DIY SSL 4000E Mixing Console CLONE, Analog mixing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2022
- My own DIY 4000E 24 channel analog "mixing console" in action.
82E149 preamp/line card
82E242 "black knob" eq and filters card
82E010 classic dynamics section card
24 identical channels going through RME UFX usb interface with 2 additional RME AD/DA converters. 26 mono fx loops total (last two for master stereo bus)
This project based on SSL service manual circuits for my recording studio needs only.
Chears!
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#diy #recording #mixing #analogmixing #ssl #solidatstelogicclone - เพลง
I'm writing just for the algorithm because I have no words to express my admiration.
Thank you!
This is absolutely insane. You should share the design files for any other people who wanna tackle something this wild
The schematics are all online
@@bn1studio429
Where? care to mention the site? thx.
@@TwstedTV I hate to be the "Google it" guy, but google it. Tons of threads on GroupDIY that will send you to the appropriate places. I think I've even found Gerber files to run the PCB's for the 242EQ, 82e10 dynamics, and S01 preamp,
@@TwstedTV Schematics aren't hard to find - but what would be massive would be the gerber files. Hand etching those boards would be damn near impossible. A gerber file is the equivalent of sending a PDF of to get printed - you could order 1 or 100 of them and start soldering.
I for one would LOVE to get my hands on the 82e10 dynamics card. Did you use 1537A VCA's on the channel dynamics?
those channel strips are something SSL should've been selling forever ago. im still surprised they dont have anything like that since the Xlogic series. great job!
Thanks!
Incredible mixing. Amazing issue
Fair play my man... what a huge undertaking!
Congrats ! Incredible !
A lot of work and dedication was most likely put into this project. And I gotta say, with how clean the desk is, and having everything reachable without your back hurting, it looks like it paid off more than well.
Thanks! You're right, this project took a lot of time and effort
@@Recording_Daily please share how you made this! This is amazing
Looks and sounds amazing, good work!
Thank you
Fantastic project and sounds great!!
Thank you, sir!
what a great sound! gotta love console mixing
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@@Recording_Daily do you make channel strips for sale?
Excellent mixing skills, thx for sharing
Thank you for watching 🙏
Lovely, much more sensible place for the dynamics too!
Your ssl clone is so dope man !!! Congratulation for it 😍
Thank you very much!🙏
This is epic beyond belief. I truly wish I had the ability to accomplish a DIY build of such magnitude. I know circuits quite well however my knowledge is far more humble than this.
Thank you!
Daaaaaaammmmn dude! Good job!!!! OUTSTANDING!!!
Thanks man!!
You should be extremely proud of this
Yoooo this seals the deal, time to tear up the Tascam 246. I've been thinking about doing this for a while, designing some cards to retrofit my old 246 (nasty NJM4560s), but only came across a few old forum posts of similar projects. Thanks for the inspiration and the breakdown! Such a sick project!! Insane, in the best way
Thanks!
wow amazing..i love it analog
Well done!!!Fantastic!!
Thanks 🎉
I mix EXACTLY the same way, dude. Great mixing!
although I do gate the toms a little tighter...let the overheads carry the rest of their decay and attack.
Thanks!
it sounds great!
Really apppreciate this video!
Thank you for watching!
Bro we killed that opening scene transition to the car!!! This was like my second video ever. I’ve since gotten way way better. I didn’t know what I didn’t know at the time. A plus performance on your part though!!! This just popped up on me.
I love this mixing control, and drochit kak horse
Did you know that the original series number 4000 came from the fact that that was the cost of parts in British pounds to build the first console (original A series, of which only one was made… followed by the B series… and THEN the E series! Great job on the desk!
That is siiiiiick. Very nice!
Thx🙏
Very good sound
Thank you very Much. Watching you do this just gave me a whole new perspective into how to get a better experience (and results) using my DAW's. This has also prompted me to fire up these Channel mixers I have (but haven't tampered with yet). Thanks again and you just earned a NEW sub with this upload.
