Chainsaw Trouble - I took Stihl & Husqvarna Chainsaws from a Tree company for 30 days
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- For 30 days I took away Merdian Trees Stihl & Husqvarna chainsaw and replaced them with Echo. What happened next didn't turn out so good. Cutting down a massive tree with a crane cutting and felling trees
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Next time remove all the Echo branding and put Stihl logos and have them test the "new Stihl" saws for 30 days :)
You can tell them apart at a glance, this wouldn't work.
The second I looked at it I would know it’s not a Stihl tool, also Stihl doesn’t make stickers!
Big differences. Won't work
always ran stihl on the crews and as a homesteader now NOTHING HAS CHANGED =) good review
Thanks Doug!
Echos are much better ya fanboy
Never trust a man who pulls chainsaws out of the trunk of a Hyundai. Ever!! Just....No!!
Dude he actually had some really god workers there and some very good points on the saw
Only thing he ever got zapped by was a dose of ignorance
Its funny you say that. I got 2 chainsaws in the trunk in my Hyundai right now. A husky 562 and a stihl 271. Why no trust lol???
Could be worse, you could have given them poulans 😂😂😂
LOL😃
Poulan do suck for anything but light homeowner use but for that they tend to work descent. Today I fired up a poulan 2300 that hadn't ran in several years and it worked well. To many of them don't want to restart once warm and I have never seen a modern echo that leaked bar oil atleast. Never seen a modern homelite or poulan that didn't leak it. Shame homelite has turned into complete junk compared to the 20 yrs and older ones. I wonder how the pneumatic ones are to use still tho. Never used a pneumatic saw yet.
Poulan is owned by Hooskvarrna and light duty Hooskvarrna saws are made in the same factory
Who is Hooskvarrna? I know Husqvarnas low end homeowners saws have many identical parts that poulans also do. I thought Mcculloch, Homelite, Ryobi, Poulan Pro and Craftsman chainsaw were also made by in the same factorys in China. I thought the only difference was where they were assembled. Homelite is often put together in china an Husqvarna entry level ones are assembled in Arkansaw. Don't work for any of these companies and am not above ever making a mistake its just what I have heard and seen a few that said the samething I previously was told.
It gets stranger tho when the cylinder says its Mahler and German made identical to the high-end Husq, Dolmar(Makita) and Stihl chainsaws.
I have 3 16 inch Poulan Pros. Now I'm not every day timberman or a logger but it works for what I need.
At least they tried the saws. Every professional tree service in my area all run stihl.
I wonder how Dolmar would do?
And all heavy duty foreman and logging in my area runs husqvarna.
Because Stihl is the best!!! I've logged all over the PNW for alot of years and I bet 75% of all the companies up here run Stihl
stihl is the best. i buy stihl trimmers and chainsaws i only buy stihl.
Lurkens Kanal never tried a husq heard they are great saws but i cant imagine having any troubles using a stihl to do the same job.
They had some good points regarding the Echo design.
But still love my Echo saws!
I run echo saws in my tree service. I love there small to midsize saws. Even my dealer says the echo just doesn’t have a good large saw. It’s hard to beat echo’s price and warranty.
Sounds to me like this guy didn’t want to like the echo all I know my experience with sthil is I spend more time pulling on the cord than cutting
440x get a husq
440x, that's because you don't know how to start it. 90% of guys that complain about how a stihl starts don't know how to start them correctly. Set your pride aside and read the manual you will be amazed and you won't flood them out.
440x then learn how to start
Learn maintenance and how to mix fuel.
I agree that the Echo trimmers are solid, especially the older ones.
Yes sir!
4 years on a 355T in the trees. Love it. Wouldn't touch a new sthil or husky top handle with a 10 foot pole.
3 months on my 620PW falling trees. Love it.
I have two 355t. Been running them since they hit the Shelf. Great saw!
I own a lawn care company and started out with STIHL products. I could NOT keep all my STIHL equipment going at the same time. There was always something wrong with one of them. During that time I bought a used echo blower (6-7) years ago. I still use that blower to this date and all I have done was put gas in it!! I also, about the same time, bought used hedge trimmers. They are the same story as the back ground. So, since then, my company has majorly grown and during that growing process, I started buying shindawia. Each one has let me down at least 3 times. I knew I should have bought echo but didn't do it because in my mind..."echo isn't professionally grade enough." This year I have made the best decision to slowly transform all my handheld equipment to echo. I couldn't be happier!!!! Thanks for the honest review! I do agree with the tree company owner as far as the chainsaws go. STIHL does seem to have the market on saws from everyone I know and see. STIHL also has the best advertisement and memorabilia on the market. I.e. Truck air fresheners, clothing, suspenders the kind of junk that doesn't matter but is kinda cool. Like I said great review. Love your channel.
