Cheers Eddy 🤝 Your one of the real Geordies with a real decent channel .i divnt have to tell you, you arent just an nufc channel, your Tyneside life and that sais it all.anyway ive thanked the channels i like and subscribe to and i trust Because there are So many clout chasers starting up dodgy so-called nufc channels and it winds me up.they are trying to milk us through our obvious passion.we love the toon and we are united ✊ TheToonReview ⭐ AdamP⭐ TheMagpieChannel ⭐ TrueFaith tftv ⭐ and sometimes another a one that a friend watches so aye cheers for being a true No BS channel eddy @TynsideLife 🫡 🏴🏳️🏴🏳️🏴 Catchyalater 🐜🤝
Great video.The owners are not affected by financial fair play regarding the stadium and surrounding area.They can basically spend as much as they want.From a fan point of view though,its maximising the capacity of the stadium which will be priority.Not what happens around it.
Top content and video, refreshing see someone chat Saudi strategy and not simply read the gossip column. I can see the Georgian terrace being incorporated into the stadium. By this I mean the new stand would engulf the Terrance, the stadium seating on top and the terrace houses might become shops, restaurants, bars. A bit like st pancras train station. Just build over then and keep their facades.
Thank you bud 🙏 I think what I’m failing to get across sufficiently well is that these Grade I listed buildings are to be protected, not just from demolition, but from any physical encroachment that takes away their aesthetic significance. A football stand covering a building of significant historical importance is no longer a building of significant historical importance, in fact it’s not even as important as a football stadium. I’m a passionate Newcastle fan but I have to stress that any notion of building over the building just isn’t going to happen. Never.
@@TynesideLife I don't disagree with the grade 1 listing, but this can be overcome and potentially incorporated or resolved. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)
@@clowbeck1202 sorry I don’t know your name and I’m not professing to be an expert but I do study history. I’m aware of this but you’re completely misunderstanding a lot of the legalities and circumstances around these structures and their protection statuses. This bridge was allowed to be sold, as its old 1830’s structure was no longer fit for purpose by the 1960’s due to the increase in vehicle volume. It was being replaced anyway. Leazes Tce is completely different and the chances of it being either demolished, or built over as part of a football stand are so remote and implausible (within the unique context and circumstances of its being), It’s just not worthy of a valid conversation in any adult sense. If there are other channels, or social media platforms out there claiming that this is a viable and plausible outcome, then you are being grossly misled by individuals who know no better. I know that sounds a bit blunt, but I really have to try and dampen these wildly remote speculations.
@@TynesideLife Time will tell no doubt, it's all conjecture at this point. Regardless of what happens, the outcome of any investment by the club will have a positive impact on the area overall.
@@clowbeck1202 Even if Leazes Tce wasn’t a listed building, you can see from an aerial shot it’s positioning in relation to the East side of the stadium. The East stand only covers half of Leazes Tce. Forget the idea mate 👍🏻 I completely agree that the PIF will make investments that will provide benefits, not only to the club but to the city too. This will boost the local economy, provide opportunities for further investment, boost tourism and job opportunities. And do all of this whilst maintaining the historical integrity of the area and even make it more appealing. This is an incredibly exciting time!
I’ve only watched on TV and I really love seeing the huge Newcastle United sign over the East Stand. I will miss it, I hope whatever replaces it looks great too. I’m sure it will
Great video eddie thank you, Just a thought could they not include the rear side of leazes terrace that faces the stand into the stadium or even part of the concourse? Maybe incororate the entrance to the east stand via the court yard then you won't affect the owned propertys on the front more like a reception entrance appose to turnstyles if you like (The owners of the owned property's in leazes terrace may get a little disgruntled) then build up right from the curb and take the road out completley as you said it's part of the english heratige from the edge of the grass section opposate the east stand? Just a thought hopefully it made some sense.
There’s a balance to be had as they’ll likely need to maintain their stand alone status due to their historical significance. I’m not convinced turning into part of a football stadium achieves that (if I’ve understood you correctly?)
Great content as ever Eddie, agree with everything you say with well reasoned explanation into the difficulties the club will have. Hoping we can gain the extra 10,000 seats needed as we need them to compete with the Greedy 6 revenue wise. 5 of which already have greater capacity then SJP
Works for me Ed. Any change you could get an sports architect to draw up mock plans for an East Stand expansive incorporating transparent/glass based materials materials.
Think you are on the right lines here Eddie. I can see the East Stand becoming the super posh end connected to the hotel for international visitors from the middle east and elsewhere with the other 3 stands being for the regular supporters. A new stand might only increase the capacity by a relatively small amount due to the size constraints but the revenue could be huge ( thinking FFP rules ).
Where is the image you use in your thumbnail image for this video? Looks amazing….Very exciting times ahead for us…. And can’t wait to enjoy the journey! Let’s hope it never ends! Nufc… champions of the world!
@@TynesideLife need to use them in the video then so ya can see the full grand spectacle of them…. Unless I’m doing by something wrong.. I can’t zoom in on the video image only… Anyhow… amazing video as always!
Eddie absolutely brilliant idea about hotel, pedestrian area outside socialising and all in the back drop of a new fantastic state of the art stadium. Let's hoping mate. Once again fantastic video 👍👍👍👍👍
Very interesting. I love the thought that any development might have the interests of all the citizens of Newcastle in mind and not just the football club. Just another random thought: Wouldn't it be great to create an Avenue in which the East Stand had a facade that matched the facade of Leazes Avenue.
Buy out the building, have a hotel upstairs and put a glass roof on the interior courtyard- you have a massive indoor area that can be divided up into different aspects; corporate, fan-zone, club shop etc...
