We Tried a NEW Painting Method! Here’s What We Found.. Ep. 19
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Hey gang, in today's video we do something we haven't tried before and that is BACKROLLING. We've seen a few people talk about it here and there and we've always wondered...does backrolling REALLY make that big of a difference. You'll be surprised. In this video we go into some of our findings regarding the subject and we hope you can take away just as much from this video as we did the experience. Stay tuned for our next video gang! Thanks for watching and we'll see ya in the next one!
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When rolling and back rolling it’s always good to finish every stroke in the same direction all the way from one end to the other 👍
Cool thx 👍
true or it will flash because two different textures are created.
I used to spray lemon pledge on the gun, hose, and sprayer which didn’t allow the overspray to stick so it cleaned up very easily at the end of the day. Good work Pack, job looks great so far!
You both have gotten much better with your editing and presentation.
Keep them videos coming!
I like the way you drove up in your truck... On a 1 car wide driveway... With another car parked behind you! hahahahaha!!! :)
Good catch 👊
StudPack quantum drive can roll right through cars.
They make a spray Whip that goes on your sprayer hose and it will save on wrist fatigue. Happy painting! And it's good to have both the 9" and the 18" roll to back roll with. 9" for corners 18" for wide area! Happy painting.
Excellent job as usual guys!!! Try a wider roller next time, I feel it's much easier and faster when back rolling. Keep up the excellent work!
Different surfaces, different brands of drywall, and patches all absorb primer differently. I think that is what Jordan encountered while backrolling.
Some may come treated, but it's probably fairly rare.
The best way is to put on a thin coat and wait for it to fully cure. This will vary depending upon the chemistry of the paint itself. The second coat will cover much better. As you said, paper and mud will soak up the paint at different rates.
It's almost like they said this exact thing many times in the video
As a painting contractor of 20+ years. I spray and backroll practically everything. The only thing not rolled is the trim. Fresh drywall is a MUST backroll situation. Also to get perfect results on new drywall I recommend: mud & tape, prepcoat, texture, THEN prime (PVA), THEN paint (preferably 2 coats). Prep coat will make your texture come out very nice without any flashing issues.
Speaks volume you’re open for feedback from other pros. That’s how we grow and learn. Keep it up!
18:15 I promise I'm going to print and frame that shot of Paul admiring the paint filter 😂🤣. Absolutely classic.
BINGE WATCHING ALL YOUR VIDEOS, GREAT WORK GUYS 👊💪, 31 years as a general contractor myself and absolutely love the way you treat your son, and other contractors, you have proven that you have so much passion for the craft and are teaching your son the correct way of doing things...EVEN if it costs you money instead of leaving it, very impressed and super pumped I found your channel, I'm from the east coast (Connecticut/Massachusetts) but would love to do a project together someday, would make for some great footage 😀 thanks brother! ALL LOVE AND RESPECT 🙏
You guys have definitely upped your game, in that you're feeling more relaxed and getting a bit silly.
"Keep the customer smiling, and he'll come back for more".
Good show. I always backroll when spray applicating. Ceilings for sure. Also most of the time we will do the ceilings first in a flat in order to tone done reflections and shadows. Walls can be whatever color chosen, but a white tone ceiling really makes room brightness pop.
Get that boy a 14 or 18in roller
I will now thx 👍
@@StudPack if they have the 14in in your area go for that it handles like a 9in you guys will love it!! Great channel btw wishing you two much success with it
Please tell me i'm not the only one who swatted my screen at 11:38.... 😂😂 love the vids as usual keep up the great work!!
To start I'd like to say I love your guy's channel. I happened upon it yesterday and I'm almost through every video and can't get enough. You guys are great. You have the same concept about perfection that I had when I has remodeling a house, tiling a bathroom or a kitchen or hanging and mudding drywall. The only affliction I had is it was never perfect in my eyes. In regards to a statement you made on the video about commenters asking about using the green board. I was taught in the military and a old time drywaller I worked with when I lived in Texas that the only time you need to use green board is in high moisture areas. Green board is standard drywall with a moisture resistant green paper. If there are any tears or defects that pernitrate the paper it will be subject to failure and at risk of moisture damage that drywall gets in high moisture areas. I typically used green board in bathrooms as added protection alongside of a good quality exhaust fan and hopefully a window. It is important if your only doing a 3/4 tile on the bathtub/shower that the 1/4 portion at the top (above possible water level) is done in green board because that is the area with the highest risk to moisture and mold. Anyways, you guys keep it up and be safe!
