FBT CS1000, EV EVOLVE 50 and RCF EVOX8 V2 Reviewed - Side-by-side-by-side
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- A real-world, fair and scientific evaluation of 3 industry-leading column arrays. All systems were powered from the same power source, provided identical input signal and measured from a calibrated measurement system at identical distance and position in the room.
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Every speaker review should have the elements you’ve included here. Thoroughly enjoyed it! Thanks!
Excellent comparison of all three systems. Thanks for putting in the time to help us out.
I don't comment on a whole lot of videos but I had to on this one. You guys did a fantastic job showing these off. Loved how you provided all the data so we could easily see the characteristics of each system. I've been trying to find people who do exactly what you've done here with actual real world knowledge and experience. This is the first video I've seen from you guys and I subscribed because this video was just that fantastic. Cheers to you guys. Keep 'em comin'.
The best review I’ve ever seen about portable array systems!
Kudos to you!!
You hit it on the nail! Very thorough and deep descriptions. You also mentioned pros and cons for each which is absolutely true and I always tell people the same. It's your rig so at the end you have to decide what works best for you. Thank You!
Excellent and thorough video, Ben! Thank you for everything you and NLFX does for the industry. Truly the best in the business!
Great video, really enjoyed watching this, thanks for taking the time to put this together. As you summarised all of these systems have their pros and cons, after a listening test for me I choose the FBT CS 1000 system and have been very pleased with the results I've had from it over the last 10 months of gigging it.
Thanks very much for this detailed and comprehensive review!
Very good! I will definitely be going for the EV Evolve 50 since all their previous products have impressed me.
thank you ben, I had seen and heard EV at a showing in n. y and I was very impressed with it and seeing what you did here it looks good
thank you for all your input
great test thank you, finally someone who uses real measuring methods to test speakers.
I just bought the EV Evolve 30M and I would love to see the frequency test done to those as well.
Outstanding review!!! I wish that there were more like this :) Without being able to use/test each of them myself, I really like the EV on the surface.
Hands down the best review I have every seen and this statement is not limited to these three speakers sets
Great and very informative video! Singular stand alone, the evolve takes it. But just because it is arrayable, FBT has the edge on expandability. Great job guys. Thank you
Thank you Ben this is the most professional and unbiased speaker review i have seen to date.
Outstanding unbiased video. Thank you Ben.
Exceptional review and extremely fair to all three manufacturers. I've mixed two bands that have the EV Evolve 50, both running one set per side, and they sound really good. I've heard the CS1000's and thought they were okay, but have yet to hear the RCF's.
By far the best review on the internet of these setups. Hopefully you guys will continue to review and test in the future. Definitely helped me make my mind up on a system that I was struggling to find honest reviews on. Thanks and kudos to you guys.
As me being someone who over analyzes almost everything, This has got to be one of the most scientific evaluations on speaker comparison I’ve ever seen. Excellent job on showing us the actual charted data. It cuts away any bias with facts. It sure beats cranking up speakers and blaring them into a mic to see what they sound like on the other end of a handheld device lol. Thank you!
Great video, you can definitely see which one was engineered for quickest, easy setup. Locking IEC is something I haven't really seen much of before. Thanks, Ben!
The IEC input may be a locking input, but EV sent regular IEC cables with the system. Hmmmmmm.
That's lame :)
Nice work, thanks for creating and sharing this video.
Brilliant! Great demo; thanks for your time.
Thank you Ben. This`s an outstanding review and to my opinion EV is the only way 4WARD(in caps), it's classy , much lesser setup time and unique, plus it sounds really clean.
Great Video Ben. Thanks for making it.
Thanks for doing this, it's a really professional and impartial review, considering there are pro and cons to all three systems. Still can't make my mind up which way to go from my current Mackie passive system, grrr....
Thank you for this! Awesome video Ben and NLFXpro! My mind is made up.
Thanks for posting Ben!
Hi, anyway, which one has better sound power? I don't understand English very well please?
Great video to view! Thanks Ben.
Recensione perfetta con attrezzatura di misurazione al TOP !!! veramente complimenti ...manca solo un dettaglio che andrebbe comunicato al pubblico , La potenza RMS dei tre sistemi ...quindi abbiamo FBT e Evolve con una potenza di 1000 watt RMS mentre RCF con una potenza di 700 watt RMS ...questo dato giustificherebbe la differenza di pressione sonora che si verfica fra i tre sistemi a svantaggio della RCF , da prendere in considerazione anche la Praticita' Peso e Ingombri tanto cari a chi si esibisce e installa il proprio impianto ...riguardo alle connessioni e' da far presente che nella galassia RCF e' arrivata anche la serie EVOX j con la presenza in particolare della EVOX JMIX 8 ...con mixer digitale a bordo compreso di effettistica gestibile anche da app. sul telefono che rendono il sistema altamente competitivo per straordinaria quantita' di funzioni ,praticita' , pesi e sopratutto un costo estremamente competitivo !!! la meta' di un "Evolve 50 M= €1.879,00 (per gennaio 2022) " e soli € 839 per un evox jmix 8 black (nero) !!!.
