I only discovered the Mc Dean storyline on you tube and boy i am so glad i did ! JS & GB gave flawless performances, a pleaure to watch. Thanks for uploading.
I only started watching HO in 2010, so I missed out on all this. But after watching the entire John Paul and Craig storyline, I can safely say that this is, hands down, the greatest storyline to ever be on a soap opera. Without a doubt.
Hollyoaks failed attempt at making another gay couple is in absolute turmoil. Notthing can amount to how amazingly bonded JP and Craig are. The chemistry between them is just, wow. Brendan and Ste? NO WAY
I am a big Mcdean fan and i just feel like jp and craig had way more chemistry between them than any of the guys jp ever dated. Even mchay doesnt have this much chemistry.
i am not a fan of any of john paul love stories yet , i watched ste and brendan story first, than ste and doug , and then ste and john paul ,there i fell for john character and thought to see john and craig story but man what chemistry your talking i don't get it they never have any special moment like kieron and john have they never been together for long , craig never shown as a likeable character on the contrary he's Portrait as a arrogant peron, first he's shown as manipulative two timer who want to have his cake and eat it too ,then they got together baam!! they are going to dublin now he's back and claim he's change but goes after someone else man and again left for dublin , they never had the enough time to get evolve as a couple. only ste is the only gay character in hollyoaks that i can say that have enough time and storyline with all his lovers .
well i started watching craig and jp story ever since they met in that class room. They were friends before becoming lovers. Craig was arrogant, manipulative and all that but jp loved him all the more. Craig came back and jp slept with him and he was ready to call it quits with kieron only for him to die. jp did not love kieron as much as he loved craig. He even said it last year that after craig he never thought he could find love again. If u had watched the story like i did u would know what im talking about.
Anne Greene buddy , i never said that john paul didn't loved craig or he loved kieron more , i talked about chemistry ,i talked about screen time as couple, romantic moments and all that . craig was never been a likeable character ,well atleast not since he get involve with john till the end and you know what happened after this sunset ending , i will call it karma !! lol !! i can me mean , hahah... , but hey!! did you notice how john paul change from being a strong character standing up for craig against that bully valentine to not owning up to his felling to tell the truth to kieron and you know the rest(teacher thing in hollyoaks) . ps:you said he loved craig most , i agree but you can't deny that kieron loved him most !! oh!! you wrote "He even said it last year that after craig he never thought he could find love again " mean he said these words to ste ?? well i don't remember all the dialogues from the show but man he must have meant after craig left him in dubiln . remember his love life craig then kieron then again craig , he must meant his later relationship with craig , please !! i know you are mcdean fan but treat kieron and his relation as insignificant .
Anne Greene oh!! and i said in some comments earlier i think , i wish john and craig had more couple moments so you know , i can like them as a couples and get satisfaction or justification about kieron and john breakup . because now there will a big hole in my heart whenever i watch john paul and ste story .
I keep coming back to wath this. This is so perfect. :) I cried when JP left Craig at the airport the first time around, so watching this is so good. I know this is just a soap opera, but you can´t tell me that you people haven´t felt the same.
Now that I'm doing watching the entire JP+Craig storyline, I actually feel quite hollow now that I'm done watching these videos, and I have to go back to watching the latest episodes. Like there's something missing... :(
Geat video, thank you for putting them here. For me it was one of the most dramatic and emotional (and very good acting) storylines about the love between two guys I have ever seen on a soap. I know it is just a soap, and after that you move on. But every time I think about them, it still gets to me. What is the song when JP arrives at the train station?
I love the line, " the one thing that I do know, that I'm sure of, is that I really love you"!! So glad it was a happy ending for john paul and craig, unlike for poor jack and ennis from brokeback mountain :-(
When this aired, and just watching it now, I seriously wanted to blubber uncontrollably. After like two years of wanting them together and remembering, gawd, a year ago, everything that went on...AHAHAHA IT MAKES ME HAPPY. :)
they are safe now, from soap gods, sisters, mothers, psycos and priest. i am happy for them and in my heart they live forever in love and together. while i miss them so much i can't breathe, i am glad that they ended like this, i get so tired of seeing the bad endings. I love that they are together. Guy and James did an amazing job and they should move on to new things. I wish them all the luck in the world. BUT i miss them sooooo much. *sighs*
Everyone should have a happy ending like this. These guys know everything about each other, good & bad, and accept each other. Now they are going to build a life together, just like a marriage. A formula that has worked since the begining - meet, date for a good while (2 years minimum), marry.
