No. 6207, A Study in Steel - Princess Royal Class - vintage LMS film - 1951

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  • @KhatuYogesh
    @KhatuYogesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As Design engineer, I could not believe that how these people calculate,drawn,analyse,produce and assembled thousands of parts without the aid of CAD,ERP and PLM softwares..also without internet and mobile phones.
    ....These men were real men. An era when there was a value to skill,expertise and workmanship.
    Our generation is of digital oxymoron !
    Now we can not imagine and work without the aid of internet,apps and software tools..

    • @江苏白兔
      @江苏白兔 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      我认识的一个人过去曾在中国国有企业工作,家里的柜子中存放的旧图纸,有几十公斤重,体积很大,图纸上标注的年月可追溯到上世纪八十年代甚至更早,材质好像全是用硫酸纸。
      A person I know used to work in China's state-owned enterprises. The old drawings stored in the cabinet at home are tens of kilograms in weight and large in volume. The date marked on the drawings can be traced back to the 1980s or even earlier. It seems that all the drawings are made of sulfuric acid paper.

    • @simonsadler9360
      @simonsadler9360 ปีที่แล้ว

      On my Spain , youngsters are being taught machine tool work , Bet Reece Moggs hasn't got a lathe , The British steam catapult still used on aircraft carriers!

    • @deadpresident78
      @deadpresident78 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They went to college for drafting. I did too back in the 90's.

  • @rogueart7706
    @rogueart7706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Damn that big boy swinging that sledge hammer like a fly swatter.....these men could crush you with their mustache. Much respect.

  • @io4439
    @io4439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    bloody marvelous work

  • @mgjohn8534
    @mgjohn8534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.
    Early in the commentary something made me laugh. That comment regarding the design of the locomotive's "Several Parts"... several?
    Old school commentators like this inspired folks like Harry Enfield, Paul Whitehouse and Mark Williams for some of their comedy sketches.
    I am old enough to have seen these magnificent machines in fast action on the WCML. My all time favourite being the Princess CORONATIONS... Stanier learned his skills at Swindon I believe. ... and it shows in the "Super Kings" as they were called back in the day.

    • @simonsadler9360
      @simonsadler9360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if the boilers were pressure tested full of water first , that's how compressor tanks are ?

  • @farric1
    @farric1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My grandfather was part of the crew in the boilershop during this period. Now there is almost nothing left of the works. The local council has ensured nothing remains of the once mighty workskop. Not a brick left resting on a brick. Crewe has developed supermarkets instead. It's very much a ghost town nuwadays.

    • @matsamuels9197
      @matsamuels9197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Craig's Classics what a shame. This is brilliant to watch

    • @truthful3777
      @truthful3777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well sad to say... building don't mean much without skill workers. Those skill workers have long departed.

  • @redrb26dett
    @redrb26dett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stanier and gresley famous for a couple of engines but my god engineers are damn intelligent men to design something out your head like a locomotive is amazing

  • @trainsandtrams2020
    @trainsandtrams2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a wonderful time document and I love that old British Railways "Cycling Lion" logo shown right at the beginning of the film.

  • @rainlori
    @rainlori ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A film made by the LMS in 1935 when 6207 was built at Crewe. Obviously it was reissued by British Railways if the cited date is 1951.

  • @jaimelopez-montes4418
    @jaimelopez-montes4418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantástico. Como pudo el hombre tener la fuerza para construir estos verdaderos monstruos de metal con la fuerza humana bruta. Lo mas sorprendente es que la maquinas herramientas estaban ya tan desarrolladas que las que en el día de hoy existen nos son mas que la copia de aquellas. La fundición de una manera tan primitiva y sin embargo pura y bien hecha. realmente bien por los hombres de esa época gloriosa de Inglaterra.

  • @ki11thecube
    @ki11thecube ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tragically, this very engine would later be involved in an accident due to poor assembly. According to the RailUK site;
    "On Friday, 21 September 1951 the 08:20 Liverpool Lime Street to London Euston consisting of 15 coaches hauled by a Princess class Stanier Pacific began to de-rail south of Weedon on the West Coast Main Line south of Rugby at a speed of 65 mph and finally crashed, killing 15 people and injuring 35 more. The footplate crew survived and protected their train in spite of being severely shocked. The accident enquiry, conducted by Lt Col G R S Wilson, found the track to be in good condition and the speed of the train not to be excessive. However this was the first trip out for the locomotive, No 46207 Princess Arthur of Connaught after its bogie wheelsets had been swapped round. The enquiry concluded that the derailment was caused by an excessively tight bogie axlebox. The approximate location of the collision was 52°13'32"N 1°04'20"W, less than a mile south-east of the 1915 derailment and close to the signal-box at Heyford south of Stowe Hill tunnel where the occupants were able to see the accident. "

    • @Graid
      @Graid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do note, for anyone feeling bad at the thought that the fellows in the above film who seem to be doing such a meticulous and skilled and impressive job were making a train that would immediately crash on its first trip out because of a mistake, that this film of the creation of 6207 was filmed in 1935 and not 1951. It was a later crew 14 years later that made the mistake.