Thank you for such a great report
That was a fantastic video. Well done guys.
I can't believe it's been 5 whole years since I first laid eyes on this video! And let me tell you, that Evolve 50 purchase has been an absolute game-changer for me. But as I rewatch the video now, I just noticed something that's been gnawing at the back of my mind - those speakers are on a carpeted surface! As an audio aficionado, I know that carpet can have a significant impact on sound quality. This discovery has me practically jumping out of my seat with questions and disbelief???
We'll I for one own the 1st Generation RCF Evox 8's with the wooden subs and they kick butt! I have heard many different speakers in this type of configuration. Most people use them as DJ speakers but i use them for FOH speakers for many of the bands i mix sound for. The difference for me in this test and i have seen this first hand is when you pour the gas to them they are LOUD and they don't clip! I have used these speakers for outdoor concert's and when people look at them, you see them snicker about their size. They come up to me all the time and can't believe how they can get that much power into such a little speaker. and they are clean. Ran sound for a band at a retirement party outside and talked to the guy that retired about 3 weeks after the gig and he told me his neighbors 2 miles down the road said they sat outside and listened to the band. They told him they could understand every word and song the band played.
I'm a singer and was looking at the Evox 8v2 (or possibly Evox 12) vs Evolve 50. I currently have RCF 715's. They give great sound but I need something easier to be lugging around and setting up 3/4 times per week! Cheers for the review. This has helped as I was reading mainly from DJ's!
Great video.Thanks.I purchased the Evox 8 for it's simplicity.There was a deal on the internet that bundled it with it soft shell bag which holds everything,a Yamaha mixer & travel bag & headphones by Audi-Technica, all for the price of the Evox 8 itself.Great deal.The Evolve 50 has some usable features but I worry that at some point they may fail and the whole things goes to the repair shop.I am a DJ that works sometimes 30 jobs in a row during season with an occasional night off.After three years of use I only had to replace the speak-on connector which they sent me a replacement for free.A local music store authorized dealer repaired in one day.This system is clean even when you are pushing it .This video is correct when showing how the highs taper off.Perfect sound for the dance floor and a softer sound for the people on the sidelines at tables talking,not so much in your face.I have also found that with systems like these it is better to keep them at about two to three feet away from the walls.The bass on this is loud and needs to be trimmed for tightening the low end .Definitely you need a EQ to better maximize the whole sound that this system can put out.I hope this review helps people in their decision. Thanks again for the video.
Very thorough shootout. Came hear to hear the EV. Thanks.
Excellent video, very professional, thank you.
Wow! Great review! I too requested the private video. I heard the Evolve 50 in person. Looking for a portable PA!
Great video, thank you Ben
Great demo, Ben!
Although close one important thing was missing. Input sensitivity. Yes all 3 were set to their respective 0 db or 12 o'clock depending on model but some units require more or less input to reach full output. 1 may reach full output at 0dbu or the next unit may require +8dbu to reach full power. If the 2 units just mentioned were both given the same input signal and they both had the same spl output by design the one that required +8dbu to reach full output would measure 8db's lower in level. Next time reference unit in test ( the different speakers you are measuring ) to the same level. Put a 1k test tone out with your mixer and don't touch the volume. Bring up each speaker to say 80db's of output by using their input sensitivity (volume) knob in the back to match all 3 to the same level. Now measure them. 2nd way is Bring your reference mixer up to +6db's in output with pink noise. This time turn up each speaker system until their output clip light just starts to flash and leave the knob there on the back. Use the input sensitivity knob on each speaker system so that when they all receive the same signal they all reach full output at the same time. Turn the mixer down to below speaker clipping and measure from there. Without a reference level, a 1k match or clip match there is no way to tell which one has the greater output. Regardless nice to see the RTA measurement differences of these units.
Great video. I evaluated all of these systems before deciding on the FBT CS-1000. The flexibility of the tilt-able top, and array capabilities won out for me. Not to mention the ability to have a short pole setup. I do wish it had Bluetooth, but honestly would only utilize it once or twice a year.