Hey guys, another great video I’m sure other people have mentioned this, but you should use the fine finish tips. They have less overspray and sprayed the paint way more evenly and use less paint also
I am a retired Union Painter from Chicago. On commercial jobs we only back rolled any sags when spraying. But for residential (worked in a lot of up scaled homes) it was a must, especially when using paint with any type of a sheen. As mentioned previously you lay it off in the same direction so that you don't have alternating rows of texture due to the roller nap pulling one way and then the other. And back rolling on residential jobs was used even when brush and rolling . . . roll out a section and then go back and lay it off top to bottom.
Renovating my basement with fresh drywall and a new paint sprayer - great tips on back rolling! Perhaps a tip for you - I found adding a little tint to primer for ceilings makes it visually different enough to help see where you've covered. Keep up the excellent work
It is so refreshing to see people who care about the quality of their work and continuously try to improve. It seems like everybody just does a half @$$ job these days. I literally can’t find people who try to do a good job.
Awesome. Just did the almost exact thing on a "Reno" I'm doing. This one was to rehabilitate an 80 year old home from the original owners smoking for all those 80 years. The back rolling was a huge key to get a run less job over sealer, primer. and paint over the key features of an old plaster ceiling and wall. We really wanted to keep the old textured ceiling and "Plaster Crown" features. And it was the first time I'd used an airless sprayer. Preparation is critical to doing a job with no wasted labor.
The “Josh disliking the video” and the Holy Grail Paint Filter clips had me laughing. That finish looked fantastic boys. I’d bet even a good pro painter would give you at least 4 stars....hahahaha. Great stuff as always.
Definitely back roll a finish coat over a painted surface if it’s a wall that you always see side on, like a hallway wall. Back rolling over sheetrock is to get the paint right into the substrate. Back rolling over a painted surface is to hide the dreaded lines created by the sprayer. No matter how well we spray a surface using the best fine finish tips designed to eliminate hard-edge lines, we always seem get those visible pass lines
Yet it can be done on metal or carbon for a car just fine. Almost like the process is flawed or not up to snuff with auto stuff.
Great job! Love the tip for adding the additional filter to the inlet. I always back roll when spraying drywall. Try using an 18" roller it makes back rolling easier and faster
The most important reason to backroll paint in new construction is because some asshole tradesman will eventually fuck up your new paint job and you won't need to get out the sprayer to touch it up.
Exactly
BINGO 👍
The other reason is that a sprayer is optimized for gloss finish. Notice how at 8:10 to 8:15 the gloss disappears on the wall.
When painting ceilings we always use Valspar "goes on pink dries white" ceiling paint. Easy to tell what's been painted and what's not. Excellent paint finish. Give it a try.
I can second the color change paint when rolling a ceiling.
I will Darrell thx for the tip 👍
By far the best source of information about remodeling on the internet. Good tips, hard working guys, well explained, and a lot of hard work. Awesome job guys.
Great job guys and also great camera work showing us the process. I have to agree and say that back rolling is the way to go after spraying. I have got much better results this way as well.
When cleaning you can leave the sprayer with the sprayer on put into the prime position, pull the trigger, then switch the switch to the spray position and this will eliminate the kick in the gun from the pressure when running the water threw it that trick works at any time. Also I rapped a buggy cord around the base and head of me Graco and it holds my tip box. It's like a Tupperware box.
I like how you break it all down how to examine the work that is done. Learned a couple of things to take a step back and look at the product. Love the videos you guys got a new subscriber. Keep making stuff like this.
I had used this method for exterior stucco painting for years. Especially when applying elastomeric paints. I tried it on a interior replaster job and it worked perfectly. Kudos!
