I personally found that the show became a different creature than it was originally because the people involved evolved. I personally came back because of the new breath of passion that has been brought to the show via Nick, Ryan and Anthony. Major shout out to the new members rebuilding a community I want to be a part of.
Yeah i think i fell off around 2020, now coming back to these guys it feels refreshing now. Now i have to catch up to like whenever these guys took over.
The previous people didn’t even get paid, that’s why so many people got swapped out, that’s why the female cast is lacking. This whole company is extremely old. If everyone was treated like a family in the beginning it would’ve been way more amazing
Anthony is such an integral part of the crew. Even though he usually plays the straight man of the group, his deeper insights and willingness to even be the butt of jokes at times really is a great dynamic of this new era of JK. Him honestly answering William's question directly rather than keep on joking around was what allowed Bart and Joe to finally open up and be comfortable enough to finally talk about that difficult period of Business and personal lives.
Regarding the old drama, I do believe each side has their "truth". However, even if I still watch JK, I am on Tiff's side. There is a reason why David's video has the comments turned off while Tiffany's is on and still available to debate about the subject
@@seansoku67offering to “take care of anything financial” instead of just straight up severance pay is extremely condescending and you know it don’t tip toe around that
@@MoonRockF1whats condescending is making an agreement with your boss and than making a video out of nowhere about how you didn’t like the agreement you made. She was an entitled person who was unentertaining that’s why she’s off the face of the earth
I think most of us know what video he’s talking about and who Bart is talking about too, but I don’t blame either side. There is always two sides to a story and then somewhere in the middle is the truth. I don’t blame the person for making the video and I don’t blame Bart and Joe for not talking about it, neither of them are wrong. I think at the end of the day it’s just time changed, people change, and emotions got caught up in the whole thing. I still love JK now and what it used to be. I will always continue to watch Bart and Joe because they are the core of JK anything and for those who think the same I hope we can continue to support Bart and Joe like how they support us through this camaraderie.
Bart and Joe, those of us who have watched your content, both on JK and your personal channels over the years, have seen how you both are, whether joking around or behind the laughs to the more personal side. We see the kind people you are and where your hearts are at with your interactions with people. And how your friends are around you as well. We don't need an explanation, trusting you both to have had your reasons for the changes that were made in your own company and lives. Seeing the way your friends have rallied around you, too. It's good enough. Thank you for being true to you. We appreciate it.
If this were a singular event or two, then it might be viewed as normal turnover, but this has happened multiple times within the JK org. leading people to listen to the ex-employees. When your turnover rate continues and the people leaving by in large leave very disgruntled, you might need to get help with you business model and/or get some type of HR in place. It's your company, run it as you see fit, but if everyone leaving is always wrong and you are always right, that's short on insight and reflection. Personally, I used to love JK back in the day, but something changed along the way and that combined with many of my favorites ultimately leaving under less than desirable terms soured me on the formats. Hope you can figure out and return to what was enjoyable about the show. Currently, the cast is very "yes man " orientated so it might as well be a single person delivering the commentary...in my opinion. Good luck.
I stopped watching JKN sometime before the Tiff and Casey Split (and yes, I did see all the other vids connected to that a while back when it happened), and did not come back until more recenlty due to all of Ryan's YT Shorts! So shoutout to Ryan, for doing a great job! And I agree with Joe, the new cast does have a different vibe, and for me, it is more entertaining. But bring back Geo more, cuz shes mama beaw, and we love her from the old days.
I think she was part of it getting ruined. All the BTS feelings were starting to be felt in the dynamic of the group. Her falling out with Tiff is likely what caused it. They were super close and then not.
18:18 I will admit this part Joe says was the reason I dipped. It wasn't fun anymore. seeing certain members getting sensitive on jokes as time progressed. It wasn't till later when I starting seeing a different cast that I decided to check out the channel again, and Im glad I did. The fun was back, you don't see anyone really holding back their, "punches/jokes". This is why I love JK.
by certain ppl he means tiff😂 cuz she doesnt have the brain to comprehend anything and is just a perfomative weirdo. she crys over BLM but bullied Josh out of JK😂
As someone who recently joined, what got me hooked was how no one was holding their punches. I'm like "Wow! They're so daring! Are they really saying this for real? In here?" It was so refreshing and fun. I'm really glad to have found people who aren't afraid to be themselves even in the eyes of the public.
Jk was crashing down and I was definitely uneasy when everything was going on. But I’m so glad you guys held on, and I’m so glad us fans did too. It needed to go through that to get to this golden era we have now. The way you guys handled this is such a valuable lesson on how we should be in life, and it’s extremely mature and smart on your parts. It’s crazy that y’all can be dumb as hell also this wise. Appreciate you guys ❤
I'm so glad y'all weathered the storm. Not throwing drama back. Smarter fans listen to both sides of the story. Not trash one or the other. Everything grows and changes. This group is drama free and I love it! David is true homie!
how you gonna believe tiff who was a human vegetable n ruined jk lol look at the facts n what david n bart say its truu tiff kept goin on n on david released that pod after she said something first stop believing tiff who actually got most things wrong if you have a problem stop watchin them no one likes viewers like you hop on ouuta here
ppl grow apart, either in friendship, relationships, and even families. Once you cant be yourself with those ppl you at one point thought were lifetime ppl. its when its best to let go and wish each other the best
This specific episode and what Joe and Bart explained just made me love this channel all the way. If only more people could think that way... "In order for me to be right, I don't want to hurt someone's reputation "
So glad Bart and Joe finally got their side of the story out. Genuine people will always come out winning, so glad you guys kept OG JK alive and thriving!
