Looking at the clips again yeah no with the season cheat gear i doubt i lost any speed at all , 23.2k trash was normal at that time and could easily come down to me not trying hard enough to be efficient , same with the season 21.6k which could also be 22k or more , the only hour i am proud of looking at my clips is the last one with almost 26k on main gear since on every other hour i seem to mess out every now and then so b-bye efficiency over a full hour xD Idk Guardian here feels so good and ppl rly have to try biraghi out , especially since it requires no agris like other spots to hit 1bil+ income , u just need to eventually get other shards to make cups , and let me tell u now , Orcs is waaaay over 1.2bil , i didn't try Fogans properly yet but i hear that one is also very good , just remember to buy marni stones or u lose out on 100+mil/h , same with tent buff. Also Scholar Main INCOMING xD
i didn't expect it but so far it looks like it sure did , i was fully prepared for the first few videos to flop and get forgotten but i was pleasantly surprised :)
Went to test and only made 421,079,294 silver (not accounting raw silver on garm) with 282ap awake DK at 283% drop. I'm soo confused how your hitting those numbers. After using 2 keys I earned 10mil silver and a few extras. 608,280,252 Total
He was using guardian which has more AoE attacks. So guardian might be better for this than your class. How much trash did you pull? Was it roughly what he pulls in the video at 22-26k trash?
@@jonezee2861 hes including the shard value which is 25mil per shard. He got 24 shards which puts the grind with only seed of void, narc lightning and trash at 866mil
Dude these videos are extremely informative and really well put together! I hope others can see how great your videos are so we can continue to be blessed with these videos! Big ups bro, keep it up
If you're new to BDO, or new to the channel, do yourself a favour and subscribe, plenty of good info here. His accent's kinda cool and one day he may do a face reveal, maybe. 😏
I'm sorry but how do you get crit Hit damage to 72%? 4:05 I am around 55% i have the crit dmg corrupted crystals, awk weapon dand crit bonus, what else do you have that it gets you to 72%?! @DuoDecil
I was out of BDO for almost a year, and just returned to playing the new class, the first channel I came to was yours :) always good content and numbers
they reworked shiftLMB , the charging one , it's now a massive double swing aoe that u can redirect like i do halfway through to hit 2 packs , kinda her best skill now imo , the rest is the same jsut with addon changes now everything is a t3 buff
Was just wondering about the boss spawns how does it work, based on kill amount or kill speed? im all over the place, sometimes 2 sometimes 4 no idea why
i should do that i nthe future , i just dont have a preset thats stable , i constantly tweak it so if i link it in the video it would not match once i edit it later on
nice to see you back man :) are orcs better? havent been grinding them loooong time, iam currently struggling at darkseekers with my 318/407 guardian :(((
The high fps one imo isnt as smooth cuz it taks 100-140 fluctuating fps and puts it in a 60fps clip so it is stuttery but the rest looks smooth cuz i play on locked 60fps that never rly dips and my videos are also 60 so it maches perfectly , one of the reasons i still love 60 is cuz of the consistency , even with gsync(compatible so freesync really) it is not as smooth for me to play uncapped with fluctuating fps
same , brings back memories , i used to love elvia and i even said on stream that i think i peaked with elvia as a player , i jsut love mid game pots and interest or attract me more than acutal high end zones like ulukita
My initial tests with all buffs on is 16-17k in an hour on my 282 awake witch. I may be able to do better with better crystals playing better and better biraghi spawn RNG, etc.
it is true , lvls are not so important , hardly matter tbh , just get 62 for the special attack passive , the 1% and then you're good softap is lvl 66 so just saying u can always pop buffs and slowly lvl up to 66 , then at that point it becomes stupidly hard to lvl up further so 66 is where most ppl call it the end u get tiny stats like a lil bit of hp , and bragging right xD
Just been there and I made 11k trash with agris 15k... i mean its really bad compared to you... I also have a bit better gear than season 257/323 but yeah... maybe I need to long to kill? do you have the perma buff with the sword? I had it 2 times and was twoshotting mobs during this, also u use villa buff for 50m? Still that would be like half of all +- 600-700m for an hour which sounds okay, I just wonder if you can sell all the stuff you need 100 to craft ect
First. WELCOME BACK BUDDY!!!! We missed you! and thank you very much for making vids again! Lots of changes to spots and classes. Excited to see your vids again! Edit: Don't betray guardian, Scholar looks good but her AOE size is farr smaller then guardians and Scholar needs long skill combos. Fact is Guardian > Scholar and my guts tells me guardian gonna get some sweet buffs in future. Though, u can surely tag scholar for fun & testing.