👍Great father son teamwork.
Spraying and back rolling are the best of both worlds and you will get a great finish product!! Keep up the great work boys!!! Love your videos
That intro transition was perfect! 😎🤌🏼
Great video gents - always impressed how you take those small extra steps to make the job perfect.
I spray houses a lot and I liked the cleaning :) No dust !
Back rolling all semi rough surfaces is the only way i found to make sure i was able to do touch up work without it flashing great video guys
I have learn so much of what to do and what not to do on this remodel keep the videos coming.
5:40 awesome video editing! No better music than 80s for "getting it done project mode"!! Awesome work guys and Jordan!
8:54 .. nice little this old house segway 🤣😂
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Studio in New York city ya aaaa right. I caught that Do I win a XLARGE Stud Pack shirt.
I really like the spray/backroll method for walls and ceilings. The sprayer gets the product on more smoothly but the backrolling works it into the surface and evens it all out. Rolling alone can leave you with a patchwork pattern of where each roller load went. Spraying alone can leave you with uneven stripes. Applying the paint with the sprayer and then using a roller on a pole allows you to get long even strokes with no patchyness. And yes, you do need to have two people, the time span from wet to tacky is very short and there really isn't time for the person spraying to set the sprayer down and pick up the roller. Nice work
Thx 👍👍💪
I’m thinking about getting that same sprayer. I’m doing a flat coffered ceiling on this vaulted ceiling and usually I will paint all of the trim first then throw it up, fill in the pin holes then use a sponge brush to dab over the filled in holes but that might cause some unevenness. I like the x7 you’re using, so I’m going to try that when I’m ready. Seems to works pretty nice and you guys did amazing ❤️
Another way to cover your switch/outlet boxes is to stuff them with plastic grocery bags.
Cool thx 👍
Finally a crew that does exactly what we do... Everything... To the T
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we used to spray & backroll for builders that were hellbent on rolling everything, priming and painting wrought iron fences/gates. rolling primer took too long, the back rolling gave the illusion it was rolled. works great for galvanized metal industrial applications
Good video. There's so much more to painting than just prime and paint. You did a good job in explaining some of the pro tips. I really like the matting of the reflection. You can see an immediate difference between pretty good and excellent. And that finisher is a top gun as well.
Thx 👍💪
We do this all the time with Commercial Scenery that we make for different companies. You get a nice surface that is easily repaired when on a road trip, better adhesion and you can control the amount of reflection if it is going to a lit set.
I’ve never seen a video with no dislikes,great job guys
Well 2 people decided they needed them now lol
@Mark N. And now there are 4. Some people are never happy!
I precut a bunch of pieces of 1/4" ply single, doubles and triples cut exactly to the size of the electrical box to cover electrical boxes . Helps with keeping the tile/stone straight and clean.
Hey Guys,
Keep up the good work. You seem always to improve. That is working out for you. Greetings out of Germany. Even as plumber out of Europe I am enjoying your effort. That is what craftsmanship makes so fun. You guys are inspiring.
Backrolling to me is a great idea, some see it as a waste of time after you use the air-less, but as Paul says the gun can spit or you can lay an extra heavy area with paint or primer and next you know you have runs. So backrolling also serves as a 2nd pair of eyes to ensure an even coat. Great video Paul and Jordan and I loved the editing, it was nice. Have a blessed day and we will talk on the next one!!!!!!!!!!
Thx Javier 👍💪
I 've not been guilty of using "cheap" lower grade paint unless the customer made the decision. I admit I would use "mid" grade/ price paint and get reasonable results depending on brand and or methodology just as you discussed.
Back in the 1970's SEARS Weatherbeater paint was considered the best (at least in Southern lower MI.) I think Sherwin-Williams made it,and $10.00 per gallon was considered expensive!
Try getting that price anywhere today.
TIP: If paint color is secondary in decision (like painting an old shed),HABITAT for HUMANITY Restores sells recycled/recaptured paint at discounted prices. Make sure you get enough the first time though,as what they do is mix similar colors (as in ALL whites or ALL blues etc;) and same types together in large barrels then into gallon cans. You should then re-mix all your gallons into one again to gain an even tone in color.