Wouldn't worry about the saudi guy who privately owns the flats part. He will either accept PIF offer, or he will be invited to the nearest Saudi embassy building 😜
Eddy do you think the east stand from above will sync in with the other 2 stands. Can you do a video on FFP, how much per year will the club shell out for Tonali. 👍
It’s difficult to imagine what the East Stand will look like but I think it’ll be by far the best looking, even though it will be the smallest. Tonali will cost £8.5m per year on wages. FfP is a moving target and depends on a number of factors. I do know that we haven’t got as much to spend right now as many believe
My understanding was always that it was only the facade was listed anyway. The inside of the buildings is s'posed to have zero architectural merit (I don't just mean the back of the terrace/courtyard area, I mean the actual interior of the building itself). Buying the terrace and having it integrated into a new stand design-with a pedestrianised street and the stand arching above it to form a covered walkway-would be immense. Bit like how they did with the British Museum. Either way though, if they were to switch focus to the East stand and leave the Gallowgate as it is, it would still end up looking pony. The Gallowgate needs bringing into line with the overall design.
The Grade 1 listing would make turning the buildings into a hotel very difficult and hugely costly over and above what you would normally invest into developing a hotel, it's a nice idea but I'm not sure that the cost against return would warrant such development and that Grade 1 listing means that you can't take down walls and do what you want to create the internal spaces that would be necessary for a hotel.
It’s exactly the opposite mate. Sorry. This very thing is currently being done on Pilgrims St as we speak. It has also been done on Nuns St with the Alchemist. The Facade remains as the inside is completely transformed. This is I should point also what has happened to convert the inside of Leazes Tce into a student Halls of Residence. Of course it’s expensive but a hotel conversion is a very viable and lucrative long term investment the city, not just football fans. Plus converting the ground floor into boutique shops, cafes and restaurants is not a new idea. I also discuss these ideas with experts in their field and if you’ve watched my previous video, I interview the owner of St James’ Tce. These are Grade II listed buildings. You’re welcome 😀
@@TynesideLife they would be better off developing Strawberry Place in the long run as a fan zone bar and restaurant complex with a hotel above it, there is already planning permissions in place for a hotel there which with some adjustments could be made to work with an expansion of the Gallowgate end.
@@RushfanUK I’ve done a video about the Strawberry Place Fanzone. I’ve since been contacted by someone privy to information on the new scheme and they’ve told me that my vision is spot on. Its going to be called Sela City Zone. If you get a minute, have a watch 👍🏻 In regards to your planning permission point, there was planning permission submitted by the previous land ‘owners’ (its leased) for three tower blocks, one a hotel. Those plans are no longer applicable or valid. Currently there is no planning application for the land concerned in regards to the new Fanzone but this may, or may not have its own hotel there too. My only aim in my responses to you is to correct some misunderstandings. The purpose of my Leazes Tce video is to encourage people to expand their minds and understanding of the amazing possibilities. It’s not meant to come across as what is actually happening. Thank you for your interest mate 👍🏻
Another very informative video Eddy. This certainly ain't an Anfield situation where the houses around the stadium were of working class terrace type houses and better knocked down, Leazes terrace is fine example of Georgian architecture, something new stadiums will never have near them. If it can be adapted and the stand redeveloped sympathetically, it would really add class to a stadium which in my opinion looks a bit drab with its somewhat grey exterior. If they get this right, and i'm pretty sure these Saudis will, if they develop behind the goal the same as the rest you'd have three sides the same and a chance to design something that completely contrasts the rest of the stadium, in a sense a bit like La Bombonera in Buenos Aires.
If the PIF would like to own it I am sure there is a way the two countrymen can come to an agreement. Either that or the ‘Run-Away Dump/Digger help the protection while also knock over protected trees the block to Construction more than you’ll ever no!
I thought the gallowgate would be expanded first, i think that is easier but at least given the circumstances of who own the listed buildings 70k isn't impossible
@@JoshuaBLMain If they buy Leazes Tce, which I firmly believe they will, there’d be no right to light objections and I’m utterly convinced they’ll turn the building into a hotel with shops, restaurants etc. Then they can build the height up as is demonstrated on the small picture on my video thumbnail and get a few more thousand in. I have an inkling they may not have any plans to expand the Gallowgate…
@@michaelstephenson631 I’m obviously not privy to what the owners are specifically planning but we do know that they are prioritising the fanzone in Strawberry place and are setting about doing a feasibility study to rebuild the East Stand and the area behind it. It’s my opinion that the expansion of the Gallowgate is not a priority for the owners.
I love the graft you put into your work Eddy, it lifts your videos head and shoulders above the rest! Keep it up mate and thanks for keeping me informed dude😎
Yep i totally agree with you firstly yes i cant see them taking on that massive legal battle to pull grade 1 listed buildings down, having to go to parliament level then yeah. There has to be ways to work within the footprint of the stand and yeah maybe increase capacity a bit. Yes the hotel idea would fit right in and given the building is already opened by a Saudi company then that would probably help negotiations to buy it. Anyway keep the news coming on how its going mate.
I think Newcastle will build over Leazes Terrace, because they want a big capacity. Comprimises will be made on the natural light issue. Where there's a will, there's a way. No one wants demolition. I wonder about the one time mooted 'arcade option'... Well done for finding out that the 'mysterious middle eastern' owner was Saudi. Finally, I disagree that the east stand is ugly. Like Craig Hope, who I often disagree with, the walk to the east stand is part of our childhood. It is also the only part of the ground that has survived since I my first match.
Why are 'parked cars awful'? People need to put them somewhere. Do residents and workers from the area need to walk further to load their vehicles so some plant pots and All Bar One benches can be put there?
If the present owner is willing to sell ? And I know he is a toon supporter ,then what's the problem? It could be part of the football club .who would live there ? Academy players ? Coaches? Etc etc .east stand could go up and over , road stays open ,win win win . Toon army .
Good video as ever mate. That stand is a problem and a real opportunity - architects are amazing these days on how they can work amazing design within tight spaces, plus new materials offer new more height for less footprint perhaps? Cannot wait to see the finished plans.
