Hearthstone: Big Decks for Big Guys (Quest Druid)
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*draw counter appears*
This gon' be good.
Burni O Trump is a moron. Allowing shaman multiple draws is reallllly bad.
He lost due to to not having enough tempo, instead of getting outvalued. If he had used 4 mana to kill a 0/3, hed have fallen behind even more and would have lost even earlier.
Burni O о
At the end of the game trump had 5 (8 assuming he cast his card draw spells) cards to his opponent 11 soon to be 12, he definitly got outvalued. A sufficent gap in card advantage more often than not gets followed by an unsurmountable ammount of tempo for the winning player (as long as both are playing a "fair" game, crazy combos have they´r own logic tough)
Goddammit Trump, you and yout rationalizations of allowing a clear threat to go unanswered.
If Barnubus had taunt the Quest would be so much better. You need that bit of recovery in order to start playing big guys.
Jacob agreed
Jacob you're a big guy
if the 2 Mana 2/2 would discover a Minion instead of giving you a random one the Deck would be way more fun to play, too. All you do is play Minions, lose to every Pirate Warrior and Quest Rogue and get bored really quickly.
Yeah, he needs something, anything else. Taunt, draw, shooting damage, restoring HP, ANYTHING and he's at least be playable.
As is, you're better off playing Quest Druid without using the quest.
Jacob won't matter too much I feel like .. The main problem is that Druids don't have a reliable aoe card. Swipe deals one damage and Starfall costs too much.
13:56 least greedy while letting him draw 6 cards in order to play sth big every turn
Old Poppy was op I liked his comment 'I let him draw every turn and still lost to tempo'. Hmm, how can you stop an oponent from always having tempo cards on hand?
Old Poppy was op in my opinion he made a bad call by letting it live, he tried to justify it by saying he would fall behind to the shamans tempo, but for all he know he only for those "tempo" cards through the mana tide
Henrik Storbakk You are correct. Not only was it the right play, it was a mana efficient play. Trump was clearly wrong on that play.
I've played a lot of Quest Druid, and the biggest problem I'd say is that it gets more value then it can use
Rowan Mayer he said that in the video
I probably should have watched the whole thing first then...
are u a fortune teller? 🤓
That turn 4 on that Shaman game. It's so infuriating. Swipe was so good there. Many people don't consider it important, but he would have cleared that Healing Totem as well, which is a serious threat in my opinion. If the Swipe isn't used there, it will be much harder to use in the future because of that Totem, because all other hero power totems from the Shaman except for Searing will survive the swipe and then get healed back to two hp. So he would have to clear the Totem later, which probably means he would have to use the hero power as well, which is two extra mana to expend. Such a nice board clear passed up.
1:07 I think I'm starting to realize it's not all about just bombrushing the quest. It's allright to take it nice and slow.
16:57 I think it's right to build this deck in the... get the quest done... like actually try to get it done pretty fast.
what?
Oni Robot Steam cutouts. At the beginning of playing this deck he thought being slow is the way to go. Later came the realization that the only way to do something unfair of to do it fast.
honestly volcanosaur is really not a bad card
arena players already know that :P
It's a pretty solid 7-drop, which there aren't many of
its a very good card
Shradow that volcanosaur is pretty good with cannot be targeted adapt.
Beryl Yaakov ancient of war
*0:43* I love how close he is too pressing threaten instead of greetings
That Shaman game... the greed was very real and he got justly punished, no matter how many attempts at logic loopholes he wants to make to justify it. He had plenty of chances to spend most/all of his mana and not let his opponent draw into comeback mechanisms for the board.
The opponent had 6 cards in hand at the end of the game, so you can argue the 6 extra cards didn't really matter.
That would be pretty stupid to argue, but I guess you can
It's not the raw number of cards, it's the possibility that the extra draws offered the shaman more chances at perfect answers when needed.
That decks pretty big Trump, are you over compensating perhaps?
Sausage Buffet for his winrate
yeah, his winrate....
IF I PULL THAT QUEST OFF WILL YOU DIE?
GujinGod it will be extremely painful
Lewis Cheung For you.
Lewis Cheung YOUR A TOUGH GUY
ya know shits getting real when jens starts the draw counter
Probably one of the most fun decks for me to play. Its a shame i could only play it during the tavern brawl event since I'm f2p :( Great vid :)
00:15 Am I the only one who smiled a little bit and remembered that good old lawyer?