  • @haroldpearson6025
    @haroldpearson6025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The boiler fittings such as firebox stays, water gauge are not made of brass! They are made of bronze. Brass decomposes with prolonged exposure to high temperature water and steam.

  • @BM-jy6cb
    @BM-jy6cb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The workers in the heavy forge were the health & safety zealots of the company with their white hanky caps! - On a more serious note, it's so sad that we have, and continue to lose heavy engineering in this country - once those skills are gone, it's very difficult to get them back.

  • @Anthonyinkz
    @Anthonyinkz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Days when men wre men, unlike weird wimps walking about now bothered about their looks on social media.

  • @johnmcdyer7297
    @johnmcdyer7297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Over 90 years of experience have gone into this engine,,,,,whatever happened to us

    • @21ratrod
      @21ratrod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Politicians made a DEAL !

  • @Niko69420
    @Niko69420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:31 aren’t those the levers that are now on display near the entrance to the train station (near the horseshoe bridge and underground car parks?)

    • @BennettBrookRailway
      @BennettBrookRailway  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They look similar, but this movie was filmed and produced in the UK. The levers cemented into the eastern concourse at Perth station are from the old 'Box C' signalbox that used to stand near what is now 4 platform and the Barrack Street overbridge in Perth.
      www.sigwa.info/perth-box-c--2-.html

    • @Niko69420
      @Niko69420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the reply, I will check it out :)

  • @simonsadler9360
    @simonsadler9360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Locos taken to France to help in WW2 , always the sffort to build & maintain them kept Britain running, very low unemployment , mainly deliveries rapid , homing pigeons a treat , & they were cheap to use . Couldn't believe a single now from Birmingham to London £80 ! Can go by bus from Valencia to Romania for that , a 2 day journey 2,400 km , just had it confirmed that your living in the lap of Luxury gov have banned woodstoves , now as well as having TV licence police ( free in Spain ) you now have the woodstove police .It is unbelievable , pensioners hoarding candles , so sad , this Xmas all of to the Carribean or shooting in Scotland , whats that strange machine over there Sir Edward , well I'm not sure Jacob , it may be a secret weapon , fumigating people , quick it's making strange noises , start the Rolls & leave quickly, can't now the driver is in the wine shop buying crates of Guinees , grandad can't live without it , hope we have bullet proof glass !

  • @nigelmitchell351
    @nigelmitchell351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1931 surely.?

  • @PapaTanGh0stNI9htM4R3S0nMaInSt
    @PapaTanGh0stNI9htM4R3S0nMaInSt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From rails to anti grav its all just progress.

  • @niggarachi1171
    @niggarachi1171 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe we are watching Henry’s overhaul…. It is a Stanier black 5 isn’t is?!?!

  • @jimstrainsandstuff9539
    @jimstrainsandstuff9539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I love the human counterweights in the boiler shop!

  • @Peter-nv3wu
    @Peter-nv3wu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The days when "Made In Britain" meant something to people the world over and those who made the products were proud of their work, and proud to have built them !

  • @zippy5131
    @zippy5131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    As an engineer, ahem.... road transport but also working on aviation both civil and military ( Ex RAF ) and ........... yes I know worked on Coradia's for Alstom that's class 175's... this absolutely brings tears to my eye's the skills and the machinery we had in this country the engineering. All gone. This is a tribute to all those who made these fantastic locomotives. May this live on. My hat is off or is it doffed. I salute all those who made it happen.