i hope that's the case cuz after trying multiple classes like even drakania and corsair after the pve buffs , only guardian truly got me invested , she is easy fun satisfying and has massive aoes , plus she grinds well so i finally don't play a mediocre grinder anymore xD i'll tag the new class and see how she does , dont plan to full reroll
Hi, I'm a little confused. Around 8:08 you mention with a weapon you can still one shot but without it you cant and it takes extra time to kill each mob of monsters. What do you mean by with and without a weapon? As in both clips you have the same weapons equipped and in fact without a weapon you cannot attack. So i don't understand what this means. Am i missing something?
hello sir, how good is the guardian for a new player, there are so many classes and some say do maegu, some say do witch, some say do guardian etc, i really like the viking style, but is it a god class for the whole game?
@@DEMONSPIKE She's on a 'slower' side overall. But that's the thing. All class have cons and pros, you gotta try them out if you like their play styles or not. Guardian is slow, true, low apm, but easy to play, tanky, hit hard.
on guardian YES , on other classes idk , maehwa for example excels at kratuga but i bet she would grind biraghi a bit slower than i do , especially on season gear , cuz less dmg per skill and tinier aoes
welcome back hehe. Biraghi was fun but it got boring very fast for me and i simply got 1 upgrade and bought the rest, orcs is broken, on my guardian (awa), i can pull consistently between 34 to 36.5 k trash per hour on marni with succ its a little lower and i make between 1.4 to 1.55 b silver. Its chill but also boring. On i have 308 ap, lately got my pen layten, all i need now is a pen blackstar and im well over 310 ap.
so what does "in marni" mean. You've mentioned this on multiple videos now and i have almost no clue what it is and how to access it.(returning BDO player) Is it just Elvia but were calling it marni now?
Nooooooooo not my secret spot :( I run blue LS here and can make ~1.1 bil/hr average on Maegu, very easy chill grind but requires marni recharge. Good way to convert the Orcs shards :) BTW you should try Marni Nagas as well, similar amount of money. Less yellow shards but more vendor sellable value.
Sorry I’m new and trying to follow along and all of this is very confusing. Seems like trash only makes up for like 20% of money earned and rare items is like 80%. So what all are you including to make that following 80%? I’m assuming selling all black stones and whatever accessories drop but what about these cups/shards? Can the shards be sold or is this simply farming until I have enough to make the cup?
first trash loot , u sell it to the npc other items such as the seeds of void and narcs used to be mats to upgrade blackstar armor but nowadays that's dead , u should never build and upgrade to obsidian blackstar armor so just npc those 2 as well , 3 and 10 mil each the nail is made into the revived lunar necklace which u sell to marketplace and the shards , yes , u keep them until u have 200 total and make one of the 5bil cups to sell it on the market , or use if u need cups but for the sake or making pure profit i count it as u selling the cup You can see the cup mats on its description , one needs 50blue 50red 100yellow for example and it is a 5bil cup on EU , i believe another is 100yellow 100red. The main idea is to somehow monetize every item , either npc it or sell to marketplace , the traces for example can be sold to the marketplace , the mass of pure magic is used to make blackstar weapons or enhance them but i nthis case u can vendor it for 50k silver xD
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. One question tho, when u say Narcs, do u mean Narc earrings and if so why would u vendor those when they sell for more on the market. At least I always thought they sold for me. But u may be talking about something else all together.
You made it to 26k! see instead of nerfing me you just needed to practice it \o/ About the shard value - realistically you need to value yellow shards higher than red+blue shards to normalize the income between serendia elvia spots. The default of splitting them equally makes biraghi look worse than it is on EU at least (on servers like NA where red+blue cups are 5b orcs+fogans is absurdly profitable). It depends on the price difference between different cup types. Here's what I wrote on my naga video about it below: There's many strategies you can use to value each kind of shard. - You could distribute the earring cup value amongst all 3 shard kinds and arrive at 5b/200 for each different kind (25m each shard). This would indeed make orcs (and fogans) have the highest income. - I choose to allocate the extra value between the red+blue cup (3.5b) and earring cup (5b) to the yellow shards because it's primarily yellows and yellows take longer to grind. It's simple and makes all 3 kinds of spots satisfying. - Technically the most accurate strategy would be to distribute the value based on average shards/hr at each spot. So if you get 20/hr at yellow spots, 25/hr at red and 30/hr at blue then you split up the value of whatever you make by those ratios. e.g. earring cup becomes 5hr yellow, 2hr red, 1.67hr blue grind. I won't run through the exact math for this but if you split it up this way you end up with 28.8m yellows, 23.1m reds and 19.2m blues. I don't like to bother with mathing it out this much as it's annoying to explain.
