Wing Chun vs MMA Dojostorm 2 - EPIC MATCHES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- Continuing our coverage of the awesome MMA dojostorm of a Wing Chun dojo that originally happened a few years ago. We have four matches that get better and better as they go on. This is absolutely amazing to see such awesome exchanges of martial arts knowledge between two teams. We learn a variety of lessons about rooting, combos, explosiveness, aggression, etc. when it comes to sparring and fights. Leave your comments and let us know what match was your favorite! Also, part three coverage to come! Original channel in the pinned comments along with part one of our coverage!
Timecodes:
0:00 Match 1
3:10 Match 1 Cool Moments Breakdown
3:34 Match 2
4:42 Match 3
7:27 Match 3 Cool Moments Breakdown
10:48 Match 4
13:40 Match 4 Lessons
13:54 Parting Thoughts
15:09 Musical Outro
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Wing Chun fighter that lasts longer than 30 seconds? Leave it to Jerry to find these rare gems!
Still not as good as Ding Hao lasting 72 secs but impressive skill-wise!
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s ding hao ??? Impressive ??? Yah ... Very impressive for finding all kind of excuses after lose his match ... Exactly as good as his master Yu
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s What? Ding Hao got embarrased lol
@@silentassassin423 He got knocked TF out in 72 seconds by A Hu.
From my experience in TMA, if there's one thing they don't teach you, it's how to 'block' at close range (like against hook and uppers). Most of the time, you're taught how to parry, not block. And as soon as someone breaks that range and gets in your face, you're fucked. (at least in my experience). DW, I patched up that hole now
Yep. We see that in these matches.
My Kenpo instructor said if you ever want to do competitive full contact fighting to do boxing training first to get those close range skills.
@@FightCommentary We've seen them in plenty of matches
Yeah I think a lot of people who practice wing chun become too focused on trying to reach for their opponents arms to prevent the strikes, instead of covering or moving their feet, and doing so puts them at an inherent disadvantage when their opponent is aggressive and throws unpredictable combinations; after a few hard/fast punches are thrown, it becomes virtually impossible to precisely intercept each one and you will almost inevitably wind up getting clocked on the side of the head with your arms straight out in front of you. A lot of TMA people simply don't seem to realize that while the idea of parrying or trapping everyone of your opponent's strikes, in order to allow yourself to counter as you block, seems like a great tactic in theory, it actually demands much faster reflexes and drastically less room for error than more simplistic and broad methods of defending against strikes-- ultimately rendering them impractical.
@@bunklypeppz that's simply because they don't understand the concept nor the practical purposes of bridging. It's like they considered the small puzzle piece as the the entire puzzle itself.
At least the WC guys willing to fight and hopefully learn and adjust. Or just learn Boxing/Muay Thai lol
Accept there were no wing chun in this video. No trace of kung fu they know kick boxing!
@@waterlogga
Wing Chun disappears as soon as real fighting begins, magically.
@@alcii6812 disappear is an inappropriate verb when it never existed. And you wouldn’t know real martial arts if it manhandled you.😂😂😂
This is the trouble with the kind of tappy tappy sparring most traditional martial arts partake in. It gives them experience in timing and moving against an opponent but then they often don’t know how to deliver strikes with real power and have no idea how to cope against a strong and/or sustained attack
It's because when you punch someone in the throat or eye, you don't need to use a lot of power. MMA has no answer to these.
@@andrewthompson10 lol. Ever heard vale tudo aka anything goes. They are mma with nut kick and eye gouge.
@@andrewthompson10 Yes, true.. but taht doesn't mean they can learn to spar without those moves and get used to pressure
@@andrewthompson10 if it’s all about punching throats and jabbing eyes then why does the chain punch exist?
@@andrewthompson10 does tma? Also if you never actually pressure test something in sparring, how do you know how to use it?
First!
And it's at least good to see WC spar and test their skills. That's what all WC masters should do if they want to prove that they can fight, Jerry.
