borg - Charizard
• Helcurt - (Dark type Pokémon)
(OWO) Harith has been rivaled on the dance floor and in speed with this new Hero ^w^
Joy
1st "looks like Yve's first skill
2nd "Lancelot dash skill
3rd "looked like Uranus first skill
edit : deym i like the ulti run animation looks like Odette when using ulti . when she jumps but, continuosly.
But better skill animations
3rd skill is more like thamuz's ultimate
Nope the 3rd skill is carmila,S first skill
More like carmilla’s first skill
I think they need to make her second skill locked to an enemy when you tap it but also drag-able to use it as an escape skill because if your only option to proc her ultimate is dash and hit enemies for five times successfully and note, it has a timer, then she's practically not viable in this meta
High Risk High Reward
Git gud
Lol, ZERAORA? And also an assasin. And those skill is basically the volt switch + discharge combo 😂😂
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Well the rhythm game aspect is unique and interesting tho. But i'm long range mage user, so this one probably too hard for me to use 😭 kinda want to try it
Pretty balanced and have a spot in the assasin meta, Assasins have been rising so much in this current meta so she will definitely be used a lot but the difficulty is pretty high and she would be perfect as a jungler or roamer cause of her 2nd skill
She's a lot of fun to play, I love the music and the idea of incorporating ryhtm into her. However, I believe it is too difficult to play her.
Nothing is too difficult if we practice her
@@RalphKrystianBArana not the gameplay but her counter is literally any cc
@@astroboy6203 so like yeah good point
It difficult because want unlock her ultimate and many hero can counter him
@@astroboy6203 yeah that's my point, it's not impossible to master a hero, I mean there's a lot of pro Fanny players for example. Heroes with CC will make it too difficult to play her.
I am already liking this hero. It provides a challenging mechanic and yet will be rewarding (plus the BOP music) if done properly.
She's a wanwan/lancelot hybrid. I think it's best to build her with sustain rather than focus on damage. I can see her easily unlocking ultimate during clashes but I don't think they need to give her ultimate that much of a setback especially since it's not an OP ultimate like wanwan's.
Tough boots/warrior boots
Genius wand
Concentrated energy
3 defense items depending on situation
And now she is the difficulty of fanny
@@user-lx7xo6mf4v yeah, simply because of her ultimate. She aoyld be allowed to use her ultimate anytime. Then her ultimate can be combined with her 2nd skill. She's gonna be fun and challenging to use but still weak because of her difficulty.
@@alreytan5351 Not because of her ultimate only.
Her second skill has so much cons itself that being the ultimate condition to be unlocked is only a small part of why she will be hard to play.
There is so much factors that could mess her up, enemy positionning, dashing away, you missing the hit with the dash, getting CC, failing a perfect note.
Her ultimate isnt really a problem in reality, its just there is so much conditions that can mess with her second skill be it from the player/hero or the enemy that it is almost impossible to have the setup for the ultimate to be used the ultimate itself is good but the whole system regarding her second skill makes her nearly impossible to play outside 1v1 battle.
@@Monokuma._. that's why at least her ultimate should not be locked. It doesn't give her immunity or high killing capability like wanwan nor give her a strong CC like minotaur so it doesn't make sense that it needs to be unlocked.
I am a fan of fighting games and my sibling likes rhythm games and invited me to play them and I improved a lot since then so I will definitely enjoy using her.
Her main weakness is cc, lag and sudden high ms
Phoevus, minsithar, franco, kaja
@@harveyseno2790 looking at your comment she has about the same weakness as wanwan
I can already imagine my head bops everytime i hit the perfect note, this hero is definitely fun to use when you master it.
As a rythm gamer, I love this hero already!
Joy has so much potential, just hoping they won't add more time on her 2nd skill making it less difficult for low skill level players, and by potential i meant making her ultimate's skill damage scale with how many times you've used her 2nd skill, add more dashes from 5 to 10, increase 2nd skill dash speed and 1st skill animation speed
Based on what I've seen, I think it needs more time on her 2nd skill. The reason for this is the amount of CC skills present in the game. While purify can be used as a remedy for this issue, the lack of it will greatly affect the survivability of the user. Well, I haven't played it so my opinion might change but based on this vid alone, I do believe a longer 2nd skill is needed.
basically make her the next fanny
Finally! With Joy, I don't have to listen to background music while playing
Cool concept but most likely she's gonna get reworked so it's user friendly (i really dont like it if they actually do this). With the current meta of heroes having CC or high burst, she's gonna have a hard time. I really wanna see ML releasing some more high risk high rewards heroes.