ic, it is an idea but i think i'll keep them evenly priced because at the end of the day the cup needs 200 shards and no one shard is better sicne u do need all 200 to cash in , so far it seems that 24 is my average at biraghi but i did get similar numbers at orcs , i hope at least cuz i'll do the math and the orcs video today , i took out the money needed for blackstones and bmcs thats why mine is under 25mil , it just makes more sense to me to value them evenly , i believe there was also a cup that needed 100/100 distribution in which case yellows would take just as much time , idk. And yeeeeee i did get 26k , once xD Turns out i just had to tryhard , i checked my clips while editing and tbh so many other hours , the ones on stream , could be better , most of the 4min clips i had as background at one point failed to follow the skill rot and would mess up , especially without a weapon soi can see myself going from 24.5 to 25.5k or so o naverage . High fps helps a bit too cuz the game feels more responsive , i did the 165fp hour at orcs today and it does make a small dif , i got 33.7k which is a record for me from 32.7k , and it didn't even feel that broken cuz after i finished i told myself yeaaaaa this isnt as tryhard as it could have been cuz i was kinda tired at 1am last night o-o
I hate this map, the loots are capped by your pets speed, even with 1 t5 + 4 t4 is still not enough to pick up the loots and it gave anxiety, I feel like missing a lot of shards if I skip the loots.
@@michaelsoto3968 he has 312 ap and 399 dp in the video bro, how on earth is that "seasonal" gear. pen seasonal gear is tet boss equivalent. the video is beyond misleading and imo is just clickbait trash misleading newer players.
Depends on whether they're valued and/or how in the earnings calc, but to a degree, yes. You could also argue that you forego the BS upgrade stones you can get from the spots because people typically sell the Void Seeds, Okiara's, etc. If you're using Garmoth to track the silver/hr you could always put the value of the Shards at 0.
it is , but believe me i spent like 30+ hours these past few weeks in elvia and it is so easy to get shards , most spots are 20+/h so u basically just need 200 total to make a cup , the sorrow one is 50 red 50 blue and 100 yellow , so 10 or less hours of grinding to sell a 5bil cup , for most ppl grinding 10h isnt that big of a deal , i would only value them at 0 if u plan to check out elvia for just 1h and then never return , again it only takes 10h to cash in then u can move on to some other place if u wish o-o Also sell seeds and the others like okiaras or narcs cuz no one should make blackstar armor nowadays , sadly cuz i rly liked it and i even hada full set at one point :
its broken if your class is good for elvia. Guardian is the best on Elvia realm, so it is the highest standard possible. Also Duodecil don't use his horse. It added a value also.
i'll eventually get to cover nagas too but so far they are about the same for me , same 1.2b and same shard , a bit less o nthe shard side tho ,biraghi drops a bit more on average but the trash value is better at nagas so it evens out , at least for me it did , both are done in marni so really very identical
in marni room there are no mobs uhm idk how that place is named , the small space with a fence , where i sit with my tent , it has no mobs inside marni so climb up the hill first , enter marni and then ucan put the horse down , just remember to move it before u leave marni so he doesnt die , or u can leave the horse on the hill next to the fort wall if u wish but its harder to reach if u plan to use it to drop trash
hey duodecil ive been watching your videos and i love them.. i have a small favor and its that can you show me your all around crystals?? would love to see them thank you
I don't understand how you get so much trash per hour. I have tried your class Awakening guardian at orc camp with 283 AP with 342 DP, I have demi human Lightstones (according to Garmoth i also have the crystals giving me the most damage at orcs) and I run Frenzy draught, I tried perfume of courage, and simple cron meal and church buff. I am perfecrly clearing rotation 1 and 2, i can see rotation 1 spawn when i am done with rotation 2 and i included the caste (taken your rotation) and I am only getting 17k trash per hour.. (how ever my seed of void has increased from 5-8 to 12+ swapping to guardian. But you are getting 26k trash in an hour with season gear like what the hell I muust be lacking damage or maybe there is something i am missing. 😀
good question , idk , i am not even sure if console got the big pve buffs which matter way more since it buffed guardian's aoe dmg by like idk 20% ? or more , i am inclined to say no just cuz i feel like u dont have the buffs or the artifacts , i don't know u have all the crystals either
Clearly I am not understanding what exactly is giving you over a bill an hour. Because when I add everything up on your garmoth screen shot I'm not getting those numbers. Are the shards of night counting for a lot of money per? if so, since you cant sell them to other players, is the "actual" money one bill an hour? As in, once you are done with your hour and sell everything immediately that you just got does that equal one billion silver?