@@janinelindsey-williams1927 think about it like a diamond, you take the diamond and split it in two, there’s overall side A and overall side B but on each side there are different cuts within it. Jokey Joe and serious Joe but within those two umbrellas there’s a lot more sides to him. So it’s not just a regular split because within the split there are still slight differences. Close enough to be grouped together but not close enough to be called the same
Hey I stopped watching back in 2018 just due to being busy with work. Just came back and absolutely loving the environment you guys have and the content coming out. Appreciate all you guys do and keeping the humor and real talk coming
I been rocking with y’all for so many fucking years man, I genuinely don’t know how long it’s been but it was when I was in high school so around 2017, I guess I do know how long then….. anywho, I have been on y’all’s side for everything cause I can see y’all are real, y’all are genuine, y’all learn and have so much wisdom and it shows and passes onto us. I’m with y’all no matter what. 🤙🏼💯
Probably the best response video Ive seen from JK there was a time where I watched every video and than some people of the people in the jkcrew were kinda wack, soul draining and just plain not fun. I was just watching a video but it felt super draining to even watch, I'm watching to get away from drama not watch it on a screen, and as much as I liked some of the older jk crew people they just didnt mesh in this circle you guys created. This is the best era since I started watching in 2015
as a viewer it's hard to support ppl who have allegations against them so the 'haters' might’ve not all been haters, just people who didn't want to support a company who might’ve been dismissing ppl without a proper discussion. it's easy for everyone in the room to know who is in the right but from a viewer's perspective we only saw one side of the story. I just kept watching anyway bc idc abt the drama I'm just here for your content LMAO.
@@shiota79 there's always two sides of the story. often in media nowadays if u don't come out and defend yourself people would assume you're in the wrong
@@jk4115 Even if/when people do defend themselves, people can still have a preconceived notion/narrative in their heads about any given situation through their own biases and BS. Hence why it is referred to as "assuming". When all this first went down there were so many comments of people saying "I always knew this..." or "I always knew Bart and Joe were..." Claiming they were all about money over people which is a load full. People even went so far as to blame Geo for what happened even though she hadn't been on the show in several months and doesn't make staffing decisions on the channel.🤨 They don't have to defend themselves because those of us who have watched them for years, both on JK and their personal channels have learned how kind and generous they are and have been to their friends, family and staff. The staff themselves in the crew videos talked about how when they were first hired they were fresh out of college, didn't have the job experience, yet Bart and Joe gave them a chance anyways. They did the same with Tiff when she wanted to quit her job at the hospital. They paid people well, gave bonuses, company trips, and paid vacations. They didn't and don't deserve your negativity and skepticism. 🤨
I've watched JKnews since the very beginning and yes, I completely agree with Joe saying it got to a point where it wasn't fun anymore. I LOVE how JKnews is NOW. I feel like you guys are free to speak your minds and joke around how you want. It's so much more fun and feels like it did in the very beginning. Keep doing what you guys do, however you guys want to do it. Because when you guys have fun, it can be felt through the screen to the audience. And I just want you guys to be happy. You guys are so hardworking ❤
I was always on joes and barts side when the drama happened.. I could kinda tell how it all played out that since they didn’t reveal their side they were they took the high road and didint want to do Al this back and forth drama. Especially when David went off about it. Stayed with jk through all of it glad you guys kinda hinted at it
Because Joe and Bart are so crazy and hilarious, you forget how intelligent they both are. To see the bigger picture and to have a TH-cam company last for so many years is super impressive. Their business sense and work ethic is something I look up to (David and Geo included)
From seeing everyone’s vlogs and understanding you guy’s personality I knew that what was stated in “that video” was not entirely true. I’m glad Bart and Joe spoke out without naming names or bashing. Love my jk fam. And it’s true, once the “haters” left the comment section became so awesome!
@@jw7268 no, I liked them. And josh was hilarious in party. He was just special at times. 😩😂 but I think Tiff was out of line with her video. If she felt that way she could of kept it to herself. I would understand if they only had a relationship during work hours. But they shared their lives together. Went to each other’s weddings and was there during birthdays and stuff, they traveled together. They had a real friendship and for her to just do that was super low. If that was me and I was hurt by my “friends” then I would address my feelings to them in private. Not make a public video for public opinions. It was out of line and disrespectful.
@@kiarademoner but she only made that video after David addressed it on his podcast, that was when tiff was like nope this happened - I could be wrong but I feel like if David didn’t say anything tiff wouldn’t have either
@@zubabee from what I remembered tiff spoke about it first and then David made the video talking about hers because he said that Bart and joe are not the types to say anything about it. BUT that’s how I remember it.
@@zubabee @Kiara is correct in her assessment of the situation. As well as in the timeline of events. Tiff's video came out first. Then David did his podcast episode in response, since he said Bart and Joe wouldn't address it, yet he felt compelled to speak up on their behalf. After that, Tiff posted a second, shorter video in response to David's podcast. Then Tiff also did a video with Big Mood about her having been fired. Kiara is right, that Tiff should have keep it private if she still had an issue with them. Yet, pride goeth before the fall. After the false narrative of assumptions that was played out in the comment section towards Bart, Joe and even Geo following Tiff's initial video, she never sought to correct it. As Joe has mentioned in another video without naming names, yet implying, Tiff was one of those that was more concerned with how she appeared in the comment section vs how she actually was off camera.
