Great vid Tom! I also noticed foot well lights in the front and boot lights in the back my 3 didn’t have. Also carpet lined front and rear door pockets and carpet on the rear side steps 😊
Great video Tom. I’m new to EV. We have been confused which model to first time purchase, because of the price difference and rebates incentives. After watching your comparison video. We are now confident on making the decision to buy the model Y as our children are still little and will grow bigger. We have to paid $10k more and miss out on the rebates. Roughly $13k difference
What is the difference in price for replacement battery. I realise that the Model 3 and Model Y have different battery specs. It is a consideration for me, due to keeping vehicles for over 10 years, as a retiree. Good video BTW. Thanks Tom
Good question, I would like to know the answer to that too as I am in a similar position. Without doubt though, the situation with regards to replacement batteries in 5 years and in 10 years will be different. An alternative approach might be to change it every couple of years for a new one if savings allow 🤔
@@LudicrousFeed I think Tom was correct talking about the body dimensions not the distance between the wheels side to side (rack) or between the wheels front to back (wheel base).
great video Tom, can't wait for my model Y to come early next year. Would love to know if you have any information on when we might see a long range model Y in aus
Thanks Tom. My 12yo spotted that your vehicle has a bonnet and a boot, where ours is stuck with a frunk and a trunk. How can we get a changeover, please?
Divers as in people that like to drive would never prefer a higher ride…it kills the feel and fun of driving. 20cm higher is a massive increase and that is why SUV's have such poor dynamics. I would like a model 3 sized car with a lift back. My current car is an A7 and it is roomy and nice and has lift back but not really a city car. A model 3 without engine or fuel tank should give the same effective room in a more nimble package….but no lift back rear. :-(
It’s interesting that in NZ the difference in ‘drive away’ price between the models 3 and Y is NZ$1300. You get so much more for you money if you choose the Y not least the ability to tow when it’s available. Good breakdown of the differences.
@@69memnon69 my previous comment was 11 months ago. Today the Model-3 goes for NZ$69,988.00 and the Model-Y NZ$69588.00 - NZ$400 less than the Model-3! Why would you buy a Model-3?
Can we update the details at the start, Tesla have already dropped the price of both cars and maybe add in that both fall under the fbt threshold and qualify for huge discounts when salary sacrificed.
You can get a towing hook on the Model 3 also, you just have to contact the salesperson instead of ordering through the web page. Those are actually quite common in Model 3s in Finland.
@@LudicrousFeed But what about OEM towing hook straight from Tesla? Sounds weird that it wouldn't be available since in other countries you can get it if you ask separately from Tesla even though it's not presented on the order site. But at least in EU / Finland it's really hard or even illegal to have aftermarket towing hooks if they have not been specified for the vehicle from the beginning.
Thanks Tom, it’s the Model 3 for me. Picking it up in 3 days! We’re downsizing and the $3K rebate was the determining factor over the model Y. I had an order in for the BYD ATTO 3 from August but cancelled because of rhe EVDIRECT changes to warranty, service costs etc. Turns out I get the Tesla about the same time (Ordered mid Nov). I did a test drive in the ATTO 3 and liked it, but the price difference for the model 3 was worth it for me. Had EVDIRECT kept their word, I’d be picking that up instead. Your word is your bond. Trust is everything.
@@LudicrousFeed thanks Tom, quick question and I’ve watched most your vids, but what charging lead other than the home charger should I buy to ensure I can charge around NSW East coast? I hear you need to bring your own cable to some chargers? Would you please let me know the biggest bang for buck lead as I won’t be buying them all. Thank you for your phenomenal work. Cheers Jake.
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@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom. That’s what I thought. I’ll get that ordered. I may buy the type 1 to type 2 adapter as well. Any thoughts on an adapter vs a cable? Anything to look out for?
Great short sharp video Tom. I was wondering if there was any difference in the lining of the lower door pockets? And maybe the back internal C pillar? My 2022 M3 doesn’t have any soft lining but I thought I saw the Ys might have soft lining material there now. Thanks.
Hey Tom I see the delivery dates for both 3 & Y at Feb- May 2023. This is the same as the M3 I ordered in June. Doesn’t seem right or fair. Any insights?
I thought the model y standard was eligible for NSW price rebate? The amount they consider on the car for the rebate is the dutiable amount I believe. Before tax my model Y says the price is $64,204.55. I ordered it before they raised the price but I believe the before tax price even now should be below the threshold?