Can you update your top 50 agris spots with this new method :3 Love you Or make it even top 25 because there are so many spots not even worth mentioning
i plan to at some point but for now in terms of big projects i wanna finish the exp one , then i'll work o nagris , i can't do it fast cuz as far as i know there is no official agris/mob chart out there with up to date values , and garmoth doesn't track mobs/h so doing it all on paper without visiting the spots myself is not rly possible atm but i will get to it , most likely next year , just not this month , or who knows xD
These videos are great but it's a shame that spots are so dependant on so many variables. The game would be so much better if you'd just have a general pvp and pve set.
so u cannot do this efficiently at lvl 61, not with season gear or anything remotely close. im sure it will work just fine with season gear once youre level 63+ but not at 61.
Feels good to see another Duodecil vid on my recommended! Glad to see that you're back at it, hope you're doing well and great content yet again!
Hope all is well with you, nice to see you still at it, thanks for the video!
Glad your alive! Nice to see after my break your back too so I can enjoy your content :)
Looking at the clips again yeah no with the season cheat gear i doubt i lost any speed at all , 23.2k trash was normal at that time and could easily come down to me not trying hard enough to be efficient , same with the season 21.6k which could also be 22k or more , the only hour i am proud of looking at my clips is the last one with almost 26k on main gear since on every other hour i seem to mess out every now and then so b-bye efficiency over a full hour xD
Idk Guardian here feels so good and ppl rly have to try biraghi out , especially since it requires no agris like other spots to hit 1bil+ income , u just need to eventually get other shards to make cups , and let me tell u now , Orcs is waaaay over 1.2bil , i didn't try Fogans properly yet but i hear that one is also very good , just remember to buy marni stones or u lose out on 100+mil/h , same with tent buff.
Also Scholar Main INCOMING xD
Watching a guardian doing these spots is painful for me. Maehwa AOE's are so small :(
YOU ARE BACK FINALLY! ❤
Back for the holiday grind baybeeeee (please algorithm bless this guy)
i didn't expect it but so far it looks like it sure did , i was fully prepared for the first few videos to flop and get forgotten but i was pleasantly surprised :)
Your videos are always really well put together and fun to watch, keep it up!!
Best bdo content creator, Full stop
Welcome back! Ngl my favorite grinding analysis channel
Went to test and only made 421,079,294 silver (not accounting raw silver on garm) with 282ap awake DK at 283% drop. I'm soo confused how your hitting those numbers. After using 2 keys I earned 10mil silver and a few extras. 608,280,252 Total
He was using guardian which has more AoE attacks. So guardian might be better for this than your class. How much trash did you pull? Was it roughly what he pulls in the video at 22-26k trash?
@@rubbershots Nah I did it with guardian 288 AP and only made 400m in trash loot as well
Just git gud
@@toms.6283because he’s counting in the shards for cups
@@jonezee2861 hes including the shard value which is 25mil per shard. He got 24 shards which puts the grind with only seed of void, narc lightning and trash at 866mil
It's been a while my friend. Welcome back! Hope to see more of your content.
Dude these videos are extremely informative and really well put together! I hope others can see how great your videos are so we can continue to be blessed with these videos! Big ups bro, keep it up
Good to see videos from you what a nice Christmas present.
If you're new to BDO, or new to the channel, do yourself a favour and subscribe, plenty of good info here.
His accent's kinda cool and one day he may do a face reveal, maybe. 😏
Looking more foward to his feet reveal😏
new player here. so basically to make big money here you have to sell cups?
It's good to see you active on TH-cam again! Hopefully we get more videos from you
Finally you are back! Welcome back!
Happy you are back. It’s been a long time sir.
The best grind spot youtuber has returned?!?!
Most interesting video channel about bdo, i really mean it
waited so long to see a post from you:)
i even asked you on stream when you going to post or if you will post again:)
I'm sorry but how do you get crit Hit damage to 72%? 4:05
I am around 55% i have the crit dmg corrupted crystals, awk weapon dand crit bonus, what else do you have that it gets you to 72%?! @DuoDecil
Welcome back master! :)
Welcome back!
