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  • @tomstroup8338
    @tomstroup8338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The Man , The Myth , The Legend !!

  • @chrism4008
    @chrism4008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I really love that Jerry works on his own guns

  • @Omnihil777
    @Omnihil777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    We came full circle: They made polymer-guns to make them cheaper, lighter etc, the polymer-gun evolved and now they make them in metal again - because cool. I really love the looks, S&W got a hit there IMO.

    • @remnard1
      @remnard1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aluminum is just hard plastic. Jk. I hope it’s at least 6065 anodized.

    • @OPatron24
      @OPatron24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah looks nice and metal is better for reliability and could possible help with recoil

  • @DavidScott-xv1sc
    @DavidScott-xv1sc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Such a great shooter. And gotta be the best pistol review I've ever viewed. Thank you Jerry.

  • @JEstevez3511
    @JEstevez3511 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always amazed at wall behind Jerry with all of the bullets and ammo boxes behind him from all the years of shooting. Would be cool to see a video of some of the more unique or rare items back there.

  • @gcastelo
    @gcastelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This scenery is wonderful! A legend of simplicity!
    Congrats from Brazil! 👍🎯

  • @johnsolas81
    @johnsolas81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Never gets old, I’ve read his shooting style since the 90s and now early late 2000 thru TH-cam

  • @robertloomis6133
    @robertloomis6133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sir! You shoot for them they should give you anything you ask for ! Besides that you are one of the greats in the firearms industry! Thank you for all you do to make the industry great. 👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @1312020m
    @1312020m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love Jerry, watching his videos feels like hanging out with a cool grandpa who also happens to be a world class shooter.

  • @MT_320
    @MT_320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My son and I have the honored to meet Jerry two times in one year, he shook my hands both times, what a great role model. And were just hillbillies in Montana

  • @user-pr3ho5pz4m
    @user-pr3ho5pz4m ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jerry is one of a few that I enjoy watching. Very honest with his assessment of firearms.

  • @RuggedHeretic
    @RuggedHeretic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Purchased mine 11 days ago. I'm 450 rounds in and love this thing.

  • @j.robertsergertson4513
    @j.robertsergertson4513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Woohoo ! A modern METAL ,striker fired pistol .I can't wait to get one

  • @joshuabaker5712
    @joshuabaker5712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was super proud of myself with a 2.06 at the bill drill.sode match last year at CO nats. Mr. Jerry pops a 2.18 and says its a slow controlled 6 shots. Got to love this guy.
    Also i just picked up my first S&W and it is the metal 4.25. This thing is awesome. Feels very close to a 1911, amd trigger is really good for a stryker fired gun.

  • @williamhoppe4500
    @williamhoppe4500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    It's funny that the reviewers that have been bad mouthing Smith and Wesson are not in the official reviewers loop. They are butt hurt as Smith didn't send them a gun to review. They typically praise guns made in Turkey because they are cheap. My Shield Plus and Equalizer are awesome American made guns that function flawlessly. I also applaud Smith and Wesson's CEO for standing up to the liberal gun banners in congress. I'll probably never purchase a race gun but enjoy Jerry and Smith and Wesson.

    • @HammondArmory
      @HammondArmory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe the ones in "the official loop" are there because they are shills?? It's hard to believe most of the reviews because of bias either way...

    • @chriscarnes87
      @chriscarnes87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The only problem with S&W is they won’t sell you parts directly, you have to send their guns in.

    • @williamhoppe4500
      @williamhoppe4500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@HammondArmory All I'm saying is that my Smith and Wesson products, as well as those of my friends, work great, look good, are reliable and American made which is a big deal to me. Whether shills or butt hurt wannabe schills, the proof is the performance and whether the buyer is satisfied. Of course my opinion and yours are just that, opinions.

    • @williamhoppe4500
      @williamhoppe4500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chriscarnes87 like Jerry said, there's a lawyer behind every blade of grass. You know what you're doing but maybe Bubba and Cletus would put the parts in wrong and blow their pointy little heads off.

    • @ruststar
      @ruststar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Because SW sponsored shooters reviewing SW are gonna be 100% objective about the company product that pays them for a living.