Thanks Blake!
I like my echoes just fine . Cs355t is awesome. That 500p is also a great saw.
I live in Texas and have been Trimming and cutting down trees for over 20 years. I use Echo . I have used all the other brands . Stihl the gas and oil caps they leak. It's a great idea have gas and oil cap with out using a tool. You have to go Stihl to get parts. Ivan get parts easier for Echo and get to using the chainsaw faster. Stihl is a good I just like Echo better
Very cool Curtis!
What do you think about the cs590?
I opened my tree service in 2015 and bought an entire fleet of brand new Stihl saws. The only one I still own is a 201T because of all the issues I had. I've converted to Dolmar for my bigger saws but own an Echo 8000 36" as well, doesn't have the power of a 7910 Dolmar but it starts every time and always gets the job done. My best overall performers are my Husq 550XP and 562XP. Groundsmen all use Echo 450s and 590s never had a single breakdown as with my backpack blowers and trimmers. I would advise anyone to give Echo a try. Also check out the Dolmar 7310 and 7910 they are absolute ANIMALS.
Thanks for the input on your experience Devan !
I have the 7310 and the 7910 as well, your right they are really nice saws. I still reach for the old CS8000 when I'm pile cutting. Sort of like a well broke in pair of gloves.
I've ran echo hedge trimmer( standard size), stihl hedge trimmer (long version), echo blowers, edgers and weed eaters.I enjoy using echo products and they work great for me. Great vid, i respect echo having the gonads to go for this tryout.
I'm the same way I like echo.
I have had great luck with my echo equipment.
We run echo blowers commercially every single day, 6 days per week, for hundreds of commercial properties throughout the bay area. We don't do anything to the echo blowers except changing spark plugs and air filters once a year, if we remember. Their reliability is legendary and we are filling our coffers full of cash by never going to the mechanic.
I look at some of my friend's repair bills on stihl equipment (stihl parts and servicing is dealer only), and man! What a sticker shock! We save thousands each year using Tanaka (hitachi), Husqvarna, and Echo.
Parts may be dealer only, but I can certainly fix my own Stihl equipment. Actually pretty rare that the dealer touches my Stihl stuff after the initial buy.
You should also try the Shindiawa blower. just as reliable as Echo but a but less weight.
Never seen a serious faller in an import... with a trunk. Every one of his concerns with the Echo are valid, but for the price it beats stihl hands down. My Echo 590 starts 1st pull 99% of the time, unless I'm at high elevation and the only maintenance I've ever done was tuning the carb and knocking the air filter out, besides normal bar flipping and sharpening/replacing the chain
Love my echo 590, but than again, I'm not a professional and just use it around my property.
Stihl just has so much more thought put into their professional saws. Echo has a powerful engine and good inner components, but their design is subpar and inconvenient compared to stihl's.
No simple halftwist fuel and oil caps
Ignition controls, while simple, require you to use both of your hands to operate.
Side cover has no captive nuts, so they can get lost if one doesnt pay attention.
The start cord has a spring in the handle so you dont hurt your hand if you start on a compression stroke, etc.
Every saw can have a powerful engine and shred wood like it's nothing, but few will have that simplicity and ease of operation that will make all the difference.
Bring safety gear to these work sites and always wear it in the bucket. You do good work and I would like to see you continue to be able to do it.
Tree removal experts and while i appreciate their critic. They don't even mention how it cuts?... until kyle at the very end..
Can't decide if Porsche comment means he's a brand snob or doesn't know much about cars.
The second this guy said you can get a shock off the ignition switch I stopped listening. 4:00 . I may not be a tree expert but I have electrical engineering experience and many small engine units. The electrical switch is on the primary side of the coil and it runs at 12V. its impossible to get a shock off of it.
He used the term "zapped" maybe he meant to accidentally hit it... Im not sure.
Im a professional logger and here in our area Sthil is the only thing anyone runs even husky is considered a cheaper saw. Were cutting hardwoods in the steep mountains of Southwest Va. and Eastern Ky.
