I had my implant surgery on Oct 4 2023 and I'm still recovering but I think I like the implant, as time goes by I pray I won't have all the pain I once had. My help and strength comes from the Lord!
From someone who has been through everything you spoke about it was truly a life changer to get the stimulator . The bad thing is that after 2 years of being virtually pain free the stimulator is not working as it use to resulting in having a pain pump implanted . I hope that doesn't't happen to you . God Bless .
Yup. Me too. I have the Abbott, and it was literally Flawless, now, I just had to increase my stimulation again, after doing this last month for the first time. I hope this will taper off and still work for pain relief again. Bummer. 16 years of pain gone, now coming back again in almost 1 year; maybe from my over working body parts? Sorry for your results.
I just had the trial device put in yesterday. I am up and walking with a gate that I haven’t had for years, no more weakness and limping because of pain… instant relief. The pain from the procedure is pretty bad. Kind of feels like a punch to the lower back. This is normally done after a failed surgery, but I don’t understand why they don’t try this on everyone first if applicable.
Your functional improvement is wonderful! I hope your post-procedure pain is improving. So glad you decided to do the spinal cord stimulator trial. One of the first large studies looking at spinal cord stimulation (in the 1990s) compared two groups of patients who still had pain after lumbar spine surgery - those who had spinal cord stimulators implanted and those who had re-operation after lumbar fusion. The spinal cord stimulation patients did better! Unfortunately, why spinal cord stimulation is not done first is because some insurances don't approve it. Also, many people don't know their options; their primary care doctors may refer them to a spine surgeon first. My hope is that videos like this will let people in pain know that there are minimally invasive options that they can test drive before an incision is even made! Pain management specialists first goal is to safely reduce your pain and make you more functional with a better quality of life. We will fight for you if you would like to try spinal cord stimulation for your pain.
@@singamd I just had the trial leads taken out yesterday and they are scheduling the full “install”. My only problem is that because of a few things like my unusually small spinal cord canal and my age (younger than usual) and activity levels anticipated, they are putting in paddles. This is apparently a more invasive procedure and requires the removal of bone etc, but I think I am going to go forward with it anyway. Thoughts? Thanks again.
@@TitanFlyer2015 A paddle lead will offer the benefit of less migration, which is appropriate given your anticipated activity level. Although a paddle implant is more invasive than an implant with percutaneous electrodes, performing a laminectomy and implanting a paddle lead is still minimally invasive surgery - thus there should not be, comparatively, a more significant amount of postoperative pain. An important consideration with paddle leads is its removal is more involved than explanting percutaneous electrodes.
@@singamd Probably not the best place to have this discussion, but maybe others will find it helpful. With respect to the removal, does that have to happen at some point, or can it just stay in there turned off forever? I assume some day my back will begin to have pain again, and I will possibly have to have more aggressive forms of surgery to help, so would they just take it out at that point? I can always ask the surgeon when I see him, but thought I would ask here for the benefit of others watching the video.
@@TitanFlyer2015 Whether a paddle leads or percutaneous electrodes, those and the pulse generator (battery) can stay in the body forever, even if not used. There has been no instance of battery leaks and it is made of titanium, so it is very durable. If future surgery is performed on the low back, it may be possible to avoid removing the electrodes if those are not in the way of the planned surgery (as the placement of the electrodes/paddle are usually higher than the spine pathology causing the pain issues). If they are in the way, the surgeon can remove it and often does so during that surgery itself.
Glad to hear its working I'm trying to get one my neck and back pain is getting worse by the day and you can't even get pain meds for someone who really needs them and never abused them
My pain management doctor mentioned this during my second lumbar epidural injection. 2 weeks after the first injection I was feeling worse than before the injection. I had the second 😅injection yesterday. I do feel better but I'm not convinced it will last. The hesitation I have is that I have a diagnosis of lateral recess stenosis, and a procedure called an endoscopic lamenotomy was recommended by an orthopedic spinal surgeon. This procedure involves removing excess bone from arthritis some of the thickened igamentum flavum and some of the protruding disc to clear out the foramen for the pinched nerve roots. Since it's done endoscopically. It is a same day outpatient procedure and recovery time is a day or two. I am not interested in managing my pain. I want to resolve the cause of it.