We, in this country have taken down too much beautiful original architecture. As much as it is necessary to increase the stadium capacity it should not be at the expense of those buildings.
The club now has a bottomless pot of cash, So they could buy the land on the West side, demolish those ugly office blocks, reconfigure the road, and shift the stadium across, creating space to build a much bigger East stand 🙂
Those ugly office blocks is part of the cities Helix sector (a science city) one of only six in the country. Cutting edge innovative science is happening there with plans to expand it. This area is going nowhere bud 🤷🏻♂️
Really interesting ideas. Knocking it down and rebuilding it could allow for some increase in capacity. You could maybe build it slightly higher and deeper if you incorporated a lot of glass as it would avoid some issues with light being blocked. I imagine if they did that, it would be a real premium seating area. The limited capacity increase would only be one aspect of it as expensive seats with good facilities could be created. That would be controversial in itself. It will interesting to see what happens though. My guess would be that in 10 years time, the stadium will look different to what it does now with the east stand being the one that’ll see the greatest change.
Never realised i wasn't subscribed Eddie, my bad, rectified now though ;) anyway i don't think Leazes Terr will be touched at all and that the East stand will be knocked and rebuilt to modern standards but, i don't think capacity would be increased by as much as some are suggesting, time will tell.
New stadium ain’t happening Ron and this video is part 2 to the one before which talks about the owner’s feasibility study and expansion of the East Stand. I also have an exclusive interview with the owner of one of the buildings behind the stand. Have a watch 👍🏻
Build the stand then extend it further out and have the yerrace as part of the structure with the front of the terrace being indoors sorrounded by glass and marble floor, inside under the stand you could have a NUFC meuseum, bars, restaurants, gym spa/lesure centre. Have the terrace as a hotel with the entrance at the back
Nice ideas but unlikely to happen due to its protection status. That doesn’t merely mean protection from demolition, but protection from external encroachment and interference
its fascinating to watch this. I'm a Liverpool fan and we've had similar awful problems with nuisance neighbours... and hideous owners. Right now, we are still in the Mike Ashley stage sadly. Ironically if Amanda Staveley's Dubai group took over LFC as planned in 2010, LFC would have been sorted. But anyway its nice to see you now have decent owners not the truly verminous Ashley now.
I think expanding the stadium to hold 80+ thousand would contribute alot more to the local area like extra 20k+ fans in the city centre every other week especially if we are winning leagues and cups
There just isn’t the footprint available Jack to realistically expand it past approximately 65k, without a complete rebuild and that won’t happen as there’s nowhere to play for two years
@TynesideLife yeah true. I've always been all for a new stadium being built just outside the city centre and keeping St James for youth and women's games and other events. But I know alot of us don't wanna move from SJP which I would rather not do but I also want to see the club go further and we deserve a stadium to fit us all in. And I wouldn't put it past the owners to build one of the world's biggest stadium up here. I think if we can't expand past 60ish thousand we should just build a new stadium
Great idea Eddy, if nothing else it’s a starting point on what we could do. My opinion would be that your idea should be seriously looked at. I also like the idea of Strawberry place fan zone. To be incorporated into Gallowgate with the old original gates being the entrance. Exciting times
What I think is concentrate on the Gallowgate, initially. Strawberry Place has been purchased back off toad Mikey. Advancements especially in crane technology means they can add 10,000 seats with a second tier - 3 sides all same height, steep and intimidating. The east stand (I actually love brutist architecture as I am a 40 somet from Manchester) - but if it is glass and allows light in, they could make add a corporate tier and maybe some safe standing. I could see it getting to 65k and improving hospitality on the east stand, but not much more capacity there - physical parameters won't allow for it in all honesty. Even so, at 65,000 it would be one of the largest and most intimidating in British club football. That is where I believe the energies should be focussed, that and the training ground.
Brutalist architecture has it's place for me. I actually don't mind it as a stadium style. The stand is obsolete now owing to its limited capacity and lack of facilities rather than it's architecture per se. When it was first built it was actually quite an elegant solution. The roof appeared massive without any end screens. Now it looks absurdly small in the context of the other stands. Amazing how times change.
@@sammyb1651 exactly. Maybe a slope similar to City Ground at Forest adjacent to The Strawberry pub with some safe standing could allow a couple more thousand. Either way 65,000 could be achievable using crane technology and lateral thinking.
T. Dan Smith and Newcastle City Council were quick enough to knock down listed buildings in Old Eldon Square and on Blackett Street, when it suited them in the 1970s.
Those were Grade II listed and as I’ve explained, if a wider economic benefit can be evidenced, decisions can be made to demolish. Leazes Tce is Grade I and I’m reasonably convinced that there wouldn’t be a strong enough case to demolish those. I believe the owners will see Leazes Tce as a big commercial opportunity 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife I wasn't arguing with you. I was just pointing out that local authorities will justify any decision, if it suits them at the time. The term 'wider economic benefit' is purely subjective and potentially open to misuse.
Hoping any expansions plans are considering the most environmentally friendly, as certainly we want our grandchildren to be able to enjoy football as we have?
If the owners just bought the protected building refurbed it into a hotel like you said and knocked down the east stand could they not incorporate it into the structure of the stadium like an extension of the stadium itself?
Would be tremendous Eddy if this kind of development came about.....its arguably a akin to Chelsea's ground where they have a hotel? Adjoining? The ground. A development such as the one suggested in your video, takes this part of the city well into the 21st century and beyond?
@TynesideLife Hi Eddy 👋 thanks for the reply. A sympathetic transformation where all concerned parties work together for a tangible and true long-term benefits to both our city and NUFC will realise economic prosperity.
I’ll take a hotel that would be a great idea, but like I said in your last video they’d loose a lot of respect from my end if they knocked it down. That’s a no no from me like.