Everytime I go out with my father with my Husqvarna he's still trying to get his Stihl started I've got half the tree cut😂
he's a very smart man! It's a way to spend time together and you get to do all the work lol.....
andrew zweiger so true. I rarely see a Stihl start easy
Maybe ya should learn how to start a saw.
It’s the opposite with my step dad and I. His husky takes at least 4-5 pulls to start. My Stihl starts first pull everytime lol
My Stihl starts very easy been running it for 18 years now he needs to take his to someone that knows how to adjust a carburetor properly
Everyone in this video was honest and very informative. This is the way do it right.
I run a few echo's here in the UK and like for like machine the stihl's won't compete with the ones I have. My 620sx, 360tes and 2511tes run rings around the equivalent stihl 362, 201t and 150t. faster cutting, more torque and better balanced...what more could you want
Good info! Thanks!
You are making a very tall statement I have ran Stihl and echo and the echo is a ok saw at best will never be as good as a stihl
I have an Echo leaf blower, and since I live at a higher elevation, my favorite feature is the fact that I can adjust the fuel/air mixture so it doesn't run "rich" because of the higher altitude. Newer chainsaws and leaf blowers, as well as string trimmers, have fixed carburetors, which ALWAYS run rich up here at ~4,000 feet of elevation. It's almost impossible to find new 2-stroke power tools, that allow mixture adjustment. If Echo chainsaws still have that adjustment, it will be my next chainsaw! You can run those Echo engines ragged on 50:1 fuel/oil mix for a lifetime. I've only replaced the spark plug once in the last decade, because I can adjust the mixture to burn that clean. In the entire 30 years I've owned the blower, I've only cleaned the spark arrestor screen in the muffler once. It's totally absurd, to think that a "set and forget" carburetor can be built, that can compensate for changes in barometric pressure, altitude, relative humidity, temperature, or even slight differences in fuel composition. Those "EPA" carburetors are dirtier than any carburetor, that will allow you to tune it to the operating environment, unless, you run your saw at sea level, at 77°F, at ~50% relative humidity,(standard temperature and pressure) and that's if the stiffness of the diaphragm in the carburetor doesn't change with use.
Here in Texas ethanol free gas ⛽️ my friend
I currently own 2 Echo chainsaws, a CS-590 and a CS-310. They are both terrific saws.
Before I bought the Echos, I owned a Stihl, but when it was stolen, I just couldn't justify the high price of a replacement Stihl saw. I bought both saws for less than a Stihl.
I agree with the other comments; the saws didn't look like they had seen any use when they were returned. I think the tree company guy was terribly biased.
this is good I haveworked in logging for 15 years. I use a husky and love it because it's rugged. I have looked at the echo a d was thinking about getting one for small jobs with the landscaping business I have but I'm glad I seen this becauseI won't wast my money on one thanks.
Hope it helped out!
I’m so glad that this wasn’t all bullshit and we’re actually hearing the honest results.
Echo makes great pro chainsaws
guys...c'mon...stop bashing him on pronouncing names. and actually u guys r wrong. it is pronounced HOOSK-VARNA It is Swedish after all
LOL😃
No! Its not Hoosqvarna!I am sweed and it's Husqvarna! thank you
Hus - kvarna! The first part is Hus=house. Second part kvarna=mill like in windmill or water powered mill.
Stihl, is by far the best product out there I was surprised the men went 30 days without there toys.
I've used an echo cs310 for about 8 years, damn good saw.
started with a couple Poulans and now I pretty much only run Stihls and Huskys. Love em both, but I'd be interested in trying an Echo
Feels like a stihl comercial not a real evaluation of echo
I've never had any problems out my echo saws and have ran right beside stihls and will out work a husky hands down
I agree my cs590 does great I turned heads
I'm no professional but I cut down a lot of trees at my farms and have both Echo and Stihl and the Echo's have been amazing.
Good to hear, thanks for watching !
I have both saws I have never not had a echo start. I have had sthil not start. Cs590 comes in allot cheaper then ms291 which is 5/16 chain. Echo cs590 sports 3/8. For the extra warranty echo 5 yrs. Sthil nothing!!!!
Never switching from Stihl but I do really like the new overhand echo cs 3511 when it's running right. A problem seems to be if you're running Stihl AND Echo is they prefer different mix.