Ken Nottingham behringer makes a Bluetooth to XLR interface so problem solved.
Great comparison video, well done
this is possibly my favourite youtube video of all time
Superb video. Most informative speaker analysis I've seen. Would appreciate receipt of your music test.
Thank you for your kind words. Please send an email to customercare@nlfxpro.com and we will reply with the link!
Really helpful review. Very well done.
Excellent review. Thank you!
Very well done!
Hello Ben thank you for this great insight on the Speakers, i would love to see the video of you analyzing the music being played through each Speaker as well , Thanks
Superb review - thank you. What is the dB / SPL gain when using two linked identical systems, as opposed to only one in mono when fed with a stereo signal?
Nice review. I would say fbt as the winner
Awesome video thanks for the info
Super helpful! Thank you!
Thank you & excellent review & comparison.
Great video! Thanks Ben
Thanx! I have BOSE L1 and wonder how they sound compared...
Great Review Guys....so informative...had to subscribe! Rob
Great video, I was waiting for something informative like this before ordering my favorite (EV) I would be very interested in viewing the private video mentioned
It appears we can't post the private link here. Please send us an e-mail or private messages us via one of the social media platforms. www.nlfxpro.com/contact-us/ We can also provide you special pricing for any of the 3 models.
Well done, Ben.
I have tested and used all these speakers, Basically the EV is is more all in one speaker that is good sounding and overall move flexible as the onboard mixer allows straight mic and instrument plug in
thank you very helpful video .
Ben, this is an outstanding review! Thanks for sharing your knowledge in this rundown. I believe you pinpointed what specs most would be looking for in this practical test application. Any thoughts on the Turbosound?
So which one did you like best in your opinion and why? This information might help some of us decide. Thanks.
what is the software you used to analys the spectrum, and how connect the measurement mic to the laptoop. please explain will you
FBT CS1000 hands down!
Ben thanks for doing such great work for the industry. How do the 3 compare retail $ wise?
Hey Rick please contact our sales staff in our office for pricing - customercare@nlfxpro.com They will be more than happy to help you out with pricing. Thanks (Kat)
Hey i am looking at purchasing either the Evolve 50 or the CS1000. Could i get a link to the private music testing for these speakers?
Excellent Reveiw. Will you be testing the Turbosound Inspire 1000, 2000 series in the near future ?
Very good review.. well done ...thanx
Great video!!!!
great video
How do I get the link to the private video with audio, and your favorite one?
Hello Ben, this is an amazing comparison video, very clear concise and impartial. Would you any views on the JBL Eon One? Would you be able to send me your professional inputs that you were referring to please
I do miss the swivel tops but we have the EV in both black and white and it has really improved our shows.
Thank you for the very informative video. I would be interested to know how these systems compare with a Bose L1 Pro32 sub2.
Do you know of any investigations or analyses comparing details with any of the systems you reviewed?
Thanks!
Thanks, great job!
Can you send me a link to the music test you did with all 3 setups?
Hi, thanks for your review, I am contemplating buying one of these, can you send me the link to the private video please?
EV 50 IS already in an ARRAY patter for the upper, so the last comment is not giving fair representation of the EV 50, as if you look under the top mount speakers, you see they are absolutely already “arrayed” and this is why there is such pure and consistent sound quality the full 120 degrees
Great test! Do you have tested the Yamaha Stagepas K1? I'm very curious to the results.
How tall are you Ben? Really like the Evolve 50s but concerned about speaker height when wanting to shoot over dinner tables. Would want to blast dinner guests who are closest to me. Thanks!
Thanks for a great review. Please could you send the link for the music listening test? Thanks!
This make a lot of sense evolve
We just bought the EV50...have had EV's for years but wanted lighter- got that, but so much more! The sound is fantastic! The Presets are also pretty spot on. We use the system 4 nights a week and we and all our patrons are very impressed. It handles 100 to 150 people easily with just one setup. Sound distance is the best as well- even and smooth! NO REGRETS
During the limit test was the measurement mic still placed at 25ft? If so, seems like all three systems pretty much topped out at ~90db. Which would give a max SPL of about 108db at 1m (if I did the math correctly). Which seems pretty low, particularly when the manufacturers claim a max SPL of about 20db higher than that. The specified SPL is likely a calculated, theoretical peak and the real-world measurement is an average and also I don't know how the crest factor of the test signal plays into what we're seeing here. Any thoughts on this?
