Its been too long since I've seen what's happening with the Allegro, after I ran out of videos to watch and had seen all the Princess vid's up to that point I sort of forgot all about it, so I'm really happy that there's another bunch of vids to catch up on, I find them very interesting and enjoyable so cheers for that.
Great to see the care, attention and thought that went into just the engine mounts. I am puzzled by the economics of you tube. How does liking and subscribing to the late brake show pay for all of this?
Stumbled across your channel this morning & I’ve watched all 6 episodes on the allegro k20 Awesome project & I look forward to seeing some more progress Real informative & interesting videos 👍👌
Love the way everything seems so simple wish there was a few more guys like yourself about in the workshop’s, don’t let the filming side take over who you really are, your so good at what you do if you were my son I’d be so proud of you, well done.
Just a quick one,which is now too late,you can re drill from 4x100 to 5x100 if you use one of the existing holes,near on impossible if 2 different pcd's are present though. Great channel,Mr urch mentioned you in his last video.👍👍😎
These videos are very interesting. I feel like they give a bit of an insight into what goes into developing a car from scratch, and why it costs so much money
Jonny is in my bad books lol. Changing the ride height has put you back a bit, but once again you have done an amazing job. Loving this build and the videos, Adam. I hope you are well, and have a great Christmas.
I missed out on the early history of this project and they aren't available on youtube, but I am really enjoying all the subsequent episodes. Some years ago I helped a friend building kit cars and Lotus 7 'replicas' (actually I only held the spanners) so watching your fabrication skills is fascinating. I managed to get things to hold together with a MIG welder, but your work really shows how pathetic my efforts were.
@@FabCoUKMany thanks. Found the early episodes on Jonny's channel. They don't seem to explain how the project came to you from the previous company, but perhaps I just haven't found that. Best wishes for 2023, and I look forward to watching progress on the projects.
Awesome display of engineering talent. Great to see how things have progressed. Can’t wait for it to be finished so you can get back to the Princess. 👍
Man building aesthetically challenged car is worried about visually displeasing under body framework 😆 Loving the engineering and seeing more progress with this build. The videos are getting slicker too!
Looks nice, i did an engine swap on a 205 once, instead of changing the manifold (shortening it) i decided to go the route of bulk head modification to get more room. I have seen people extending wings also cutting up an old wing to lengthening the pre-existing one very hard to tell its been done (need to ofc lengthen bonnet or panel Infront of window) Few mini engine swaps take this route with flip fronts that are a tiny bit longer. Maybe an option for a few inches if you get stuck. Looking smart though. Cant wait to see it finished, but will miss the updates once it is.
Great work. I'm very much looking forward to the next installment. Do the strut towers still need a bit of curvy tarting up ? Will you be doing any Mini build vids ? I noticed you have one in the shop.
That wheel set up looks sick, can we have a shot with a hub cap😘. Some great content, would rather you explain as you go along (as you do) than you rush the build and we dont know how you've done stuff🤙
Nice to see a Blog on Jonny's but I'd (and I'm sure many other YT fans) want to see some updates on your own projects. Also it would be nice to see any other work you do on customers cars.
You're going to have fun routing the intercooler pipes past the headlights. It might work better if the intercooler was 'upside down', so the pipes come out at the bottom?
Good work bud! Probably too late now, but I believe a mk2 Golf and a 1992-1995 civic share the same wheel bearing ID, possibly a integra of the same era. Could have used a honda hub in 4x100 or 5x114.3 and possibly a stock honda axle of some sort.
29:00 with regards to the steering rack you need to make sure that it is mounted at the right height in order to avoid bump steer. The track rod ends have a 'relationship' with the lower suspension wishbone, you can google this but for the cars that I have worked on I just stuck a B+Q laser onto the brake disk or some other suitable component then jacked the suspension through it range 10mm at a time, the laser can be pointed a sheet of paper a couple of metres in front of the car, you can mark the laser dots every 10mm then join them together, the line should be more or less vertical, if it heads outwards or inwards you have bump steer. (which will TOTALLY ruin the handling!). Maybe you already know about bump steer and have sorted this out, in which case I am teaching you to suck eggs! If not PLEASE look into this, bump steer really does ruin a car's handling! In my opinion the Allegro is and always was a horrible car! (meant in a nice way!) I guess that is why you are making a street sleeper out of one, it will still look sort of 'horrible' but will scare the crap out of of any BMW drivers that 'try it on' Nice one! My mate and I have built a Rover SD1 (not quite as horrible apart from the gold colour!) but with a tuned 4.6 V8 lump, it has took a lot of effort but it puts out 315 BHP that goes through a Cosworth T5 box running Quaife straight cut close ratio gears (tall first gear), it runs a Quaife LSD....BMW drivers don't like this car either!