    • @patricknoveski6409
      @patricknoveski6409 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can't believe these guys making all these parts from scratch.
      Just incredible.
      And all these guys went home with good pay , and a job they were proud of. And then?
      Bean counters stike again. 😢

  • @johndonaldson3619
    @johndonaldson3619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    1935 = A job for life
    2020 = Zero hour contracts

    • @davidgray2653
      @davidgray2653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well said spot on no longer jobs for life just cheap agencies

    • @redrb26dett
      @redrb26dett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s what you me and our parents wanted and caused wanting a better life for our children seeing our work as deeming and yes I said me also I did not want my children to sweep up their best friends and put them in a body bag my father did not want me working in a coal mine due to it killing him slowly with it’s related diseases and yes it was a job for life but for some that life was short and before people become high and mighty how many want there children sweeping roads , collecting garbage or bus driver or a waiter all important jobs as opposed to the jobs you want them to have doctors and lawyers or CEO’s in big business

  • @martinpattison1567
    @martinpattison1567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This was made when Britain was Great, we made everything, Iron and Steel, Machines, Locomotives, Ships,Aeroplanes and cars you name it we built it. Now everything is made in other countries or by companies in Britain, but foreign owned. We started the Industrial Revolution and then kissed it goodbye.. we could argue who did what and why, but it doesn't matter it will never come back. Martin. (Thailand)

    • @rogerevans936
      @rogerevans936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same here in Australia mate

    • @djangorheinhardt
      @djangorheinhardt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Because we,in Britain,decided that Germany was too powerful a state to leave unhindered in Europe pre WW2 so the idiots running this country gave a guarantee to Poland to intercede if Hitler tried to get his lands back stolen under the Treaty of Versailles. Chamberlain tried to avert war as he knew another war would finish us but on his deathbed he stated America and the war mongers here ,like Churchill pushed him into it.Roosevelt greedily looked at the UK and said to Morgenthau,his financial assistant, " There's plenty money there.We have got the English cow and we're going to milk it til it's dry," which they did.We finished WW2 bankrupt and America finished up 10 times stronger and richer than before it,mostly on our money.America began to pour money into Europe to build a bulwark against Communism and Stalin but in 1949 this "Marshall aid " was withdrawn from us as they, America, said we were trying to resurrect our industrial base and they they forbid that as they wanted to have a financial hegemony over the Western world .Hence we were the only country in Europe forced to institute rationing in the early 1950's ,for several years.The end product of us sticking our snout into some skirmish that did not concern us, was that we got it bitten off.We have very little heavy industry now like ship building as the Yanks took that over.When will we learn to keep out of these self destructive ,costly wars ,like Iraq,and Afghanistan. That is costing us money,for what?Although Chamberlain has been vilified ,post WW2 ,to my way of thinking he saw the future clearly,and has been proved right.

    • @alexaga3247
      @alexaga3247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djangorheinhardt You are right. Britain and France declared war on NAZIonal Germany after NAZIonal Germany invaded Poland and Britain and France started WW2 in Europe. As result Europe was destroyed. Please note : Britain and France did not declare war on Red InterNAZIonal USSR after Red InterNAZIonal USSR invaded Poland. And again Europe was destroyed. NAZIonal Germany managed to save half of Europe from Reds. Reds acted according to Red World Communistic Revolution, main stages of this revolution are :
      USSR
      USSRW - USSR of World
      UCRW - Union of Communistic Republics of World
      CR - Communistic Republic
      Main danger for Europe was Red InterNAZIonal USSR but not NAZIonal Germany but Britain and France decided that NAZIonal Germany is main danger is this is super stupidism And now all Europe is dead due to simple (not from Scientific Communism-InterNAZIonalism) InterNAZIsm.

    • @maxrockatansky6416
      @maxrockatansky6416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djangorheinhardt Yes! Leave this f*cking Poland and Central Europe to be divided between Russia and Germany. And destroy'em totally! We don't want to die for Gdańsk Danzig or Crimea and send this message to Moscow! Bravo! You just finished genocide of Central Europe!

    • @elrjames7799
      @elrjames7799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We? What did you 'make' in 1951 or any time else in Britain, Martin?

  • @steves5172
    @steves5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The people in this film had “a job for life “ their hand and eye coordination was a real skill. No computers then, or millimetres!
    Thanks for uploading!

  • @take942
    @take942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Most amazing footage, loved watching!! Thanks for sharing it!
    I have real respect for those men back then who worked in the foundries and assembly shops, true craftsmen indeed.

  • @rubendaniel8248
    @rubendaniel8248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Great British Railways, one of the classic video, thank you very much for the best video. Love from India,

  • @simonmountford4291
    @simonmountford4291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When men had skills and purpose, these days delivering crap for Amazon…🚚☹️

  • @geraldhannibal7654
    @geraldhannibal7654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I'm so saddened by what's happened to our heavy industries but full of pride in how our nation and workers at every level changed the world for good. Thank you so much for posting this. Best wishes. G

    • @brendanengland8385
      @brendanengland8385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can make in China for 5pence nowadays

  • @bernardsaucier2062
    @bernardsaucier2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Movies such as this should be viewed by our younger generation!! This is how progress is made to unite our world.
    Thank you for posting this!!

  • @eoj2495
    @eoj2495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very nice film. A lot of British pride went into building these locomotives.