Sarbatori fericite!
The King is back
Just found your guide man. Just curious as to what your PC spec is? CPU and GPU?
ryzen 7 5700x , amd rx 6800
NEW VIDEO, WELCOME BACK
Back at it again ❤
Glad to see you back on TH-cam, used to always watch you for spot guides way back in the day
I was out of BDO for almost a year, and just returned to playing the new class, the first channel I came to was yours :) always good content and numbers
Welcome back sir. Btw, I'm not playing BDO since May, are they change guardian skill? AFAIK guardian skill doesn't look like that
they reworked shiftLMB , the charging one , it's now a massive double swing aoe that u can redirect like i do halfway through to hit 2 packs , kinda her best skill now imo , the rest is the same jsut with addon changes now everything is a t3 buff
Was just wondering about the boss spawns how does it work, based on kill amount or kill speed? im all over the place, sometimes 2 sometimes 4 no idea why
Wake up, Duodecil posted a video 🔥
hello from Brasil man, very good video.
welcome back mate
Prayers for you mate, I hope your health is good and your gonna stay with us forever 🫶🏾 love to see that your back but pace yourself 👏🏾
where do you put your horse here, i feel like nowhere is safe for my horse
what buff would you recommend for someone who cant get villa buff? (im f2p)
He's back!
best video like always
Welcome back! Crypt video when?
good point , idk , about time since even nerfec the acc there xD
Really nice vid, could u link what addon you are using? thanks
i should do that i nthe future , i just dont have a preset thats stable , i constantly tweak it so if i link it in the video it would not match once i edit it later on
nice to see you back man :)
are orcs better? havent been grinding them loooong time, iam currently struggling at darkseekers with my 318/407 guardian :(((
Time to rr or tag 😅
@@Janneriusi cant i like guardian chill :)
Your Gameplay always looks so smoothly runing fps wise. Do you use specific Settings or is it just the Video that looks smooth?
The high fps one imo isnt as smooth cuz it taks 100-140 fluctuating fps and puts it in a 60fps clip so it is stuttery but the rest looks smooth cuz i play on locked 60fps that never rly dips and my videos are also 60 so it maches perfectly , one of the reasons i still love 60 is cuz of the consistency , even with gsync(compatible so freesync really) it is not as smooth for me to play uncapped with fluctuating fps
This brings back memories when Elvia just started 😌
Nowadays im only do afk lifeskill and gathering T10 Horse materials
same , brings back memories , i used to love elvia and i even said on stream that i think i peaked with elvia as a player , i jsut love mid game pots and interest or attract me more than acutal high end zones like ulukita
My initial tests with all buffs on is 16-17k in an hour on my 282 awake witch. I may be able to do better with better crystals playing better and better biraghi spawn RNG, etc.
For pve dark knight or guardian Which one would you prefer ? ( and %10 pvp ) xD
Welcome back
Am i missing somthing on garmoth. the shards are saying give you 240 mill per hour. is this taking into consideration them being made into cups ?
yes , u grind this and orcs and then when u get 100 of each u make a 5bil cup and sell it
Hey! Can you post your Garmoth character link? Would help a lot to compare the numbers with my own.
I really like the spot but i have a problem... my character are too weak to carry all of the item, pls help me !
welcome back ~
Hey Duo, is it really worth it to "level up"? for example 62-63? i saw a post on reddit where it said that gear is more important than level?
it is true , lvls are not so important , hardly matter tbh , just get 62 for the special attack passive , the 1% and then you're good
softap is lvl 66 so just saying u can always pop buffs and slowly lvl up to 66 , then at that point it becomes stupidly hard to lvl up further so 66 is where most ppl call it the end
u get tiny stats like a lil bit of hp , and bragging right xD
@@Duodecil thanks Duo!
Hardware specs? and ingame specs ? would be nice to see and know that^^
It's easy to get 756 AP but I cheked garmoth and it costs 8 bil just to get human damage crystals and artifact set... not sure if it's really worth?
so you keep moving on to next pack and leave all the trash loot behind with and without elvia buff??
Just been there and I made 11k trash with agris 15k... i mean its really bad compared to you... I also have a bit better gear than season 257/323 but yeah... maybe I need to long to kill? do you have the perma buff with the sword? I had it 2 times and was twoshotting mobs during this, also u use villa buff for 50m? Still that would be like half of all +- 600-700m for an hour which sounds okay, I just wonder if you can sell all the stuff you need 100 to craft ect
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no way :O
First. WELCOME BACK BUDDY!!!!