Good update I found the Punto a better unit for the EPS as it's smaller than the corsa or I have now seen you can ger the little cheat box for the new fiesta so again a lot smaller unit and also cheaper to buy and readily available
The hilarious thing about this Allegro sleeper is that nobody even knows what an Allegro is anymore. I'm over 40 and I vaguely remember them being on the road when I was a kid in the 80s, but now you never see them in the wild so it makes no difference whether you make it into a sleeper or not. I think today something like a Citroen Xsara Picasso might be a better shout but even the early ones of those are getting rare.
@@FabCoUK I think it's a great project. Sticking with front wheel drive and maintaining a fairly normal outside appearance is completely my way of doing things. Don't like it when people mate a shell with parts that are too unrelated to the spirit of the original car... i.e. to the point when the donor vehicle is more dominant within the finished product than the original car.
i think the gearbox mount is causing uou issues as you are trying to use the same mount both sides. If you look at the standard ep3 gearbox mount its a round mount tyrned the other way so takes out a lot of rock and wont matter where it is in relation to the other side
Epic progress. Looks like it's evolving nicely. I'm still a bit concerned the escort rack placed behind the bottom ball joints will give it back to front steering though.
I came here to say the same thing!, With it being mounted behind the axle in the Allegro, and in front of the axle in an escort. Unless it's a left hand drive rack upside down!
The PrincesS had to take a back seat while I got stuck into the Allegro. Unfortunately there are simply not enough hours in the day for two projects at once 😫
Is that's a custom jig? btw loving the car.. when i was young I used to call them a SPUD (because it looks like a potato on wheels) as they were normally a 💩brown colour 😅😆
Love the work & the mass of knowledge you have! I have a k20 turbo in a classic mini running a Hondata ecu and need to get the map looked at. Do you know anyone? I am local ish you you. Tia.
Brilliant- so good to see an Allegro episode again.
Thanks for watching 😬
Now, where's the Princess?
Doing my best!
@@benjaminbennion7349 😂 that was going to be my question
allegro chasing binky around a track, aahhh a man can dream;))
Have nothing but admiration for people that can make the jump from mechanic/engineer to artisan. True craftsman, respect.
Thanks!
Its been too long since I've seen what's happening with the Allegro, after I ran out of videos to watch and had seen all the Princess vid's up to that point I sort of forgot all about it, so I'm really happy that there's another bunch of vids to catch up on, I find them very interesting and enjoyable so cheers for that.
Love this channel, no shouty shouty stuff, just a chap at the top of his game explaining his craft on a great build 👍
Thanks:)
Great to see the care, attention and thought that went into just the engine mounts. I am puzzled by the economics of you tube. How does liking and subscribing to the late brake show pay for all of this?
Stumbled across your channel this morning & I’ve watched all 6 episodes on the allegro k20
Awesome project & I look forward to seeing some more progress
Real informative & interesting videos 👍👌
Thanks!
Love the way everything seems so simple wish there was a few more guys like yourself about in the workshop’s, don’t let the filming side take over who you really are, your so good at what you do if you were my son I’d be so proud of you, well done.
Gorgeous engine mount!
It does this old Engineer's heart good to see you fabbin' up those brackets with such care and attention to detail...lovely.
Awesome work man nuf ball ache but gona be sick
Loving this build. I've always liked the look of the allegro but I'm a weirdo lol. Your work is top notch.
Great work from one person
Thanks! 😁
Just a quick one,which is now too late,you can re drill from 4x100 to 5x100 if you use one of the existing holes,near on impossible if 2 different pcd's are present though.
Great channel,Mr urch mentioned you in his last video.👍👍😎
That ride height looks awesome, gg.
Great work, a lot of fabrication.