    • @richmanwisco
      @richmanwisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And a lot of blood.

  • @deepthought3316
    @deepthought3316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Knew a railway engineer some years ago and he had kept a set of special oversize rulers so they could compensate for the size of the wooden mould and the contraction the the steel or bronze to achieve the correct size...amazing...

  • @xr6lad
    @xr6lad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Surely can't be LMS if it's 1951? People haven't forgotten that the LMS ceased to exist in 1947/8.

    • @zorrodp
      @zorrodp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As is clear on the opening credits, it was the London Midland Region (of the Railways Executive (BR) of the British Transport Commission) at the time (1951)

    • @1maico1
      @1maico1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zorrodp The documentary was shot 1932- 1935 and rereleased

  • @simonmountford4291
    @simonmountford4291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No components imported, every nut 🔩 and bolt made on site.

  • @logotrikes
    @logotrikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    During my apprenticeship in the 60's I've watched blacksmiths strikers like the dude with the handlebar moustache. Tough work done by tough geezers...

    • @simonmountford4291
      @simonmountford4291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that huge guy could swing a sledgehammer like a toothpick 💪🔨

  • @davidpartridge2675
    @davidpartridge2675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fantastic real men doing real work no computershere only the human brain no h/safety pc nonsense here a real generation of expertise lost thank you for showing how it used to be in the real world of my youth pity the kids of today will never experience this the world would be a safer and better place than it is today methinks regards David a retired engineer

    • @江苏白兔
      @江苏白兔 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      看评论区,似乎西方发达国家的“丢失工业化”情况真的很严重,大量的中低端制造业外移中国。
      Looking at the comment area, it seems that the situation of "lost industrialization" in western developed countries is really serious, and a large number of middle and low-end manufacturing industries have been transferred to China.

    • @Neontrifle
      @Neontrifle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@江苏白兔 True, it's because the Chinese will do things so much cheaper but, I'm led to believe, with little regards to working conditions.

    • @江苏白兔
      @江苏白兔 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Neontrifle 是,现在是国际产业链全球化的时代,资本总是寻找着在满足规定标准下,成本最低的地方。中国一直被誉为世界工厂。近些年中国工厂的工作条件与工人工资也在明显提高。近些年中国有许多人担心,越南与孟加拉国等工人成本更低的国家,与中国竞争低端产业,但中国也有着许多竞争优势,例如中国工业门类齐全,中国工人纪律性高等等,目前东南亚还难以取代中国制造。许多中国人判断,产业升级对中国工业发展很重要。
      Yes, now is the era of globalization of international industrial chain. Capital always looks for the place with the lowest cost under meeting the specified standards. China has always been known as the factory of the world. In recent years, the working conditions and wages of Chinese factories have also increased significantly. In recent years, many people in China worry that countries with lower labor costs such as Vietnam and Bangladesh compete with China for low-end industries, but China also has many competitive advantages, such as complete categories of Chinese industries and high discipline of Chinese workers. At present, Southeast Asia is still difficult to replace made in China. Many Chinese judge that industrial upgrading is very important to China's industrial development.

    • @richmanwisco
      @richmanwisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You ever think what the lifespan of a foundryman was in those days? How many died, or lost limbs or eyesight all in the service of capitalists? You think it was that glamorous?

  • @roberthuron9160
    @roberthuron9160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In the US,there were similar works,and thankfully,some of their products are still running! Remember Alco(Schenectady),Lima(Ohio),and Baldwin(Philadelphia),for they also exported engines to Britain,and if you look closely,in some museums,you can find builders plates,on any number of engines! Also some railroads over here,built their own,notably the PRR(Altoona),N&W,(Roanoke),and they also were building steam engines right into the 50's,and thankfully again,now some are still in operation! As an aside,one railroad,was never totally dieselized,and that was/is the Union Pacific,because they were still running 844(8444), an FEF Class 4-8-4,since joined by a Challenger(4-6-6-4), and a Big Boy(4-8-8-4), so steam also is not dead on the UP! Add a comment,the building of a brand new Ivatt 4-6-2(Tornado),is a feather in the British cap,👏 bravo! You cannot keep a group of railfans down,no matter where!! Thank you for your attention! 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

  • @v8pilot
    @v8pilot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah - French curves (1:16). Still got mine a a drawer somewhere. Along with my Blundells slide rule.