Interesting take, I always had a feeling that they would eventually have to rebuild the East Stand, if for no other reason that, as you say, it's 50 years old, and bloomin ugly. I'm sure there's scope to add a few thousand to the capacity through some decent engineering. It definitely needs to be brought into the 21st century whatever happens.
I like your thinking Eddy! I'd never have thought of a hotel, but it makes sense. A Saudi owner may be happy to sell to the club. With your other video talking about light being an issue, with new design ideas, glass would sort that out. And the whole area being fan oriented, this is surely the way to go.
Mirror the façade of the Historic on the facing of the Park East stand Ground level in a way shifting the focus to frame up the walk mall area. pushing out squaring up stands with belt of VIP sky boxes for corporate sponsors the Glass can have Park name and the Angel of the North image..
Just get rid of that grade 1 listed. it's probably riddled in bad history. It's right the middle east come and wipe out some of our historic buildings like the army has done to them.
So let me get this right you doubt people with unlimited money could get people to sell there house if the owners decide they really want to do this??😂😂 everyone has a price
The Saudis don’t have unlimited money to spend on NUFC. That’s a limited understanding of our relationship with the PIF. Setting that aside, that wasn’t the main and important point that was being discussed as to the complications👍🏻
surely the answer is to build a new stadium. I bet there are potential sites not far away. Although perhaps close to the main arterials would be a good option.
The hotel idea was something I mentioned just after the takeover. Everyone I told just laughed at me. I personally think the capacity with the East Stand and Gallowgate expansion when completed could be over 70,000 . I think the Grade 2 listed buildings could be moved to a different part of the city or even Beamish. It wouldn’t be cheap and it would be difficult but it could be done
@@TynesideLife I’m on about the Grade 2 listed buildings which you were talking about on your previous video. I know the Grade 1 listed buildings will not be moved. I know doing work inside listed buildings can be a nightmare. I saw a television show a few years ago. The people wanted to remove an awful 1970s bathroom from a listed Georgian house. They were told the bathroom was listed because it was already in the property when the building was granted listed status. 🤦♂️
@@peteralderson1483 I was too Peter. I know in exceptional circumstances buildings can be moved but this is rare and because of a critical or culturally significant reason. If you haven’t seen my previous video, I interview the owner of those Grade II listed buildings. Even if the above criteria were met, which I’d argue it isn’t, available real estate in Newcastle city centre is negligibly none existent. There’s more chance of a demolition, but that’ll be a push
I can't see them moving any of the grade 2 listed buildings especially to Beamish,we will just have to wait for relevant reviews and reports to find out concrete solutions to what has been an issue for as long as NUFC 's ground was initially developed. Here's hoping we get a positive solution for the club and for the owners of the said buildings, great podcast , very informative and useful.
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As always Eddie, fantastic video packed with clear and concise information . Keep em coming!!
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Knocking leazes terrace down would be as shocking as knocking down St James in my opinion, absolutely stunning building, use it... dont lose it
The video is literally about utilising it as a boutique hotel. It won’t be knocked down 👍🏻
Just love your posts Eddie and agree with all you allude to. Keep up the great work 😊♥️🙏
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That’s a great take on what the club can do 👍 I never thought about them buying them and building over the top 🤛🤛🤛
Thank you but I never suggested building kvetch the top. That may cause done complications, but a glass roof canopy over the road may work 👍🏻
Great video.The owners are not affected by financial fair play regarding the stadium and surrounding area.They can basically spend as much as they want.From a fan point of view though,its maximising the capacity of the stadium which will be priority.Not what happens around it.
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I like the positive conclusion! 😁 Let's make it beautiful!
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Top content and video, refreshing see someone chat Saudi strategy and not simply read the gossip column.
I can see the Georgian terrace being incorporated into the stadium. By this I mean the new stand would engulf the Terrance, the stadium seating on top and the terrace houses might become shops, restaurants, bars. A bit like st pancras train station. Just build over then and keep their facades.
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I think what I’m failing to get across sufficiently well is that these Grade I listed buildings are to be protected, not just from demolition, but from any physical encroachment that takes away their aesthetic significance. A football stand covering a building of significant historical importance is no longer a building of significant historical importance, in fact it’s not even as important as a football stadium.
I’m a passionate Newcastle fan but I have to stress that any notion of building over the building just isn’t going to happen. Never.
@@TynesideLife I don't disagree with the grade 1 listing, but this can be overcome and potentially incorporated or resolved.
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@@clowbeck1202 sorry I don’t know your name and I’m not professing to be an expert but I do study history.
I’m aware of this but you’re completely misunderstanding a lot of the legalities and circumstances around these structures and their protection statuses.
This bridge was allowed to be sold, as its old 1830’s structure was no longer fit for purpose by the 1960’s due to the increase in vehicle volume. It was being replaced anyway.
Leazes Tce is completely different and the chances of it being either demolished, or built over as part of a football stand are so remote and implausible (within the unique context and circumstances of its being), It’s just not worthy of a valid conversation in any adult sense.
If there are other channels, or social media platforms out there claiming that this is a viable and plausible outcome, then you are being grossly misled by individuals who know no better.
I know that sounds a bit blunt, but I really have to try and dampen these wildly remote speculations.
@@TynesideLife Time will tell no doubt, it's all conjecture at this point. Regardless of what happens, the outcome of any investment by the club will have a positive impact on the area overall.
@@clowbeck1202 Even if Leazes Tce wasn’t a listed building, you can see from an aerial shot it’s positioning in relation to the East side of the stadium. The East stand only covers half of Leazes Tce. Forget the idea mate 👍🏻
I completely agree that the PIF will make investments that will provide benefits, not only to the club but to the city too.
This will boost the local economy, provide opportunities for further investment, boost tourism and job opportunities. And do all of this whilst maintaining the historical integrity of the area and even make it more appealing.
This is an incredibly exciting time!