The 501p is a WAY better saw than a home owner grade 455 rancher or 028 and 029.
I prefer a 550xp in that class but the Echo 501p is a nice little saw.
Yes 501p is nice but overpriced. For $500 you can get better Ebay has husq 545s for about $450 Pro quality saw little less power than 550xp
I've never used an echo, they seem decent, but I will live and die by my Stihl.
😃👍
try them!! underatted saw, bought one yesterday and i like it better then my stihl
Best thing Stihl makes is their chainsaw... Redmax SHITS on them with everything else. Fact.
@@spenny9274 Redmax is Husqvarna
I have sthil, husky and echo saw. Echo is very a very good chose. Thanks for the video. Great work
Excellent video! I run Husky and now Husky only. I have run Stihl, Echo and Dolmar. The Subtle differences in saws weer not a deciding factor the DEALER was the deciding factor. I can go to my dealer has has the parts I need right there and if they can I take to the shop and the either fix it wile I wait or get on it right away! I'm just a homeowner who cuts a ton of wood. The Husky I chose were for my reasons. But, my dealer takes awesome care of me and I only go to my dealer. He treats my like a king and I return the favor. Every time I can I recommend my dealer to people Jacks Small Engine. Shameless plug I know but hey they treat me right!! Oh BTW the Echo blowers and trimmers are a good product but the saws feel time toys. They need to do something to their plastics to make them feel more skookem' and, dial up their engines the make them chooch better
Great info - Thanks!
I see you watch AvE as well!!! "Keep your *&@$ in a vice"
I have a Echo 330T, love it for trimming, but it does leak oil for some reason. It fires right up every time though. I have a Stihl 039 and love it also, but it is the most temperament starting saw I have ever owned. Far as blowers, had a Echo, only lasted 3 years, replaced it with Stihl, not real impressed with it either, had to take it back to dealer for repair after first month. Have had both brands of trimmers, both really good, but would have to go with the Echo on that. Might have to try a Husky next.
I own all Stihl equipment, were not a tree company but still keep three different sized saws around for odd jobs that come up and firewood. I used a brand new echo, while not a pile of junk I had very similar thoughts. Just was not a professional grade product
Great to know! Thanks!
Notice how Kyle is the only one that actually gave a non biased review of one of the saws, that 501 echo will cut a 290 stihl in half
Stan I recommend you buy your self a stihl 261 saw and a 462 to do some direct comparison.
Both saws are used heavily by tree professionals in my area.
Today's battery saws can't touch a 261
😀 Great video. That chipper is a beast!
Thank you !
Well those saws weren't used 30 days. I am assuming he was giving them back to you? I'm pretty sure you don't have high voltage at the switch. I think the owner was clueless.
Loved the honesty of these guys
Thanks!!👍
I'll tell you I love our echo equipment and also our echo small limbing saw. But nothing beats a full size husky saw
I just got an echo Timberwolf and it's the best chainsaw I've owned. I've also got Stihl o29 , 039, ms271, 011, and a 441 magnum and that Timberwolf will cut through twice the wood that 441 Magnum will and that Magnums is 70 or 72 CC saw. And it's easy to get to everything on it I've cut about 50 cords with it the only problem I've had is an intake leak and I made a gasket and fix that. Bar none pound-for-pound I don't think there's nothing out there that will touch it
CS590 all the way love my timber wolves
I love my Timber wolf saw.
Dave Tumbleson ,That's is a Damn good saw with a good reputation, I have a Shindaiwa 358t top handle chainsaw & man I love it
Love the 590! Saw a video where it cut damn near the time frame that matched a Husky high end XP for less money. And by the way, I’m. Surprised Home Depot even sells them on the shelf in a box. The Timber Wolf is not a novice Saw. One wrong move and you’ll lose a limb. Reminds me a lot of my ol MS-440!
Echo was one of my first new saws cs370 16inch bar changed to Chisel chain works Great. Later on I got a Deal on a Used Husqvarna and a Sthil Farm Boss Both of these are Great saws
all we run is sthil a local echo dealer wanted me to try one of there saws and I hated it I took it back and told him he could keep the junk I'd keep my sthil
Kudos to Echo for taking on the challenge, and the data didn’t support their optimism after 30 days. Although on day1 there were echoes of greatness, Day 30 showed that the Steely-eyed professionals still stuck with Stihl!!! If you use a chainsaw daily or weekly, stick with Stihl/Husky. However, if like me you use a chainsaw monthly or less for 15-60 minutes at a time, you may not want to pay the Stihl premium and be satisfied with the Echo of quality.