  • @tgvenkatnarayanan8287
    @tgvenkatnarayanan8287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply superb! British workmanship was really excellent and rightly Britain produced from pin to locomotives till WWII. Your products had a class. That apart, Britain was unfortunately compelled to yield its position to U.S. America joined the war at a very fag end after Britain had exhausted all resources. This was a ploy. But here you made Indians as cannon fodder in the war. Your selfishness to rule over the world was your greatest blunder. You lorded over India and reaped immense wealth from here and that is how you could wage a war and lead a luxurious life. You prompted Poland to fight against Germans and when India became a hot potato in early 1946, you hurriedly abandoned her and cut my country into two. Your Churchill, never wanted India to gain freedom as that so-called statesman knew that Yankees will run over you. He also knew that if India becomes independent, you will not be able to run your country as there was no resource as war ruined you. So, he wanted to retain hold on India. He lamented at Attlee when independence was declared.The political scenario changed all because of your arrogance when you sang, "Rule Britannia, ........" ! The clock has gone 360 degrees. Today your Prime Munister has an Indjan origin. All said and done, 18th and 19th centuries belonged to Britain and the great rapid strides Britain made is indeed praiseworthy. India produced food and other raw materials and you exported to your country and gave us the fruits of Industrial Revolution.

  • @subhranshuganguly2246
    @subhranshuganguly2246 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Made In Britain" engines at least many of them lasted till 1995 in India. And the one of the Darjeeling and Nilgiri railways the 100 year old steam engines still remain in service.

  • @williamkennedy5492
    @williamkennedy5492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Same year i was born, and i have a triang princess royal from that period ( 1954) its still going strong. how things have changed in the UK and i fear not for the best !

    • @NigelHill-l6h
      @NigelHill-l6h 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My Princess Elizabeth (1957) still pulls five Mark I carriages with the Royal Mail

  • @SBCBears
    @SBCBears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Safety glasses? Gloves?
    I grew up in an industrial city in the US at the time this film was made. Foundries, heavy and light manufacturing, machine shops, huge chimneys, massive works covering hundreds of acres. Now just empty fields, dangerous streets and new low-income migrant housing. The city has fewer inhabitants than 70 years ago and no industry.

    • @1maico1
      @1maico1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The documentary was made in 1935 you must be in our 90s to remember those days

    • @every1665
      @every1665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're probably far more likely to suffer serious injury from being mugged today in those streets than a worker was from being injured due to lack of safety equipment back then.

  • @hemachandramanamperi5450
    @hemachandramanamperi5450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Year 1951 I was 2y old.Fantastic and nostalgic! Love these ALL MECHANICAL engines.Thanks for video.Greetings from Srilanka

    • @musicgarryj
      @musicgarryj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's NOT 1951. The year is actually 1935: when 6207 was built. The LMS was nationalised and became British Railways in 1948,

    • @organicfarm5524
      @organicfarm5524 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now we have electricity driving almost all of our rail engines, either as diesel-electric or OHE electric.

  • @TheYabasta
    @TheYabasta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    actually incredible

  • @guyrowbottom9569
    @guyrowbottom9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you think of the of the various skills involved! May be we've gone backwards in personal skills?

  • @trainmanbob
    @trainmanbob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Hugely important to keep these films live, for in 50 years time, the kids will believe everything is made in the Far East.

    • @johnpro2847
      @johnpro2847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it is ....

    • @江苏白兔
      @江苏白兔 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      看评论区,似乎西方发达国家的“丢失工业化”情况真的很严重,大量的中低端制造业外移中国。目前我们的祖国,中国是世界上最大的工业制造国。
      Looking at the comment area, it seems that the situation of "lost industrialization" in western developed countries is really serious, and a large number of middle and low-end manufacturing industries have been transferred to China. At present, our motherland, China is the largest industrial manufacturing country in the world.

  • @every1665
    @every1665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's these skills and industries that led to the technology and lifestyle we have now. You need a culture of invention and building things. Politicians never seem to get that.

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of my favourite films. Thanks for sharing this!

  • @GeDoBa
    @GeDoBa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not a minimum of noise protection ruined the ears of the blacksmith workers in the boiler shop in a short time 14:00 ff. The asbestos in the isolation of the boiler 18:25 caused cancer in the breath system of the men later on, nobody knows the danger. The same problem accures in the brake shoes factories.

  • @GeDoBa
    @GeDoBa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    20:35 the production of the four cylinder wheels with double crankshaft inside was a real high end technique these days. 26:15 the windows design in the wheels shop are like windows in a cathedral.

  • @patmcdermott4832
    @patmcdermott4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great steam locomotive from Crewe Railway Works.

  • @WilliamCannings
    @WilliamCannings 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Grandfather worked in the Brass Foundry at Crewe Works from the 1930's to 1978. What skilled workers and shame on Crewe Council for destroying 150+ years of history. At least Bentley Motor Cars - formally Rolls Royce, is still in Crewe.