Well done! You give the most inspired talks on Newcastle city as well as the toon. Keep on doing these.
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Beautiful and practical thoughts from your innovative mind, Eddie! Top notch man! 💎👍💯%
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Great ideas Eddie, but will we see them in our life time ? i look about your age and would love it !!
😂 I think we’ll see these sorts of plans come to fruition over the next 3/4 years 👍🏻🤛🏻
That looks good and I think Newcastle will regularly fill it.
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I think your opinion is spot on. What a beautiful place it would be, boosting both the club and city economy.
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I’ve only watched on TV and I really love seeing the huge Newcastle United sign over the East Stand. I will miss it, I hope whatever replaces it looks great too. I’m sure it will
Good video keep up the hard work mate
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Great video eddie thank you, Just a thought could they not include the rear side of leazes terrace that faces the stand into the stadium or even part of the concourse? Maybe incororate the entrance to the east stand via the court yard then you won't affect the owned propertys on the front more like a reception entrance appose to turnstyles if you like (The owners of the owned property's in leazes terrace may get a little disgruntled) then build up right from the curb and take the road out completley as you said it's part of the english heratige from the edge of the grass section opposate the east stand? Just a thought hopefully it made some sense.
There’s a balance to be had as they’ll likely need to maintain their stand alone status due to their historical significance. I’m not convinced turning into part of a football stadium achieves that (if I’ve understood you correctly?)
Are the houses just to the south on St James Street also listed buildings? Those ones are even closer to the ground and seem more relevant.
Check out the video before this one bud 👍🏻
Great content as ever Eddie, agree with everything you say with well reasoned explanation into the difficulties the club will have. Hoping we can gain the extra 10,000 seats needed as we need them to compete with the Greedy 6 revenue wise. 5 of which already have greater capacity then SJP
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Brilliant video eddy.. 👍👍 and a spot on idea about a hotel and pedestrians instead of a road too 👏👏
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Works for me Ed. Any change you could get an sports architect to draw up mock plans for an East Stand expansive incorporating transparent/glass based materials materials.
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It’s not the only stadium in the city centre in the country.
Bramall Lane is also in Sheffield city centre
I didn’t know that. Cheers 👍🏻
Think you are on the right lines here Eddie. I can see the East Stand becoming the super posh end connected to the hotel for international visitors from the middle east and elsewhere with the other 3 stands being for the regular supporters. A new stand might only increase the capacity by a relatively small amount due to the size constraints but the revenue could be huge ( thinking FFP rules ).
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Great thinking…. Jumping over a lot of the possible blockers in one swift purchase.
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Where is the image you use in your thumbnail image for this video? Looks amazing….Very exciting times ahead for us…. And can’t wait to enjoy the journey! Let’s hope it never ends! Nufc… champions of the world!
Hi mate, I had them specially done for me by a graphics designer. You can only see them on my channel. I’ve got another couple on the way 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife need to use them in the video then so ya can see the full grand spectacle of them…. Unless I’m doing by something wrong.. I can’t zoom in on the video image only…
Anyhow… amazing video as always!
@@MagicMags thank you. I will in my next videos 👍🏻
Eddie absolutely brilliant idea about hotel, pedestrian area outside socialising and all in the back drop of a new fantastic state of the art stadium.
Let's hoping mate.
Once again fantastic video
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Good video Eddie. Very interesting as normal. Let’s hope you’re right.
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Very interesting. I love the thought that any development might have the interests of all the citizens of Newcastle in mind and not just the football club. Just another random thought: Wouldn't it be great to create an Avenue in which the East Stand had a facade that matched the facade of Leazes Avenue.
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Buy out the building, have a hotel upstairs and put a glass roof on the interior courtyard- you have a massive indoor area that can be divided up into different aspects; corporate, fan-zone, club shop etc...
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Great video Eddie
That all sounds like a class idea.
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Wouldn't worry about the saudi guy who privately owns the flats part. He will either accept PIF offer, or he will be invited to the nearest Saudi embassy building 😜
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Eddy do you think the east stand from above will sync in with the other 2 stands.
Can you do a video on FFP, how much per year will the club shell out for Tonali. 👍
It’s difficult to imagine what the East Stand will look like but I think it’ll be by far the best looking, even though it will be the smallest.
Tonali will cost £8.5m per year on wages. FfP is a moving target and depends on a number of factors. I do know that we haven’t got as much to spend right now as many believe
Looks fantastic can’t wait for it to be complete 🤩🤩😆😆
It’s just a theory 😃
Deluxe hotel seems like it would fly with all concerned parties.
100% the East Stand will become a corporate stand for me.
My understanding was always that it was only the facade was listed anyway. The inside of the buildings is s'posed to have zero architectural merit (I don't just mean the back of the terrace/courtyard area, I mean the actual interior of the building itself).
Buying the terrace and having it integrated into a new stand design-with a pedestrianised street and the stand arching above it to form a covered walkway-would be immense. Bit like how they did with the British Museum.
Either way though, if they were to switch focus to the East stand and leave the Gallowgate as it is, it would still end up looking pony. The Gallowgate needs bringing into line with the overall design.
The Grade 1 listing would make turning the buildings into a hotel very difficult and hugely costly over and above what you would normally invest into developing a hotel, it's a nice idea but I'm not sure that the cost against return would warrant such development and that Grade 1 listing means that you can't take down walls and do what you want to create the internal spaces that would be necessary for a hotel.
It’s exactly the opposite mate. Sorry. This very thing is currently being done on Pilgrims St as we speak. It has also been done on Nuns St with the Alchemist.
The Facade remains as the inside is completely transformed. This is I should point also what has happened to convert the inside of Leazes Tce into a student Halls of Residence.
Of course it’s expensive but a hotel conversion is a very viable and lucrative long term investment the city, not just football fans. Plus converting the ground floor into boutique shops, cafes and restaurants is not a new idea.