  • @LS1007
    @LS1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like a winner. Thanks Jerry. Have a great day! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @danandha
    @danandha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so glad to see your review. I just bought that same pistol last Saturday and I haven’t been able to fire it yet now I’m glad I did buy it. Thank you for your review.

    • @jeffreylazu6692
      @jeffreylazu6692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Purchased it today just need wait a week for background here in jersey 😅 . Have you gotten around to shooting yours yet?

  • @jefferyhoward1150
    @jefferyhoward1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s hard to watch JM shoot slow.
    Looks like a really nice firearm.

    • @sirfrydryk360
      @sirfrydryk360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true! So use to him saying" this will only take a second "

  • @shirolee
    @shirolee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES!!! I've been asking and waiting for a metal framed M&P and especially a competition version after the first metal frame came out.

  • @DavidJSamko
    @DavidJSamko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven’t gotten to shoot the metal yet, but I did handle it at the store and the the trigger was like butter. Would love to try it at the range.

  • @Angel-ly6bp
    @Angel-ly6bp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been waiting for this video. Thanks Jerry

  • @bradneu4928
    @bradneu4928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just bought that same gun , love it , having trouble with that red dot still may just open sight that gun , but glad to see you like it , thanks again

  • @RobnPhx1
    @RobnPhx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous pistol! I like that you can disassemble it without pulling the trigger. S&W semi-auto's have come a long way over the years. Now, if I could only afford one!

  • @joeplugge9840
    @joeplugge9840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jerry is so fun to watch. He exudes confidence and experience. Never seems condescending.

  • @JohnHilman1968
    @JohnHilman1968 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one chambered in .40 S&W and I LOVE it. I added Odin Works mag extensions so I can do 17 rds. It's a beautiful thing

  • @footballa57
    @footballa57 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been saying the same thing about S&W empty chamber indicators for years!!! They cause debris to get on the window of your optic. Which is why I always tell people to get it milled so you can put that rear sight in front to solve that problem. Thanks you for being truthful about their products Jerry.

    • @AikarAdora
      @AikarAdora หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just experienced this, went to clean and found a massive gunk on my optic that i thought was damage, and it even hardened up to need cleaner.
      the S&W Equalizer optics plate is at least further back and not having this issue on it, but the comp is def a big issue.

  • @jamesdelong6401
    @jamesdelong6401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I REALLY love these two last new 2.0 metal pistols from Smith&Wesson. I know I'll be purchasing the 1st 2.0 metal next Saturday. Then the Competitor 2.0 metal in January. I've been doing the review on the 1st 2.0 metal for the last month. Leraning the whole breakdown of the pistol. I even ordered up a dry fire kit from G-site to practice with the pistol when I get it and to train my eyes to focus before I get the pistol I ordered up Chris sajnog shooters string. Love this product. Since I've had it a week now. My focus is GREATLY improved

  • @TBullCajunbreadmaker
    @TBullCajunbreadmaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be a professional exhibition shooter you have to be able to know enough about what you are shooting in order to get the gun to run like you want it to. I'm in no way up to Jerry's calibration but I am calibrated too only on a different level. I wish I could shoot as often as Jerry but I don't have access anymore to our old family property. Sold! Hopefully I can find another piece somewhere, and I will have total control over that one. Getting hard to find places to shoot any more. You can at least still go and shoot off of the bridges in the country and shoot water mocassins in the spring. Good shooting Jerry, I like that S&W. Wonder if it comes in .30 carbine?

  • @raykettel1837
    @raykettel1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed the details of how this MP is different than the polymer models that preceded it. I did not get those details from some of the other channels that released videos on day 1 of its release.

  • @cameronsimonton2515
    @cameronsimonton2515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are those actually useable front serrations 😊
    Also agree…the “chamber” indicator is a waste-difficult to see in good light, forget it in the dark; press check (or better yet, look at Taurus tactile chamber indicator on the side)

  • @tonysopranoshorse1215
    @tonysopranoshorse1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m wondering why S&W decided to make the frame aluminum. As the metal gun weighs just about the same as the polymer 5 inch m&p.
    Competition wise, I would think people would prefer all steel for the additional weight.
    Just a thought, not completely disregarding the gun.