  • @marcdelente2456
    @marcdelente2456 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Des chefs d oeuvres sur les rails merci pour ces merveilles. Et 1000 merci pour ces précieux documents.

  • @johncarold
    @johncarold 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could watch this over and over. I have been enjoying your films and wishing there could be more. Thanks for the video.

  • @chriswhitelaw3126
    @chriswhitelaw3126 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But not any more. Envious eyes regarded Crewe works, and Wolverton, and the associated coal and iron mining, and realised there was profit to be made by selling them off. The true reward for hard work and skill in this country was the dole queue.

  • @167curly
    @167curly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing to see the metal-cutting for frames etc does not require the workers to wear protective eye and other safety equipment. Similarly with pouring molten metal too. But what a thing of mechanical beauty they have created!

  • @joshwilliams0391
    @joshwilliams0391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How the hell can sand be used to make a perfect wheel? I can't even build a sandcastle successfully.

  • @simonsadler9360
    @simonsadler9360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brilliance of britain , now hard pushed to find a british made clothes iron .!

  • @Kidderman2210
    @Kidderman2210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No PPE anywhere. I wonder how many of those foundrymen had silicosis or lung problems later in life? My dad worked in a machine shop - never wore safety glasses and was always being taken to the local eye hospital to have splinters pulled out. Good old days? No thanks

    • @richmanwisco
      @richmanwisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the companies would have let that go on; they didn't care much for their workers. Not enough to spend a few quid to keep them safe. Oh, those were the days.

    • @ericwalton4610
      @ericwalton4610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But a lot of those workers wouldn't wear their PPE even when it was given to them.

    • @Kidderman2210
      @Kidderman2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ericwalton4610 Probably true. I used to work in the chemical industry and part of my job was issuing PPE. many of the older workers refused to wear safety specs, gloves or helmets. Not sure why. I evn saw one man in welding without using a visor, and this was the 1980s

    • @ericwalton4610
      @ericwalton4610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For an isolated Safety Officer, a Railway Engineering Works truly was "hell on earth". Hazards? They had them all, and even the line foremen were, some at least, contemptuous of health and safety. I'd like to believe things are better today.

  • @henrybn14ar
    @henrybn14ar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How much easier would it be to build this locomotive today, with plasma jet cutters, NC tools, 3D printing.and welding for boilers, and no asbestos.

    • @gerrard1144
      @gerrard1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hows the 3d printing work, like you put a piece of steel into it and make connecting rods. i don't understand

    • @herborty8658
      @herborty8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, no 3D printing but have you heard of new built A1 class "Tornado"? Lots of videos here.

  • @beenjammin1984
    @beenjammin1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @9:10 The big guy swinging the hammer in the smithy has a great mustache!!😂

  • @brianparkhurst1019
    @brianparkhurst1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I love these old films. When men were men. People who built this world with their hands. My have we fallen.

  • @petergrossett6763
    @petergrossett6763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bring back these skills!

  • @mdlanor5414
    @mdlanor5414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Craftsmanship at its finest

  • @tirorac
    @tirorac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Siento admiración por estos muchachos trabajadores del acero y ver como fabrican esta maravillosa locomotora.

    • @simonsadler9360
      @simonsadler9360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to see huge donations to build more steam locos . The inventions of Britain , the first computer Bletchley Park the first TV, steam catapults on air craft carriers . During WW1 the captain of a steam aircraft carrier just headed into the wind , stall speed of tigemoths very low , reload with bricks or bombs same again headed into the wind , Ve haf just seen a funny boat with a smokey funnel , oh he's given us a fog signal !

    • @simonsadler9360
      @simonsadler9360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hard work & skill . Now available all design drawings , my nearby line Gandia to alcoy all gone had powerful cranes to deliver Beyer Peacock. Locos & rail , by blasting & chisel well paid Spanish workers made a 3 km tunnel , with permission at Llorxa can drive a çar through . One loco static display on the free car park in Alcoy , another at Gandia , all named after passed through villages must have been my Gaianes , early film , check "El tren de Las Inglesas " some of the viaduct towers still seen at Muro de Alcoy , 3 ft 8 gauge.

  • @brmh1667
    @brmh1667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah yes, that's how you speak English proper like! Brilliant film of one of my favourite classes. I liked ( BR)46205 best, I had a Tri-ang one in black, Princess Victoria. I loved that engine, even though it didn't have valve gear, "s" bend outer steam pipe or the oval buffers.

  • @alanmusson8710
    @alanmusson8710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much skill, gone forever!