So maybe if Wing Chun keeps sparring and testing and evolving we could see a full contact Wing Chun tournament. Also WC could benefit greatly from gloveless open hand sparring (Ramsey Dewey's videos gave me that idea)
But wouldn't it just evolve into something like kickboxing just with a few unique tweaks to it...I mean there only so many ways to strike, and defend..king fu is unique but let's be real it's not to often you see someone fight with one of these animal forms of kung fu and not breaking from its form and just start regular punching and kicking...
@@jonlong5541 They don't usually spar with people, especially not full contact and definitely not with people from other schools. But I suspect that if they spar enough, they can actually use at least some of that in a real fight. As for kickboxing, well, it's not surprising that everything looks kinda like kickboxing after a while. Maintaining enough non-detrimental uniqueness will allow you to call your martial art something other than just kickboxing, and it might give you an edge over your opponent every now and then.
@@jonlong5541 nope. A palm (and kicks) only sparring/tournament format would be awesome to watch, maybe some limited grappling (as in lap sao techniques) it would already look and feel very different from kick boxing.
@@jonlong5541 Agreed. If any striking TMA evolves based on realistic combat, then it just evolves into kickboxing. It is a waste of time and effort to bother learning a TMA in the first place. Just start out with boxing and then upgrade to kickboxing.
I thought open-handed sparring is pretty common in TMA, at least my school it happens esp when dudes dont have their gear
Wing Chun be like, "Blocking is an illusion."
Which is actually ironic because their arm trapping/bridging were actually designed for blocking, parrying and counter attacks🤦🏾♂️
@@ukoysakabo7310 delusional movement design.
@@thelivingtribunal387 Not delusional. It's good in theory, but no one every properly tests these theories.
@@Aodhan_Raith whats the point invented martial art technique when 70 percent of it are useless in real fight.
@@ukoysakabo7310 I guess no one took punch in their life.
these "style vs style" matchups just prove one thing: When really sparring and fighting, it just looks like either bad boxing or wrestling!! I found this out when I was 13 years old (about 42 years ago) when competing in multi-style tournaments and entered the "sparring" or Kumite event. Wing chun, san shou, preying mantis, shotokan, kyokushin, TKD... it all devolved into a street brawl before the ref broke it up! god bless and train hard!
Yep. It takes a big skill level difference for "flairs" to be able to come out. So if Anderson Silva takes on Jerry (me), he'll use Wing Chun all day and beat me up because his skill level and reaction time are just so much better than me. But when the skill levels are pretty similar, there's going to be very little variation in looks besides "kickboxing + Wrestling and some BJJ"
You saw that with Qi La La. When he took on a very unskilled kickboxer, he used so much kungfu: th-cam.com/video/vXTaPNNVOoo/w-d-xo.html
Wing Chun is the art of blocking punches with your face
While slapping your opponent like a little girl.
Great stuff. thanks for the upload
I ve seen a few of these traditional kung fu vs MMA from your channel and these Wing Chun guys need alot more conditioning. Like explosive energy similar to the fitness level to do a kick up.
Yeah even when they have the upper hand they get gassed out and get lit up by the mma guys.
kip up
I've said this on many videos, but in my WC school we learned the forward facing fak sao. It protects against hooks etc. Step in while elbow shoots straight up and then arm chops straight upward. At distance, you chop to his forearm and in close you chop at his neck. Guarding hand comes up, palm out, to protect the side of the face. It works like a charm and can be rapidly alternated in succession side to side if the opponent is punching wildly.
Its one thing to do it while training with telegraphed punches, its whole another world doing it during a fight or even sparing. I trained Wing Chun/Sanda combo, and during sparring sessions everyone just used sanda 99% of the time. The 1% was an occasional pak sau or lap sau and thats it.
@@DavorBa Wing Chun is not really a fighting style like people think it is. It's better used to enhance other fighting styles. Its main benefit is as a chi gong more than fighting.
@@alouiciousjackson5812 Well I understand that, thats probably why my coach thought it together with Sanda. Just saying, its hard to pull of a technique on a resisting opponent.