We missed you!
and thank you very much for making vids again! Lots of changes to spots and classes.
Excited to see your vids again!
Edit: Don't betray guardian, Scholar looks good but her AOE size is farr smaller then guardians and Scholar needs long skill combos.
Fact is Guardian > Scholar and my guts tells me guardian gonna get some sweet buffs in future.
Though, u can surely tag scholar for fun & testing.
i hope that's the case cuz after trying multiple classes like even drakania and corsair after the pve buffs , only guardian truly got me invested , she is easy fun satisfying and has massive aoes , plus she grinds well so i finally don't play a mediocre grinder anymore xD
i'll tag the new class and see how she does , dont plan to full reroll
Is guardian the best at mid game including orcs? I rerolled to zerker and I'm disappointed to hear he falls off endgame@@Duodecil
On console, marni doesnt work for elvia, atleast not for me, you activate marni it tells you where to go, but then it wont let you enter
what is "garmoth money", sorry im confuse
I missed these videos
Farming serindia elvia for cups is one of my fave ways of making non agris money right now so this and the future orcs vid is interesting!
same for me , i didn't expect to make so much money in good old elvia
guardian's aoe's just insane! did they buff shift+Q aoe? played it few years ago and it didnt seem THAT big
they only reworked shiftLMB the double wide swings , other than that it's the same but with more dmg
Love the videos keep it up Mr Decil :)
that how get hidden AP+24 lightstone set watch your back, how set your lighstone use? when im use garmoth for see. that not show effect
how did you took your horse inside?
Hi, I'm a little confused. Around 8:08 you mention with a weapon you can still one shot but without it you cant and it takes extra time to kill each mob of monsters. What do you mean by with and without a weapon? As in both clips you have the same weapons equipped and in fact without a weapon you cannot attack. So i don't understand what this means. Am i missing something?
Elvia buffs
@@tactuel Ok thank you
hello sir, how good is the guardian for a new player, there are so many classes and some say do maegu, some say do witch, some say do guardian etc, i really like the viking style, but is it a god class for the whole game?
GUARDIAN GOATED
@@Dionys-_- is she not to slow for pvp?
@@DEMONSPIKE She's on a 'slower' side overall. But that's the thing. All class have cons and pros, you gotta try them out if you like their play styles or not. Guardian is slow, true, low apm, but easy to play, tanky, hit hard.
how do you get that many shards? I get only like 3 in an hour with 17k trash on orcs
Do you think it's better than kratuga with same gear? (silver/h wise)
on guardian YES , on other classes idk , maehwa for example excels at kratuga but i bet she would grind biraghi a bit slower than i do , especially on season gear , cuz less dmg per skill and tinier aoes
welcome back hehe. Biraghi was fun but it got boring very fast for me and i simply got 1 upgrade and bought the rest, orcs is broken, on my guardian (awa), i can pull consistently between 34 to 36.5 k trash per hour on marni with succ its a little lower and i make between 1.4 to 1.55 b silver. Its chill but also boring. On i have 308 ap, lately got my pen layten, all i need now is a pen blackstar and im well over 310 ap.
so what does "in marni" mean. You've mentioned this on multiple videos now and i have almost no clue what it is and how to access it.(returning BDO player)
Is it just Elvia but were calling it marni now?
Nooooooooo not my secret spot :( I run blue LS here and can make ~1.1 bil/hr average on Maegu, very easy chill grind but requires marni recharge. Good way to convert the Orcs shards :)
BTW you should try Marni Nagas as well, similar amount of money. Less yellow shards but more vendor sellable value.
Sorry I’m new and trying to follow along and all of this is very confusing. Seems like trash only makes up for like 20% of money earned and rare items is like 80%. So what all are you including to make that following 80%? I’m assuming selling all black stones and whatever accessories drop but what about these cups/shards? Can the shards be sold or is this simply farming until I have enough to make the cup?
first trash loot , u sell it to the npc
other items such as the seeds of void and narcs used to be mats to upgrade blackstar armor but nowadays that's dead , u should never build and upgrade to obsidian blackstar armor so just npc those 2 as well , 3 and 10 mil each
the nail is made into the revived lunar necklace which u sell to marketplace
and the shards , yes , u keep them until u have 200 total and make one of the 5bil cups to sell it on the market , or use if u need cups but for the sake or making pure profit i count it as u selling the cup
You can see the cup mats on its description , one needs 50blue 50red 100yellow for example and it is a 5bil cup on EU , i believe another is 100yellow 100red.