Thanks @@LudicrousFeed ! That makes sense. My bad I had considered they weren't including GST. Shame with GST my car is $150 over the threshold then :(
One thing I thought about when watching your family trips is you could talk about the sort of luggage that you're carrying. Don't think I remember how many kids you have, but if you have 2, is your Model 3's space enough to carry luggage when you did your SYD MEL ADL trip or did you have to compromise? Maybe comments like "We originally planned to take 3 hardcase bags but the 3rd won't fit so we had to shed off some clotthes and place a duffel bag next to the kids" .... if this sort of thing happened!
I’ll try to mention the baggage next time but on our ADL trip we managed to fit everything we wanted to given the storage under the boot floor and also in the frunk! Lots of space 👍
Hi all Is there any difference in the external height of the drivers seat? I’m an old guy and like a higher entry height. Also, do either have auto driver profile that changes seat position per profile? Cheers Michael
Yes the external height of the Y seat is higher as they are on stilts compared to the 3 as well as having a higher ground clearance. Subjectively with the Y you are climbing up into the driver seat as opposed to the 3 where you feel like you are sliding down into it. Yes, the driver profile saves your seat position
I think now the price difference is negligible, the model Y is even cheaper here right now when financing it, because the interest is like 1.something% and the model 3 has 6.something%
@@LudicrousFeedat least here in Germany it seems to be 5% difference or so in a limited offer, google translated from the site: The debit interest rate of 1.97% applies only to Model Y Rear Wheel Drive and Model Y Maximum Range financing applications received on or after April 14, 2023, with the vehicle removed by June 30, 2023. Financing offer is available on a limited basis and can only be applied while supplies last.
Forget a about 491km , start with 430 km and after 9 months go down to 403km , Tesla should come clean and tell the customers real range rather than fake range.
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Great vid Tom!
I also noticed foot well lights in the front and boot lights in the back my 3 didn’t have. Also carpet lined front and rear door pockets and carpet on the rear side steps 😊
Thanks Adam, great spot!
Great video Tom. I’m new to EV. We have been confused which model to first time purchase, because of the price difference and rebates incentives. After watching your comparison video. We are now confident on making the decision to buy the model Y as our children are still little and will grow bigger. We have to paid $10k more and miss out on the rebates. Roughly $13k difference
Glad you found the video helpful
Thanks Tom for this no BS to the point comparison. Just helped me consolidate my decision on staying with my booking for Model 3. Cheers!
Glad you found it helpful!
Great video. Useful, factual, no-nonsense. MY for me without a doubt.
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An excellent video and all the info I needed vis a vis these two vehicles.
Glad you found it helpful 🙏
Thanks for the Video, it is very useful and informative , really appreciate that.
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What is the difference in price for replacement battery. I realise that the Model 3 and Model Y have different battery specs. It is a consideration for me, due to keeping vehicles for over 10 years, as a retiree. Good video BTW. Thanks Tom
Good question, I would like to know the answer to that too as I am in a similar position. Without doubt though, the situation with regards to replacement batteries in 5 years and in 10 years will be different. An alternative approach might be to change it every couple of years for a new one if savings allow 🤔
Thanks Tom, this was very helpful indeed.
Glad to hear it!
Great video as usual. Just wondering if the extra width of Model Y makes it more difficult to manoeuvre in tight multilevel car parks?
Possibly, it does have a slightly wider turning circle
Thanks for the info Tom I found this very useful.
Pleasure!
great video! thank you.
Pleasure!
Excellent video, Cheers 🎉
Thanks!
1:45 Track. The width (left to right) is called the 'track'. The length (front to back) is the wheel base. Love the content.
Oh my goodness penny dropping moment for me! 😱
@@LudicrousFeed I think Tom was correct talking about the body dimensions not the distance between the wheels side to side (rack) or between the wheels front to back (wheel base).
great video Tom, can't wait for my model Y to come early next year.
Would love to know if you have any information on when we might see a long range model Y in aus
No official word from Tesla as yet
Don’t thing you mentioned Model Y comes with heated rear seats and steering wheel. M3 RWD it’s $500 ota upgrade
Actually I take that back. I see that seems to have changed in 2022 and M3 RWD comes with heated rear seats. Good video!