A very good program in IMO.
Anyhow,great job,definitely looks excellent all around.
Nifty editing too.
Make sure to deflate your egos b4 next vid.😆😆 jk.
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Great Idea on the recycled paint. Did some painting with a service club. Sherwin-Williams donated all the recycled paint. Mix it all together and you get beige. Did a great job on the local senior center.
@@BubbasDad Yep. Very cool. Helping the seniors,I'm just around that corner myself.
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Cant wait to see the lights in. On a job like that I like to lay all the recessed lights out to their final location and laser the line to the floor. Drill the floor and insert a roofing nail. When you are done painting it’s as simple as reshooting the laser back to the ceiling off your nail.
You guys are the best! liked the questions at the end ( to much pressure, squeeze out, so back off! Not enough pressure, stiffen back muscles! sounds funny but really great advice!
Thx Tracy 👍
2 thumbs up!!! yes backroll , on siding not so much though....
18 inch roller would make it quicker..but good job boys
Hey, since this is an 'Entertainer Remodel' maybe painting those nibs silver to reflect light will make it look like a disco ball LOLOlol Stunning job on that paint, it looks like silk!
Thx Cathie 👍
The heavenly filter in the sunlight was perfect! 😂
I like those big round sander heads. Works great, minimal frustration
Omg I can't believe I found you here. Lol I love your videos
Y'all do good work there should be more people doing that
The quality of your videos continues to increase! Love watching them!
You guys just keep getting better and better. I am glad you guys started back rolling. Especially on new texture and patches it is the only way to go. Keep up the excellent work and here is hoping you guys reach 100,000 soon. . I keep telling I know about you guys. Good luck. 👍🏼
Much appreciated 👊
Back rolling is great, job will come out fantastic!!
OK, I got as far as when you said, "We've either sprayed or rolled... Never both".
Now I'll qualify what I'm gonna say next: I worked my ass off in the trades for 22 years, and retired as a GC when I was 53; 4 years ago.
It's ALWAYS BOTH guys.
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Great video, great teamwork as always guys! Jordan, my man gotta get an 18” roller dude! Makes it fly
Great job! Only difference, I always do the ceilings first, unless they are the same color. I find it easier to cut in, but that's me.
Don’t feel bad Josh! Just about every single electric box that I’ve opened up at has texture all over the wires. And I’ve been in this business since 1999.
I’ve been a painter for 30 years and yes it’s important to back roll, I back roll on the exteriors too that’s really important. The only exception on exteriors would be really flat siding, allot of times it doesn’t need to be back rolled, rough cedar always needs to be back rolled though
keep up the good video's & did anyone else try swat that fly at 11:40 lol because i know i did.
I sure did 😂😂
The moves are from the roller it shed during the back rolling. Not the applicators fault just a bad roller. Once painted a bathroom with a expansive roller cover and it shed all over my wall.
I laughed at the ding for getting texture on the electrical wires. I worked for a residential electrical contractor when I was in college and remember having to excavate material from boxes with a flat head screw driver on a few jobs. Not even sure what they were doing to get that much material in there.
Imo putting the ad in between the days of work as cut scenes would be great for the entire production of the video. Keep up the great work!
Awesome paint job. Your video production skills are really improving, but if you're gonna do the "I just drive up to the jobsite" shot, maybe make sure they're isn't already a car in the driveway lol. You guys are awesome.
😂 To be honest, the truck has to drive around the parked car and re-park in front of it. So it was realistic! But we get it, thanks for the support Hiker Bro👊🏼
I'm sure painting that beam is what the customer wanted. I would have preferred it not painted. Being a wood worker as well as a contractor, I love the look of the wood.
I recently tried the Graco pressure roller...fits right on the end like a tip extension...pumps the paint directly to the wall without overspray. Also, spray some WD-40 over the main unit, and the paint wont stick...easy cleanup.
Cool thx 👍👍
Hvac Tech here. I work alot of new Co struction high rises and until recently I didn't even know back rolling was optional. All the painting crews I ever saw always back rolled. I did my bath room at a level five finish and I was worried I'd ruin my paint job by refusing to ruin the finish with backrolling.