14:10 The issue, Bart, is that the receipts more often than not make you specifically look awful. It makes the company look bad but it make you look worse. You and Geo are consistently the problem. Which is why JK is in the shitter
Every once in awhile a video will come out and remind me how level headed and wise Joe & Bart are, this is one's of them, with Joe in the Kirkland sweater & IKEA bucket hat 😆
In the moment it probably would have felt like a better choice to release videos, but in the long run, it seems to have been best to not release any video. That's what I think 🤷🏾♀️
Honestly I use to really love JK…but so many of the crew left… you gotta look at was it them or all the other people… kinda hard to believe it was all the other crews fault… I mean everyone left. Sucks to see
I'm an old time viewer, from before JKN. During the pandemic I got busy with other things and kinda stopped watching my regular youtubers. A couple months ago I suddenly saw JKN reappear on the homepage and I'm so happy for it! Like seeing an old friend again. Now I'm back to watching all your videos and even binge watching a bunch of videos from the time I wasn't watching. I missed you guys and I didn't even know it! lol. I noticed in the comments I'm not the only old viewer that returned. So, good on you for getting the train back on the rails. JK rules!
Silver lining, the haters did leave and now the real ones are still staying around. Seeing random comments here and there of new joiners, its great to see that a proper/non-toxic community is being built once again. Mad respects to you guys. From a fan since 2013
Love you guys since day one. Don't need an explanation and got too much drama around me. I see JK as a good watch full of laughter, dark jokes, being assholes and having fun. Be Careful boys
I'm a new sub due to the hilarious YT shorts but whatever you guys are talking about in the full length videos, I genuinely am interested and freakin entertained with you guys' dynamic and stories. I'm so glad I came across that Jackie Chan short 😆I never felt alone in my house since then. Thank you
It's all part of being the boss. There'll always be 2 sides of the story. Google doesn't make a video explaining the firing of their employees and B & J did the right thing. David just needed to rant, b/c that's his nature.
I’m gonna keep it real. I left when all that happened. Mostly because it was confusing and I didn’t have the energy to watch all the vlogs and everything else to get the full picture. There was too much going on at that time. But I’m glad to be seeing your videos again.
we all know a certain someone, i'll just call "teacher" was holding the show back always shutting down jokes, taking everything as a personal attack, not letting anyone riff raff n have fun. ever since that person left the show has finally regained it's old fun, kick'n it silly vibe. keep growin, ya'll
All respect to [REDACTED] but she clearly didn't want to be there for a long time and usually brought the funny bits to a screeching halt. At the end of the day tho idk yall and i dont like parasocial shit or care much about what happened lol, I'm just here for a laugh and the attitude era is peak.
Still not airing out the dirty laundry, so major respect to Bart and Joe. Sucks that they lost that relationship, but at the same time someone who would, in my opinion, bite the hand that has fed them probably isn't a relationship you'd want anyways
Casey got Tiff’s back which u should do as a husband…but u should also call out their BS…if she didnt want to work their anymore thats one thing but to end a friendship and do so publicly on a video thats where u should come in and not let that happen…they were all bestfriends and family at one point…credit to Bart and Joe for not stooping to that level
@@zubabee No. Tiff made her video first. David's podcast was in response to her video. Then Tiff made a second shorter video in reply to David's podcast. Then Tiff also talked about it on Big Mood. If she still had an issue with them she should have addressed it to them directly in private, not taken it public.
the PEDO jokes btw… looking back they made jokes that were super OD.. we all grew out of that now that we’re older and realize those jokes aren’t funny at all anymore…
There was nothing wrong with the vid Tiff put out. She simply said it was disrespectful that the owners didn’t tell her out right that she was going to be let go. There’s nothing worse than being led on only to get the boot in the end. Fair enough they wanted the comp to head in a new direction but at least be upfront with your intentions. David on the other hand had no business meddling in. His vid is more of an attack and he disclosed info that didn’t need to be disclosed ie about how tiff and case got a share in Junbi. What was the point of that? But judging from this vid, I agree with what someone else has said that the issue seemed to be mainly around Bart and Tiff.
You’re literally playing into what they were talking about in the vid. Believing one side of the story. She could’ve been lying and exaggerating half of that.
She was letting her pride speak for her and didn't bother to even try to correct it when the false narrative of assumptions were being thrown around in the comment section towards Bart, Joe and even Geo afterwards. If she still had an issue with them then she should have addressed it directly to them in private, esp. given their history, instead of dragging people in the court of public opinion. That was what was wrong with Tiff's video she put out.🤨
@@bethnichols2875😵 As I recall she said she put out her video only in response to Davids's inaccurate remarks in his. Maybe you should get back on your meds💊 and watch it!
@@steveburns6551 Get your Facts straight. The video where she mentions it is in response to David was the second video. The initial video that David responded to was the one Tiff posted on her and Case's channel 1st.🤨
honestly, i love the new crew, the split was needed. It was clear as day to anyone that the videos were getting too woke and more serious when that was never what the channel was about.
We all know which video and cast member they are speaking of around 13:42 ! I’m glad it’s all passed them now because the Careful Boyz and JK in general has been excellent as of late.
Going off of what Bart and Joe said, I think the older you get the more the statement " a wise man once said nothing at all" becomes relevant. There's no sense in making a big deal out of something you know isn't worth it.
