Setting up the Army Improved Combat Shelter (ICS)
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when you get back to the states, maybe a situation where your ATV breaks down and you have to overnight with gear on you?
I like it
@@GruntProof Mako wants a production job!!!
Hey,@@GruntProof,
If I paint the outer cover with a spray paint or dye with colour, will it affect the water proof and other qualities?
I might wanna dye or paint it with green or brown colour for a better camouflaging.
@@0bserver416just a thought. Why not try one of those gorilla(?) Brand or DD hammock tarps. Bit of research on size and remake the top/fly in coyote or kahki?
I guess it depends on the paint. But that's gonna add pounds for sure
I was issued that jacket for Iraq. Also issued the tent later. The design is great. I loved them both! Unfortunately had to turn them back into Supply with leaving Army. I just got this tent from a dealer nearby for $50! Smells a bit but I will take care of that. Great video!! Enjoy that down jacket!
"Keyboard fighters" will never understand real situations! Night with an stoppable rain rucking 32km soaking wet tiered and have to set your "house" (poncho) for some rest (50% awareness). Thanks for remembering me situations from the past. Now i am stack in my house and numbering the chemotherapys to end. Keep going and let the ultra light guy's to spend their money. 👍
Never quit! 💪
Have faith in God and keep up the good fight.
Beat dat shiet, son. If the government wanted you to have cancer, it would have been issued to you and you'd have a signed receipt!
Bon courage with the chemo! Next session will be my 12th..
@@rockykoast7065 I beat him! Grit your teeth and move on you will win! Don't let him win your mind and your body, you will win him! Fight with all your might! Fight, fight, fight......
The TCOP and ICS tents are fantastic. I certainly don't mind the weight, these tents are bombproof.
What's the difference between the two?
@@benjaminwright5936 about half way through this video we put the two side by side. th-cam.com/video/8HIjdapuj6s/w-d-xo.html
Nice little tent. I love military gear. I still use my MSS to this day.
Hi Randall, that didn't look too painful setting up in the dark. I've had to do that more times than I wanted and I hate it, but sometimes you have no choice. That's what I love about military gear, the weight is worth it! Good to know you can throw the ICS in the dryer. Thanks!👍🏕
I love this tent! (I was stationed in Baumholder Nov 88 to Dec 91, back when it was the 8th I.D.)
I was there 03 to 07! A Co 2/6 IN
@@GruntProof B 4/29 FA
8 ID the speed bump division! Damn I miss the Cold War so much easier
Greetings from across the pond: the UK. Ive had one of these for about a year. Indeed its Squaddie proof as we may call our lads and lasses in the Army. I have found it to be very intuitive and practical. Its a bit weird to find so much black inside a tent but its spacious and practical so when its time to hit the sack you wont notice. Its hard wearing and although the camouflage isn't too practical in the spring and summer for stealth camping, in the autumn and winter it blends in with the grey sky, and sparse woodland well enough. A good review
Good video, thanks! Idea: Spray a stripe of paint across the tent poles so it's easier to see which one belongs where. And, for the keyboard commandos, no one sets up a tent under fire. SemperFi!
Thanks!
The shorter one goes on the rain fly ?
I had one of these, given to me. I also bough the Lightfighter 1 in OCP, both of which the purpose is motorcycle camping. I ended up keeping the Lightfighter one, just because it has two full vestibules I can use in bad weather. These one person tents are great though for the bike-all in one shelters that, if its just for a night or two, work perfect. If I am going for several nights, I take a larger tent-but overnights, these are ideal.
Also, the model you have, has that old familiar wet weather bag "stink". I got out in 04, went in in 88-all 11B. We didnt have tents (with th exception of the shelter half, which was never used), we just used our ponchos. Hell, when we got the MSS system, I was ecstatic! That was a tent that was the size of our old school sleeping bags!!! I remember the first night using it...we got frost and freezing rain. Didnt feel a thing!!!
Haha Buttercup here. I would have slept in the house. Then when I saw the tent half frozen,,I would have picked it up, complete and set it in the garage. Lol.
Great video, thanks.
I love this tent i’ve used it at Ft. Leonardwood and Ft. Carson..very strong, very reliable..