Thanks, I'm glad to give you some inspiration!🙏
Maravilloso, gracias!!!
Incredible
Thanks!
sounds amazing on my studio monitors fp its like I'm there in the room with you
Thank you!!
Very nice, and awful lot of work and effort. Congrats! :)
Thank you very much!
That's awesome.
A great sounding machine.....!!!!!
Thanks ✌️
omg. I've considered doing something like this, but really the mechanical work (and assumption that I'd mess up the routing and grounding) put me off. This is amazing.
Absolutely AMAZING! (Lil bit jealous.)
Thank you 🙏
Great job
Thx!!
Amazing.
A very good decision. I like it) biba
очень классно, такой скилл не у каждого)) ssl супер 👍🏼
Спасибо!
Very cool ! thanks
Thank you 🙏
that's wild man
Yuri - master!
"Hello, Mouser? I'd like to order some NE5534 op-amps." "Okay, how many?" "All of them."
This is incredible, boss. Ambitious to the point of insanity, but incredible. The 5 stage LED meters right by the cut switches is a really nice touch.
This is absolutely mental
Thank you!!🙂
Great mix. I feel the music. If Chris-Lord Alge was listening, he would be happy to hear how good it sounds 😎💎
Thank you so much!😊
Cool, très cool! Quel son!!!
Merci
SUPERB 🎉
The snap of that snare though....... nailed it!!!!! I know it's a cliche to say it but the snap of the snare... that's the thing... another thing is for me... the way it's really quite mid foward but not abrasive!!! top stuff... it sounds right to me man
Thank you very much 🙏
@@Recording_Daily thank you too man... any chance you would be so kind as to give me a part list? orrr... mix a track for me?
@@Recording_Daily also... I noticed that the kicks are hitting the red but not breakin up... just nicely saturatin
LA2A on bass is godly
AWESOME
Thank you!
Very nice 🤖
😉
Таке круте відео! Дякую!
Yeeeah 🔥
wow!!
watchin and listenin to how you comp the bass on that la has given me some confidence... I wouldn't dare comp bass that much normally because (ITB Obviously) I'm scared to over comp things... but.... watching and listenin to how you do that it sounds nice and I deffo won't be scared now to use that much gr on a bass track... that said, I have compoed hard bass in la2a emulations that I have and... at that same gr in the plugins... there's nowhere near there same sort of articulation... maybe i will have to practice more lol
Sometimes i use more or less depends on dynamic range of my tracks. Actually i don't like over compressed sound either
It seems like you've recreated the basic strips, and left out the routing matrix (the RME and patchbay can handle that) and center console functions.. I take it VCA is also absent in this build - are you planning on adding the bus compression circuit in the future? Phenomenal work nonetheless.
Респект! PS: думал, что я один использую консоль как внешние плагины на всех группах)
Wow
wow
My man, this is an amazing thing you’ve put together but the content I’m here for is to learn about the project and how you did it. It’s a bit disappointing to see you showing off the gear without a single word to tell the story. Please consider sharing your journey about how you got to this point, because you’ve obviously put a stupendous amount of effort into something great. I think there are lots of us who would appreciate the opportunity to learn from your experiences.
A BIG GIANT EQUALIZER
It would be dope if you made a video showing how you made the console
Beautiful one question 24 In And out or do you have any kind of bused out?
This is nuts! AMAZING! Wow! I'd love for people/companies to start doing this and selling to people like me who can't afford an SSL! How long did it take, and if you were to build another to sell, what sort of ballpark price would you sell it for...just out of curiosity??? Thanks for the vid!
I think if he were to sell it, he might be getting a visit from SSL's lawyers, as technically if he's followed the service schematics circuits to the letter and given he's posted online this is technically a "clone" in circuit design, SSL might be justified in getting emotional at the theft of their Intellectual Property and not to mention the reference to the SSL Trademark when selling the consoles. It would be a bad bad bad idea to offer this project for sale anywhere and I'm actually surprised that even posting this video online hasnt earned him some kind of Cease and Desist letter from SSL in the event this video is monetized.