The main idea is to somehow monetize every item , either npc it or sell to marketplace , the traces for example can be sold to the marketplace , the mass of pure magic is used to make blackstar weapons or enhance them but i nthis case u can vendor it for 50k silver xD
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. One question tho, when u say Narcs, do u mean Narc earrings and if so why would u vendor those when they sell for more on the market. At least I always thought they sold for me. But u may be talking about something else all together.
You made it to 26k! see instead of nerfing me you just needed to practice it \o/
About the shard value - realistically you need to value yellow shards higher than red+blue shards to normalize the income between serendia elvia spots. The default of splitting them equally makes biraghi look worse than it is on EU at least (on servers like NA where red+blue cups are 5b orcs+fogans is absurdly profitable). It depends on the price difference between different cup types. Here's what I wrote on my naga video about it below:
There's many strategies you can use to value each kind of shard.
- You could distribute the earring cup value amongst all 3 shard kinds and arrive at 5b/200 for each different kind (25m each shard). This would indeed make orcs (and fogans) have the highest income.
- I choose to allocate the extra value between the red+blue cup (3.5b) and earring cup (5b) to the yellow shards because it's primarily yellows and yellows take longer to grind. It's simple and makes all 3 kinds of spots satisfying.
- Technically the most accurate strategy would be to distribute the value based on average shards/hr at each spot. So if you get 20/hr at yellow spots, 25/hr at red and 30/hr at blue then you split up the value of whatever you make by those ratios. e.g. earring cup becomes 5hr yellow, 2hr red, 1.67hr blue grind. I won't run through the exact math for this but if you split it up this way you end up with 28.8m yellows, 23.1m reds and 19.2m blues. I don't like to bother with mathing it out this much as it's annoying to explain.
ic, it is an idea but i think i'll keep them evenly priced because at the end of the day the cup needs 200 shards and no one shard is better sicne u do need all 200 to cash in , so far it seems that 24 is my average at biraghi but i did get similar numbers at orcs , i hope at least cuz i'll do the math and the orcs video today , i took out the money needed for blackstones and bmcs thats why mine is under 25mil , it just makes more sense to me to value them evenly , i believe there was also a cup that needed 100/100 distribution in which case yellows would take just as much time , idk.
And yeeeeee i did get 26k , once xD
Turns out i just had to tryhard , i checked my clips while editing and tbh so many other hours , the ones on stream , could be better , most of the 4min clips i had as background at one point failed to follow the skill rot and would mess up , especially without a weapon soi can see myself going from 24.5 to 25.5k or so o naverage . High fps helps a bit too cuz the game feels more responsive , i did the 165fp hour at orcs today and it does make a small dif , i got 33.7k which is a record for me from 32.7k , and it didn't even feel that broken cuz after i finished i told myself yeaaaaa this isnt as tryhard as it could have been cuz i was kinda tired at 1am last night o-o
I hate this map, the loots are capped by your pets speed, even with 1 t5 + 4 t4 is still not enough to pick up the loots and it gave anxiety, I feel like missing a lot of shards if I skip the loots.
Smaller rotation is good for that
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Please test with no maids + standard weight limit. 1k Weight
How is your ap and dp so high with only season gear I have everything pen and im at 307dp and 244/242 ap. So how is yours so high?
He’s completed all the journals and quests that give ap and dp. I believe it’s around an additional 8-10 ap and 8-10 dp
@@michaelsoto3968 he has 312 ap and 399 dp in the video bro, how on earth is that "seasonal" gear. pen seasonal gear is tet boss equivalent. the video is beyond misleading and imo is just clickbait trash misleading newer players.
@@Valintus 4:42 and 6:48
Isn't all of Serendia Elvia, aside from Orcs and maybe BM, mostly based on the future value of the items you get (if you make / sell cups)?
Depends on whether they're valued and/or how in the earnings calc, but to a degree, yes. You could also argue that you forego the BS upgrade stones you can get from the spots because people typically sell the Void Seeds, Okiara's, etc.