Great video, if it ain't raining you ain't training. I used to hump 4 season North Face tents up the sides of mountains in my younger years. I was wondering why you roll the tent back up. We would stuff the rain fly into the sack first then the tent and finally ground cloth on top and cinch the bag closed. The poles would be stored in the pack vertically along the back pad so they don't bend. When you pull the tent system out of the bag its in order to set up again. Also, the thinking back then was, if you keep folding the tent along the same lines it will eventually damage the waterproofing because you are stretching the fibers to make a fold. Anywho, hope this helps.
I've heard of that and I do it with my tarps. I haven't had any issues with the tent though. If it is pouring and I wanna get out of there, I will just stuff it all in the top of my ruck
I'm pretty sure thr old conventional wisdom has changed - the thinking being that stuffing creates tons of tiny creases which are simply duplicated (despite thinking they aren't replicated - they are) whereas folding and rolling neatly limits the creases to a few areas while leaving large panels unaffected by the creases stuffing creates.
Yeah I'm with you on the tent up in combat thing. When shtf the last thing you're worried about is a tent !!!! You just rest wherever and whenever you can.
Because of your first video on this tent that I watched again today because it popped up, i was checking them out on line, and a Sportsman’s Guide ad had a used one for $109.
That tent is now sold and coming to me.
It is a groovy little setup you can throw anywhere with serious capacity. Six pounds for that sort of four season, durability luxury of space and storage with performance is terrific.
I had some concern with the second hand aspect until you mentioned your eight years with tent.....and the tumble dry...
Thanks.
Great channel. 🇺🇸💥!
Love your humour, my friend. And real-life conditions. That's what my kit goes through so good to see this tent is tough. Not that I'd expect a military tent to not be. Love your put down about Ramadi. Respect. Gotta love Al Anbar. I was in Baghdad 2007/2008 but somewhat calmer.
Very nice tent in my opinion. I'm used to sleeping in a bivy sack with a sleeping bag inside of it or no bag but just a bivy sack and woodland camo blanket. This would be an upgrade for having all around covering.
Good vid. "If it rainin', we ain't trainin'".
I spray painted my short pole with gray primer because I had the exact same problem.
Excellent video Randall. I've always had to leave my tcop in the garage to dry. Keep coming with the good content man.
awesome! thanks!
I bought my The North Face VE24 in 1990 and I still have it without any repairs or replacements.
I am really finding your channel useful. This makes me want one of these tents now. I hadn't been big on military surplus stuff until recently. Thanks for all the great info. Take Care and Stay Safe.
just picked up an ICS - NOS - awesome, clean and almost green - great work on the episodes!
I love mine, it's getting ready to go Arizona again for the annual winter rock hunting & camping trip till spring. I get out of Idaho for the WINTER ! THANKS, TAKE CARE..
I like your activity schedule. Sounds like a dream
@@constancegreiner906 Az is a great place to go to get out of the cold for a while. Are you able to travel any in the winter? TAKE CARE
Thank you for sharing! God bless you!
Army Surplus - can't beat it! Thank you!
Awesome.
I've watched this video a few times now and every time it reminds me why I don't wear jeans in the woods. That wet knee would drive me nuts! Love this tent tho! Mine should be here tomorrow!
Wow! Great video! You sold me on getting one of these. That last scene tossing it into the drier convinced me. Thanks again.
Hahahahahaha I remember throwing my bivvy bag in the dryer in front of a bunch of trainees and seeing the look of horror on their faces!
Sure enough when I pulled it out it was good as new!
Can't beat military surplus!
I am happy I found your channel! Thanks for putting your info on TH-cam.
Thanks!
I think I might buy this tent thanks
That “wrong pole” did my heart good. I was sitting here saying how the heck did he know that was the right pole?🤔 Thanks. I bought one of these not long ago and for me it was a royal bitch to set up because the rain fly pole would get stuck and jammed up going thru the sleeves on top of the fly and then when I’d try and back the pole out a little to unjam it the shock corded sections would come apart and then it would be next to impossible to put them back together inside the sleeve (and you can’t pull the pole out UNTIL you put all the sections back together) without part of the sleeve getting jammed in between the sections that came apart. You have convinced me to dig this tent out of the closet I tossed it to the back of and give it another chance. Thank you again.