If Trump had swiped the hot spring elemental the first mana tide turn, he would have perfectly spent his mana that turn, wiped his opponent's board, and had two full health minions in play. Naturally this would have put him at an insurmountable tempo disadvantage and lost him the game instantly.
That moment when you hear Trump say he'll let the mana totem stay alive one more turn and you then see that Jens added a cards drawn counter.
I believe my response was:
"Oh no....."
Some say that mana tide totem is still drawing cards to this day.
Asian with a big deck?... Unheard of.
lmao
you think yao ming has a small deck? he'd knock you off your feet with one fell swoop with his deck.
Next time I need to explain to my therapist what my thought process is when I do things like procrastinate on paying my speeding tickets for a year, I'll just link this video. Always something a little more important to do...
that thumbnail is the best yet! keep it up Jens!
wouldn't celestial dreamer be gооd in that deck? since it works really well with elder longneck and shellshifter.
When are we getting the quest warrior video ?!!?
[insert Trump Building Wall joke]
[insert butt hurt comment about how making fun of the president being bad]
[insert self righteous comment about how much better Canadian politicians are]
Lunar Visions seemed like the clear cut to me. It just sat in his hand far too many times, and just used it as an arcane intellect when he got the quest completed.
10:18 That game was some good comedy,
I got my first Golden Legendary from a pack and it was Jungle Giants. That is probably the only quest I really don't want.
the druid quest is just a win more card if u plan to get it slowly ... i mean if u got into the late game as a druid in this meta u most likely already won
never let shaman draws, I think its their only weakness. Shaman can be the strongest class if they get free draws every turn.
Kryptnyt
Question, is Lunar Visions useful in this deck since you will be drawing 0 cost minions anyway?
Can somebody please link me the stream? I really like this deck and want to see more of it. Thanks! :)
"I feel like a hippy."
- Trump, 2017
I liked that part of the video i havent watched yet. It was such a surprise!
I like to imagine that the thumbnail is how trump gets out of bed in the morning.
Since you're running Curator I think Coldlight Oracle would be pretty good. And it's also a great play after Barnabus.
"Man, I have gas for days."
--Trump, 2017
The win against the aggro druid was just so tactically good. That's why you are in legend rank and I'm not lol
Has anyone considered using Starfire as a removal and a way of drawing into a minion in the late game? Or how about including cthun as a finisher?
I see you with that title, Jens. Well played.
10:20 his reasoning that he gains a card by not swiping a 0 attack totem is negated by the fact that he could have swiped the 2 attack minion to kill it.
I found out when all videos are posted!
Change 1 letter and the title becomes more exciting.
what do you think about one coldlight oracle in this deck? It is good with the curater and gives more draw to fearlessly ramp
Mukla is a beast+ 5 attack +cheap ,not an insta-include but considerable
There's no way that you letting the Mana Tide Totem live for so long was correct, it is not only about tempo, but also about choices and variability that your opponent gains with every card drawn.
Jens could you start posting the full thumbnail in the description?
WTAF with that unanswered mana tide totem. Pretty much the stupidest thing I've seen rationalized in Hearthstone in.....ever. FREE ANSWERS FOR DAYS
So if you're a legend rank you cant get bumped out of legendary for losing?
J Reid no
J Reid nope, forever safe
14:08 I think it would be better to play barnabus and draw 3 free minions with nourish. chance for better taunts.
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Skipperino Trumperino thx
me too
Skipperino Trumperino your welcome
Skipperino Trumperino
You shaved my wife
Does clicking 0:00 skip ads?
"Ehh I'll kill the mana tide totem next turn" Famous last words
a little late but if the goal kf the deck is to summon big minions but for free and the only way to do that is summon big minions prior it just seems a lot more tedious and less reliable than ramp druid also in your list you dont have any highly stated late game minions like ysera tytantus soggoth or even deathwing yo take advantage of being zero mana
What's the point of running the quest just to discount mid-range minions, maybe, slowly? This deck doesn't really seem to be taking advantage of the quest reward.
Against aggro, if you complete it and don't die right away, you were winning enough anyway that you might as well not be wasting some slots/tempo on the quest. Against control and combo, this isn't fast enough to win under them, and not rewarding enough to go over the top. Against other mid-range decks, like elemental shaman, this seems like a really poor version of those decks.
