Hobbes vs Spinoza on Human Nature: Political Ramifications

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
  • Daniel Garber, professor of philosophy at Princeton University, explores the relationship between philosophers Baruch Spinoza and Thomas Hobbes and how their views on human nature helped shape the political culture of their day. Garber's emphasis of study is one the relationship between philosophy, science, and society in the period of the Scientific Revolution.

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  • @fehdmabrouk4725
    @fehdmabrouk4725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clear and enlightening lecture thank u

  • @leogorgone4414
    @leogorgone4414 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good teacher. Clear, helpful, and to the point

  • @aritovi
    @aritovi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great lecture

  • @josky852
    @josky852 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    excellent lecture, but why no sound from 46:20-50:33?

    • @teresaloureiro2525
      @teresaloureiro2525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it happens so often bj TH-cam . or those who pronounce the lectures do not pan attention to it . i use , in this case , then , subtitles . if they are at the language spoken at the lecture .

  • @koutoubyavision4738
    @koutoubyavision4738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did you really cut the sound when it is a question of God exists??? Even for Spinoza? What kind of secret is this supposed to be?

    • @davidfenton3910
      @davidfenton3910 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Spinoza discusses Moses the lawgiver being as God to Aaron the prophet. Thus Spinoza defines God as the lawgiver (Moses) and creator of a state/nation.
      The Judaeo-Christian 'Universal History' matches planning in Plato, particularly _Laws._ In _Laws_ book 7 just after saying people become accustomed to the diet they are physically fed as introduction to doing the same mentally as follows: _"it is precisely the same, we must suppose, with the intellects of men and the nature of their souls. For if there exist laws under which men have been reared up and which (by the blessing of Heaven) have remained unaltered [798b] for many centuries, so that there exists no recollection or report of their ever having been different from what they now are,-then the whole soul is forbidden by reverence and fear to alter any of the things established of old. BY HOOK OR BY CROOK, THEN, THE LAWGIVER MUST DEVISE A MEANS WHEREBY THIS SHALL BE TRUE OF HIS STATE._
      The state of Israel and Judaism is a literary Historical creation stemming from planning in Plato in the 3rd century BC but the false Biblical History is backdated many centuries because it followed the demand in Plato quoted above.
      The objective reality about the existence of the Hebrew God is that it is a philosophical creation stemming from planning in Plato. The theocratic political ruler/creator and manager of the State is for all intents and purposes fulfilling the role of God.
      Here is an old comment to reiterate and add a little colour.
      "Things that don't exist have no real arguments to substantiate them.
      Extant Literary evidence indicates the Christian/Biblical God is a fabrication using planning in Plato implemented by ruling elites of Imperial Rome probably around the time of the Flavian Emperors.
      It appears to be a well planned and instituted theocracy, designed to indoctrinate and deceive so that believers think official orthodoxy has been instituted by God. Thus paying taxes and obeying Imperial Laws equates to obedience to Jesus and God the Father. (and vice versa)
      Beliefs inspiring energetic willing service and obedience is a common result. The philosophical plan is designed to function through a hijacked libertarian free will, using each individuals faith inspired obedience.
      Have a lovely day
      sincerely
      d

  • @deepakrai6999
    @deepakrai6999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just exceptional... !!!
    SPINOZA ...what a genius.. but died(transcended) in middle of writing TTP
    Thanks for putting it...

    • @drericka
      @drericka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nope. Published the TTP.

    • @egilhareide8802
      @egilhareide8802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not TTP, but TP. Leibniz intereupted HIS writhing with HIS visit in 1677.

  • @openscienceerichoeven4255
    @openscienceerichoeven4255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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