These videos are very interesting. I feel like they give a bit of an insight into what goes into developing a car from scratch, and why it costs so much money
Glad you like them!
Jonny! What a palaver!
Jonny is in my bad books lol. Changing the ride height has put you back a bit, but once again you have done an amazing job. Loving this build and the videos, Adam.
I hope you are well, and have a great Christmas.
Meh. You pays your money, your makes your choice.
All parts of the job. No complaints from me
@@GuyChapman Jonny Smith tries not to pay for anything…. No doubt he’s scrounging to the Max on this one….
Personally the original sleeper style would've been my choice, as the only way to make an Allegro look cool is to squash it into a cube.
@@mrfishbulb7187 haha
This was brilliant mate, when you slid the wheel on and all the measuring and jig work came out perfect was class. One very clever chap, well done.
Thanks 🤪
This thing is gonna be sick. Hats off to you mate. Brilliant craftsmanship. Clever man! Well built. You clearly know your stuff!
Totally mad and absolutely love it.👍
Great update guys....
Merry Christmas... and can't wait to see the progress in the new year.
Thanks!😊
I'm just glad to see fabrication is alive and well 👍🏴 your putting the body on the engine, not the engine in the body, it's got my vote 😜🥰
Thanks!
Mind boggling ...and fascinating. You are doing some amazing fabrication work.
Thanks for watching 😊
I missed out on the early history of this project and they aren't available on youtube, but I am really enjoying all the subsequent episodes. Some years ago I helped a friend building kit cars and Lotus 7 'replicas' (actually I only held the spanners) so watching your fabrication skills is fascinating. I managed to get things to hold together with a MIG welder, but your work really shows how pathetic my efforts were.
All the episodes are available on our channel and previous to that on the @thelatebrakeshow
@@FabCoUKMany thanks. Found the early episodes on Jonny's channel. They don't seem to explain how the project came to you from the previous company, but perhaps I just haven't found that. Best wishes for 2023, and I look forward to watching progress on the projects.
Awesome display of engineering talent. Great to see how things have progressed. Can’t wait for it to be finished so you can get back to the Princess. 👍
I've done bits and bobs on the PrincesS, maybe enough for a video. We'll see :D
Amazing job,reminds me of the fun I had building my VR6 landcrab. Regards Andy Belfield
Liked the detail on the engine mounts, particularly the through tubes to prevent crushing / distortion of the box sections
🤓Thanks!
Man building aesthetically challenged car is worried about visually displeasing under body framework 😆 Loving the engineering and seeing more progress with this build. The videos are getting slicker too!
Thanks!
Really pleased to see an update. Your very talented & clearly very passionate about wot u do & I love watching the videos but can we have more plz
Those hubs definitely will fit. It's exactly the same like you said.
Absolutely Amazing Work.. Thankyou for Sharing it with us.
Thanks for watching 😬
Great work bringing this sleeper Allegro together 👍👍
This has to be known as the 'All-aggro' surely.
Fantastic fabrication skills, absolutely love these videos ❤
Thanks :)
Man you are doing a super job the car will look the business in the end.
Fingers crossed :)
So look forward to the Allegro episode updates 😎👍👍❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧
Glad to see an update! Keep going Mr Fab!
Thanks!
Great channel, glad I found it. Brilliant work mate
So pleased that you’re back, there was an emptiness to my life which has now been made good. Hurrraaaahhh 😂
:P
Great up date and nice work on the front tubes. For more strength, u could gusset the corners at the front. Like the idea of the 5 VW stud hub.
Inspiring work! Can’t wait to see it drive
Really enjoying both these videos and Jonny's updates.
Thanks :)
What an incredible amount of alterations you’ve had to do to get this project back on track, blooming brilliant job buddy.
Super impressive results 👌🏻
Thanks!
Rock on Johnnie that thing is what BL should have released when they were partnering up
Very impressive. Looking forward to see it up & running. 10/10. From me.
Thanks 🙂
Nice.. looking forward to the next episode early in the new year.
MST are special 👍🏴
It's coming!
Oh wow, the production of this episode is amazing. Well done Sir. Yes deserve many more subscribers and views.
Thanks!