@@DavorBa just cuz you suck at it
Lmao, I had a laugh with you losing it with the camera man in the last match. Some very cool moments in the wing chun side, i hope they can keep improving, good stuff. Also that tappity tap thing at the end was lit 🔥
Yeah, thanks man! I got that idea from watching a Chinese talent show. The lady took Anna Kendrick's cup song and applied it to a Chinese song. This is the cup song: th-cam.com/video/cmSbXsFE3l8/w-d-xo.html
@@FightCommentary Nice, the chinese songs you pick for your outros are usually super chill, i really like them.
Great reaction !
I don't like it when the rules try to "equalize" the skill sets.. It takes away too much from the more widely encompassing martial art.. even here, a very big thing about MMA is the inclusion of wrestling and grappling, it is the part of the formula that changes everything about how the practitioner approaches a fight.. take that away then it is just kick-boxing.. A more fair matchup for WC and the rules they come up with would be Muay Thai
And it's ridiculous when they say WC vs MMA when MMA itself is not an art form but rather just a competition ruleset, if you're gonna test any martial against "MMA", that martial art is the one who should conform to the MMA ruleset..
And that's why when when a practitioner of any lineage goes into a combat sports match ... the audience can't actually tell which lineage he was from (just from the moves), not because his particular skills don't work, but because he's conforming to the match rules.
If you ask anyone to "conform to the MMA ruleset", it's the same problem.
So in the end, I feel that matchups where each combatant tries to "visibly express" his/her style, really aren't as meaningful as they sound.
Instead, we should be aiming for an opposite ideal: defeat the opponent before anyone can see what "technique" you used. Afterwards you can claim whatever you want. 💁♂️
@@tranquil_dude
Your reasonings are completely wrong and opposite from what I was aaying.. "MMA being just kick boxing in this match " is because MMA is pretty much just kick boxing plus wrestling and grappling... Here, the thing is, the inclusion of wrestling and grappling into kicking boxing is the main thing that made MMA what it is... If you take that away, it's no different than challenging a kick boxer (also, I'll make this clear, MMA is not a diatinct artform, it's just a ruleset where you are allowed to kick, box, elbow, knee, wrestle and grapple. that's just it.. there is no mma punch, or mma kick, or mma takedown etc)..
With these east asian traditional martial arts stuff, whenever you see a guy in an mma or muay thai or boxing match, the moment he started getting hit, he suddenly starts acting like a poorly trained kickboxer or a poorly trained boxer.. it's not a difference in ruleset, it just show ultimate poor training.. A pure boxer going into an mma match still looks like a boxer, a pure muay thai fighter going into mma match still looks like a pure muay thai fighter (they may win, they may loose, but they don't loose the entirety of their form just because the rules are different, i have seen it with my own eyes). I know this too well, so your reasonings are wrong my brother.
@@fela001 “ I know this too well, so your reasonings are wrong my brother.”
... well, if you say so. 👌
I'm sure you've done enough of every martial art to judge what each art's "form" is supposed to be like in combat.
Would be great if you can share all that knowledge and experience in your channel.
@@tranquil_dude I've done my fair share of traditional martial arts and western martial arts. I also have done a lot of research over 10 - 15 years. I've done enough to know. I'm not bringing down traditional martial arts itself, but the general mentality with which they are practiced and followed
@@fela001 Again ... if you say so 👌
I was training 5 years Ving Tsun and three years ago I began to train boxing and last year Muay Thai. Well I think that Boxing or Muay Thai are really a lot more realistic than VT for a fight. Even if grappling is an advantage in VT against boxing, a Muay Thai fighter will just destroy in the close quarters a VT fighter.
Probably I was learning with a bunch of Manga freaks and their level in VT was not really high and it was more about having fun that fighting, but trying to be objective and honest, I see it like this.
It just like saying, it is easier to learn grappling than striking, because grappling is much more easier to master. Then you said striking unrealistic, just like Gracie family
@@malakatan3235 What??? Striking techniques are easier than grappling techniques. Grappling requires more technical skill than striking. And there is more material in the basics of grappling than striking. However, the skill of grappling is safer to perfect than the skill of striking. Striking is more dangerous to master than grappling.