    • @smann9816
      @smann9816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!

    • @alexmar1382
      @alexmar1382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cost

    • @jshannon5771
      @jshannon5771 ปีที่แล้ว

      Less flex of the frame would be my guess = better accuracy.

    • @musicman1eanda
      @musicman1eanda ปีที่แล้ว

      This is what I've been screaming from the rooftops since this released. How does a Turkish company like Canik realize this better than an American company with the release of their Rival Steel model?

  • @deniceouellette7216
    @deniceouellette7216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my metal 2.0. Great shoot, so accurate & fun.

    • @deniceouellette7216
      @deniceouellette7216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish I knew about the competitor before though. Love long guns.

  • @jmannn1993
    @jmannn1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your the best Jerry! GOAT

  • @chrispearce9224
    @chrispearce9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just gonna have to go put in an order for one of these babies. I have a version one M&P that is 7 or 8 years old....don't remember. It has fired nothing but reloads from my bench and it has never let me down in the local pistol comps and 3-gun matches. Just a beast.
    I think the M&P is behind my XDM 5.25 by 8,000 rounds because I bought the M&P a year after the XDM.

    • @chrispearce9224
      @chrispearce9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LoL. That's a long way of saying I want to go order a Metal 2.0.

  • @GeorgeT6566
    @GeorgeT6566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always liked a Metal frame guns. I own some Beretta's and a few other full metal frame guns and I like them all. Might just have to give this one a try.

  • @HenkduPlooy-ym3ed
    @HenkduPlooy-ym3ed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your are still a legend.
    Greetings from South Africa

  • @Casket-Man
    @Casket-Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now they just need a steel frame version and I'll be interested.

  • @saa6751
    @saa6751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry could make any gun appear amazing.

  • @gregmcmurray9593
    @gregmcmurray9593 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful review and some mighty fine shootio. I got mine home today. Anxious to get it to the range. The trigger is different than my Walther PDP. Dry fire the Walther feels better but you can't obviously go y that. It will be interesting to see the S&W vs the Canik Rival SFX S. Two all metal guns with exactly the same price. Keep them g#ns coming.

  • @NorthwoodsShooter
    @NorthwoodsShooter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smith & Wesson should have never got away from their 3rd Gen line of pistols. These represented the peak of their products.

    • @dchil15
      @dchil15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They represented the time period they existed in. The world has moved beyond the steel frames and hammer fired actions.

    • @Okebejoey
      @Okebejoey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still love my 3913.

  • @brianthurber2713
    @brianthurber2713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude called it "trick". Love it old man!

  • @Yahweh-Chase-Bella
    @Yahweh-Chase-Bella ปีที่แล้ว

    These are really sharp looking guns. I just wish they weren't pushing $900 when it's said and done. I just got a Canik Rival for my first pistol, I am looking for a 2nd one that's a little smaller to carry

  • @LiorIPSC
    @LiorIPSC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still shooting a polymer 5" M2.0 CORE. Shot the X5 Legion for a year, which I found easy compared to the M&P, but I prefer the smith ergos. Any justification for owning a Competitor instead of a polymer CORE if I don't need a magwell of extended mag release?

  • @holgrym
    @holgrym ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had no less than 10 light primer strikes with a variety of ammo brands…~800rnds…. Yes I’ve cleaned and lubed the gun many times. Any suggestions as I have another match in about 3 weeks.

  • @coreymoyers5771
    @coreymoyers5771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, you don't like that chamber indicator too. Since we use optics now, I've never understood why they keep putting those in guns. There are other methods of chamber indicators that don't blow carbon on the optic lens. Just pick one and use it.

  • @paulpugh2480
    @paulpugh2480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its good to hear from you Jerry.

  • @BikeThrottleOfficial
    @BikeThrottleOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love a tour of Jerry’s gun room

    • @jasonm9264
      @jasonm9264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesss!! Would need to be a mini series lol

  • @mp40jager
    @mp40jager ปีที่แล้ว

    question, can you buy the mag pads for the new mags and put them on the old magazines? I have plenty M2.0 mags.

  • @maxfit68906
    @maxfit68906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Already own the 2.0 Metal 4.25 inch. All I would need is for S&W to just sell the Competitor slide assembly and barrel.