You know Randall, I really don't need another tent, but I am really liking this one. Thanks for everything you do.
Thanks!
Looks like an improvement over the old style shelter half or poncho hooch
Bravo!
Well done sir.
Great video much appreciated !!!
Just got my i.c.s inn the mail. Watched video for rainfly set up. Thank you. Be a tight fit for me and my 100 lbs dog. But in a bug out situation. We'll deal with it. Love the heavy duty construction of it. Finally broke down and bought a real tent. Only one other tent I want. The siesta 2 or 4 tent. Thank you Grunt proof!
Glad to help!
Out of curiosity. Where are you or were stationed I'm germany?
I was
@@GruntProof just curious where. My brother was stationed in Bamberg, Germany.
Baumholder. I knew Bamberg too. Nice town
Great video, thanks for doing this. From a product design standpoint, the only "problem" I noticed was that one of the rods is not the same size as the other two, which slowed you down a bit. It would be better if they were all the same length, but if not that, then the shorter one should be a different color. Or of course you could just wrap some tape around it, so you know at a glance that it's the short one.
Excellent demonstration. Thank you.
Ranger burrito ( but ya thats a ditch effort tent.. usually there is a hasty set up).. and I don’t think it was slow)and who sleeps lol
Thank you ☺️
Awesome as always sir! Thanks for more info on this tent. I have the TCOP & the 2 man Marine tent but I want one of these as well. Got a used one two years ago but had to return it. It was in too bad shape to use. Looking at a new one on EBay if I can swing the dough. Also found a new Medium OCP Ruck. More wants than money!
Good video can't remember seeing anyone putting a tent away..atb Mitch 🇬🇧.
Much nicer than the old school shelter half I was issued. Only time I ever used that POS was bivouac in basic training. Rest of the time was using a hooch or ranger roll. Thinking about picking up one of these, I just wish it had some ventilation.
So, no more individual shelter halves to pair up with your battle bud, huh? Damn I'm old.
Or sleep dead man in 🥶
I just picked up a damaged used Army surplus one on eBay with a missing fly, and some holes and torn places on it for $1.30 plus another $8.70 for shipping. so for $12 including tax, it's worth the learning experience. I'll post a comment after it arrives.
I did that with mine, and all the seam tape came off from the inside of the rain fly. Sucks!!! but I love the tent and still use it
In the dryer? Then you had it too hot
Just like your rifle, the dryer has a LOW setting.
Great video thanks
Just got my tent in today and set it up in the basement as soon as I opened it. Probably be trying out my new MSS and tent this weekend. We have about 6” of snow on the ground and the forecast is 12F So the backyard will be the testing ground. I plan on using my cookware from Self reliance outfitters and this years deer harvest. I’m sure the old lady that lives next door will think I’m nuts but it sure seems like a great time to try it out.
Awesome!
Great stuff ...
I got bought the ICS last summer and I love this tent .. only drawback is it's hard 2 get around here in Germany ... The dryer tip = damm never thought that cool idear...
I put some colored tape on my long poles so I know which ones are which, works great on my big ass tent with 6 sets of poles. Would work great on a smaller tent especially for night setup.
Love this tent. Had mine for years. I wish more tents were “black out” tents - safer and more private.
Another awesome video
👍🙂.....doing it right the first time.
Love this I love camping In The Sticks
I love your tone, "were getting more freezing rain ..... Awesome" ROFL great video.
Thanks!
My first tent as a teenager that I went hiking was a cotton tent weighing about 13lbs.
Didn't have that when I was in. It took 2 soldiers with each having half a tent and each having two wooden poles in five steaks though it took two soldiers to put 1 tent together so anyway took two people to make one tent one stay awake one sleeping all in mud and snow if yeah could sleep.
11BA1 & 19D 🇺🇸
Thanks for the video. I want one
I wrapped a short strip of white cloth tape at the 4 ends of the 2 long poles so I could see which was which even in the dark
Honestly, I have no idea why I didn't tape the short one... At the time, it seemed super smart taping the long ones...