@@perfectsplit5515 You can just grab after a few months, but you need to learn how to punch & kick correctly
@@malakatan3235 When Ronda Rousey executes her jije-gatame armbars, that takes a lot more technical skill than Vitor Belfort pounding someone to get a knockout.
@@perfectsplit5515 Just see new students to martial arts, the grapplers is more faster ready to fight than strikers. Grappling is just easier to learn
Peace my brother
Another good video
Cool stuff :)
Your outros are great
Nice Fight for this fight!!!
Love how your brain played random association with Wing Chun and the Trung sisters (Hai Ba Trung). If I hadn't just subscribed already, I'd do it again. :D
Omg that little outro was so cute!
Wing Chun vs Judo would be hilarious
I'm pretty sure there are some. I'll take a look!
@@FightCommentary I am gonna laugh a lot aren't I
we pretty much saw that when Xu fought Ding Hao and tossed him around
dope musical outro
Camera guy was killing me. Lots of good footage of the backs of people's heads.
The problem with this WC guys is that the ones that do well, barely use wing chun.
I've said it many times: The most damning thing about traditional martial arts is that absolutely every single time a traditional martial arts who knows that they're doing gets into a fight, they cease to use any traditional martial arts and instead start to move and strike like a boxer. Because that works and traditional martial arts don't.
Even if they might still throw in some techniques from their signature style, not once ever have I seen someone successfully use traditional martial arts on a fight. What they do instead is take a modern fighting style that actually works (e.g. boxing or kickboxing) and graft their techniques onto it; at which point it's no longer Wing Chun. It's now MMA.
Nice song. More about it plz.
This is what wing chun needs to stay relevant, more full contact. All the technical training in the world can’t prepare you for a full blast punch or kick to the face.
So jerry, what would you say, in your opinion, would be the most effective style for everyday self defense?
Im thinking an mma type background with elements in boxing, muay thai, and juijutsu make for the best coverage in actual self defense. I do have a little experience in kenpo and krav maga, but my health doesnt allow me to use the hi stamina, hi mobility techniques now.
Great video.
Oh man, one of those hard questions. So much to take into account, including situational awareness, laws of the place, verbal de-escalation, etc. If verbal de-escalation fails, then I think great cardio coupled with great parkour skills, and if engagement is absolutely needed, some boxing and kickboxing with some judo or wrestling to escape any grappling as quick as possible. For your situation, since you mention not so high stamina, I'll have to think about it more. CCW, but that's not always possible, of course.
@@FightCommentary i agree that physical confrontation should always be last resort. And ccw is possible where im at in some situations, but there are still a lot of restrictive areas that i cant avoid. I feel fairly well covered with the training i have (of course training is always necessary) but i just thought id get your thoughts. Thank you.
I can see the coordination. WC guy definitely needs to be a bit more aggressive, his defense was close to what I expected it to be on regards to hand and feet movement. He also showed some decent counters, especially after the leg catch
A+ for the singing at the end.
今天的 OUTRO 很精彩 多来点~！！
Looks like it worked!
it would be nice if we had more info about the schools.what lineage the wing hcun guys are and what arts the mma gym is including to their curriculum
This is why hard sparring is a must. A little heat in the chin and these kids started to lose their shii
If this was an actual MMA match, Wing Chun loses in under a minute.
Yeah, that's a given.
I used to pound my Wing Chun buddies back in the day, but that was all boxing. Once the UFC put BJJ in the spotlight, I didn't have much more going for me than the Wing Chunsters. I just had a better chance of maybe bruising something before the grappler had be doing my best turtle impression on my back.n😄
Any one style will lose against mma so your comment is pointless
@@williamwest7008 it's not pointless because title says MMA vs Wing Chun 🖕
@@mochigb621 The video is also pointless for the same reason I mentioned.