This is literally a high risk high reward hero and that’s why she’s susceptible to high CC or Burst
the thing is if she can reach her ultimate she can have up to 60% damage red to enemies hit, now that's insane, but I think she would need lifesteal since you know....the power of ganking
@@mikagekun5099 and just perfect the right rhythm is definitely loong. mm late game can just take you in a second to kill you
Yeah there are some heroes who are hard to play but op once you master them. For example Fanny is the most obvious example of this even though I think she’s totally unfair. Joy might also get reworked cus if I remember before kaguras most recent revamp she was not so user/beginner friendly
@@mango9740 I know, that's why i dont want the devs to rework her. She is a high risk high rewards hero. You gotta understand that most heroes nowadays just require you to spam their skills and most players don't aim. Joy is gonna be hard for most players because of this and probably will get rework so she's more 'playable'.
That's so original of them ..... Like, the concept of the hero, the abilities all of it feels new to me ✨
This is not original at all. A new hero is coming to wildrift from lol, samira. This is basically her kit. We have other heroes like this in lol
I've played mlbb since 2017 but I had to quit cause no players for ranked in my server. I was stuck playing classic for about 2 yrs. Only way to reach mythic was through vpn and that just made a tough situation worse cause of the ping
Quit last month
/s
For me she's kinda a very good assassin and can be used as core hero bcuz her second skill is just lyk Lacelot's first skill....so whenever she unlocks her ult she should wait for the enemy to use their cc damage then she can use her second skill to creeps/minions not for killing the creeps/minions but to roam faster also to dash and reach the enemy(js lyk lancelot's first skill) in additional if the enemy is too far away she can use her first skill then her second skill to dash....then dash a few more times near the enemies(by hitting them Or wht ever) and cast the ultimate with extra damage...🙃
Hahaha you said like it's as easy as playing eudora 🤣
@@ginnnnnnnnnn well ez if u master it
She looks really fun. I thought you just have to dash and hit the enemies 5 times. Didn't realized you have to time it with the rhythm.
Her design made her looks as if she has Pikachu's tail.
Man, im just watching it and i already feel the enjoyment when using her
Years later i hope they make joy hard to play again shes so easy to use cause of her "revamps"... also if you main joy and mastered her you actually forgot that there is an icon on the botton to perfect her rhythm its just a muscle memory so i hope when she dash its not the same rhythm speed 4 times in a row its getting boring and that you will actually need to look at the icon below its just so intuitive i forgot that the icon is their cause i have mastered joy... its like a waste of space for joy mains now cause you dont need to look at it
Same, same.. shes not difficult at all to play and still remains unpicked in epic~legend. Stop revamping to make her easy. More difficult gameplay to justify her mobility and damage
Lancelot: Who are you?
Joy: I'm you but more complicated.
Lancelot: Who are you?
Joy: I'm you but I got rhythm to Dash.
Lancelot: Who are you?
Joy: I'm you but with damage reduction movement speed
I think she's easy to use (for me) if you use purify or petrify but it would be better if her 2nd has longer duration or longer first dash but it depends on moonton if they buff and/or nerf since she's a new hero
But she is an assasin.. She also dont have hard cc.. She also has damage.. So her role must be jungle
In her 2nd skill description that skill could make her immune to CC.
I think Petrify suit her, or maybe With ice queen wand
I might enjoy playing her even its hard because i love rhythm games so much
Moonton is incorporating music to heroes lately, first with the upcoming M3 Estes skin and now with Joy. I bet the whole game will sound like a concert next year.
odette: sad swan noises 🦢
Cringe. They are turning the game more to idle, music, brawl than purr moba. They will ruin the game out of CREATIVE CONFIDENCE.
@@yep456 then dont play the game and stop watching these kinds of videos 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@mapbot4264 it is LAME people like you in developer section, the game is becoming idiotic.
@@yep456 Idle? tf?
She's looks amazing and I like the way she runs when the ult is available
Kinda sus *the guy above me*
@@masteroogway4828 whos the guy above you
@@masteroogway4828 ur *weirdo*
As a Lancelot main it’s gonna be a fun time using here
So, after I analyzed her skill(her maybe), I think that she's the type where things go easy after you managed to enter ultimate with the perfect rhythm, but still you'll be lacking damage, so in my opinion mm build works best since her passive is reliant on basic attack
But she only gains 30% of physical items, so maybe more mage and attack speed items (for me at least).