They were still together. JP was in Dublin with Craig, but we never got to see how Niall got him. Recently, Frankie was seeing her family photo album and there was a picture of JP and Craig, so we can only assume they´re still together.
Both James and Guy did come back for seperate brief stints; James reprised his role for the church explosion and Guy reprised his role in Hollyoaks Later. But apart from that, I think they're done. No actor wants to be typecast, after all.
Craig is totatlly gorgeous John-Paul best looking boyfriend even better looking than John-Paul new love interest George no man is as right for John-Paul as Craig is i still think Mcdean are end game
@smileygirl301 I'm sorry but their story ends here. There were one or two mentions of them, but no one visited the show again. It's a pitty, cos they were the cuttest. It seems like they are still together off screen. We can only imagine what their life in Dublin could be...
What is the last word Craig said? I understood, "When we get to Dublin, if anyone asks, you're my cousin Steve. Everyone thinks I'm straight". And John Paul's "What" was easy to make out, but that last word with the music and the train noise was unintelligible to me. Thank you.
Oh...cos he was kidnapped by Niall who wanted revange from his family. The Mcqueens, except Tina, survived a Church explosion. That´s why JP is all bruise. Craig does not appear in this episodes.
Does anyone know if they are gonna show one more final final episode of john paul and craig. That they return to holly oaks together one more time or something. how did the story really ends?
just a little confussed, if this happened on 19 of september how come on 20 of october jp is saing goodbye to his family??? watch this vid... Hollyoaks - John Paul McQueen - 20 October 2008
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy I know what your saying and I do mostly agree with you. I ain't proud of myself because I hated ste when he was with amy cos of what he was doing to her but now the tables are turned and yet some sick part of me wants them to work it out and believe me it's ridicilous that I can possible feel this way. I actually couldn't stand brendan (or mitzeee) when they were first on HO but now I think they are some of my favourites now. As for the 'stashe' I don't mind it at all
themax1559 Pretty late, but better late than never! :D Here you go: www.dailymotion.com/video/xoe02x_hollyoaks-john-paul-and-craig-19th-september-2008-part-1_lifestyle
I've seen this video a few times, and I just have to say it cause its pissing me off. The train stattion at the end is Liverpool South Parkway, from which you would get a bus to the airport.... Could they not have chosen a station that wasn't in fact at the airport to record it?!? Aaah, that was driving me mad!
I said 'partially', lol but yeah, possibilities are amazing. I kissed my first guy in September, together for two months, now its weird, buts thats another story and this is in public. so =P
@VariahR For me who isn't a massive stendan fan I would only like to see them in a 'healthy relationship' for a while cos I like brendan but as for a happy ending, it just wouldn't be realistic. I don't think it's just about them being gay cos hey ste and noah would be liked. It's just that they do have this chemistry between them on screen (IMO) and that is why some people ship them despite it being utter madness because I don't believe many people shipped amy/ste whe he was abusing her
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy Ok I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. I don't think that HO have fail with their new(ish) gay couple of ste and brendan. The thing with Craig and John Paul was theirs was a story about true love plus they were young boys discovering who they really were. With ste and brendan it's different because of brendan and how ste took to being gay plus it's way darker and more disturbing. I don't think they are meant to be about being soulmates but they do have great chemistry.
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy I haven't given up on HO completely but it so not good on the show any more. Too many newbies who just don't cut it. Ridicilous sls and no consistence in any of their stories/plots. It really needs a good shake up and as much as I don't wanna see anyone out of a job, they need to cut some of the cast. I do fear for the actual programme and am not sure how long it will last if it doesn't start to pull in a decent audience like over a million regularly on the 6.30 show
@CJPDeQueen I know the storylines are pretty different, considering Brendan and Ste are based on abuse and JPC was the sexuality confusion, but I just personally don't think it works. I mean, kudos to HO for trying to get the message across that there is gay couples out there that suffer from violent abuse, but I just don't think it works. Ste prancing around like a fairy then whacking Brendan with a baseball bat seems completely out of the blue. I guess Emmet and Kieron do have chemistry with
It's really just an expression...like 'endgame' or 'ultimate' At least, that's the best way I can describe it...sorry, that was kinda lame, I know, lol.