Nah don't worry about the body gear.... You wear what ever style of fight gear you are. MMA dress like MMA, Wing Chun dress like Wing Chun and etc for any other style. Body don't mean anything as you can clearly see who's winning but Wing Chun guys are backing up their words and actually fighting these MMA fighters.
Just like Mike Tyson said.....It's the energy you put into a fight style.
These wing Chun fighters are actually beasts....just alot more actual fights and sparing against themselves and other types of fights styles just like in this video here🥊🥋✊🏾 Good job to all and the love for Fighting.
Watch part 1 if you missed it!
What ever happened to your FMA Yaw Yan review?
Creds for putting wing to the test
This series was probably taken place at 廣東湛江市 in the 陳老師詠(咏)春館
I hate sparring with body pads.
Tried it a couple of times. Really restricted my movements, and hindered my hip twist when going for higher kicks..
not sure if there are wing chun tech in there... hope you point out some of the technique in the video...
Funny how "dojo storming" is disrespectful when it's done to the mma community, but it's really cool in their eyes when they do it. Not cutting either dojo or style down, just noticing some inconsistencies.
Martial Art comes to show. MMA comes to fight. It's a question of conditioning and practice. One side learn the form (art). The other side learn actual combat.
I saw that foot jab
I don´t understand why these wing chun guys don´t use their kwan sau to cover like we see in the applied wing chun family and don´t put their hands up to block the punches...
Because those kwan sau not working duh 🤣
Honestly if they are bad or not is irrelevant at the moment because testing yourself will either make you quit or improve and the lattest is always a good thing!
5:23 no I haven't played cs go but 1.6 was my childhood
played CS 20 years ago
the 1st MMA guy punch super hard,
holyshit...
Why wing chun guy stance is sideways ?
the wing chun guy's stance is not bad it is more effective but it doesn't punch which evidences that the punches need to be improved, as jeet kune do's punch could be easier to use
I double dare mma to challenge all other martial school and put on video. Double dare ya
Ok jerry it's time for some real Aikido or Dim Mak master videos..I think those are the last 2 major martial arts that we need to see proof of their effectiveness
I'll do some searching. I need to do a Master Ken review, so I'm sure my review/react of Master Ken will generate some no touch dim mak stuff.
yes.. an akido guy vs a dim mak guy.
@@kaneda956 epic...what the hell would that look like..I think Aikido wins..
4 the all consuming Al-Gore Ruthenium
Damn how many guys he fought againts wing chun clan ?
The head gear saved the first wing Chun guy
Very true!
I just wanne point out that mma is like 50/50 striking and grappling so if they win standing they basicly only use 50% of their skills. Maybe even less if they cant clinch up or throw elbows.
Skilled wing chun vs unskilled mma = scrap
Skilled mma vs skilled wing chun = 30sec
Skilled mma vs unskilled wing chun = 10sec
The lat WC need some training from qi lala
Landscape vs. Portrait
Yea!!!
Wow the WC guys are wearing anythging but a riot shield.
Wing chun guys are wearing body armour.!!!
Haiyaa, wing chun needs body armor and shoes to spar with others
Yeah, I wish I noticed the shoes in the first video I did. If I were MMA team, I would have worn shoes too.
First Yellow shirt wing chun had zero head movement.
Dk stoooooooorrrrrmmmm
What’s with the side-on stance? That is very un Wing Chun-like.
I think certain non Ip Man Wing Chun styles do that. But correct me chunners if I'm incorrect about this.
@@FightCommentary Ip had five or six students who all trademarked different things like crazy after he died. It's anyone's guess why we do things differently, but "Ip Man Wing Chun" is less unilateral than you'd think. I as a Moyat guy am going to look different and focus different things than a Leung Sheung guy, etc. To say nothing of Northern non-Ip styles which favor bigger, shaolin-esque movements and bladed stances.
MMA guy was going full force here while Wing Chun guys didn't.
This is more of a referee flaw he has to see that both fighters are on the same page.
But the referee here looked like a MMA guy.
As a referee I would have told the Wing Chun guys "Hey wake up this is full force get real".