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Working in the foundry ? Don't forget your tie!

  • @sarto7bellys
    @sarto7bellys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I reckon, sadly, these skills have been lost

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro2847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:34 The Brits famous for pomp and ceremony even have the foreman dressed in dark business suit with bowler hat ...no money left for safety glasses. ...

    • @acehandler1530
      @acehandler1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And no gloves to be seen either!

  • @marcellolunnardibsantos2734
    @marcellolunnardibsantos2734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sad so see all this skills and hard work gone... nowadays everything is done by robots somewhere in China...

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bought a tear to my eyes.

  • @christopherwhitelaw1197
    @christopherwhitelaw1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And today, we don’t have the capacity for heavy engineering like this and Crewe and Wolverton engine works lie abandoned.

    • @江苏白兔
      @江苏白兔 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      看评论区,似乎西方发达国家的“丢失工业化”情况真的很严重,大量的中低端制造业外移中国。目前我们的祖国,中国是世界上最大的工业制造国。
      Looking at the comment area, it seems that the situation of "lost industrialization" in western developed countries is really serious, and a large number of middle and low-end manufacturing industries have been transferred to China. At present, our motherland, China is the largest industrial manufacturing country in the world.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No matter how advanced the steam engine could be developed it could never effectively compete with diesel and electric locomotives. And that is still true and likely will always be so.

  • @GRAHAM1514
    @GRAHAM1514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for sharing Excellent Film

  • @weavethehawk
    @weavethehawk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Classic, beautiful old machines. Britain showed the world how to build, maintain and run sophisticated machinery.

  • @MrMoggyman
    @MrMoggyman ปีที่แล้ว

    Princess Royal Class locomotives......my uncle Percy was a fireman on the LNWR, and then a fireman/driver/top link driver on the LMS, and then BR up to his retirement around 1965. When asked what was his most hated locomotive on the LMS, his response instantly was Princess Royal Class locomotives. Why? So poor at raising steam, even when correctly fired, presenting problems for both the fireman and driver. If he saw this video he would say don't bother with the effort and materials building this.......better to build a Princess Coronation Class........or a Black 5 locomotive. They both steam better, are less trouble to operate, and do the intended job better than this.

  • @DarrenPhillips001
    @DarrenPhillips001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A whole expertise lost.

  • @simonsadler9360
    @simonsadler9360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was young in Essex steam was king ,even when 7 used the steam line from Tollesbury to Kelvedon sitting with mum & dad on the balcony carriage, Apparently just after I was born King George visited still there the hexagonal tower A .A guns & homing radio forr bombers & fighters , don't know if still there , rotating steel gun shelters . the pier was a point to sail or steam from , cut down in case Germany invaded .no attempt to rebuild aged 8 eent on the CornishRivieraExpress wonderful King class .very comfortable & food & drink cheap . We were visiting uncle David a flight artificer at Culdrose , he later flew as flight engineer on the first Jumbo. Oh those lovely locos. The days when Sheffield was full of forges on a visit we saw the huge steam rolling mill on compressed air red-hot steel rolled to rail tracks , in Spain the palm tree scrapers still prefer a Spear & Jackson spade , Special Sheffield steel for ploughshares !.

  • @mikeharland3358
    @mikeharland3358 ปีที่แล้ว

    And where are the videos of today’s heaving engineering in the uk. There aren’t any. They are all German or France or Italian or other EU countries. The modern Tories don’t care about any industry which involves risk for them. They have sold off our car manufacturing to foreign companies. The Tories only want profit without risk. So you pay them for your banking, insurance, mortgages, financial services, fuel, energy, food and soon to be health care. All the things you hav3 no choice and have to buy. And they happily screw you for them.