Thats a neat looking tent. Tough as a boot it looks like! 👍 nice job👍
Thanks!
I don’t ever even remember being issued a tent from 2001 - 2010 WTF.
Never had level 7,Bivi,waffle,nice tent, None of that stuff was issue or available , I had no cel, No amazon . 84- 04. Liebe Bayern !
Desert storm was with AN/PRC 77 , Did basic in Harmony Church Ga.
Good Old Army
You got those Snoopy hats though 😎
@@GruntProof yeah buddy!
I pulled the trigger on this, based off of your review. I just purchased this tent, without the poles or stakes. I'm going to improvise those things...meaning I bought some poles that should fit the tent. Ultralight sounds great, but I don't trust it, because it seems to be too lite. That and the fact that I don't have 1'000's of dollars to afford an ultralight setup. I guess its the debate between, get the gear that makes your life a little easier or acclimate to heavier, more durable that one can obtain at an affordable price. The guys that fought WWII, Korean and Vietnam would give their left nut for a tent like that, or the USMC ILBE (which I have.)
You'll enjoy it!
I was looking for a tent, I'm sold, thanks.
I do a few things different on setting it up. One maybe worth mentioning. I put a wrap of white electrical tape near each end of the pole for the fly for ID. I got tired of mixing them up. I don't know how old mine is, but the blackout material started flaking off of the fly when I set it up at -14 F. Minnesota ya no.
Good idea!
Yea good video.
All the great beers in Germany and you gotta drink that sewer water 🤣 Cool video 👍
Thanks for all the videos on this tent I just bought one for my son for Christmas. Love the fact you just threw it in the dryer to dry. What's the best way to clean it? I think I bought one the traveled with you on your all expenses paid 20 day tour of Eastern Europe. It smells to high heaven. Thanks for your service!
I also throw it in the washer, low detergent, and no spin cycle. No issues. Thanks!
@@GruntProof Awesome, thanks! Keep your powder dry.
Since your first video on this tent I tried to get one in Germany. Any idea where I might get one?
I'm keeping my eyes out for one to fall off a truck.
@@GruntProof 👍😀
You can get the follow up version in good old m81 on eBay for around 240 euros... just search for "Eureka tcop"
@@DocFischer Danke. 👍
I have not been in the military I’m a fireman and I was able to set the tent up extremely easy with the proper sleeping bag and pads I was very comfortable it kept the wind out I slept until late in the day could not tell it was even daytime out Me and one other person fit in this tent we were both pretty comfortable in it. Thinking about getting the light fighter two-man marine tent so I can fit two colors of PBR in there💪🇺🇸.
Cool!
Which colors?
Cool Randall. I just dont see how that tent, its setup/ break down or weight can bee an issue for anybody. I would have loved that tent for motorcycle camping back in the day. Or for hiking. Because of injuries over the years I dont use tents anymore. Im a hammock guy now. Its nice to see you informing the buttercups out there. Live Life Large, Its Shorter Than You Think!
Damp cold hurts.
A lot of civilian gear is semi-disposable; intended for one season or expedition of hard use, then replaced. GI gear is intended to last indefinitely, through years hard use and multiple issues to possibly several different individuals or units. I've noticed that complaints of gear failure soared when light weight became a military priority and civvy-style gear was used in combat conditions.
Good video buddy, im going to buy one. I go to Dartmoor a lot, (which always seems to try and kill you) so this will be excellent .......can you buy these new? I can only find used....all the best.
The flaw with this system is if you are in a torrential downpour the inner will be soaked by the time you get the fly over the top. A system that puts both the inner and the fly up together is better but from an ex infanteer's point of view it's an improvement over a basha!
Kickass video.
I used to say , "hey it's a workout" but I am old now and joints hurt all the time , I now injoy my 20 oz. Zpacks tent with other UL gear , we still go out use this ics and tcop on real short trips , remember people can't stay young forever , just sayin
Loved this, even in the dryer…..
Uncle Randall: What did you use to record the audio? I don't see a wireless lapel mic. It came out perfect.
Thanks! It's just the GoPro 7. If you're outside it has great close-micing for some reason
@@GruntProof Wow! That's impressive.