Hey Jerry! Curious to know if you'd be able to do a breakdown on this light sparring session by Jeff Chan and a guy who seems to blend MMA with WC? I have a feeling that perhaps a breakdown may not be that feasible since it's someone else's content (Jeff Chan), but figured I'd ask in case there's a possibility. Thanks in advance, Jerry! Link: th-cam.com/video/IZvRx1NJqDw/w-d-xo.html
That's Victor, the organizer of King of Dragons Championship! That's so cool to see him spar Jeff Chan!
@@FightCommentary Oh wow, that's interesting! Had to look up what that was, but good to know--always learning neat things from you and your channel, Jerry!
Im confused. Jeff Chan uses WC? I've never ever seen him use WC. Maybe you are assuming he does because he's chinese? Am I wrong?
@@henryposadas3309 No, there's a video of Jeff with a sparring partner that uses WC in the video. The partner, Victor, is the one that uses WC.
So weird… Altough I’m doing BJJ and Muy Thai nowadays I did practise Wing Chun for a few months long time ago… But I can’t see any of it in this video, like those guys had no idea on what the WIng Chun fighting stance is supposed to be and how to guard or throw a punch WC style.
His Wing Chun looks a little more like JKD.
Frankly, the only reason these MMA guys beat these WC guys is the Physical and Mental conditioning.
Looking at the WC guys in the background, those are children and pretty ordinary looking guys who don't really physically condition for a fight.
This was a fight between people who train to fight, and casual martial artists, and considering they aren't trained fighters, WC guys did surprisingly well.
You film like my wife. Landscape or nothing.
HAHAHAHA :)
Wing chun guy took shots like a champ
As wing chun practitioner, all those wing chun fighters make me soooo angry and ashamed of wing chun.... They keep themselves too much into the traditional art, but we are no longer in the 50's... Fighting has evolved
Quit wang chun and learn muay thai
@@vuquanghuy5298 don't like muay Thai, already tried
@@clementleproust7844 lol. May be you can cut it for real world of brutal martial art 🤣
@@vuquanghuy5298 what is that supposed to mean ?
@@clementleproust7844 Try Sanda
Can’t survive the storm
I see a lot of wing chun actually. I bet if you feed an AI a bunch of videos of wing chun vs boxing/muay thai/mma matches, it's going to think wing chun is the art of punch opponent's fist with your face.
Lots of actual Wing Chun in this one, though the Wing Chun guys on average are obviously not as seasoned as the MMA guys. Much better than the last example. Overall, not the greatest representation of Wing Chun techniques. Wing Chun's value to MMA is in 2 unique attributes: obsessively ambidextrous footwork and clinch sensitivity. These guys have practiced lots of Wing Chun techniques, but their fight IQ is pretty low so they couldn't apply either of those things well yet.
excellent comment. This is exactly what I was thinking. The MMA guys seemed to have better range control and stay calmer under pressure...obviously from sparring more.
Notice how no Wing Chun guys actually use Wing Chun when they have to fight for real...
If you're not going forward it's not Wing Chun. Wing Chun at a distance is ineffective. Wing Chun counter punching is ineffective. The Wing Chun practitioner will always be chasing the opponent when counter punching without forward pressure. Wing Chun is up close and always offensive. Never defensive minded first. Using jabs or single shots waiting on the opponent to strike back and counter will never work for Wing Chun vs boxing, kick boxing, Muay Thai, etc.
Yeah the last one was the only one trying to apply the principles, he was still pretty sloppy but at least he tried playing to its strengths
Fight Commentary Breakdowns..
you're a fan of Xu Xiaodong why he did not enter the ring to fight the fighter of MMA which is real??
why only fight the trainer Wing chun does not practice as MMA..
Of course no style can change to kick boxing an still call it Kung fu so yes you can say there is no wing chun, how com I take taichi to MMA dojo’s and they can’t handle sticky hands? Even when I put the gloves on?
More like boxing (rather than mma) vs wing chun. The "mma" guys didn't throw a single kick, nor threatened a single takedown.