  • @typedeaf
    @typedeaf ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from the I20 end of LA. Questions for you, Jerry. Why isnt a ported barrel allowed in production class? Isnt a compensator allowed in production class? What are common 'upgrades' in the open class, that arent allowed in the production class, and how significant are they?

  • @marioso1975
    @marioso1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Awesome Man God Bless you 🙏🏻. I just ordered one for my G19 Gen 5 looking to see how one fits on a Shield Plus 9mm.

  • @philsalamone8945
    @philsalamone8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one of these on order with my local gun shop. Does that bottom “lip” magwell come off?

  • @snake13x
    @snake13x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Smith & Wesson needs to make all of their 9mm pistols have large enough ejection ports so that you can interchange different caliber barrels and magazines. That's why I bought my original Smith & Wesson M&P in 40 S&W, so I could change out the barrel and use it as a 9mm or a 357 Sig. This modularity is very useful and helpful (at this point you might as well sell all M&P's with Optics ready cuts in the slides and threaded barrels on everything in addition to installing APEX triggers). Also I noticed the new fully metal Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 no longer has the detent in the way of the slide stop/release (is about time if you ask me, that slide stop detent was nothing but trouble).
    Also make the trigger guard larger so there's enough room to use a heavy glove for winter. I also like how Glocks triggers stay in the rear position when they are not cocked.

    • @aturboford1
      @aturboford1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So can lefty’s use the right side “slide stop” as a slide release again? That’s the hugest letdown on the 2.0s. It’s a massive engineering cop out for a modern striker fired gun to not have a functioning slide release.

  • @Duunti
    @Duunti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I definitely want one… High-end though tough. Yeah 🤘🏼

  • @ant.kicks7037
    @ant.kicks7037 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can use the old polymer magazines you just have to slide the plastic part off for the mag wheel

  • @krihanek117
    @krihanek117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jerry, beautiful gun.

  • @KenBooker-b7h
    @KenBooker-b7h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hello! I have a question. I hope you could answer for me. I have two Smith and Wesson M2.0 one full size 4.25 17 round magazine and one compact 3.6 15 round magazine, can I use the 15 round magazine in my 17 round pistol?
    Thank you! In advance

  • @matthewdropco
    @matthewdropco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would be interesting to see that pistol in 10mm!

  • @ryanbb474
    @ryanbb474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Jerry says let’s do fast shooting… prepare for GOAT

  • @bengesell
    @bengesell ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review. Thanks!

  • @CoolCalmCoop
    @CoolCalmCoop หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, youve convinced me to get one. Hopefully i can find some goood deals on black friday.

  • @informaticamcy4250
    @informaticamcy4250 ปีที่แล้ว

    *** I have a Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 Metal and I bought it new at the store. But it has a problem after 200rd: when firing, at one point the bullet gets stuck in the magazine because the spring loses its position and the bullet is not aligned with the chamber. All the magazines that came from the factory (17rd), have the same problem. Later, I bought another magazine in another store on 17rd, and I have the same problem. what problem could that be? Please! ***

  • @aurashkheradmandi6925
    @aurashkheradmandi6925 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mr Miculek, is the competitor sear different than the 2.0? I am trying to compare between my PC editions

  • @ronaldwilliams3495
    @ronaldwilliams3495 ปีที่แล้ว

    you helped me to make my final decision. Goin get it!

  • @SanSabaSongbird
    @SanSabaSongbird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you get that 23 rounder from s&w? All i see is the one with the grip sleeve

  • @KnivesSurvival
    @KnivesSurvival 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that gun!!

  • @brianmoore1164
    @brianmoore1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wholeheartedly approve of more firearms being made from metal! I am way beyond bored with plastic guns. 🔫

  • @laptopdragon
    @laptopdragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wouldn't a steel frame be better suited for target/tournament?

  • @DustinSilva
    @DustinSilva 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious why the first shot is higher than the rest of the group?? More explanation please.

  • @scottsmith4710
    @scottsmith4710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sold! I can’t wait to get one!👍

  • @Crunchytoast90
    @Crunchytoast90 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a great gun. I haven’t been able to find a proper holster for it though. Great shooting!