Honestly it's better that Tiff and Casey left, they have a baby now and are on another path, I still watch their vlogs just because all of the history. I'm not sure why David and Tiff had to make videos about it, they shouldve had Bart talk about it, he's the only mature person out of everyone lol Honestly Taika could've done a better job at explaining everything then what Tiff did.
to be fair i never started watching jknews for tiff n cass or whoever worked for you guys. you guys are the actual content and now you have the best crew you EVER had
Even though I wish I knew their side of the story, I'm glad they didn't give in, and feed into the drama. I'm glad I stayed around, I wasn't sure if I'd carry on watching when all the changes were happening, but god am I glad I stayed watching. Now is absolutely hilarious, love the dinamic and the comedy 👌🏼
@@steveburns6551 Yes! Seriously! And btw, in regards to your "observations" from another of your comments. You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Steve's main source of income is from JK. He has many ventures working in his life. And he has flat out, freely said himself that he loves this group of guys and working with them is the best. So idk what "vibes" you think you have "observed" in passing.
I wish Bart and Joe could just make a video about the situation and tell their side. I know they probably won't, and maybe it's better they just continue on without addressing it. Anyway, that's just me wishing I knew their side.
I never actually left , except 4 one year 😂. I missed them so much that i came back. And i am old as duck.😂 But i do miss Jeo the most. She's an amazing woman. Bart is so lucky.
We all know who they're talking about, and I won't mention names bc my comment has been deleted for doing so. I for one see their side, and pointed out how the other side seemed done with the team, constantly talked about leaving and wasn't surprised when they were given the pink slip
i think i've been a fan for too long that i didnt know which one they were talking about until they mentioned vlogs lmao i was like "oh, the most recent one"
Damn Bart, no need to explain bro i do understand you guys and seen how you guys treated your staff and their family/kids over the years, in my eyes you guys are not the villain.
I personally found that the show became a different creature than it was originally because the people involved evolved. I personally came back because of the new breath of passion that has been brought to the show via Nick, Ryan and Anthony. Major shout out to the new members rebuilding a community I want to be a part of.
Yeah i think i fell off around 2020, now coming back to these guys it feels refreshing now. Now i have to catch up to like whenever these guys took over.
The previous people didn’t even get paid, that’s why so many people got swapped out, that’s why the female cast is lacking. This whole company is extremely old. If everyone was treated like a family in the beginning it would’ve been way more amazing
this got real real
Real like their last name?
@@prittybetchy 😂
Tiffany del REAL 😅
I like how we all know 🤭
👀😬😬😭😭
Anthony is such an integral part of the crew. Even though he usually plays the straight man of the group, his deeper insights and willingness to even be the butt of jokes at times really is a great dynamic of this new era of JK. Him honestly answering William's question directly rather than keep on joking around was what allowed Bart and Joe to finally open up and be comfortable enough to finally talk about that difficult period of Business and personal lives.
Regarding the old drama, I do believe each side has their "truth". However, even if I still watch JK, I am on Tiff's side. There is a reason why David's video has the comments turned off while Tiffany's is on and still available to debate about the subject
She got upset even when joe offered her money if she needed it. She always offended, that was the problem. once a triggany always a triggany.
@@seansoku67offering to “take care of anything financial” instead of just straight up severance pay is extremely condescending and you know it don’t tip toe around that
that doesn't prove anything lol
@@MoonRockF1whats condescending is making an agreement with your boss and than making a video out of nowhere about how you didn’t like the agreement you made. She was an entitled person who was unentertaining that’s why she’s off the face of the earth
@@alextruong6077you die hard fans are insufferable 💀💀
Not gonna lie without Steve, nick, Ryan, and Anthony the show wouldn't have evolved from good to great 😉👍
I think most of us know what video he’s talking about and who Bart is talking about too, but I don’t blame either side. There is always two sides to a story and then somewhere in the middle is the truth. I don’t blame the person for making the video and I don’t blame Bart and Joe for not talking about it, neither of them are wrong. I think at the end of the day it’s just time changed, people change, and emotions got caught up in the whole thing. I still love JK now and what it used to be. I will always continue to watch Bart and Joe because they are the core of JK anything and for those who think the same I hope we can continue to support Bart and Joe like how they support us through this camaraderie.
💯 Agreed.
What's the video and is it tiff's instagram video?
I'm not so caught up with this situation, could you give a quick synopsis/link some videos?
The new crew is awesome. Anthony, Ryan, Steve and Nick.
Bart and Joe, those of us who have watched your content, both on JK and your personal channels over the years, have seen how you both are, whether joking around or behind the laughs to the more personal side. We see the kind people you are and where your hearts are at with your interactions with people. And how your friends are around you as well. We don't need an explanation, trusting you both to have had your reasons for the changes that were made in your own company and lives. Seeing the way your friends have rallied around you, too. It's good enough. Thank you for being true to you. We appreciate it.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Facts
@kc myth After having watched Josh's interview on Steve and Nikki's podcast, I doubt he would appreciate being labeled as a victim.
Great comment Beth !👍🏽
Well said
If this were a singular event or two, then it might be viewed as normal turnover, but this has happened multiple times within the JK org. leading people to listen to the ex-employees. When your turnover rate continues and the people leaving by in large leave very disgruntled, you might need to get help with you business model and/or get some type of HR in place. It's your company, run it as you see fit, but if everyone leaving is always wrong and you are always right, that's short on insight and reflection. Personally, I used to love JK back in the day, but something changed along the way and that combined with many of my favorites ultimately leaving under less than desirable terms soured me on the formats. Hope you can figure out and return to what was enjoyable about the show. Currently, the cast is very "yes man " orientated so it might as well be a single person delivering the commentary...in my opinion. Good luck.