Great to see the Aggro back. Fantastic work as always and just in time for Christmas 👏👍
Thanks for watching 😬
Thank you, and have a great Christmas, 🍷🍺☕😊
Thanks for watching 😃
That front fitment looks ace
:D
Welcome back! Hope you’re all good, nice to get an Allegro update for Christmas. Cheers, have a good Christmas 😊
Same to you!
Its looking good, always nice to see some updates on the Allegro 👍👍
Thanks for watching :)
Wow.... that’s some nice fabrication work👌🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Thanks!
Yessssss. Nice Christmas present for the fans of this build 😎🤙🏻
You know it!
@@FabCoUK definitely 😎 Have a good Christmas. Hope the next update is sooner than the last sabbatical 😅
Love it!
Very interesting to see how it goes together, amazing job!
Thank you!
Wish I still had mine, it was a two door station wagon that the owner was fed-up of
Awesome work/attention to detail as usual, love this project.
Thanks!😃
I'm still very tempted to buy an Allegro and send it to you! What a project this is!!
You'd do well to find one that didnt need a lot of body resto work first unfortunately :(
@@FabCoUK I've been offered a few the past year. I'm never short on projects or offers of vehicles lo ... there are actually two quite local to me ;-)
However good you think it is structurally, add 100 hours work anyway ;)
Its all coming along great
Looks nice, i did an engine swap on a 205 once, instead of changing the manifold (shortening it) i decided to go the route of bulk head modification to get more room. I have seen people extending wings also cutting up an old wing to lengthening the pre-existing one very hard to tell its been done (need to ofc lengthen bonnet or panel Infront of window) Few mini engine swaps take this route with flip fronts that are a tiny bit longer. Maybe an option for a few inches if you get stuck. Looking smart though. Cant wait to see it finished, but will miss the updates once it is.
I think we'll get away with it :)
I absolutely love this build.
Thanks!
Fantastic job an amazing amount of work
Thanks for watching :)
Great work. I'm very much looking forward to the next installment.
Do the strut towers still need a bit of curvy tarting up ?
Will you be doing any Mini build vids ? I noticed you have one in the shop.
Outstanding work love ever think you’re doing 🫶🏻👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Good things come in HKS boxes!
Overnight from Japan?
Thanks for the update! Merry Xmas!!
Same to you!
The wait was worth it
Thanks!
Hows your project coming along ? Keep up the good work on jonny 's .Have a good Christmas and New year .
And you 👍
Great work happening on this project. Have you checked to see which way the wheels steer with the escort rack?
I thought that too,escort rack controls the steering from in front of the crossmember,unless a lhd one was used and turned upside down.🤔🤔
Amazing video and progress... Happy xmas
That wheel set up looks sick, can we have a shot with a hub cap😘. Some great content, would rather you explain as you go along (as you do) than you rush the build and we dont know how you've done stuff🤙
Brilliant work 👌
Much appreciated
Buggar when you have to redo something that was so well finished? That's going on his bill! Coming along nicely, cant wait for the next video
Thanks:)
A Jonny Lug Nut /Ears production ...
Nice to see a Blog on Jonny's but I'd (and I'm sure many other YT fans) want to see some updates on your own projects.
Also it would be nice to see any other work you do on customers cars.
For sure, the filming/editing really is a job in itself. It’d be great to have more time for it
I'm 50/50 on this build. Half of me is thinking it's a waste of a K20, the other half would love to see an Allegro shred some supercars.
Tens of thousands of k20’s.. we aren’t running out any time soon😝
The more I see, the more I want😍😍
Wow. What an update 👏 .
Keep up the good work. I can't wait to see the next one. 😍
Thank you! 😊
Johnny must be salivating watching this 😂
You're going to have fun routing the intercooler pipes past the headlights. It might work better if the intercooler was 'upside down', so the pipes come out at the bottom?
Plenty of room, the headlights aren’t that deep 😃
Good work bud! Probably too late now, but I believe a mk2 Golf and a 1992-1995 civic share the same wheel bearing ID, possibly a integra of the same era. Could have used a honda hub in 4x100 or 5x114.3 and possibly a stock honda axle of some sort.
Genius 🤩
😄
The Austin All Agro. I remember it well….
The engineering is insane. Hate to think how much this is costing you Jonny 😬
About 10 times what the finished car will be worth!
@@Phiyedough and the rest....!!!