Thanks!
@@dhayasivakumar8006 what about the heated steering wheel ?
Great video, very informative as always.....BTW I'm enjoing my Model Y :)
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Thanks Tom. My 12yo spotted that your vehicle has a bonnet and a boot, where ours is stuck with a frunk and a trunk. How can we get a changeover, please?
Change language to ‘British English’
@@LudicrousFeed . Done, thanks Tom
Divers as in people that like to drive would never prefer a higher ride…it kills the feel and fun of driving. 20cm higher is a massive increase and that is why SUV's have such poor dynamics. I would like a model 3 sized car with a lift back. My current car is an A7 and it is roomy and nice and has lift back but not really a city car. A model 3 without engine or fuel tank should give the same effective room in a more nimble package….but no lift back rear. :-(
Another awesome vlog
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It’s interesting that in NZ the difference in ‘drive away’ price between the models 3 and Y is NZ$1300. You get so much more for you money if you choose the Y not least the ability to tow when it’s available.
Good breakdown of the differences.
Wow, that margin is relatively small between 3/Y
Not in Australia, for the same price as a demo model rear wheel drive Y you can get a new long range model 3 from inventory.
@@69memnon69 my previous comment was 11 months ago. Today the Model-3 goes for NZ$69,988.00 and the Model-Y NZ$69588.00 - NZ$400 less than the Model-3! Why would you buy a Model-3?
Any idea why model S still is not available in Australia?
Can we update the details at the start, Tesla have already dropped the price of both cars and maybe add in that both fall under the fbt threshold and qualify for huge discounts when salary sacrificed.
Will have to update this video to reflect that 👍
Model 3 really needs to be discontinued. Model Y is just better in every meaningful way.
On paper yes … but some prefer a smaller car for a runabout (myself included) 😃
You can get a towing hook on the Model 3 also, you just have to contact the salesperson instead of ordering through the web page. Those are actually quite common in Model 3s in Finland.
Third party aftermarket options are available in Australia for Model 3
@@LudicrousFeed But what about OEM towing hook straight from Tesla? Sounds weird that it wouldn't be available since in other countries you can get it if you ask separately from Tesla even though it's not presented on the order site. But at least in EU / Finland it's really hard or even illegal to have aftermarket towing hooks if they have not been specified for the vehicle from the beginning.
Thanks Tom, it’s the Model 3 for me. Picking it up in 3 days! We’re downsizing and the $3K rebate was the determining factor over the model Y. I had an order in for the BYD ATTO 3 from August but cancelled because of rhe EVDIRECT changes to warranty, service costs etc. Turns out I get the Tesla about the same time (Ordered mid Nov). I did a test drive in the ATTO 3 and liked it, but the price difference for the model 3 was worth it for me. Had EVDIRECT kept their word, I’d be picking that up instead. Your word is your bond. Trust is everything.
Congrats Jake! How exciting!
@@LudicrousFeed thanks Tom, quick question and I’ve watched most your vids, but what charging lead other than the home charger should I buy to ensure I can charge around NSW East coast? I hear you need to bring your own cable to some chargers? Would you please let me know the biggest bang for buck lead as I won’t be buying them all. Thank you for your phenomenal work. Cheers Jake.
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@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom. That’s what I thought. I’ll get that ordered. I may buy the type 1 to type 2 adapter as well. Any thoughts on an adapter vs a cable? Anything to look out for?
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Hi Tom, any ideas when we are going to have the model Y long range in Australia?
No offical word as yet (Oct 2022)
Great short sharp video Tom. I was wondering if there was any difference in the lining of the lower door pockets? And maybe the back internal C pillar? My 2022 M3 doesn’t have any soft lining but I thought I saw the Ys might have soft lining material there now. Thanks.
Oh yes that’s true, I did highlight the soft lining in the door pockets for my ‘Day 1’ Model Y delivery video - thanks for the reminder 👍😃
Hey Tom I see the delivery dates for both 3 & Y at Feb- May 2023. This is the same as the M3 I ordered in June. Doesn’t seem right or fair. Any insights?
From what I hear, Tesla (at least the Shanghai GF) are prioritising Y over 3 at this stage
I thought the model y standard was eligible for NSW price rebate? The amount they consider on the car for the rebate is the dutiable amount I believe. Before tax my model Y says the price is $64,204.55. I ordered it before they raised the price but I believe the before tax price even now should be below the threshold?