I also discuss these ideas with experts in their field and if you’ve watched my previous video, I interview the owner of St James’ Tce. These are Grade II listed buildings.
You’re welcome 😀
@@TynesideLife they would be better off developing Strawberry Place in the long run as a fan zone bar and restaurant complex with a hotel above it, there is already planning permissions in place for a hotel there which with some adjustments could be made to work with an expansion of the Gallowgate end.
@@RushfanUK I’ve done a video about the Strawberry Place Fanzone. I’ve since been contacted by someone privy to information on the new scheme and they’ve told me that my vision is spot on. Its going to be called Sela City Zone. If you get a minute, have a watch 👍🏻
In regards to your planning permission point, there was planning permission submitted by the previous land ‘owners’ (its leased) for three tower blocks, one a hotel. Those plans are no longer applicable or valid.
Currently there is no planning application for the land concerned in regards to the new Fanzone but this may, or may not have its own hotel there too.
My only aim in my responses to you is to correct some misunderstandings.
The purpose of my Leazes Tce video is to encourage people to expand their minds and understanding of the amazing possibilities. It’s not meant to come across as what is actually happening.
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Another very informative video Eddy. This certainly ain't an Anfield situation where the houses around the stadium were of working class terrace type houses and better knocked down, Leazes terrace is fine example of Georgian architecture, something new stadiums will never have near them. If it can be adapted and the stand redeveloped sympathetically, it would really add class to a stadium which in my opinion looks a bit drab with its somewhat grey exterior. If they get this right, and i'm pretty sure these Saudis will, if they develop behind the goal the same as the rest you'd have three sides the same and a chance to design something that completely contrasts the rest of the stadium, in a sense a bit like La Bombonera in Buenos Aires.
Check out my new video thumbnail mate. I think you’ll like the graphic design of the idea
If the PIF would like to own it I am sure there is a way the two countrymen can come to an agreement. Either that or the ‘Run-Away Dump/Digger help the protection while also knock over protected trees the block to Construction more than you’ll ever no!
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Hot Newcastle girl around 5:15, wasn’t carrying any chips. 😮
I thought the gallowgate would be expanded first, i think that is easier but at least given the circumstances of who own the listed buildings 70k isn't impossible
It’s not impossible but so implausible, it’s not worth building your hopes up on that
@@TynesideLife yeah it's a shame but at least the east stand will look better
@@JoshuaBLMain If they buy Leazes Tce, which I firmly believe they will, there’d be no right to light objections and I’m utterly convinced they’ll turn the building into a hotel with shops, restaurants etc.
Then they can build the height up as is demonstrated on the small picture on my video thumbnail and get a few more thousand in.
I have an inkling they may not have any plans to expand the Gallowgate…
Some nice ideas there pal! ❤
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Extended the Galloway gate end coz there nee house's in the way then sort east stand out
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@@TynesideLife can you tell me why we are not m8
@@michaelstephenson631 I’m obviously not privy to what the owners are specifically planning but we do know that they are prioritising the fanzone in Strawberry place and are setting about doing a feasibility study to rebuild the East Stand and the area behind it.
It’s my opinion that the expansion of the Gallowgate is not a priority for the owners.
I love the graft you put into your work Eddy, it lifts your videos head and shoulders above the rest! Keep it up mate and thanks for keeping me informed dude😎
Thanks Ant 🙏
Yep i totally agree with you firstly yes i cant see them taking on that massive legal battle to pull grade 1 listed buildings down, having to go to parliament level then yeah. There has to be ways to work within the footprint of the stand and yeah maybe increase capacity a bit. Yes the hotel idea would fit right in and given the building is already opened by a Saudi company then that would probably help negotiations to buy it. Anyway keep the news coming on how its going mate.
I can always rely on you for a sound appraisal Martin 🤛🏻👍🏻
I think Newcastle will build over Leazes Terrace, because they want a big capacity. Comprimises will be made on the natural light issue. Where there's a will, there's a way. No one wants demolition. I wonder about the one time mooted 'arcade option'... Well done for finding out that the 'mysterious middle eastern' owner was Saudi. Finally, I disagree that the east stand is ugly. Like Craig Hope, who I often disagree with, the walk to the east stand is part of our childhood. It is also the only part of the ground that has survived since I my first match.
Why are 'parked cars awful'? People need to put them somewhere. Do residents and workers from the area need to walk further to load their vehicles so some plant pots and All Bar One benches can be put there?
Innovation and progress doesn’t suit everyone I suppose 🤷🏻♂️
parking might be the problem, i think owners wont want to upset people living in the area, hotel would be a great idea but as i said parking
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Still think they’ll move to a new ground. Castle Leazes Accomodation is closing next summer.
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If the present owner is willing to sell ? And I know he is a toon supporter ,then what's the problem? It could be part of the football club .who would live there ? Academy players ? Coaches? Etc etc .east stand could go up and over , road stays open ,win win win . Toon army .
The video is about Leazes Terrace Steve, not St James Tce 😅
I seen you walking through pelaw on Sunday
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Good video as ever mate.
That stand is a problem and a real opportunity - architects are amazing these days on how they can work amazing design within tight spaces, plus new materials offer new more height for less footprint perhaps?
Cannot wait to see the finished plans.
Have you seen my video thumbnail Steve? You’ll be impressed
@@TynesideLife I did - a great take, the club will hopefully push the art of the possible mate.
ive done bits of work on them inside and out , they are not worth the hassle, knock them down
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@@TynesideLife but not let it get in the way of progress, plenty tobe proud of , these ain't it .
Hotel idea is canny . I'd bulldoze it tho
@@markscott684 ain’t going to happen Mark
@@TynesideLife I've worked on listed my whole life , I wouldn't say never
Quiz question. East stands original name....
Ooh! Don’t know that one?