You will only need windtalker, just like aamon
Nooo burst basic atk will make her an ultimate assasin she just need to basic atk after dash then dash again i tried it it melts hero in 1 sec
Feather
You need to time her skills perfectly in order to fully use her skills.
*INTERESTING*
in a teamfight its not gonna be easy since your litteraly be in the center of the fight...you can do the fast but you wont enough dmg to be called an assasin...either you bring petrify or purify on her to do your job properly in 1v1 or 1v2 she can be a menace...
Bro this wanna make me come back to ml, She gives me goosebumps just listening to the beat that makes me wanna play, rhythm is my spark of life.
Fanny: *Finally a worthy oponent! Our DIFFICULTY battle will be legendary!!*
Our battle Will be difficult
Khufra definitively is a hard counter.
We can argue he counter mobile heroes but in case of Joy that specifically rely on her dashes to trigger the ultimate its just gonna be a nightmare whenever u want to play her and thats Khufra CC alone maybe they could give her a CC immune as long as you hit the perfect note tho, which would reward good players.
Edit: Welp i may have missed the cc immunity part when Roro showed the skills, it will still be hard to handle the rythm considering everything can just mess you up from the enemies damage, their CC if timed well or just yourself for missing a timing/an enemy.
She does have if you time it to the rythm. It's in the skill description.
Dashing from 2nd makes her CC immune for 1s
Phoveus will also be a hard counter
It says she is immune to control effects if she enters Beat Time, which I think is when you perfectly time her second skill to the rythm.
@@jovanillano8406 which going to be hrd since the time duration is fast
The more difficult the hero, the bigger challenge, this gonna be fun maaan
I hopped on advanced server and played joy, she's easy to play, idk what's so hard about her.
The only problem is, in teamfights, she's kinda out of place...
Before you can activate your ult you'll either get stunned or killed.
I used purify after that but it's still too much for joy to handle.
Anyways, doing perfect ult is very easy.
Like what hororo said in the video if you don't press the 2nd skill on the right time then you can pretty much screw up the combo she's going for to get the ultimate, like you just said, so while on paper it's easy simply hitting an enemy 5 times with 2nd skill in reality, you can easily screw with the flow, so overall has an easy mechanic while being hard to execute fully well and would need practice
Hi idk if this is too much to ask but can i borrow your adv server account because ive always applied for advance server but they wont accept me all i can do is borrow others account i promise i wont hack i only wanna try nee heroes :)
lmao
its about the rythm and flexibility to deal high damage on her ultimate
@@lgtfajardo imo she has so many restrictions and conditions to pull, it would be hard to actually do full combo before the she died by the enemy first.
SHE LOOKS LIKE NANA LOST SIBLING :0
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As a ex rythm game player, the beat dash is easy to pull off but in real combat situation might a little bit difficult cause of lots of cc heroes.
she has cc immunity when her dash doesnt go on cd
There was a not really similar hero in VG. She uses guitar. And she's support type. Same technique. When you get perfect rythem it she can boost heal mov speed or DMG. I forget her name btw. And I like this Joy. She's more fun to play. You can do headbang when you play her. Already play it in adv server.
It's Viola
@@patacibar4013 thanks pal.
Imagine if this hero have a collector or time limited skin the rhythm will be gorgeous!
I think her passive should also include an effect where every few seconds 3 rhythm tiles will pop out in either up, down, left, right. And that can give her additional dashes on her second to make her ultimate easier to check but can also make her have more some strategy and counter play to her. So that enemies know she’s gonna dash to one of 3 tiles or her first ability
Damn. She's a cute one. I am a sucker for these kind of characters. The playful ones, also them ears and tail. She does seem difficult, but one of the things I like the most is music. Since she's got her own and some beats to follow, I really do think that I'd give her a try because I love Rythm games as well. I can't wait!!
Edit: That music them of hers is just awesome!!!!!
Ayo what the-
Furry☕️
Not really. Just a big fan of Cat girls and anything like them. Don't make it weird, y'all
i love that all the leonins have that annoying trait ( to your enemies or when u r the one playing against them lol) but r really fun to play
this hero looks fun to play, I play rythm games and so joy might be a fun hero (or an easy hero for me hehe) specially the effects on her ultimate sounds amazing and so memoriesing
the way she dashes is so funny cause she dance all way she activate her ultimate