If you're using Garmoth to track the silver/hr you could always put the value of the Shards at 0.
it is , but believe me i spent like 30+ hours these past few weeks in elvia and it is so easy to get shards , most spots are 20+/h so u basically just need 200 total to make a cup , the sorrow one is 50 red 50 blue and 100 yellow , so 10 or less hours of grinding to sell a 5bil cup , for most ppl grinding 10h isnt that big of a deal , i would only value them at 0 if u plan to check out elvia for just 1h and then never return , again it only takes 10h to cash in then u can move on to some other place if u wish o-o
Also sell seeds and the others like okiaras or narcs cuz no one should make blackstar armor nowadays , sadly cuz i rly liked it and i even hada full set at one point :
its broken if your class is good for elvia. Guardian is the best on Elvia realm, so it is the highest standard possible. Also Duodecil don't use his horse. It added a value also.
biraghi marni vs naga marni which is better?
i'll eventually get to cover nagas too but so far they are about the same for me , same 1.2b and same shard , a bit less o nthe shard side tho ,biraghi drops a bit more on average but the trash value is better at nagas so it evens out , at least for me it did , both are done in marni so really very identical
acce drop rate is higher in nagas though.@@Duodecil
What do I need to do to get Monsters there? I only have weak creatures and in marnis no monsters.
enter elvia , on the top right next to your map should be a button to , green in color to enter the elvia realm
@@Duodecil oh lol never heard that before, ty
Where to put horse I tried your spot but just dies ?
in marni room there are no mobs uhm idk how that place is named , the small space with a fence , where i sit with my tent , it has no mobs inside marni so climb up the hill first , enter marni and then ucan put the horse down , just remember to move it before u leave marni so he doesnt die , or u can leave the horse on the hill next to the fort wall if u wish but its harder to reach if u plan to use it to drop trash
hey duodecil ive been watching your videos and i love them.. i have a small favor and its that can you show me your all around crystals?? would love to see them thank you
I've been burning agris at abandoned mon, just because. Then orcs and fogans as normal lol
dw , at least u do better than me , i keep it saved JUST IN CASE i need to test something so it often sits at max for weeks xD
I don't understand how you get so much trash per hour. I have tried your class Awakening guardian at orc camp with 283 AP with 342 DP, I have demi human Lightstones (according to Garmoth i also have the crystals giving me the most damage at orcs) and I run Frenzy draught, I tried perfume of courage, and simple cron meal and church buff. I am perfecrly clearing rotation 1 and 2, i can see rotation 1 spawn when i am done with rotation 2 and i included the caste (taken your rotation) and I am only getting 17k trash per hour.. (how ever my seed of void has increased from 5-8 to 12+ swapping to guardian. But you are getting 26k trash in an hour with season gear like what the hell I muust be lacking damage or maybe there is something i am missing. 😀
Do you think this is possible on console without artifacts etc
good question , idk , i am not even sure if console got the big pve buffs which matter way more since it buffed guardian's aoe dmg by like idk 20% ? or more , i am inclined to say no just cuz i feel like u dont have the buffs or the artifacts , i don't know u have all the crystals either
@Duodecil man I appreciate the feedback! Sucks because PA doesn't care and thete aren't really console players making guides
you mention a "weapon" for half the duration.... what do you mean? sry new player here
Do I need to enter elvia realm for this to work? Im on season server
yes this is on elvia
@@Duodecil i tried and I couldnt do anything with full end season gear and cheap crystals, I got destroyed
Clearly I am not understanding what exactly is giving you over a bill an hour. Because when I add everything up on your garmoth screen shot I'm not getting those numbers. Are the shards of night counting for a lot of money per? if so, since you cant sell them to other players, is the "actual" money one bill an hour? As in, once you are done with your hour and sell everything immediately that you just got does that equal one billion silver?
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Can you update your top 50 agris spots with this new method :3
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Or make it even top 25 because there are so many spots not even worth mentioning
i plan to at some point but for now in terms of big projects i wanna finish the exp one , then i'll work o nagris , i can't do it fast cuz as far as i know there is no official agris/mob chart out there with up to date values , and garmoth doesn't track mobs/h so doing it all on paper without visiting the spots myself is not rly possible atm but i will get to it , most likely next year , just not this month , or who knows xD
These videos are great but it's a shame that spots are so dependant on so many variables. The game would be so much better if you'd just have a general pvp and pve set.
it makes it more interesting imo , it would get boring if everything ran on the exact same crystals/gear/food/etc xD
@@Duodecil that's why we have you do our dirty work :)
dont forget to mention that u use 50% dr scrolls
so u cannot do this efficiently at lvl 61, not with season gear or anything remotely close. im sure it will work just fine with season gear once youre level 63+ but not at 61.
I dont get how u get so much trash on them and so much shards i get around 12k on 281 witch awa and 5-7shards on a lucky hour.....
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