  • @mgjohn8534
    @mgjohn8534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We made everything" ... wrote Martin Pattison. . Something lost on all those clever types we entrust the longer term well being of this Nation too. Most of whom have clearly demonstrated in recent decades that they really have not got a clue where the importance of "in house" indigenous manufacturing is concerned. Allowing much of it to die or become extinct. They're simply not fit for purpose.
    One of the few positives to emerge from the CV-19 scenario IS the importance of "In House" indigenous manufacturing. Cue our "We're ever so clever" Media and Westminster classes running around like headless "something must be done" proverbials when no PPE was available. We have relied far too much on importing stuff we used to make. It's all very well forming long queues to pay over the odds for BMWs and other imported stuff but, that "choice" process has massive long term harmful downsides. A negative bi-product of buying BMWs and other foreign built stuff enhances UK export figures.. Exports of worthwhile UK jobs and careers. Something clearly lost of those cushioned against reality, jobs for life Westminster and UK Meejah classes.
    When last in the queue the UK were able to import the required large quantities of PPE during the CV-19 crisis...and other essential medical equipment.. guess what. It was found to be like those we entrust .. Not fit for purpose. Some well known names of the few remaining UK manufacturers were able to step in and help tooling up to produce essential medical equipment.
    Since June 2016, I have seen signs of an increasing awareness of the importance of "In House" manufacturing and other produce. Witness the sudden appearance of the Union Flag on a massively widespread range of produce on UK Supermarket shelves. I recently purchased a key component for one of my cars ..( Car made in Longbridge by the way ) There was a large and proud notice on the box alongside the Union flag. It showed "Designed and Manufactured in the UK".
    There was an awakening of "the people" and their votes within the UK back in June 2016. The people "get it" and there is evidence since December last year that some of those cushioned against reality Westminster Class also are guilty of "Getting it". Good for them. No sign of any getting it in the UK media ... slow to learn in their cushioned against reality media bubble .. Here I do see the once highly regarded BBC in the spearhead of not getting it. Their and much of the rest of the UK's Fake News slants sadly appear very determined .. not to get it.. The media and some of the Westminster types need to wake up and get it. Just like most of the rest of us had to do and showed that four years ago. Trouble is, it aint broke for most of the Westminster and Media Class so no need to fix anything. It is broke for most of the rest of us and we want it fixed!
    So there..

    • @江苏白兔
      @江苏白兔 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      看评论区,似乎西方发达国家的“丢失工业化”情况真的很严重,大量的中低端制造业外移中国。目前我们的祖国,中国是世界上最大的工业制造国。
      Looking at the comment area, it seems that the situation of "lost industrialization" in western developed countries is really serious, and a large number of middle and low-end manufacturing industries have been transferred to China. At present, our motherland, China is the largest industrial manufacturing country in the world.

  • @xr6lad
    @xr6lad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6207, Good Luck and Good Running - except for those crashes your going to have in the future!

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in america , after 1930 , we did it all with cast steel at the builders , at baldwin , alco and lima. all-in-one cast steel frame and cylinders. it all disappeared after 1950.

  • @dwightmagnuson4298
    @dwightmagnuson4298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No one even wore gloves!

  • @crimsonlightbinder
    @crimsonlightbinder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutely no protective gear, no helmets, no steel top boots, no gloves, no googles...

  • @robin1987100
    @robin1987100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:40 thats a really cool machining process. I'd guess its a type of shaper but i haven't seen them before. Do they have a specific name?

  • @SMichaelDeHart
    @SMichaelDeHart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LMS 6207 had a tough life being involved in a couple fatal crashes.

  • @acehandler1530
    @acehandler1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!" watched this while eating my chicken dinner - great show, really enjoyed it! 6000+ engines - all scrapped & long gone long ago, very sad really. Thanks 💖 🇨🇦

  • @DMBall
    @DMBall 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No eye protection, hearing protection, head protection. Just a cloth cap, a big help.

  • @samuelluiz4200
    @samuelluiz4200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Muito bom eu gosto de locomotivas.

  • @admiralcraddock464
    @admiralcraddock464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And in thirty one years time she was cut up and probably made into a Ford Anglia.

  • @mervingoose1151
    @mervingoose1151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    makes me want to weep , all gone forever ,built by english men , even thats going for christs sake !!!

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is indeed amazing that the British were still building steam locomotives when the year before, across the pond, the last one was built and diesels were seen as so much cheaper to operate and more efficient in virtually every way. It's almost absurd...and embarrassing.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can see why stream died. Romantic as it may be you just can’t have thousands upon thousands of people building and maintaining and even having to clean out the boiler every 15 days. The cost was eye watering.

    • @eoj2495
      @eoj2495 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think this film from 1935 actually…

  • @brendanengland8385
    @brendanengland8385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lots of ladies there 😮..more equality be good..

  • @Cleveland.Ironman
    @Cleveland.Ironman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnificent!

  • @historystuff3005
    @historystuff3005 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one time I need captions, they don’t even work.

  • @buirep
    @buirep ปีที่แล้ว

    Когда уже покажите как жаровые трубы монтировали в котле?!

  • @TheDAT9
    @TheDAT9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was MENS work. No girls blouses in the boiler shop. These films should compulsory viewing in schools.

  • @johnwilson617
    @johnwilson617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad worked at the Bellefontaine Ohio roundhouse for years cleaning those giant locomotives. Perhaps the first video on cleaning those engines is what he did.

  • @Marcy53Volkswagen
    @Marcy53Volkswagen ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like the song in the introduction.