We, in this country have taken down too much beautiful original architecture. As much as it is necessary to increase the stadium capacity it should not be at the expense of those buildings.
Not sure what this has to do with the video Jamie?
@@TynesideLife you are talking about local architecture including Leazes Terrace.
The club now has a bottomless pot of cash, So they could buy the land on the West side, demolish those ugly office blocks, reconfigure the road, and shift the stadium across, creating space to build a much bigger East stand 🙂
Those ugly office blocks is part of the cities Helix sector (a science city) one of only six in the country.
Cutting edge innovative science is happening there with plans to expand it.
This area is going nowhere bud 🤷🏻♂️
Really interesting ideas. Knocking it down and rebuilding it could allow for some increase in capacity. You could maybe build it slightly higher and deeper if you incorporated a lot of glass as it would avoid some issues with light being blocked.
I imagine if they did that, it would be a real premium seating area. The limited capacity increase would only be one aspect of it as expensive seats with good facilities could be created. That would be controversial in itself.
It will interesting to see what happens though. My guess would be that in 10 years time, the stadium will look different to what it does now with the east stand being the one that’ll see the greatest change.
There’s a visual representation of this on the video thumbnail 👍🏻
Never realised i wasn't subscribed Eddie, my bad, rectified now though ;) anyway i don't think Leazes Terr will be touched at all and that the East stand will be knocked and rebuilt to modern standards but, i don't think capacity would be increased by as much as some are suggesting, time will tell.
Shame on you Dave 😃
Fantastic imagination. Hope it happens
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"there's parked cars here, it's just awful" where would you like to park them to look prettier for you?
On your tiny head mate 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife you'll never park all those awful motors on my tiny head mate 😂
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It doesn't matter how you paint it it was slum and still is
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New stadium ain’t happening Ron and this video is part 2 to the one before which talks about the owner’s feasibility study and expansion of the East Stand. I also have an exclusive interview with the owner of one of the buildings behind the stand. Have a watch 👍🏻
Knock down the terrace it’s not up to much it’s holding Newcastle back , Newcastle is more important than a few old bricks 🧱
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what a hideous structure juxtaposed to the Georgian buildings in the opening shot
how did that ever get permission
It hadn’t got permission. It’s an illustration to visualise what a glass stand could look like.
Thank you for your comment and watching the video 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife I was meaning the existing structure - the brutalslist architecture you mentioned at the beginning of the video
@@-V-K- ahh sorry mate! Aye, it was trendy at the time. I hope you like the new ideas 😀
@@TynesideLife I'd never heard of the term _brutalist architecture_ , there's some of that where I live , thanks
@@-V-K- my pleasure mate 👍🏻
Build the stand then extend it further out and have the yerrace as part of the structure with the front of the terrace being indoors sorrounded by glass and marble floor, inside under the stand you could have a NUFC meuseum, bars, restaurants, gym spa/lesure centre. Have the terrace as a hotel with the entrance at the back
Nice ideas but unlikely to happen due to its protection status. That doesn’t merely mean protection from demolition, but protection from external encroachment and interference
its fascinating to watch this. I'm a Liverpool fan and we've had similar awful problems with nuisance neighbours... and hideous owners.
Right now, we are still in the Mike Ashley stage sadly. Ironically if Amanda Staveley's Dubai group took over LFC as planned in 2010, LFC would have been sorted.
But anyway its nice to see you now have decent owners not the truly verminous Ashley now.
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Decent owners? You're joking right? Murderous, oppressive owners is more appropriate.
I think expanding the stadium to hold 80+ thousand would contribute alot more to the local area like extra 20k+ fans in the city centre every other week especially if we are winning leagues and cups
There just isn’t the footprint available Jack to realistically expand it past approximately 65k, without a complete rebuild and that won’t happen as there’s nowhere to play for two years
@TynesideLife yeah true. I've always been all for a new stadium being built just outside the city centre and keeping St James for youth and women's games and other events. But I know alot of us don't wanna move from SJP which I would rather not do but I also want to see the club go further and we deserve a stadium to fit us all in. And I wouldn't put it past the owners to build one of the world's biggest stadium up here. I think if we can't expand past 60ish thousand we should just build a new stadium
Great idea Eddy, if nothing else it’s a starting point on what we could do. My opinion would be that your idea should be seriously looked at. I also like the idea of Strawberry place fan zone. To be incorporated into Gallowgate with the old original gates being the entrance. Exciting times
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What I think is concentrate on the Gallowgate, initially. Strawberry Place has been purchased back off toad Mikey. Advancements especially in crane technology means they can add 10,000 seats with a second tier - 3 sides all same height, steep and intimidating. The east stand (I actually love brutist architecture as I am a 40 somet from Manchester) - but if it is glass and allows light in, they could make add a corporate tier and maybe some safe standing. I could see it getting to 65k and improving hospitality on the east stand, but not much more capacity there - physical parameters won't allow for it in all honesty. Even so, at 65,000 it would be one of the largest and most intimidating in British club football. That is where I believe the energies should be focussed, that and the training ground.
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Brutalist architecture has it's place for me. I actually don't mind it as a stadium style. The stand is obsolete now owing to its limited capacity and lack of facilities rather than it's architecture per se.
When it was first built it was actually quite an elegant solution. The roof appeared massive without any end screens. Now it looks absurdly small in the context of the other stands. Amazing how times change.
@@sammyb1651 exactly. Maybe a slope similar to City Ground at Forest adjacent to The Strawberry pub with some safe standing could allow a couple more thousand. Either way 65,000 could be achievable using crane technology and lateral thinking.
T. Dan Smith and Newcastle City Council were quick enough to knock down listed buildings in Old Eldon Square and on Blackett Street, when it suited them in the 1970s.
Those were Grade II listed and as I’ve explained, if a wider economic benefit can be evidenced, decisions can be made to demolish.