HOOOAH I love it. No sissy here I pack that tent with the rest of my non ultralight gear all day long and I'm 60 years old. No problem.
Dwayne
I like the tent how would it fit a man and his women for a few nights out in the woods with a basic load out
love it 😂
As always great vid... Some poor ultralight tent owner is gonna BF there tent by throwing it in the dryer.. Maybe medium molle ruck vid..
I just did a Grunt Proof on that and will have it up soon 👍🏻
That looks a lot like my Eureka Backcountry 1. The third pole on mine always wants to take a different shape every time I set it up, never lays the same way twice. lol Be careful with stuff sacks. Mine blew away when I wasn't looking, since it was near a lake I couldn't find it in the woods or see it on the water. Pack your empty stuff sacks right into your pack or put something heavy on it.
New ICU's are SOLD OUT, everywhere. Only Pre-Owned are available on eBay.
That's how a lot of surplus gear is now. That should give you a good idea of what people are expecting for the future. Highly doubt a lot of people having camping on their mind. Know what I mean?
@@daytonasixty-eight1354 Yes, most definitely!
Best 1 man tent ever!
hey are you still thinking about doing the video about packing for combat ops bc I never see those anywhere it is always packing for boot camp and to go to like Okie or korea
Yes
Aw wrong pole. Don't get any more real than that.
Thanks for the patience you have when explaining things. One questions, my black liner on the inside tent fly is chipping off, any spray or something I can use?
Flex seal, the brush on style
I have this tent but never set it up below freezing. Do the plastic clips get stiff in the cold?
I don't remember having that problem
Many thanks! After your review elsewhere, I ordered an ICS on eBay for a planned drive-and-camp tour of our marvelous country. I do have a question. After camping in well below freezing conditions at the base of Mt. Rainier, I discovered the value of a tent liner. My breath was freezing on the nylon walls of the tent. Every burst of wind resulted in tiny ice particles falling on my face. As soon as I got back, I turned an old cotton sheet into a tent liner. Cotton absorbs moisture rather than raining it down. I know the military makes cotton liners for its large tents. Did it ever make one for the ICS? If not, I imagine it's be quite easy to make one for ourselves.
Good idea! Of course the army never figured that out
Good idea! Of course the army never figured that out
Semper Fi !
its a good tent for motorcycle use if you use tents. im down to tarp shelter or hammock when on motorcycle or backpack.
Love this tent. Only question is where do the stakes go?
After the dryer, I had to to throw the "gruntproof" tent in the bin - great tip!
But, to be completely honest, I checked again: I think it was down to the specific tent itself or the waterproofing spray I've used with it in the past.Because the black rubber lining inside has always tended to stick together even after hand washing in the past, so that it later came away from the fabric when I pulled it apart. I still wouldn't put it back in the tumble dryer. Nevertheless the tent itself is great and currently available really cheaply in Germany from Mogeha Army if you need one in reserve ;)
I'm about to get an MSS system and I've already got a GI foam ground pad. Do I need to pick up an air pad or self inflating mat to go with the foam pad for winter camping with the MSS? Local temps will probably be 25-28 degrees for the low.
Our foam pads are insulated but not very much and aren't very comfy. I use two these days
@@GruntProof Alright, thanks!
I use the MSS system and if you are a side sleeper, the foam and a 1 in. inflatable won't be enough for comfort....pressure points on hips/shoulders. I have the older woodland mss so side sleeping is easier than the newer, lighter mummy style bag. The woodland is wider. I'd go w/the 2 in. insulated bag for all seasons comfort.
correction...insulated sleeping mat. sorry
Beatin' the crap out of "ultralight" backpackers again...hilarious! 😂
Hey, @Grunt Proof,
If I paint the outer cover with a spray paint or dye with colour, will it affect the water proof and other qualities?
I might wanna dye or paint it with green or brown colour.
I doubt it
I bought one of these off ebay and the fly was stuck together....took my time and got it opened up.....the black coating on the inside of the fly delaminated, leaving a white sticky adhesive on the material. I like the tent. The waterproof floor black coating is fine.
Just wondering if you have suggestions to fix the coating.