I stopped watching JKN sometime before the Tiff and Casey Split (and yes, I did see all the other vids connected to that a while back when it happened), and did not come back until more recenlty due to all of Ryan's YT Shorts! So shoutout to Ryan, for doing a great job! And I agree with Joe, the new cast does have a different vibe, and for me, it is more entertaining. But bring back Geo more, cuz shes mama beaw, and we love her from the old days.
I think she was part of it getting ruined. All the BTS feelings were starting to be felt in the dynamic of the group. Her falling out with Tiff is likely what caused it. They were super close and then not.
FINALLY Bart speaks up!!! Thank you Bart!!
18:18 I will admit this part Joe says was the reason I dipped. It wasn't fun anymore. seeing certain members getting sensitive on jokes as time progressed. It wasn't till later when I starting seeing a different cast that I decided to check out the channel again, and Im glad I did. The fun was back, you don't see anyone really holding back their, "punches/jokes". This is why I love JK.
by certain ppl he means tiff😂 cuz she doesnt have the brain to comprehend anything and is just a perfomative weirdo. she crys over BLM but bullied Josh out of JK😂
As someone who recently joined, what got me hooked was how no one was holding their punches. I'm like "Wow! They're so daring! Are they really saying this for real? In here?" It was so refreshing and fun. I'm really glad to have found people who aren't afraid to be themselves even in the eyes of the public.
Love my JK fam and Walter ❤ I respect the hell out of Bart and Joe for just moving on.
Amen
this
Jk was crashing down and I was definitely uneasy when everything was going on. But I’m so glad you guys held on, and I’m so glad us fans did too. It needed to go through that to get to this golden era we have now. The way you guys handled this is such a valuable lesson on how we should be in life, and it’s extremely mature and smart on your parts. It’s crazy that y’all can be dumb as hell also this wise. Appreciate you guys ❤
cant be a golden era when their views are statistically lower than that period lol
@@gabriursa it can if the contents better
Shut the hell up
The show is at it best its ever been. Bart and joe have ALWAYS been real one. Keep up the great work careboyzz👍🏼
I'm so glad y'all weathered the storm. Not throwing drama back. Smarter fans listen to both sides of the story. Not trash one or the other. Everything grows and changes. This group is drama free and I love it! David is true homie!
Shit I didn't listen to anything. I just wanna laugh.
Why didn’t Bart also mentioned how David made the video but got literally almost everything wrong though lol
how you gonna believe tiff who was a human vegetable n ruined jk lol look at the facts n what david n bart say its truu tiff kept goin on n on david released that pod after she said something first stop believing tiff who actually got most things wrong if you have a problem stop watchin them no one likes viewers like you hop on ouuta here
ppl grow apart, either in friendship, relationships, and even families. Once you cant be yourself with those ppl you at one point thought were lifetime ppl. its when its best to let go and wish each other the best
Yo, that’s GOOD! Thx for this. Blessings.
This specific episode and what Joe and Bart explained just made me love this channel all the way.
If only more people could think that way... "In order for me to be right, I don't want to hurt someone's reputation "
So glad Bart and Joe finally got their side of the story out. Genuine people will always come out winning, so glad you guys kept OG JK alive and thriving!
The multifaceted duality of Joseph Jitsukawa is nothing short of phenomenal
multifaceted duality?
@@janinelindsey-williams1927some shit a lame like Casey would say 😂
@@janinelindsey-williams1927 think about it like a diamond, you take the diamond and split it in two, there’s overall side A and overall side B but on each side there are different cuts within it. Jokey Joe and serious Joe but within those two umbrellas there’s a lot more sides to him. So it’s not just a regular split because within the split there are still slight differences. Close enough to be grouped together but not close enough to be called the same
@@JonathanAlexanderM tldr
@@eduardopachichi6581 that’s perfectly fine 🤝
Hey I stopped watching back in 2018 just due to being busy with work. Just came back and absolutely loving the environment you guys have and the content coming out.
Appreciate all you guys do and keeping the humor and real talk coming
I been rocking with y’all for so many fucking years man, I genuinely don’t know how long it’s been but it was when I was in high school so around 2017, I guess I do know how long then….. anywho, I have been on y’all’s side for everything cause I can see y’all are real, y’all are genuine, y’all learn and have so much wisdom and it shows and passes onto us. I’m with y’all no matter what. 🤙🏼💯
Probably the best response video Ive seen from JK there was a time where I watched every video and than some people of the people in the jkcrew were kinda wack, soul draining and just plain not fun. I was just watching a video but it felt super draining to even watch, I'm watching to get away from drama not watch it on a screen, and as much as I liked some of the older jk crew people they just didnt mesh in this circle you guys created.
This is the best era since I started watching in 2015
as a viewer it's hard to support ppl who have allegations against them so the 'haters' might’ve not all been haters, just people who didn't want to support a company who might’ve been dismissing ppl without a proper discussion.
it's easy for everyone in the room to know who is in the right but from a viewer's perspective we only saw one side of the story.
I just kept watching anyway bc idc abt the drama I'm just here for your content LMAO.
@@shiota79 there's always two sides of the story. often in media nowadays if u don't come out and defend yourself people would assume you're in the wrong
@@jk4115 Even if/when people do defend themselves, people can still have a preconceived notion/narrative in their heads about any given situation through their own biases and BS. Hence why it is referred to as "assuming".