Leazes Tce is Grade I and I’m reasonably convinced that there wouldn’t be a strong enough case to demolish those. I believe the owners will see Leazes Tce as a big commercial opportunity 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife I wasn't arguing with you. I was just pointing out that local authorities will justify any decision, if it suits them at the time. The term 'wider economic benefit' is purely subjective and potentially open to misuse.
Hoping any expansions plans are considering the most environmentally friendly, as certainly we want our grandchildren to be able to enjoy football as we have?
If the owners just bought the protected building refurbed it into a hotel like you said and knocked down the east stand could they not incorporate it into the structure of the stadium like an extension of the stadium itself?
Incorporating it into a stand would be in conflict with its unique heritage status bud. Sorry
Would be tremendous Eddy if this kind of development came about.....its arguably a akin to Chelsea's ground where they have a hotel? Adjoining? The ground. A development such as the one suggested in your video, takes this part of the city well into the 21st century and beyond?
I always look forward to your balance and insight Graham thank you 🙏
@TynesideLife Hi Eddy 👋 thanks for the reply. A sympathetic transformation where all concerned parties work together for a tangible and true long-term benefits to both our city and NUFC will realise economic prosperity.
Exciting times ahead!
I’ll take a hotel that would be a great idea, but like I said in your last video they’d loose a lot of respect from my end if they knocked it down. That’s a no no from me like.
Definitely won’t be knocking it down 👍🏻
Great idea turning it into a luxury hotel.
Outside area great,apart from NE weather.😂
Onwards and upwards NUFC
Interesting take, I always had a feeling that they would eventually have to rebuild the East Stand, if for no other reason that, as you say, it's 50 years old, and bloomin ugly. I'm sure there's scope to add a few thousand to the capacity through some decent engineering. It definitely needs to be brought into the 21st century whatever happens.
Love your content! (but pls turn up the video volume slightly up :) )
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I like your thinking Eddy! I'd never have thought of a hotel, but it makes sense. A Saudi owner may be happy to sell to the club. With your other video talking about light being an issue, with new design ideas, glass would sort that out. And the whole area being fan oriented, this is surely the way to go.
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Doesn’t matter if he’s happy if he’s told to sell I’m pretty sure he will don’t want to make mbs unhappy
Mirror the façade of the Historic on the facing of the Park East stand Ground level in a way shifting the focus to frame up the walk mall area. pushing out squaring up stands with belt of VIP sky boxes for corporate sponsors the Glass can have Park name and the Angel of the North image..
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Imagine if those Grade Two buildings burned down? Plenty of room then. Naw, don't mean it, I'm just arson about 😆😆
He’s on at the Palladium everyone ☝️😀
Just get rid of that grade 1 listed. it's probably riddled in bad history. It's right the middle east come and wipe out some of our historic buildings like the army has done to them.
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So let me get this right you doubt people with unlimited money could get people to sell there house if the owners decide they really want to do this??😂😂 everyone has a price
The Saudis don’t have unlimited money to spend on NUFC. That’s a limited understanding of our relationship with the PIF.
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surely the answer is to build a new stadium. I bet there are potential sites not far away. Although perhaps close to the main arterials would be a good option.
There definitely won’t be a new stadium Alastair
Smart Idea to incorporate the Grade 1 listed building into the Stadium. Not as daft as ya look pal haha
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To maximise profit for the smallest stand in the stadium they will have to make it corporate
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The football ground should be relocated outside the city.
Never happen Roy
Fantastic research!
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Cracking video eddie. Yee shud be on the board.
Haha! The chronicle are copying me now 😃
The hotel idea was something I mentioned just after the takeover. Everyone I told just laughed at me. I personally think the capacity with the East Stand and Gallowgate expansion when completed could be over 70,000 . I think the Grade 2 listed buildings could be moved to a different part of the city or even Beamish. It wouldn’t be cheap and it would be difficult but it could be done
They should go all out for 90 thousand capacity its possible, imagine the noise
The buildings definitely won’t be moved Peter
@@TynesideLife I’m on about the Grade 2 listed buildings which you were talking about on your previous video. I know the Grade 1 listed buildings will not be moved. I know doing work inside listed buildings can be a nightmare. I saw a television show a few years ago. The people wanted to remove an awful 1970s bathroom from a listed Georgian house. They were told the bathroom was listed because it was already in the property when the building was granted listed status. 🤦♂️
@@peteralderson1483 I was too Peter. I know in exceptional circumstances buildings can be moved but this is rare and because of a critical or culturally significant reason.
If you haven’t seen my previous video, I interview the owner of those Grade II listed buildings.
Even if the above criteria were met, which I’d argue it isn’t, available real estate in Newcastle city centre is negligibly none existent.
There’s more chance of a demolition, but that’ll be a push
I can't see them moving any of the grade 2 listed buildings especially to Beamish,we will just have to wait for relevant reviews and reports to find out concrete solutions to what has been an issue for as long as NUFC 's ground was initially developed. Here's hoping we get a positive solution for the club and for the owners of the said buildings, great podcast , very informative and useful.
I think your in Dreamworld.
What’s your views?
It's simple dont build up but dig down!
Well, you didn’t pass trigonometry at school mate 😅 figure it out…
Anywhere I can see those boulevard illustrations?
Only on my channel I’m afraid. They were drawn up especially
@@TynesideLife Fair enough, feel like that concept would get a lot of people on board with knocking it down tho if they seen it.
@@cmdell4693 could you rephrase that please as I didn’t understand it
move to another area far more easier
Ain’t happening bud
How many seats in the east stand
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You've got a good idea there
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That would be fantastic and would really enhance the area.
That stand needs knocking down and a nice new one put up.
Good content as always! however the owner of the terrace is not Saudi; I believe you refereed him (last video) as from an Indian Heritage
The owner of St James Tce is from a Indian heritage. The owner of Leazes Tce is Saudi 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife Thanks for the clarification Eddy
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