I have a spinal cord stimulator also but like everything else ive done and tried after a while it doesn't help as with everything ive done im so sooo tired of living in pain day in and day out pain in the morning and at night just soo done with it
I, too, am at the fork in the road they have suggested the same thing. I am guessing im going to have to wait not sure how long i am having 2nd total hip surgery and the risk of infection they may want me to wait.Thank you for putting up your story it is encouraging for me. 😊
I had a stimulator put into my back in 2016. My surgeon that did a few of my back surgeries was able to eliminate a lot of the nerve pain I had. I don’t need to use the stimulator any more, but I get a buzzing from my ribs down to my toes on both legs. The buzzing comes and goes and can be very intense even though the stimulator has not been on for more than a year. I am going to discuss having it removed with my surgeon early next year. By the way, the buzzing makes me feel like I’m freezing cold, even in the summer in Reno, NV.
It would not be a bad idea to see someone to order imaging of your thoracic and lumbar spine to see the electrodes moved. If electrodes migrate laterally then it could cause rib pain. Removal of a spinal cord stimulator system is usually a simple procedure. In addition, another good reason to have imaging is there may be worsening spine pathology.
I have the Abbott brand and no Buzzing, or charging. When it stimulates for 30 second intervals, I feel nothing, then it is off for 1 minute 30 seconds before repeating pulse. Sorry for your mishap.
Yes, it is possible. There are several articles discussing how spinal cord stimulation helped spinal cord injury patients regain their motor function. The references for some of those articles are below: Seáñez, I., Capogrosso, M. Motor improvements enabled by spinal cord stimulation combined with physical training after spinal cord injury: review of experimental evidence in animals and humans. Bioelectron Med 7, 16 (2021). doi.org/10.1186/s42234-021-00077-5 Tsai ST, Chen YC, Cheng HY, Lin CH, Lin HC, Yang CH, Liang CC, Chen SY. Spinal cord stimulation for spinal cord injury patients with paralysis: To regain walking and dignity. Tzu Chi Med J. 2020 Aug 26;33(1):29-33. doi: 10.4103/tcmj.tcmj_53_20. PMID: 33505875; PMCID: PMC7821832. Hachmann JT, Yousak A, Wallner JJ, Gad PN, Edgerton VR, Gorgey AS. Epidural spinal cord stimulation as an intervention for motor recovery after motor complete spinal cord injury. J Neurophysiol. 2021 Dec 1;126(6):1843-1859. doi: 10.1152/jn.00020.2021. Epub 2021 Oct 20. PMID: 34669485. Inanici F, Brighton LN, Samejima S, Hofstetter CP, Moritz CT. Transcutaneous Spinal Cord Stimulation Restores Hand and Arm Function After Spinal Cord Injury. IEEE Trans Neural Syst Rehabil Eng. 2021;29:310-319. doi: 10.1109/TNSRE.2021.3049133. Epub 2021 Mar 2. PMID: 33400652. Rowald A, Komi S, Demesmaeker R, Baaklini E, Hernandez-Charpak SD, Paoles E, Montanaro H, Cassara A, Becce F, Lloyd B, Newton T, Ravier J, Kinany N, D'Ercole M, Paley A, Hankov N, Varescon C, McCracken L, Vat M, Caban M, Watrin A, Jacquet C, Bole-Feysot L, Harte C, Lorach H, Galvez A, Tschopp M, Herrmann N, Wacker M, Geernaert L, Fodor I, Radevich V, Van Den Keybus K, Eberle G, Pralong E, Roulet M, Ledoux JB, Fornari E, Mandija S, Mattera L, Martuzzi R, Nazarian B, Benkler S, Callegari S, Greiner N, Fuhrer B, Froeling M, Buse N, Denison T, Buschman R, Wende C, Ganty D, Bakker J, Delattre V, Lambert H, Minassian K, van den Berg CAT, Kavounoudias A, Micera S, Van De Ville D, Barraud Q, Kurt E, Kuster N, Neufeld E, Capogrosso M, Asboth L, Wagner FB, Bloch J, Courtine G. Activity-dependent spinal cord neuromodulation rapidly restores trunk and leg motor functions after complete paralysis. Nat Med. 2022 Feb;28(2):260-271. doi: 10.1038/s41591-021-01663-5. Epub 2022 Feb 7. PMID: 35132264. Calvert JS, Grahn PJ, Strommen JA, Lavrov IA, Beck LA, Gill ML, Linde MB, Brown DA, Van Straaten MG, Veith DD, Lopez C, Sayenko DG, Gerasimenko YP, Edgerton VR, Zhao KD, Lee KH. Electrophysiological Guidance of Epidural Electrode Array Implantation over the Human Lumbosacral Spinal Cord to Enable Motor Function after Chronic Paralysis. J Neurotrauma. 2019 May 1;36(9):1451-1460. doi: 10.1089/neu.2018.5921. Epub 2018 Dec 15. PMID: 30430902; PMCID: PMC6482916.