The NSW EV $3000 rebate threshold is inclusive of GST
Thanks @@LudicrousFeed !
That makes sense. My bad I had considered they weren't including GST. Shame with GST my car is $150 over the threshold then :(
Get penalised if you upgrade your order which is sold from the factory directly on high demand?
Direct to consumer sales model. Changing your order from Model 3 to Model Y or vice versa will mean forfeiting your deposit ($350 Oct 2022)
One thing I thought about when watching your family trips is you could talk about the sort of luggage that you're carrying. Don't think I remember how many kids you have, but if you have 2, is your Model 3's space enough to carry luggage when you did your SYD MEL ADL trip or did you have to compromise? Maybe comments like "We originally planned to take 3 hardcase bags but the 3rd won't fit so we had to shed off some clotthes and place a duffel bag next to the kids" .... if this sort of thing happened!
I’ll try to mention the baggage next time but on our ADL trip we managed to fit everything we wanted to given the storage under the boot floor and also in the frunk! Lots of space 👍
Hey Tom. Which Tesla's and years contain the front and rear gigacastings in Australia?
My understanding is that we only get the rears from 2022 onward from GF Shanghai
@@LudicrousFeed is that on the 3 and y or just the y?
I believe it’s both 3/Y
Just a shame the Y is so frumpy looking. The rear of the 3 ain’t pretty either mind you.
Not everyone’s cup of tea ☕️
3/Y is built for aerodynamics/efficiency hence the fastback-ish rear appearance
Tom just booked the Tesla 3 highland rwd😂
Sure did 😁
is the center screen same size between 3 and Y?
Yes
Is it true 3 will charge way faster than y at superchargers?
RWD 3/Y charge at 170kW in Aus
LR/P charge at 250kW
maybe different chassis and its internal organs like bolts and nuts we can not see, I don’t know.
Teardown Sandy Munro style!
does the Y come standard with heated rear-seats?
Yes
Got both🥳
Nice!!
Hi all
Is there any difference in the external height of the drivers seat? I’m an old guy and like a higher entry height. Also, do either have auto driver profile that changes seat position per profile?
Cheers
Michael
Yes the external height of the Y seat is higher as they are on stilts compared to the 3 as well as having a higher ground clearance. Subjectively with the Y you are climbing up into the driver seat as opposed to the 3 where you feel like you are sliding down into it.
Yes, the driver profile saves your seat position
@@LudicrousFeed thank you so much!
I think now the price difference is negligible, the model Y is even cheaper here right now when financing it, because the interest is like 1.something% and the model 3 has 6.something%
There’s a difference in interest rates between the two vehicles??
@@LudicrousFeedat least here in Germany it seems to be 5% difference or so in a limited offer, google translated from the site:
The debit interest rate of 1.97% applies only to Model Y Rear Wheel Drive and Model Y Maximum Range financing applications received on or after April 14, 2023, with the vehicle removed by June 30, 2023. Financing offer is available on a limited basis and can only be applied while supplies last.
Forestville RSL car park! 😂
The best!
Forget a about 491km , start with 430 km and after 9 months go down to 403km ,
Tesla should come clean and tell the customers real range rather than fake range.
Tom - you do realise that half of your "differences" are simple the Y being slightly larger than the 3
My video summed up in one line! 😅
3k rebate for the first 25,000 new EV: does it mean not every Ev get 3k?
Each state has their own threshold for rebates. In NSW (Nov 2022) the threshold for the $3k rebate is $68k
@@LudicrousFeed 3k, reduced from 3.5k
How about the roof being one piece compared to two in model 3?
Yup! I did mention that the Y had a one piece panoramic glass roof
@@LudicrousFeed my bad! ;)
Good video btw. Like the new style/segment!
In France the Tesla Y is cheaper than the Tesla 3
Amazing how different pricing is in different markets worldwide!
No subsidy in Western Australia, because McGowan and Labor.
Blaming the Labor party a bit unfair. Other Labor states have the rebate, so it's just your backward state 😏
That’s a whole lotta extra for not that much more money. Makes the case for buying the Y over the 3 quite compelling.
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Hey… what about charging for short periods like 30-45 mins at shopping centres for example… is that detrimental to the battery?
No that’s not detrimental to the battery