When all this first went down there were so many comments of people saying "I always knew this..." or "I always knew Bart and Joe were..." Claiming they were all about money over people which is a load full. People even went so far as to blame Geo for what happened even though she hadn't been on the show in several months and doesn't make staffing decisions on the channel.🤨
They don't have to defend themselves because those of us who have watched them for years, both on JK and their personal channels have learned how kind and generous they are and have been to their friends, family and staff.
The staff themselves in the crew videos talked about how when they were first hired they were fresh out of college, didn't have the job experience, yet Bart and Joe gave them a chance anyways. They did the same with Tiff when she wanted to quit her job at the hospital.
They paid people well, gave bonuses, company trips, and paid vacations. They didn't and don't deserve your negativity and skepticism. 🤨
@@bethnichols2875 girl I ain't reading all that it's rly not that deep
Same!! I'm just here for the content
I've watched JKnews since the very beginning and yes, I completely agree with Joe saying it got to a point where it wasn't fun anymore. I LOVE how JKnews is NOW. I feel like you guys are free to speak your minds and joke around how you want. It's so much more fun and feels like it did in the very beginning. Keep doing what you guys do, however you guys want to do it. Because when you guys have fun, it can be felt through the screen to the audience. And I just want you guys to be happy. You guys are so hardworking ❤
Sticking with JK through OT and then seeing the same David attack dog methods with Tiff, y'all still aren't being honest with "your truth"
Biggest company red flag , “we’re like a family here”
I mean they take the whole company to japan for free. It's pretty sick
@@ashouaxiong1404which is all a write off..
@@ashouaxiong1404it's also not
@@ll-vc5xofacts. My company paid for a trip to Dominican republic... They still got investigated for shady business
with the prompt, i thought they were gonna talk about when Bart got "cancelled" and had to make an apology video.
I ain’t gonna lie I miss Tiff on the show here and there..
I miss Casey, but I love Anthony, Ryan and especially Nick
I was always on joes and barts side when the drama happened.. I could kinda tell how it all played out that since they didn’t reveal their side they were they took the high road and didint want to do Al this back and forth drama. Especially when David went off about it. Stayed with jk through all of it glad you guys kinda hinted at it
Because Joe and Bart are so crazy and hilarious, you forget how intelligent they both are. To see the bigger picture and to have a TH-cam company last for so many years is super impressive. Their business sense and work ethic is something I look up to (David and Geo included)
this
Lit! I love how Joe and Bart are just freaking awesome!!! ❤️❤️❤️
From seeing everyone’s vlogs and understanding you guy’s personality I knew that what was stated in “that video” was not entirely true. I’m glad Bart and Joe spoke out without naming names or bashing. Love my jk fam. And it’s true, once the “haters” left the comment section became so awesome!
Tiff, Casey, and Josh were lame af let's be serious.
@@jw7268 no, I liked them. And josh was hilarious in party. He was just special at times. 😩😂 but I think Tiff was out of line with her video. If she felt that way she could of kept it to herself. I would understand if they only had a relationship during work hours. But they shared their lives together. Went to each other’s weddings and was there during birthdays and stuff, they traveled together. They had a real friendship and for her to just do that was super low. If that was me and I was hurt by my “friends” then I would address my feelings to them in private. Not make a public video for public opinions. It was out of line and disrespectful.
@@kiarademoner but she only made that video after David addressed it on his podcast, that was when tiff was like nope this happened - I could be wrong but I feel like if David didn’t say anything tiff wouldn’t have either
@@zubabee from what I remembered tiff spoke about it first and then David made the video talking about hers because he said that Bart and joe are not the types to say anything about it. BUT that’s how I remember it.
@@zubabee @Kiara is correct in her assessment of the situation. As well as in the timeline of events. Tiff's video came out first. Then David did his podcast episode in response, since he said Bart and Joe wouldn't address it, yet he felt compelled to speak up on their behalf. After that, Tiff posted a second, shorter video in response to David's podcast. Then Tiff also did a video with Big Mood about her having been fired.
Kiara is right, that Tiff should have keep it private if she still had an issue with them. Yet, pride goeth before the fall. After the false narrative of assumptions that was played out in the comment section towards Bart, Joe and even Geo following Tiff's initial video, she never sought to correct it. As Joe has mentioned in another video without naming names, yet implying, Tiff was one of those that was more concerned with how she appeared in the comment section vs how she actually was off camera.
Shout out to Jk for sticking to what they love. Love this new cast. ❤
14:10
The issue, Bart, is that the receipts more often than not make you specifically look awful. It makes the company look bad but it make you look worse. You and Geo are consistently the problem. Which is why JK is in the shitter
Every once in awhile a video will come out and remind me how level headed and wise Joe & Bart are, this is one's of them, with Joe in the Kirkland sweater & IKEA bucket hat 😆
In the moment it probably would have felt like a better choice to release videos, but in the long run, it seems to have been best to not release any video. That's what I think 🤷🏾♀️
Honestly I use to really love JK…but so many of the crew left… you gotta look at was it them or all the other people… kinda hard to believe it was all the other crews fault… I mean everyone left. Sucks to see
I stopped watching you guys for a little when the drama happened, but i’m back now lol, you guys are hilarious
I'm an old time viewer, from before JKN. During the pandemic I got busy with other things and kinda stopped watching my regular youtubers. A couple months ago I suddenly saw JKN reappear on the homepage and I'm so happy for it! Like seeing an old friend again. Now I'm back to watching all your videos and even binge watching a bunch of videos from the time I wasn't watching. I missed you guys and I didn't even know it! lol. I noticed in the comments I'm not the only old viewer that returned. So, good on you for getting the train back on the rails. JK rules!