I mus say that I had a Stihl 80 blower, Echo CS 340 top handle, and a Stihl 130R Kombi Unit. After 13 years the Dtil blower got replaced by a much larger Echo 440. that works like a charm. They all start right away, but I use stabilizer (either added to gas or already in ;2 cycle oils), AND drain the tanks and run them dry after use. I use Recycle and Fresh gas cans for each fuel type & mixing ratio.
A fair amount of what was said is a matter of personal opinion
Very true!
I like the Efco MTT 3600 Italian made arborist saw of very good quality.
Iv been using echo since 98 and won't use anything else
I told a echo rep the same thing as the tree guy did. 35 yrs ago. This was hand crews and cables skidders. Husky handled good cut good and would last six months. Sthil stand up better
Good honest information, and those little details make all the difference between a good saw and a shit one.
650 dollars an hour .just put the tree on fire.😅😅😅
for a crane and labor that is normal. Crane are rented at 4hr blocks of time.
A tree company can write off a top end saw, but the average home owner just using a saw a few times a year can get a better value out of the Echo brand. I've seen about 1,000 top rated saws break down to 1 Echo in a small engine shop.
Excellent video. Just the best
Thank you Johnny !
The problem with by the hour payment is that the customer never knows if you're working slowly just to get more money, whereas a fixed price for the tree can be compared between companies.
Never had a issue with echo,Stihls are going down hill.
Scott Foster echo is for sad people like you
I've never seen an Echo anything on a wildfire.
Well I'll be buying stihl from now on.
LOL
Prepare to have a huge repair bill/parts bill. You cannot order parts online for Stihl's either. You are locked into the dealer. I don't like Echo chainsaws (I have owned Echo chainsaws and had nothing but problems leaking oil, the chain oiler system not lubricating so chains wore down in 10 minutes of usage, etc...) The echo chainsaws always fired up year after year reliably, but oil lubrication and chain lubrication was a whole different set of issues.
My stihl chainsaw is good but again, I have to go to the dealer for parts/repairs. Echo/Husqvarna/Shindaiwa/Tanaka/Poulan/Hitachi/Everyone else and many other brands, you can fix yourself for cheap and order parts online through Amazon or eBay saving so much money. Echo blowers are extremely reliable and don't break ever. If they do (which is extremely rare), then I order parts online for a few bucks and it's back in business for years and years of daily usage servicing hundreds of properties each week, again for years.
Garrett Stevensen I have bought alot of parts online for my ms 260
Elliot Miller all i ever run
Lucas W. I love mine! Never had any issues.
I've had the same stihl 026 for 25 years and its finally quit. 30$ later new cylinder and piston and it's back to work probably for another 25 years. I also have a tiny echo 2511t love it but it's not the stihl.
Great honesty !
I'll put my 590 echo up against your sthil 036 any day. I've grew up cutting trees. My dad started his company 40 yrs ago and now I run it. The 590 is an awesome saw far as power and fuel economy. I run 24" bars on all of them skip tooth chain and will keep up no problem. BTW 036 sthil was my favorite till I figured out I can buy 2 echos for the price of 1 sthil. Far as the other echo saws I agree they are weak. I have 4 303t top handle 7 590s and 1 800 with 36" bar. The 303&800 leaks oil horrible.
I work for a landscaping company where I'm basicly the tree guy .
So I have to buy my own safety equipment (or go without) and am going to buy my own saws .
I feel there not running commercial quality equipment or flat out worn out saws.
My question is as I can't afford a still 661 for felling or anything remotely close , would this be a decent saw to use while I earned the money for a better saw.
My echo timber wolf has been a beast. The first 2 husqvarna saws I owned were junk
Fyi I've had my timber wolf 2 years now and only needed 2 adjustments. These guys I work with are taking there husky saws and stihl saws to the shop ever couple of weeks.
I would have liked to hear a little more on how the power compares to the saws not just that it's powerful, and the ease of starting compared to the others. Also does it have more or less power down at low RPM or up high compared to the others?