It depends on your symptoms, not just the presence of spinal stenosis. For example, if you have sciatic pain or pain radiating down the legs from the back, because of lumbar spinal stenosis, then it would likely be helpful. However, if you have only back pain and have lumbar spinal stenosis, it may not help your back pain. I would really recommend you meet with a specialist to discuss your pain, the cause of your pain, and if there are other options, such as injections.
Yeah I'd say he's feeling no pain 15 mis after surgery. I hope not! I'm getting the trial 12-11-23. I'm kind of scared. I'm doing it . I haven't been able to walk for a 1 year and 7 months. Thanks for the video
Yes, spinal cord stimulation can be used for small fiber neuropathy and it should provide significant relief because that is a nerve disorder. In fact, there is evidence from studies that spinal cord stimulation can enhance small fiber nerve regeneration.
Alot of doctors try to encourage patients to get a neurostimulator and I would never consider this as a vital option. Just knowing each time you need a battery replaced they must make a incision to remove the device. Each incision giving you scar tissue which within itself isn't a very good idea with the issues that can arise from this. Rather undergo a surgical permanent nerve block by killing the nerve with alcohol than to have to contend with the maintenance and financial upkeep of a neurostimulator. Curious of financial kickbacks doctors get to push neurostimulators onto their patients or is it the upkeep overtime that motivates the big agenda?
Yes, don’t do it! Do some reading…see below. Do research on any device that will be used on or in your body. Get a second opinion for any risky surgery. As your surgeon how many surgeries he/she has done. Have a family member or friend be an advocate at the hospital. To see if your physician has been paid by a medical device company go to openpaymentsdata dot cms dot gov. What a terrible idea…too many complications, too many neurological injuries, too many re-operations due to shifting leads from poor anchoring and poor design, too many infections (remember these devices will be treated as an invader by your body), too many cases of epidural fibrosis, too many cases of epidural hematomas, no efficacy it actual works in the unbiased studies. The medical device industry is more powerful than the pharmaceuticals. Physicians are getting paid $1500 for the trial and $20k+ for the permanent install of an SCS. Yet, there is little evidence the device actually works. The FDA approval process is greatly flawed and hurting patients. The manufacturers (Boston Scientific, Nevro, Abbot, Medtronic, Saluda, etc) have ‘studies’ for less than a month…with little follow up after. On devices that HAVE NOT been tested by the FDA is humans. Think about that. The FDA has completed one (1) studies in almost a quarter century. If you want to consent to this ‘medical treatment’ make sure you do your homework. What a terrible idea and ‘treatment’. There is scientific psychology/medical treatment for pain and SCS has no role… you people are doing this for money and you are hurting patients. -Corporate Influences on Science and Health-the Case of Spinal Cord Stimulation. JAMA Network. December 18, 2023. -Spinal cord stimulation doesn't help with back pain, says new review University of Sydney/Cochrane Review. March 7, 2023 -Long-term Outcomes in Use of Opioids, Nonpharmacologic Pain Interventions, and Total Costs of Spinal Cord Stimulators Compared With Conventional Medical Therapy for Chronic Pain JAMA Neurol. 2023;80(1):18-29. Published online November 28, 2022. -Spinal Cord Stimulators for Chronic Pain May Not Live Up to the Hype Medpage Today (2022). -Insurers call for ban on spinal cord stimulator subsidies after new trial The Sydney Morning Herald October 27, 2022 -To Hell and Back: Devices meant to ease pain are causing trauma The Sydney Morning Herald February, 5 2022 -Spinal Cord Stimulators: An Analysis of the Adverse Events Reported to the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration Journal of Patient Safety (2022) Aug; 18(5): 507-511. -Complications of epidural spinal stimulation: lessons from the past and alternatives for the future. International Spinal Cord Society (2020) 48:1049-1059 -Implanted Spinal Cord Stimulators for Pain Relief: Illustrating the FDA’s Dangerously Lax Oversight of High-Risk Implantable Medical Devices Public Citizen, June 2020 Michael A. Carome, M.D.