The ending is so ridiculous. Why the producer need to let Kieron die? Coz JP and Craig still are together no mater what. I don't like it. JP said he loves Kieron, but he can get through it so fast, he chased after Craig immediately... Poor Kieron.
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy Hun, the stendan fans want them to have a happy ending cos they're gays. They dig gay scenes. Period. Were they a man and a woman they would want them apart.
@CJPDeQueen Brendan reminds me too much of a 60's villain, gelled hair and the stache. The stache, it just twitches everytime he speaks *shudders* Ergo : Not a big fan of to much facial hair. That was really out of the blue, but yeah lol. I've given up on HO anyway now, Storylines don't interest me at all and there are way to many new characters. Apparently birng 'new faces' into the show improves it. I think not.
The way this ended is just wrong... really hated it... so all those time he said to Keiron that he loved him were fake? Really..... couldn't have ended worse....
Stop feeling sorry for yourself because at the end of the day like I said Craig was with Sarah stop forcing him cos to me fair enough you have feelings or you caught feelings for him basically to me you're forcing him to do something that is not ready to do an a guy that is willing to give up everything for you you want to put Kieran hold for a guy that is in a relationship already listen you get a grip on yourself and go and find somebody who's not in a relationship I stop forcing the guy to be with you only because what you're feeling sorry for yourself your best life forcing Craig to be with you that's what you're doing you're forcing him to make a choice that is not ready to make Kieran wants you why you want to kiss him their kissing here have sex with him they have now darling Craig is not ready to make that decision and if you love yourself and respect yourself as a gay man then you should understand stop forcing someone to be with you if they're not ready to come out there just not ready to come out. So you was willing to put a next Man on hold and now your best the saying why you should put your life on hold for Craig but you was willing to put Kieran on hold to you makeup your mind it's an I don't feel sorry for someone like that you are willing to put a next Man on hold until if or if you wanted to be with him you are willing to put q and on hold so Craig not saying bye to you is probably a good thing darling stop feeling sorry for yourself and go and find somebody who is not in a relationship because to me our own looks like you are forcing him to make a decision that is not ready to make so have a little bit of self respect you understand
Thanks for sharing. What a joy!
From Australia
I only discovered the Mc Dean storyline on you tube and boy i am so glad i did ! JS & GB gave flawless performances, a pleaure to watch. Thanks for uploading.
I only started watching HO in 2010, so I missed out on all this. But after watching the entire John Paul and Craig storyline, I can safely say that this is, hands down, the greatest storyline to ever be on a soap opera. Without a doubt.
This show os great thanks to the actors that all made an amazing job thanks to the writers for writing them this way
and to you for uploading
I saw this clip when it first came out and i still enjoy watching it...sooooo cute!!
okies, i loved kieron and swore to myself that i would hate this...but i just couldn't. it was pretty sweet and i am actually quite happy. =)
Hollyoaks failed attempt at making another gay couple is in absolute turmoil. Notthing can amount to how amazingly bonded JP and Craig are. The chemistry between them is just, wow. Brendan and Ste? NO WAY
OMG, thank you for posting this and the others. I have fallen in love with John Paul and Craig because of you.
I love you McDean 😍 always and forever
i will always miss them always, one of the greatest love stories ever told, ever. IMHO anyway.