I use echo & stihl & no u don't need a funnel, they can all fill from the husky auto fill fuel tanks, the echo & stihl both have had their fuel & oil screw caps come loose & open, except the click in stihl which is much better, but the echo/stihl are fine by me & the shindaiwa saws which are beasts in action, hi torque units...their all good saws & u must keep an open mind on these units as i don't run huskies as i just had problems with their smaller units...so they went & i use the above only.
My company runs echo. It's been a effective brand. But we all know that they have some issues to work out. I enjoyed the video but alot of his complaints you find in the 334, 338, 445 as well. In which ever brand you use if used properly it can get the job done as long as it matches the size of the job. Except poulan. Don't use those. Or Remington. Just saying. Great video.
Appreciate the comments Terrell, thanks !
I use stihl, echo, & Shindaiwa products. I tune & service them myself regularly. They all perform well because I look after them. Each brand has certain models better than it's competitors. Do your research & you'll find one of any of the major brands to suit you. I've been using these products for over 10 years. For you purists, I've had unsatisfactory experience with Husqvarna products, twice! I'm not saying they're bad but just that my experience with them hasn't been good.
I think the point is that if $$$ is a factor and you need something you can run a business with then Echo will do it for you. Obviously if you're an established company with substantial cash flow you can just buy whatever you want. This is just simply not the case for a lot of guys or the homegamer that wants something nice for less than a Stihl or Husky.
I am in my second year with an Echo blower and it is starting to become hard to start. My Stihl trimmer is in its third year aand you would think it was just past its break in period.
Great to know👍
interesting. thanks for the comparison! I don't think I could give up my Stihl.
Thanks you for a nice, and honest video. I have a medium size Echo, Nice saw, but,,,when buying new I always go with Stihl.....If I'm spending $600, I might as well go $800. Also, I have a 30 year old Stihl 028, how many Echo saws can boast about their longevity ?
Love my stihl 260, grandfather tried getting me to use his new makita and I started cutting the tree with my gerber
Dont knock the makita. They brought out Dolmar who is one of the oldest pro saw makers out.
People like to give Echo a lot of crap but they make a solid product and are clearly working hard to close the gap between them and Stihl and Husky. I have a 620PW and I love it but as they mentioned in the video, that choke and the on/off switch are my two main complaints with it. If I were using it professionally those two things would likely be enough to push me towards Stihl or Husky but since I'm not it means I got a great saw with a couple small flaws for $300 less than a ms 362 or 562xp.
Echo is garbage it’s cheap homeowner equipment that is designed to fail so the customer keeps going back and buying more!
Buy Stihl it is the right choice .
Hooosqvarna..??
The dogs from up in Alaska that pull the sleds, you know, you probably call them Hoooskies, right..?? LoL.
Just because you had good luck with Echo doesn't make it a pro saw. Aslo, Professional saws get used hard everyday not just on a couple of jobs a year. So you can't compare those little Echo's to pro Husqvarna or Stihl chainsaws. 🤔
Great video though, thank you and God bless you and your family.
Thanks for the input, glad you liked the video
What's crazy to me is the ground guy Kyle mentioned he used a stihl 029 and Husqvarna 455, both farm/rancher saws. Wonder how they would like the equivalent pro saw like stihl 260-261 and 361
Not talking down echo, used a few of there saws. But the controls on the echo saws are a bit weak to me.
once again miss spoke sorry i was working and just was on the spot if u watch you can clearly see that we never once us any rancher s or029 its all husky xps or 046 066 150 200t 201t you guys need to just chill im not a tv guy im a lumber jack my bad
Love the comparison videos
028, 029? I have not seen an 028 on a professional job in the 10 years that I have been fixing saws. Most of my clients run MS310, 361, 362, 441, 460, 461, 660, 661 for ground saws. Some run in addition the smaller MS170-MS251 for light ground work and newer employees. I had a good friend (may he rip, I loved him, chemo victim) who had an Echo CS500P that was a great saw, it had a lot of low rpm grunt and rarely bogged down in the cut. It did not rev as quite as high as the Stihls, but was impressive and ran head to head with my MS361 and MS310.The MS261 and MS261C are great saws, although I see very few pros buying them. I repaired one and took it out to one of my customers jobs to test it and the next time I saw him, he had purchased one!Oh btw, they were tearing the heck out of that lawn. lol
I used echo chain saws for 7 yrs and not once have I had any trouble never I have 2 timber wolf and 1 16inch bar chain saw and I have a weed trimmer with saw etachment and never had any problems I would never go to any other saw ever
I’m looking a a saw, more for wood carving.. they had no complaints about power, that’s what I expected. Stahl has always been the saw I have known. For me echo may need a look over
I think echo is great for home owners or farms.. and my saw did leak bar oil . All I did to fix that was turn down my oiling adjustment screw . It was turned all the way up. I all so went though my saw and adjusted every thing .. have not had a problem with it yet .. sat all winter full of fuel and bar oil . Fired right up no problem ... had it for 2 yrs now
I have a echo CS 335 t For about five years Never had problems with that
Great video,
Thank you Steven !