Silver lining, the haters did leave and now the real ones are still staying around. Seeing random comments here and there of new joiners, its great to see that a proper/non-toxic community is being built once again. Mad respects to you guys. From a fan since 2013
Who were the haters? I feel like it’s been so long that I can’t recall the old cast….🥲
@@SandyMac312 We don't talk about Bruno-no-no-nooooo 🥶hahah
Not gonna lie been watching y’all since i was a kid and i understand things and situations change but still going to miss you all together
Love you guys since day one. Don't need an explanation and got too much drama around me. I see JK as a good watch full of laughter, dark jokes, being assholes and having fun. Be Careful boys
I'm a new sub due to the hilarious YT shorts but whatever you guys are talking about in the full length videos, I genuinely am interested and freakin entertained with you guys' dynamic and stories. I'm so glad I came across that Jackie Chan short 😆I never felt alone in my house since then. Thank you
Today is going to be a good day.
I can feel it.
I still miss tahir and kevonstage their dynamic with jk was wonderful😂
I love how Walter got everyone to laugh in the end
David is the friend that everyone needed .
It's all part of being the boss. There'll always be 2 sides of the story. Google doesn't make a video explaining the firing of their employees and B & J did the right thing. David just needed to rant, b/c that's his nature.
Dang gotta commend Joe and Bart on their wisdom and foresight
I’m gonna keep it real. I left when all that happened. Mostly because it was confusing and I didn’t have the energy to watch all the vlogs and everything else to get the full picture. There was too much going on at that time. But I’m glad to be seeing your videos again.
we all know a certain someone, i'll just call "teacher" was holding the show back always shutting down jokes, taking everything as a personal attack, not letting anyone riff raff n have fun. ever since that person left the show has finally regained it's old fun, kick'n it silly vibe. keep growin, ya'll
Chill bro she was cool and just a different personality that wouldn’t fit in the new era jk
LITERALLY dude like do yk the company where you're working??
💯
@@diegoescarfuller5096 Lol this dudes nice af, I would’ve straight out said fuck tiff, 1000% better without her
@@06MPSTyou mean the "I don't get it" girl?
I've been watching JK since I was broke. Well I still am now.
Walter is one of the most underrated guests.
All respect to [REDACTED] but she clearly didn't want to be there for a long time and usually brought the funny bits to a screeching halt. At the end of the day tho idk yall and i dont like parasocial shit or care much about what happened lol, I'm just here for a laugh and the attitude era is peak.
Still not airing out the dirty laundry, so major respect to Bart and Joe. Sucks that they lost that relationship, but at the same time someone who would, in my opinion, bite the hand that has fed them probably isn't a relationship you'd want anyways
Casey got Tiff’s back which u should do as a husband…but u should also call out their BS…if she didnt want to work their anymore thats one thing but to end a friendship and do so publicly on a video thats where u should come in and not let that happen…they were all bestfriends and family at one point…credit to Bart and Joe for not stooping to that level
@@steveburns6551 stop meat riding tiff😂
Casey would still be filming low budget music videos with crappy underground rappers if it wasnt for bart and joe.
@@ap-oi7te when she ended her friendship with them she indirectly ended his friendship with them as well
But tiff only made that video after David talked about it publicly first on his podcast, then tiff made the video as a reaction to David
@@zubabee No. Tiff made her video first. David's podcast was in response to her video. Then Tiff made a second shorter video in reply to David's podcast. Then Tiff also talked about it on Big Mood. If she still had an issue with them she should have addressed it to them directly in private, not taken it public.
"Poeple wanted to shut down certain jokes" sounds to me like "I made someone uncomfortable and I did not know how to deal with the situation"
the PEDO jokes btw… looking back they made jokes that were super OD.. we all grew out of that now that we’re older and realize those jokes aren’t funny at all anymore…
I know they deleting comments 😅
i appreciate y’all keeping it real fr
Totally love the take Joe had at the very end there, he always have some very good points. I'm ready to join the cult, time to bring back Joemalia!
There was nothing wrong with the vid Tiff put out. She simply said it was disrespectful that the owners didn’t tell her out right that she was going to be let go. There’s nothing worse than being led on only to get the boot in the end. Fair enough they wanted the comp to head in a new direction but at least be upfront with your intentions. David on the other hand had no business meddling in. His vid is more of an attack and he disclosed info that didn’t need to be disclosed ie about how tiff and case got a share in Junbi. What was the point of that?
But judging from this vid, I agree with what someone else has said that the issue seemed to be mainly around Bart and Tiff.
Well stated!
You’re literally playing into what they were talking about in the vid. Believing one side of the story. She could’ve been lying and exaggerating half of that.
She was letting her pride speak for her and didn't bother to even try to correct it when the false narrative of assumptions were being thrown around in the comment section towards Bart, Joe and even Geo afterwards. If she still had an issue with them then she should have addressed it directly to them in private, esp. given their history, instead of dragging people in the court of public opinion. That was what was wrong with Tiff's video she put out.🤨
@@bethnichols2875😵 As I recall she said she put out her video only in response to
Davids's inaccurate remarks in his. Maybe you should get back
on your meds💊 and watch it!
@@steveburns6551 Get your Facts straight. The video where she mentions it is in response to David was the second video. The initial video that David responded to was the one Tiff posted on her and Case's channel 1st.🤨
honestly, i love the new crew, the split was needed. It was clear as day to anyone that the videos were getting too woke and more serious when that was never what the channel was about.