I run Magma Rager in this deck. I find it to be really useful.
ScarcelyLucky please be joking
"Man, I have gas for days." -Trump 2017
Couldn't you have just swiped the 2/4 and attacked the mana tide totem? I mean, you didn't attack that turn anyway so you wasted 3 damage of minion attacks against a high threat card that would have cost 0 health on your side in order to not use a swipe, and in doing so you gave him 5 cards. There's no way you can rationalise that away as being a good play.
"I have gas for days" -Trump 2017
Does Quest Druid have any reliable minion options for healing?
"oh man, I have gas for days"- Trump 2017
You know the totem draws a bunch of cards when there is a counter
This was better than putting the buttons over the video.
4 u
Should this deck include a Deathwing?
Ah three years ago ahhh.........
Read the title, checked the decklist, now i am confused.
Big quest for big guys. For you.
I don't think I've seen this deck even once after like the 3rd day of the expansion. I think the Paladin quest is the only one I've seen less.
Well congratulations, you got yourself Legend.
Now what's the next step of your master plan?
Crashing this meta...
WITH NO SURVIVORS!
2:14 Oh hey looks like you just paid 2 mana to nuke your own board, good job!
All the durdly cards with 4 attack feel off to me. Maybe a tempo version of this deck is possible.
Trump's videos....One star.
skip to 9:31 and turn on subtitles.
Nooo Ice Rager! It was your time in the sun!
Mana Tide Totem is actually an anagram of Pot of Greed.
Kappa
WrathRaf
arent jokes supposed to be funny
"kappa" is basically a laugh track.
what does Pot of Greed do?
Strider Zessei draws another pot of greed
Buu Fuu "Kappa" is more of a "/s" (i.e. Sarcasm notation)
Strider Zessei Pot of Greed lets me draw two more cards from my deck!
how would that deck against quest rogue?
What a sad day and age for HS, where all of the fun and creative decks are pure garbage because of the aggro. Then you finally get a slow matchup and it's an OTK deck that you can't really play around. Fun.
Simple Tora that has always been the case. And it's probably best that it stays this way. fun decks should stay fun. when they become good they can be problematic. cough cough yogg druid
LET THE BANE POSTING COMMENCE
this thumbnails are...are...weird and i like it
I miss Ancient of Lore they should change it so that you add two innervate to your hand or gain 2 mana crystals or something
why no Kun Cthun combo? with the bounce panda package. feels good to play a free cthun and bounce it back and playing it again. its like brann never left us
Aviana also rotated out, so that combo doesn't work anymore, sadly.
Syrange13 quest reward: your minions in your deck cost 0
you wont need aviana
Twenty Øne Leafy Fangirls Oh, right. I'm dumb.
Would this deck be too bad if I replaced the quest with another card?xd
Hey, wouldn't it be cool if they rotated in a few disabled cards every week or month to inject some variation to the meta? one or two class cards for each class and one class legendary each and 3 neutral cards of each rarity could be pretty cool, yea sure some very strong cards could be enabled for one class, and weak cards for another, but that's what expansions do no?, just at a larger scale.
Azathor no that would not be cool. rotating cards will just get rid of varity. we only need rotation for problematic cards
Well i don't play HS much anymore, i mainly watch, and when i do play i don't play at a high level.
It was likely to be a bad idea.
I feel like this deck doesn't need the quest.
BEETLEBERRIES
MY FAVOURITE
3 mana draw 7 :thinking:
big decks, big guys, big fun
Trump was right leaving the mana Tide up, should've cleared the first turn he could with Swipe...
Any sub for lunar visions?
44 mana in hand - dream meta
Did you know Talon is responsible for 25% of all first bloods?
i'm so happy you lost vs mana tide
Is... Is this a banepost?
out tempo a shaman as druid? was that really the plan trump?
aiming for free minions... I would love to see cenarius in some decks
isnt this deck just a worse jade druid?
Where is the iceragerino Kripperino ...
4/26/2017 "Man I have gas for days" 3:23
- Adolf J Trump
"Because Druid is ONLY an aggrieved deck"
*playing a non aggressive Druid deck*
Scott Kemp who else but trump?
Cause nobody played quest druid
Aggro druid should feel bad about themselves
If only orgasmorino kripperino were here...