I think you and me are the only ones insane enough to try my console build challenge. Use old console modded heavily. Switchable eqs and pre amps. Digital converter included to make it hybrid. Rack unit for a few things and clones of original various console parts like compression noise gates eqs or pre amps. Multi bay console.
But one fully digital fully analog. Rack mount and converter helping it be hybrid. And sound like a few different consoles or close enough at once.
Amazing, what console frame and faders are you using?
Thank you. All strips mounted on my table directly, I just used some aluminum baffles and connected them together. Faders are simple 10k potentiometers for output control✌️
Did you make this whole console frame and strips on your own? Piece together some pre made strips into a console? I think we would all love to learn more about what you did and how it was created. Regardless, well done!!!
Thank you so much! I designing frame now. In this case all channel mounted on the table directly as prototype. I'll try make video in future
Титанические труды и тонна времени, я себе представляю, респектище! Разводка pcb в линейках также своя?
I see you have a nice DLA-2A there ... how does it sound? I'm building one at the moment!
OMG That is amazing, you are amazing !!! WOWOW - any chance you would make one and sell it to me? I'd be eternally grateful. This is way better than the Origin having compression. I would never buy an Origin because of the lack of dynamic features and because of the high price.
I've had some issues (phase mostly) mixing in front of a large concave computer monitor like that. You experience any of that?
No, my monitor does not affect the processes
Congrats !!!!! Are you using it like a console or just inserting each track in your daw as a the ssl channel strip and summing into your daw ? Asking just because I can see pan pods, or mix bus
Hi, thanks 🙏 you're right, each track inserting as external analog plugin and summing in Cubase. Mix bus is stereo fx insert - diy ssl bux compressor going to Neve 1073 for clipping (Neve helps me to mimic analog console overload)
@Recording Daily that's still incredible 😉
Why not making it as a mixing console by adding a mix bus ?
@@lessecretsduson Because automation, fx sends, groups.. routing so difficult😊
@@Recording_Daily can understand that....
Last question if I can, cost and time spent?
@@lessecretsduson Same question from me?! Tnx
This is super dope. I’m curious on the price for something like this .
It isn't a cheap build even DIY. If you had a person build a DIY unit like this for you, well in some respects it would be even cheaper to buy the SSL.
This is crazy cool!! Does it sum? Does it have master section?
Thank you very much!🙏 No, all sum in the daw. All channels inserted as external pulguns. Mastrer channel has analog bus comp as well
@@Recording_Daily Very interesting. How does is sound for your ears?
@@preciseaudioblog It's very transparent before you want get some color. You can push the line input trimmer and then the signal may hit the maximum voltage ceiling. You can get neat clipping and limiting or saturation depends on amount of input gain. it is a very flexible and versatile device. It sounds quite aggressive at times but I'm happy that I was able to touch this, even if through a diy way
@@Recording_Daily Nice! Merry Christmas by the way!
Amazing job man!!! One doubt, where is the pan knob? Maybe the pan is fixed for its channel?
Thanks! Right, pan and sends missing. Each channel inserted as external fx for Cubase, through RME IO and summing in the DAW
@@Recording_Daily Oh I see it now. Very clever for the ability to automate after the processing. Maybe a pair of SSL Sigmas? I have one and I'm very happy with it hehe
@@asemon007 Still prefer to sum in Cubase, I have good visual control over signal levels. Also using a Gssl bus compressor and a stereo preamp 1073 (diy as well) for clipping and mimic console overload😊
how are you summing all this? (oh never mind - it gets summed digitally in the box past the interface)
Epyc DIY project .. I'd like to see just an aprox cost of all those cards used. I would suspect it cost close to a 2'nd hand used SSL pult 😵💫
Thank you sir! I didn't use ssl cards for this diy. Each channel has own redesigned pcb, all cards on the one pcb
How did you made the console? Like assembling everything? Or buying it by pieces? I've assembled some DIY 500 serie equipment, I was looking for how I could assemble my own SSL 24 channel
Hi, everything designed and assembled by myself except SMT ✌️
@@Recording_Daily Nice, would like to do something like that, would you mind sharing some ideas? Or is it very complicated?
what would the selling price be on this console?