29:00 with regards to the steering rack you need to make sure that it is mounted at the right height in order to avoid bump steer. The track rod ends have a 'relationship' with the lower suspension wishbone, you can google this but for the cars that I have worked on I just stuck a B+Q laser onto the brake disk or some other suitable component then jacked the suspension through it range 10mm at a time, the laser can be pointed a sheet of paper a couple of metres in front of the car, you can mark the laser dots every 10mm then join them together, the line should be more or less vertical, if it heads outwards or inwards you have bump steer. (which will TOTALLY ruin the handling!). Maybe you already know about bump steer and have sorted this out, in which case I am teaching you to suck eggs! If not PLEASE look into this, bump steer really does ruin a car's handling!
In my opinion the Allegro is and always was a horrible car! (meant in a nice way!) I guess that is why you are making a street sleeper out of one, it will still look sort of 'horrible' but will scare the crap out of of any BMW drivers that 'try it on' Nice one! My mate and I have built a Rover SD1 (not quite as horrible apart from the gold colour!) but with a tuned 4.6 V8 lump, it has took a lot of effort but it puts out 315 BHP that goes through a Cosworth T5 box running Quaife straight cut close ratio gears (tall first gear), it runs a Quaife LSD....BMW drivers don't like this car either!
Good update I found the Punto a better unit for the EPS as it's smaller than the corsa or I have now seen you can ger the little cheat box for the new fiesta so again a lot smaller unit and also cheaper to buy and readily available
Awesome 👌
The hilarious thing about this Allegro sleeper is that nobody even knows what an Allegro is anymore. I'm over 40 and I vaguely remember them being on the road when I was a kid in the 80s, but now you never see them in the wild so it makes no difference whether you make it into a sleeper or not. I think today something like a Citroen Xsara Picasso might be a better shout but even the early ones of those are getting rare.
Well at least 40k people know what an Allegro is now haha!
@@FabCoUK I think it's a great project. Sticking with front wheel drive and maintaining a fairly normal outside appearance is completely my way of doing things. Don't like it when people mate a shell with parts that are too unrelated to the spirit of the original car... i.e. to the point when the donor vehicle is more dominant within the finished product than the original car.
i think the gearbox mount is causing uou issues as you are trying to use the same mount both sides. If you look at the standard ep3 gearbox mount its a round mount tyrned the other way so takes out a lot of rock and wont matter where it is in relation to the other side
I started out with FN2 parts which is how I got to what I’m using now. It does the job 😌
The tubing and installing of the intercooler makes me think, will there be enough room for the headlights? I do like your fabrication work :-) 👌
There’s enough room for headlights 🤩
Epic progress. Looks like it's evolving nicely. I'm still a bit concerned the escort rack placed behind the bottom ball joints will give it back to front steering though.
I came here to say the same thing!, With it being mounted behind the axle in the Allegro, and in front of the axle in an escort. Unless it's a left hand drive rack upside down!
@@malcolm8938exactly what I was thinking....
Its flipped!
@@FabCoUK I'm glad about that!👍 Have a good Christmas.
How's the princess coming along? cant wait for an update.
The PrincesS had to take a back seat while I got stuck into the Allegro. Unfortunately there are simply not enough hours in the day for two projects at once 😫
@@FabCoUK Keep up the good work, great to see both projects coming along.
Top work, although I can't help thinking a 'pan swap with a MK1 Audi TT would have been easier.
Definitely wouldn’t have been easier when you consider track width and wheelbase unfortunately
@@FabCoUKI checked about two years ago and wheelbase is virtually identical, track problematic at +6", nothing some clever arches wouldn't sort out!
Is that's a custom jig? btw loving the car.. when i was young I used to call them a SPUD (because it looks like a potato on wheels) as they were normally a 💩brown colour 😅😆
They weren’t called an all-agro for nothing 😂❤
VERY VERY GOOD JOB 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
🤟🏻
hi - the Allegro is looking good - another option from bending pipe is to weld in pre-formed bends that come in quite tight radius
Thanks for watching :)
Love the work & the mass of knowledge you have! I have a k20 turbo in a classic mini running a Hondata ecu and need to get the map looked at. Do you know anyone? I am local ish you you. Tia.
Sorry, can’t help