I am a big Mcdean fan and i just feel like jp and craig had way more chemistry between them than any of the guys jp ever dated. Even mchay doesnt have this much chemistry.
i am not a fan of any of john paul love stories yet , i watched ste and brendan story first, than ste and doug , and then ste and john paul ,there i fell for john character and thought to see john and craig story but man what chemistry your talking i don't get it they never have any special moment like kieron and john have they never been together for long , craig never shown as a likeable character on the contrary he's Portrait as a arrogant peron, first he's shown as manipulative two timer who want to have his cake and eat it too ,then they got together baam!! they are going to dublin now he's back and claim he's change but goes after someone else man and again left for dublin , they never had the enough time to get evolve as a couple. only ste is the only gay character in hollyoaks that i can say that have enough time and storyline with all his lovers .
well i started watching craig and jp story ever since they met in that class room. They were friends before becoming lovers. Craig was arrogant, manipulative and all that but jp loved him all the more. Craig came back and jp slept with him and he was ready to call it quits with kieron only for him to die. jp did not love kieron as much as he loved craig. He even said it last year that after craig he never thought he could find love again. If u had watched the story like i did u would know what im talking about.
Anne Greene buddy , i never said that john paul didn't loved craig or he loved kieron more , i talked about chemistry ,i talked about screen time as couple, romantic moments and all that . craig was never been a likeable character ,well atleast not since he get involve with john till the end and you know what happened after this sunset ending , i will call it karma !! lol !! i can me mean , hahah... ,
but hey!! did you notice how john paul change from being a strong character standing up for craig against that bully valentine to not owning up to his felling to tell the truth to kieron and you know the rest(teacher thing in hollyoaks) .
ps:you said he loved craig most , i agree but you can't deny that kieron loved him most !!
oh!! you wrote "He even said it last year that after craig he never thought he could find love again " mean he said these words to ste ?? well i don't remember all the dialogues from the show but man he must have meant after craig left him in dubiln . remember his love life craig then kieron then again craig , he must meant his later relationship with craig , please !! i know you are mcdean fan but treat kieron and his relation as insignificant .
Anne Greene oh!! and i said in some comments earlier i think , i wish john and craig had more couple moments so you know , i can like them as a couples and get satisfaction or justification about kieron and john breakup . because now there will a big hole in my heart whenever i watch john paul and ste story .
Sunset Ending, FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was just SO perfect! Best. Couple. Ever.
Amazing final episode for the boys, loved it!!
I keep coming back to wath this. This is so perfect. :) I cried when JP left Craig at the airport the first time around, so watching this is so good.
I know this is just a soap opera, but you can´t tell me that you people haven´t felt the same.
i love love love love love love love love love love love love love this episode!! "Why wouldn't ya!" woah. =)
Now that I'm doing watching the entire JP+Craig storyline, I actually feel quite hollow now that I'm done watching these videos, and I have to go back to watching the latest episodes.
Like there's something missing... :(
Thank you:-)
Geat video, thank you for putting them here.
For me it was one of the most dramatic and emotional (and very good acting) storylines about the love between two guys I have ever seen on a soap.
I know it is just a soap, and after that you move on. But every time I think about them, it still gets to me.
What is the song when JP arrives at the train station?
This is a bittersweet moment. *sigh*
Craig is gorgeous here..lol
i agree!! :) that was a wonderful ending and a good storyline!
I love the line, " the one thing that I do know, that I'm sure of, is that I really love you"!! So glad it was a happy ending for john paul and craig, unlike for poor jack and ennis from brokeback mountain :-(
Lovely!
When this aired, and just watching it now, I seriously wanted to blubber uncontrollably. After like two years of wanting them together and remembering, gawd, a year ago, everything that went on...AHAHAHA IT MAKES ME HAPPY. :)
they are safe now, from soap gods, sisters, mothers, psycos and priest. i am happy for them and in my heart they live forever in love and together. while i miss them so much i can't breathe, i am glad that they ended like this, i get so tired of seeing the bad endings. I love that they are together. Guy and James did an amazing job and they should move on to new things. I wish them all the luck in the world. BUT i miss them sooooo much. *sighs*
Everyone should have a happy ending like this. These guys know everything about each other, good & bad, and accept each other. Now they are going to build a life together, just like a marriage. A formula that has worked since the begining - meet, date for a good while (2 years minimum), marry.
i love craigs face at the end after all JP says and he is just like "what?" lol his face was just soo cute
They were still together. JP was in Dublin with Craig, but we never got to see how Niall got him. Recently, Frankie was seeing her family photo album and there was a picture of JP and Craig, so we can only assume they´re still together.
is that the finally scene for John Paul and Craig??
what an appropriate title lol
omg! wow:)
Ive waited like 2 years for this!