what saws did echo let him use?
use the cs501 is newer on the market. why not get them the cs590. 600p,and or the 620?
or did you not have any say so?
Dave Tumbleson Echo didn't trust the cs590 enough to let a real tree company use it for 30 days.
LOL😃👍
I commend Echo for stepping up. They make good stuff.
Good Job !
The saw did sound great !
Actually I own a echo CS 590, never had a problem with it leaking gas or oil, performance is fantastic, I've never had a problem with that chainsaw , all my Stihl saws have been gone for 3 years
I paid a guy to come in and remove a huge silver maple from in front of my house. None of the big fancy equipment this guy has.He was a hell of a climber with just a 2 man crew and a couple nice husky saws. Couldn't believe how quick they had that tree down. Why? Because he didn't stand around trying to convince the world his equipment was the best there was.
I agree echo makes the best trimmer and blowers but the saws are a little behind.
I've run them all. Stihl is better balanced and feels more natural to hold. They are harder to start but easy to aquire parts and service for. Husky and Echo are next best imo.
I hate to say it, but I knew how this was going to end. I manage/purchase equipment for a full service landscape company and I personally run Stihl MS260, MS362 and an old 066 Magnum. However, for the company I actually prefer Echo. Our laborers do only ground level saw work, no elevated cutting whatsoever. Even though we train our crews on proper care and maint. of the saws, they get treated quite poorly in part because they are not running them on a daily basis.
I have found the Echo to be the most affordable, reliable saw we can put into their hands. They are indeed heavier and bulkier, but they are more reliable than the homeowner grade saws from the big two. Of the (I hate this term) disposable saws on the market, they are definitely above their competition. I won't spend the $$$ on pro grade tools for part time sawyers. It's a lot cheaper to replace a smashed or burned up Echo than a pro saw, yet we need something more durable than the Stihl or Electrolux homeowner models... That's right Husqvarna Lovers, I said Electrolux! I love the premo Husqys, but the base models of Stihl and Husq. are junk. If you're a pro, buy the good stuff and don't complain about the price tag. If you're not cutting for a living and can't justify the price of the Premium units, buy the Echo. But whatever you buy...Take Proper Care of it!
Great, honest video. I'll be looking into more of your content.
I have few professional echo chainsaws and after the first 5 months of using I’m afraid to turn them off after running for 5 minutes I have so much trouble getting them back on sometimes I feel like throwing the saws to the ground I’m going back to stihl chainsaws
Echo PAS 266 with the pruner head and extensions works well for tree pruning jobs I do. All the chainsaws I run are Stihl but even then you have to spend the money and get a professional grade saw. I'm sure Echo chainsaws are just as good as any brand of homeowner or mid-range saw. A person should probably get some cutting experience and safety lessons on a less aggressive saw anyway before making the jump up.
I just switched to the echo climbing saw. Because i have had problems with the newer stihls and husquavarnas.
I was on a job and dropped my Sthil top handle saw 50 feet on a rock (long story,old worn out lanyard, I'm an idiot). I needed a saw ASAP as heavy winds had rocked my area for almost 2 days prior to this one and our phone was blowing up.
The closest Sthil or Husky dealer was about 40 miles away. There was however a small mom and pop Echo Dealer less than a mile away that happened to have a 271T in stock that was used as a demo saw. He told me to use it to finish the job I was on and bring it back at the end of the day.
That was over 4 years ago. I still have it and use it daily. I paid almost half of the MSRP for it. It is awesome, as that little saw just doesn't quit! It weighs less than my other saw. It is a few CC's smaller but you would think it's bigger when you run it.The only negative is the small filler cap size for the gas and oil along with the type and location of the lanyard loop. IMHO, the Echo is as good as or better than the Sthil or Husky arborist saws and a lot cheaper.