Not everyone is a hater Bart.... Why are you so bad at recognizing your own issues
Its funny cause i stopped watching jk news for a while but since Nick, Anthony and Steve are there now its been funnier and enjoyable more than ever
We all know which video and cast member they are speaking of around 13:42 ! I’m glad it’s all passed them now because the Careful Boyz and JK in general has been excellent as of late.
I stayed cause you guys didn’t feed into her drama that came out of nowhere. I’m glad I did. Careful boys are more funny than that era of Jk.
Bart Kwan with the AOT Survey Corps outfit 🔥
I was here for everything. Thanks for continuing JK
so.. bart Is THE BOSS. Joe sounds more neutral.. joe trying to channel the topic away.
Nicks been on it wit jokes lately 😂‼️
def one sided... we saw thru that, well most of us... we here for the CarefulBoyz. Ever since The era of CarefulBoyz started.. .it has been awesome.
Bart is wearing a jacket he showed in his clothing haul video 👍
Going off of what Bart and Joe said, I think the older you get the more the statement " a wise man once said nothing at all" becomes relevant. There's no sense in making a big deal out of something you know isn't worth it.
we know who bart talking about....
Who? I recently came back to jk 😩
@@Gyarados187 tiff
its the past now but it was one sided from the start. bart and joe was just mature about it.
@@oluwaseunnijja Poor Casey and Issac lost some friends in the process. Tiff is drama. I could be wrong, I get that
@@ProcrastinatinZombie hows she drama if you also dont know the full story and she feels wronged?
JK forever! From the uncles to the danger boyz and now the careful boyz era!!
Honestly it's better that Tiff and Casey left, they have a baby now and are on another path, I still watch their vlogs just because all of the history. I'm not sure why David and Tiff had to make videos about it, they shouldve had Bart talk about it, he's the only mature person out of everyone lol Honestly Taika could've done a better job at explaining everything then what Tiff did.
is the whole drama bart was talking about all about tiffany ?
to be fair i never started watching jknews for tiff n cass or whoever worked for you guys. you guys are the actual content and now you have the best crew you EVER had
Seriously?
@@steveburns6551 yes bro seriously? Goddam stop asking everyone
@@steveburns6551 Your cluelessness in your opinions, esp. as you are not a regular viewer, makes Mr. Magoo look observant by comparison.
@@steveburns6551 tiff was useless trash
tiff went from milf to mom , happy for cass and his fam but same im glad bart and joe brought jk back to its roots, which is bart and joe :')
Even though I wish I knew their side of the story, I'm glad they didn't give in, and feed into the drama.
I'm glad I stayed around, I wasn't sure if I'd carry on watching when all the changes were happening, but god am I glad I stayed watching. Now is absolutely hilarious, love the dinamic and the comedy 👌🏼
Seriously?
@@steveburns6551 Yes! Seriously! And btw, in regards to your "observations" from another of your comments. You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Steve's main source of income is from JK. He has many ventures working in his life. And he has flat out, freely said himself that he loves this group of guys and working with them is the best. So idk what "vibes" you think you have "observed" in passing.
mudda gooo shiii! been a minute and this the most we heard. valid all around
I wish Bart and Joe could just make a video about the situation and tell their side. I know they probably won't, and maybe it's better they just continue on without addressing it. Anyway, that's just me wishing I knew their side.
13:00 is were they start talking about it
i hope they're still cool with casey
lol nope, the husband always loses his friends lol
20:51 I agree with Joe
The situation between you and a past member has NOTHING to do with David. Yet David wants to act like he was a part of that conversation. So, NO. 👎
Facts on facts, all the people that been here since the 2000s kno wasup
I never actually left , except 4 one year 😂.
I missed them so much that i came back.
And i am old as duck.😂
But i do miss Jeo the most.
She's an amazing woman.
Bart is so lucky.
We all know who they're talking about, and I won't mention names bc my comment has been deleted for doing so. I for one see their side, and pointed out how the other side seemed done with the team, constantly talked about leaving and wasn't surprised when they were given the pink slip
Well done!
Bart was talking about Tiff case and Michael leaving JK
Michael left on good terms
Nope, just 1 person.
He wasn't referring to Michael because he kept working with them till recently and Michael didn't make a video about it or them.
What about Josh? I remember a lot of people from JK roasting the fuck out of him on Twitter. Especially the person they're referring to in this video.
From what I remember Josh and her had some beef over various JKP shoots which is why he had to leave.
Are you prohibited from saying Tiffany? 😂
shout out to the apple watch ultra gang. ultra boyz !
Don't hire co workers to be a cohost and a guest. They're coworkers to be behind the scenes.
i think i've been a fan for too long that i didnt know which one they were talking about until they mentioned vlogs lmao i was like "oh, the most recent one"
Yesss been saying Bart n Joe are goood ppl and David talked ab it on his podcast 👏
I feel like Joe just Kaiser Soze’d the fuck out of us lol
YASSSS!!!!!
Damn Bart, no need to explain bro i do understand you guys and seen how you guys treated your staff and their family/kids over the years, in my eyes you guys are not the villain.
Also looking who is thriving and who aren’t. The sensitive ones aren’t.
damn didn't even know there was drama... but good on David for standing up for his fiends ps. where can I find these videos:)
David did a whole video on his genius brain podcast, it's up on TH-cam
the person they were talking about has the video on their family channel Tiff and Case