Ha and im bi partially cause of this storyline..
So yeah, i owe this show that!
hehe
Both James and Guy did come back for seperate brief stints; James reprised his role for the church explosion and Guy reprised his role in Hollyoaks Later. But apart from that, I think they're done. No actor wants to be typecast, after all.
YES!!!
Yesssssssssssss!!!!!!!! Finally!!!!
Yay!!!
Craig got so hot
Craig is totatlly gorgeous John-Paul best looking boyfriend even better looking than John-Paul new love interest George no man is as right for John-Paul as Craig is i still think Mcdean are end game
@smileygirl301 I'm sorry but their story ends here. There were one or two mentions of them, but no one visited the show again. It's a pitty, cos they were the cuttest. It seems like they are still together off screen. We can only imagine what their life in Dublin could be...
@bradleymalycha Guh. Don't even mention Brokeback...I was gutted for weeks on end. So I definitely LOVE JPC's happy ending.
@NewFriendRequest92 The song is called epic last song by group does it offend you, yeah? You can find the song on here!!
I actually wonder that every time I watch this. I'm really glad he kissed him, but I kind of wish he had let him finish ;)
What is the last word Craig said? I understood, "When we get to Dublin, if anyone asks, you're my cousin Steve. Everyone thinks I'm straight". And John Paul's "What" was easy to make out, but that last word with the music and the train noise was unintelligible to me. Thank you.
You were bi before that. The storyline just opened you up to the possibilities!
Oh...cos he was kidnapped by Niall who wanted revange from his family. The Mcqueens, except Tina, survived a Church explosion. That´s why JP is all bruise. Craig does not appear in this episodes.
i am only watching this storyline to see how john paul will get to know what happen to kieron .
jp and craig are no longer on the show??
do you ever think they would come back??
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy Plus, JP and Craig are a sight to behold. They're hot AND have amazing chemistry.
agree with post below me... So is this the last of John Paul and Craig for awhile? and haha to Niall getting a taste of his own medicine, literally.
Whats the song that starts at 2:50 ????
Great episode!
Does anyone know if they are gonna show one more final final episode of john paul and craig. That they return to holly oaks together one more time or something. how did the story really ends?
my fave part is from 5:20 to the end
is that the end?
just a little confussed, if this happened on 19 of september how come on 20 of october jp is saing goodbye to his family??? watch this vid... Hollyoaks - John Paul McQueen - 20 October 2008
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy I know what your saying and I do mostly agree with you. I ain't proud of myself because I hated ste when he was with amy cos of what he was doing to her but now the tables are turned and yet some sick part of me wants them to work it out and believe me it's ridicilous that I can possible feel this way. I actually couldn't stand brendan (or mitzeee) when they were first on HO but now I think they are some of my favourites now. As for the 'stashe' I don't mind it at all
im glad we got are lovley ending
Does anyone know how to see Hollyoaks - John Paul & Craig - 19 September 2008 Pt1.
themax1559 Pretty late, but better late than never! :D Here you go: www.dailymotion.com/video/xoe02x_hollyoaks-john-paul-and-craig-19th-september-2008-part-1_lifestyle
@VariahR FF- honestly, I hate how right you are there, lol.
I didn't catch Craig's words at 6:32 - must be something like "just kidding", but it sounds like different words... Can anybody help me? :)
he said I´m messing
Ahh, thanx!
what's the name of the song on the end?
FTW=For The Win. :)
I've seen this video a few times, and I just have to say it cause its pissing me off. The train stattion at the end is Liverpool South Parkway, from which you would get a bus to the airport.... Could they not have chosen a station that wasn't in fact at the airport to record it?!? Aaah, that was driving me mad!
I said 'partially', lol
but yeah, possibilities are amazing.
I kissed my first guy in September, together for two months,
now its weird,
buts thats another story and this is in public. so =P
I love 6:15...so sweet and intimate
@VariahR For me who isn't a massive stendan fan I would only like to see them in a 'healthy relationship' for a while cos I like brendan but as for a happy ending, it just wouldn't be realistic. I don't think it's just about them being gay cos hey ste and noah would be liked. It's just that they do have this chemistry between them on screen (IMO) and that is why some people ship them despite it being utter madness because I don't believe many people shipped amy/ste whe he was abusing her
No offence or anything but I never thought I could ship a gay couple until I seeing these 2 together and plus they are really hot men.