  • @keithwatkins2643
    @keithwatkins2643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to see a comparison between this and a Canik SFT or SFX.

  • @TheAc148
    @TheAc148 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey jerry love your stuff keep it up! I just got my competitor last month got a few thousand rounds through it. Awesome gun have any recommendation for a new trigger that has no safety and less slack, and any recommendations on a ported barrel?

  • @jimhartzell5092
    @jimhartzell5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job Jerry!! Where's Lena, oh it's not a sig....Wish you and your family Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's !!!

  • @dwightbernheimer331
    @dwightbernheimer331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only competitive shooter that can say what he Doesn't like about the gun... And Still NOT lose His sponsorship... Don't Overthink It...

  • @thelostboyscout1489
    @thelostboyscout1489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If ya loose the beveled magwell, will the mags from the polymer frame gun work?

  • @sheepdawg23wm
    @sheepdawg23wm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as usual. How do I get my hands on one of those sweet hoodies you're wearing in this review?

  • @Sticks0915
    @Sticks0915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The video I've been waiting for since I saw this pistol released. My question is how are you liking that trigger. I tried and M&P 2.0 polymer and didn't like that hinged trigger. The new trigger looks similar to an Apex. So if this is going to be your 3 gun pistol, would be cool to see a video on what mods you plan to make to it for you for competition

    • @mikewithers299
      @mikewithers299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the same factory trigger in the Shield Plus and I love it. My other 3 M&Ps had the hinged triggers. I do well with all but I love the flat trigger the best.

  • @willrector9716
    @willrector9716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a darn fine looking gun

  • @cosmicabyss7358
    @cosmicabyss7358 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What red dot are you using?
    Would really appreciate the info.

  • @victormaxwell5947
    @victormaxwell5947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Young man just wanted to say hey from Alaska 🇺🇸

  • @alextaylor29
    @alextaylor29 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an M&P and will check this gun out thanks Jerry.

  • @TheCaptBligh
    @TheCaptBligh ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you reviewing the smith and wesson mp 5.7 x 28. Its a lot different than the other 57 gun models on the market..

  • @bradalan7188
    @bradalan7188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats still a great group for us mere mortals...

  • @lm-usmc
    @lm-usmc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He just amazes me.

  • @BanditApache-nd6lu
    @BanditApache-nd6lu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have no problems pulling the trigger for disassembly.

  • @fredistheharvey3741
    @fredistheharvey3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am curious have you tried at 50 yards for grouping?

  • @CaliAAA72
    @CaliAAA72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry is that sweatshirt you were wearing available for sale on the web ?

  • @golfer963
    @golfer963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, Jerry. Nice look pistol.. I wish Smith&Wesson will send you a CSX pistol

  • @LibertySpam
    @LibertySpam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This will be my Bday gift

  • @godisgood9720
    @godisgood9720 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do they make it in .45acp?

  • @TheMediocreMinuteman
    @TheMediocreMinuteman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jerry!

  • @cypritchard2311
    @cypritchard2311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry for president!

  • @markflynn2294
    @markflynn2294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jerry. I'm looking forward to checking one out at SHOT show next month.

  • @jjprinsloo4046
    @jjprinsloo4046 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope u see this comment Jerry.
    U have inspired me to train harder and so I am looking for a durable affordable platform.
    Whould u still recommend this after shooting it for a year??
    God bless.

  • @fredistheharvey3741
    @fredistheharvey3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of 10 shot group accuracy at 50 yards can it do?

  • @wh07016
    @wh07016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What model is the red dot !!

  • @jeffedwards9039
    @jeffedwards9039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jerry I have been a fan of you for a long time sir you are the best!... I have a question for you I watched your video on the smith metal 2.0 I enjoyed it so much I went out grabbed one. My question is what is the best optic for this pistol? Any input would be appreciated...thanks in advance Jerry

  • @bogieman101
    @bogieman101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jerry, but it would really help if you would test accuracy with both eyes closed. I think it would be closer to my ability.

  • @kzyt87
    @kzyt87 ปีที่แล้ว

    will it work if you use the 4.25 inch barrel in the competitor make it like a comp like the sig macro?