Funny how NO Wing Chun guy EVER uses the actual stance smh
Mmmm... If they keep going in this direction, they will end up adapting kick boxing = the wingchun practicioners or mma. :)
One combo, which I think may work well for them is how bill superfoot Wallace fights - the interview by the karate nerd
th-cam.com/video/jb4ZJUaVGJc/w-d-xo.html
I love Superfoot Wallace!
@@FightCommentary yes, :) some wing Chun in your vid did the front combos, it can work if they do his side way of fighting.
But I'm not sure if they do grappling. I have not yet seen ppl do side way stance in grappling.
But if the wing Chun adapts this, they'd become mixed martial arts.
I do believe if you want to fight in the ring, you got to adapt and practice the best techniques repeatedly. That will filter a lot of sticky hands
İ am looking out of the box.
Boxing trains their punches to punch bag. And hours and hours. İnternal rotation. in our age Tho internal rotation is the strongest function of human. The most basic training is Bench press you can understand it from this
But on the other hand. Wingchun guy never ever train strenghten their blocks. So external rotation. External rotation is already the weakest function of us and they just dont train. They also never strenghten their legs and they cannot hold strong. And of course they dont compete each other test their skill
Result, MMA guy punches with their aproximately 200 pound of internal rotation power and wing chun guy try to resist and reach with 2kg of external rotation function of arm. And MMA guy stand strong with strong legs but wingchun guy falls with even spitting almost
Very interesting!
I can see anything because of cameraman was so bad
Cameraman fails
Wing Chung guys looked so unprepared to b hit,and when they got clipped they either stopped or ref stopped the exchange ,real fighting must involve learning how take a punch over and over in a real sense ( not light tippy tap sparring) plus head and body gear is not full contact. Compared to Boxing, Muitaikickboxing. Wrestling etc, many true traditional pure style s are very inferior methods of learning to really fight.
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着黃衫的少
着黃衫的少年根本不會打詠春拳，膽小，怕死，怕彼人打，唔敢打人，完全都不應該係詠春拳中應該有的。
These soft-AF Wing Chung guys need all that protective gear, good night!. No clinch, no ground, break on contact = BS Wing Chung rules.
Totally agree and good point. I don't give credit to that aggressive wing chun guy doing the "bum rush". That wasn't a demonstration of skill when he's throwing uncontrolled haymakers, and getting pummeled in the face repeatedly in the process. About the only credit I can give him is he has a good jaw.
Even ground grappling aside, the MMA guy isn't even allowed to use stand up clinching and dirty boxing or else that aggressive wing chun guy would have thought twice about doing the bum rush.
What appears to be a "no clinching" rule is also a disservice to the wing chun guys and their own self denial of their style. Trapping is a form of clinching and a major concept in wing chun so that seems to tell me that they are not confident in their style if they are disallowing the clinch and trapping in the process.
I mean the proctective head gear has nothing to so with wing chun we just trying to avoid brain damage
@@crackhead3511 Agree. Maybe that's because the wing chun guy has not sparred regularly before with shots to the head allowed so the head gear is uncomfortable esp as it reduces your peripheral vision. But then wing chun is supposed to be tactile. That is to say in theory the advantage is supposed to be that once the wing chun guy is able to make some kind of contact with the opponent then he is supposed to be able to cling or stick to you, control your attacks by controlling your limbs through trapping. But it's all theory and doesn't take into account that the probability of doing all that is greatly reduced when the opponent can move and control the range. Once the opponent can use distance and movement hen the wing chun goes out the window.
Win chun???
La calidad del video es malisima.
Só Common these legacy martial artists quit by touching a part of the body and claiming pain lol.
Кто тут вин чун?
I must say that after training Wing Chun for years it isnt very effective in reality.
Stick with boxing and judo.
That's not a Wing Chun practitioner...
Of course, Wing Chun is inferior.
It doesn't matter which martial art you use. All it matter is how much real life experience you have!
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Bullshit
@@Bartron_Flat_Earth you're bullshit
@@iamfromasean705 nah ,you are
@@jaygin6518 nope you are