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy Ok I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. I don't think that HO have fail with their new(ish) gay couple of ste and brendan. The thing with Craig and John Paul was theirs was a story about true love plus they were young boys discovering who they really were. With ste and brendan it's different because of brendan and how ste took to being gay plus it's way darker and more disturbing. I don't think they are meant to be about being soulmates but they do have great chemistry.
@NewFriendRequest92 Apparently there is a new gay storyline on the show now, with ste and brendan!!
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy I haven't given up on HO completely but it so not good on the show any more. Too many newbies who just don't cut it. Ridicilous sls and no consistence in any of their stories/plots. It really needs a good shake up and as much as I don't wanna see anyone out of a job, they need to cut some of the cast. I do fear for the actual programme and am not sure how long it will last if it doesn't start to pull in a decent audience like over a million regularly on the 6.30 show
@CJPDeQueen I know the storylines are pretty different, considering Brendan and Ste are based on abuse and JPC was the sexuality confusion, but I just personally don't think it works. I mean, kudos to HO for trying to get the message across that there is gay couples out there that suffer from violent abuse, but I just don't think it works. Ste prancing around like a fairy then whacking Brendan with a baseball bat seems completely out of the blue. I guess Emmet and Kieron do have chemistry with
It's really just an expression...like 'endgame' or 'ultimate' At least, that's the best way I can describe it...sorry, that was kinda lame, I know, lol.
ok but in those episodes jp and craig was still sleeping together ???????
The ending is so ridiculous. Why the producer need to let Kieron die? Coz JP and Craig still are together no mater what. I don't like it. JP said he loves Kieron, but he can get through it so fast, he chased after Craig immediately... Poor Kieron.
@MapleAndAnimeCrazy Hun, the stendan fans want them to have a happy ending cos they're gays. They dig gay scenes. Period. Were they a man and a woman they would want them apart.
@CJPDeQueen Brendan reminds me too much of a 60's villain, gelled hair and the stache. The stache, it just twitches everytime he speaks *shudders* Ergo : Not a big fan of to much facial hair. That was really out of the blue, but yeah lol. I've given up on HO anyway now, Storylines don't interest me at all and there are way to many new characters. Apparently birng 'new faces' into the show improves it. I think not.
@bradleymalycha It's not like they're gonna be JP and C, right? The story is completely different. Brendan looks like a 70's porn star! LOL and eww
The way this ended is just wrong... really hated it... so all those time he said to Keiron that he loved him were fake? Really..... couldn't have ended worse....
Stop feeling sorry for yourself because at the end of the day like I said Craig was with Sarah stop forcing him cos to me fair enough you have feelings or you caught feelings for him basically to me you're forcing him to do something that is not ready to do an a guy that is willing to give up everything for you you want to put Kieran hold for a guy that is in a relationship already listen you get a grip on yourself and go and find somebody who's not in a relationship I stop forcing the guy to be with you only because what you're feeling sorry for yourself your best life forcing Craig to be with you that's what you're doing you're forcing him to make a choice that is not ready to make Kieran wants you why you want to kiss him their kissing here have sex with him they have now darling Craig is not ready to make that decision and if you love yourself and respect yourself as a gay man then you should understand stop forcing someone to be with you if they're not ready to come out there just not ready to come out. So you was willing to put a next Man on hold and now your best the saying why you should put your life on hold for Craig but you was willing to put Kieran on hold to you makeup your mind it's an I don't feel sorry for someone like that you are willing to put a next Man on hold until if or if you wanted to be with him you are willing to put q and on hold so Craig not saying bye to you is probably a good thing darling stop feeling sorry for yourself and go and find somebody who is not in a relationship because to me our own looks like you are forcing him to make a decision that is not ready to make so have a little bit of self respect you understand
But Craig is single he no longer with Sarah John-Paul
What the hell was that?
Why not Kieron? If JP's leaving the show anyway he could've left with Kieron. Nonono they had to kill him off first, pffft.