Question... When back rolling, you are starting with a loaded roller? Also, if you are painting by yourself would you try to back roll, or would that not work with the timing? I enjoy your videos and learn something from each one! I wish I could hire you!
Thx Bruce. The roller needs to have paint on it already before you start back rolling. Not "loaded" in the sense that you would load a roller to paint a wall but definitely get some paint on it.
You guys are turning into an entertainment channel and I love the scenes with your dad admiring how clean the paint tips are and the Tyveks. I wouldn’t be surprised if HollyWood reached out to you for tips lol
Thx Woody 💪👍
Do yourself a favor and invest in an 18" roller setup. Jordan will be able to keep up with the spraying better, it'll be much easier on the back and shoulders cuz it takes half the time, and you have half as many chances to leave streaks. You'll love it. Great job on the painting.
Thx Aaron 👍 yeah I’ll get one now that I know how great this works 💪
You two are having too much fun. Keep up the good work.
Yesssss! Perfect Sunday morning here
It is good that you are concerned quality - great job.
Guys sanding the primer coat in it entirely 100% is a must. The primer like on wood raise the grain and you will notice the difference it’s a deal breaker
Great job! I had a painter spray and back roll the outside of my house years ago. It Still looks good.
I guess everybody has their own method but I've never not back rolled :) Next time try the gun without the extension. You might get better control and use a spray shield with your other hand. Less masking prep. The dots come off glass during final clean and you're already there scraping that awful glue they use on new window stickers. Isopropyl loosens em up pretty good. Try not to hit the ceiling when back rolling the walls. You figured out a light touch on the rolling is the way to go. If it skids roll off the excess paint on a wall that hasn't been sprayed. Glad you like the back rolling, looks much better in my opinion. Interested in your approach to new construction baseboard, do you prefinish a layer then install?
Much appreciated 👍 I think I will spray all trim once installed then cut in and roll walls
I had to back roll the ceilings of a large 2 story house in San Francisco a couple decades ago. My neck was killing me by the end of the day
Excellent educational video....i especially appreciate the Detailed explanations.... thank you.
I agree with previous comments, I would definitely invest in an 18” roller setup to expedite backrolling. Jordan, you should wear a respirator too!
Thx Alan 👍. Mom brought Jordan’s respirator over ASAP cuz I forgot it.
Question, did Jordan ever remove paint from the roller cover as it built up? I'm sure it started out dry, but ended up quite full and may have needed some squeezed out...?
Yeah! After backrolling for a While the roller would have a build up and I’d just put it on a wall somewhere because it’s getting covered up. Never showed it, but we did have to remove paint 👊🏼
great work and good team
Hey guys yall are awsome! Great work too. You make me wanna quit my job and work with you! Keep it up
I didn't get a notification for this so I'm just watching it a day later 🤦
That's a great explanation and a great looking finish, I was going to comment on the reflection but you already covered that
Think you missed a trick on the LIKE in the TV nook though 🤣
Can't wait to see the next one 👍
Always appreciated 👍
I've seen a gallon of paint mixed with joint compound then rolled on.
Another good tip to include would be always roll with the grain of the light. Thanks
Something we always do on our ceilings we backroll first coat in the direction of the light and 2nd coat we backroll across the light. Not sure if it really matters or not but has worked for us for a while now
It's not always possible like on the vaulted ceiling y'all have in that living room it more trouble than it's worth to do it that way
You probably already got one but what about a video on cleaning your sprayer up for storage or for the next job I guess I spoke a little too soon but would like to have more in depth cleaning procedures on the guns all your tools actually cuz I know you take care of them
Might try a knit hood when painting. Fits like a sock over your head with only the eyes exposed.
Cool thx James 👍
i fill a bucket with waterm stick the suction hose in a nd lightly mist the floor and sweep ...the moisture makes th dust particles stick together so you can sweep an then not blow dust from the floot on the bottom of the walls.
Looking good!!
Next project ? I caught that MLB replay in NYC ...........nice one