@@e.apollis2877 I don't think you can put a price on it. It would propably cost you more to get him to put a system together than buying eg a used SSL pult, even he has a finished design how to put it together. You would propably also need some kind of agrement with SSL to be able to sell a custom build pult based on their hardware. I remember dreaming of buying a Wersi organ back in the early 80's. They were sold both as preassembled and as DYI kits for like half the price. Until I realiced how much soldering was required to put all the different sound, filter and voice boards together, and hearing how many organs they had to repair for people who thaught they could manage to solder some 10-20.000 of components with basic soldering skills and no equipment or skills to to measure and diagnose why it doesn't work. The DIY part quickly died cause it was just a way too big project for people with limited tech knowledge to take on compared to the fairly small projects people could get from stores or read how to do yourself from HiFi and electronics magazines. I do really respect people that do this kind of projects, but even you buy the cards pre assembled this is not for prople that just had a basic introduction to electronics from school or some kind of courses. I would think that the components used is for trained technicians that is used to work with this kind of gear in a professional Studio environment with custom designed pults for their specific needs. I would also like to see a video myself how this was put together and how much work it required 😘
The desk looks awesome. I have some SSL EQ cards (8) for sale if you are interested
Hi Gerry, I may be interested in those EQ cards... could i get your contact info pls?
This is crazy. How and where did you get the schematics and circuits to build this. you would make a killing selling this console to interested buyers
Thank you 🙏 Schematics from original service manual✌️
holy smokes, how long did this take you to build?
Two years of research and prototypes. Crazy tired me
I’m confused is this an actual analog summing mixer? If so, I don’t see any bussing assignments or a master section. Or is this just a control surface?
No, actually there are 24 separate channel strips going through individual IO as external fx. Analog compression and clipping on master bus as well
Very nice!
How did you get the screen printing and face plates done?
Thanks! I just found a small factories locally. Some guys cutting aluminum and other making printing on top
Should make more and sell them
sin palabras
How much was the build for this?
Why didnt put any Master section (faders + ssl comp)??? 🤔
Each channel inserting in the daw and summing there✌️ ssl comp inserting on Cubase master bus as well
we need tutorials and parts list where we can get everything for this
Reason 12 will let you mix like this
And you can just bounce each track through an Affordable analog rack
Mixing with a mouse is noT mixing like this. It may look like an SSL, but is just Reason.
@@morbidmanmusic
Well, I use Reasons with a SoundCraft LX7II Acustica Audio and Acustica Audio Nebula ,with a ART Transy for Vocals and a WA G Comp SSL Cloan with my Nebula API and my Mastering Stereo channels on my SoundCraft LX7II...so trust me...he's not doing anything that cant be "Affordably Worked Around"
ufff Great, how much would you sell one like this? if it is ordered to be done?
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What Type of fader is that , where can i buy them
This is simple 100mm faders A10k, just screwed into aluminum frame
Where is the master fader on this console?
Each channel inserted as external plugin, summing in the DAW
How about share the build Info with us? Specs, parts, process?
Well, where's the master section...?
Master second on the 25/26 stereo loop🤭 there is separate strips only
Would you build one to sell?
where is the PAN knob?
In the DAW
@@Recording_Daily so, each channel on the console is stereo?
whew lot of work for an old circuit
turn the led lights off it will sound better
The UC8 tries to resolve the problem of the normal person not being able to mix like this but they’re plug-ins suck
do you sell this ?