I feel like all SPL numbers are inflated, whatever test is done it gives the highest spl possible and not what you get in real world use, this sucks but all manufacturers seem to do it so you can still use the number to evaluate how loud one is compared to another
I'm only commenting about your cable management. ;) On a serious note, thank you for professionally testing each of these without bias. Honestly, I would have no problem using any of these. Thank you, Ben!
I would love a link to the private video if that is possible.
Hi! Great video. Could you send the link to the music comparison video?
Great video would you send me the private video
Thank You
I love the evolves - they look classy too for mobile Dj
Thanks
Please send me a link to the other video. Thank you
I was wondering if the mids and highs speaker on the EV will plug directly into the sub without the support beam, sort of like the JBL Eon One, that way if you're up on a stage you don't need the speaker to be that high
They will not, but EV offers a shorter pole.
hi BEN can you send me the email too please? Have you heard of the DB TECHNOLOGIES ES 1203? I would love to get your thoughts on that.
Thanks for the comparison! I have been running the L1M2 for about 5 years, best purchase I have ever made. I found the specs somewhere, it’s 1000 watts to the sticks and 800 to the sub, iirc. My biggest complaint has been the low end, a s ingle B2 bass module just cannot make people feel it. My larger rig is a pair of EV ELX15’s with a pair of 18SP’s, so when I need more thump, I simply plug one of 18SP’s into the base of the Bose, and it’s perfect. That being said, hauling around an 18SP is a PITA, and a pair of B2’s might be a better choice. Make sure and get the Bose mixer, it is truly a work of art. Built in compression, fx, mic and amp modeling, even a guitar tuner, but NO Bluetooth... Bose just came out with some new Tonematch mixers, maybe they have added more features. I have used my L1M2 for a crowd of 250, indoors, and it really struggled but made it through the night. I have used it for a band PA, KJ, even as a stage monitor for my other rig, and it keeps on going. A lot of people dis Bose for their pricing, and I agree that they need to be more competitive with other brands, but I’m happy with my purchase, and would do it again without hesitation. I am gradually migrating from DJ/KJ, to live sound for bands, and will likely add a second rig, but two L1M2’s are more difficult to pair and get the correct sound. The array in the M2 basically bounces sound waves off of each other, giving 360 degrees of sound all the way around the stick. Adding a second M2, depending on placement, could cancel each other out. A smarter choice for a band setup, might be the L1 compact, which doesn’t have staggered drivers, and is more of a conventional array, like the others you guys tested. Some things I would like to have seen in your test, would have been sound levels and quality from the sides (say 90 degrees), and also all faders set at the same levels with dB readings to show which one was most efficient. I would like to see a comparison indoors, with no EQ, with pink noise and an RTA. Plenty of phone apps out there for this, pink noise you can download online. That test, will show the facts about how well each systems performed in the same exact venue. Thanks again for the comparison, guys, I’m subscribing!
I've been running a pair of L1M2's with 2 B-2 bass subs, I've had no problem creating an impressive low end. My complaint is with the high end frequencies, nothing can replace a horn and driver in my opinion.
Gain staging is a must on L1 units. I also struggled in early ownership to get the best sound out of the first L1M1 with 2 B2’s then a L1M2 with a B2. You def have to have a Bose mixer to make them sing. Now I do events for up to 450 with one unit.
Is the EV a plastic box vs the FBT and RCF's wood construction?
The EV is not a plastic box. The sub is made out of birch plywood.
Are ev evolve louder than ev elx series ?
Hello! Awesome job regarding the pink noise feedback and comparison part! Is there a similar mesurement for the RCF EVOX 12?
Hey guys! I'm looking for the loudest of the three, they all sound great from what I've read, and I'm not too picky about the specifics of the sound quality. I just want the one that is loudest. It looked like the rcf peaked just a tad higher than the EV. My question is, was that slim margin on the graph actually a large margin in real world volume? Or is the graph about on proportion with how loud it sounds? If so, I want the EV, because I can take a small chip out of the volume in favor of the ascetics and quick setup.
Great video by the way!!!
Great review guys !
I would love see one one the Carvin TRX and the new Peavey 1263.
Most of my music now is 2 or 4 piece band.
Rcf says that theirs were designed with the dj in mind. More emphasis on bass and treb. Same with EV. I imagin a system more focsed on vocals cutting thru would be more band oriented.
Which did you prefer ?
16:21 you are wrong. The CS1000 HAS the built-in DSP board with 8 presets. The DSP board is mounted on the power module, which is a Class-D amp delivering 600W to the sub and 400W to the top satellite speaker
With the fbt, it can be double stack.
Hello Ben - Great, detailed review of all 3. I am interested in the private video you asssembled. With many thanks.