What’s up with all the music interruptions? Yuck!… Let the man speak for Pete sakes! My Medtronic stimulator implant failed after 4 months and had to be removed. I wonder if this man was ever evaluated for Arachnoiditis?
Yes, it is possible. There are several articles discussing how spinal cord stimulation helped spinal cord injury patients regain their motor function. The references for some of those articles are below: Seáñez, I., Capogrosso, M. Motor improvements enabled by spinal cord stimulation combined with physical training after spinal cord injury: review of experimental evidence in animals and humans. Bioelectron Med 7, 16 (2021). doi.org/10.1186/s42234-021-00077-5 Tsai ST, Chen YC, Cheng HY, Lin CH, Lin HC, Yang CH, Liang CC, Chen SY. Spinal cord stimulation for spinal cord injury patients with paralysis: To regain walking and dignity. Tzu Chi Med J. 2020 Aug 26;33(1):29-33. doi: 10.4103/tcmj.tcmj_53_20. PMID: 33505875; PMCID: PMC7821832. Hachmann JT, Yousak A, Wallner JJ, Gad PN, Edgerton VR, Gorgey AS. Epidural spinal cord stimulation as an intervention for motor recovery after motor complete spinal cord injury. J Neurophysiol. 2021 Dec 1;126(6):1843-1859. doi: 10.1152/jn.00020.2021. Epub 2021 Oct 20. PMID: 34669485. Inanici F, Brighton LN, Samejima S, Hofstetter CP, Moritz CT. Transcutaneous Spinal Cord Stimulation Restores Hand and Arm Function After Spinal Cord Injury. IEEE Trans Neural Syst Rehabil Eng. 2021;29:310-319. doi: 10.1109/TNSRE.2021.3049133. Epub 2021 Mar 2. PMID: 33400652. Rowald A, Komi S, Demesmaeker R, Baaklini E, Hernandez-Charpak SD, Paoles E, Montanaro H, Cassara A, Becce F, Lloyd B, Newton T, Ravier J, Kinany N, D'Ercole M, Paley A, Hankov N, Varescon C, McCracken L, Vat M, Caban M, Watrin A, Jacquet C, Bole-Feysot L, Harte C, Lorach H, Galvez A, Tschopp M, Herrmann N, Wacker M, Geernaert L, Fodor I, Radevich V, Van Den Keybus K, Eberle G, Pralong E, Roulet M, Ledoux JB, Fornari E, Mandija S, Mattera L, Martuzzi R, Nazarian B, Benkler S, Callegari S, Greiner N, Fuhrer B, Froeling M, Buse N, Denison T, Buschman R, Wende C, Ganty D, Bakker J, Delattre V, Lambert H, Minassian K, van den Berg CAT, Kavounoudias A, Micera S, Van De Ville D, Barraud Q, Kurt E, Kuster N, Neufeld E, Capogrosso M, Asboth L, Wagner FB, Bloch J, Courtine G. Activity-dependent spinal cord neuromodulation rapidly restores trunk and leg motor functions after complete paralysis. Nat Med. 2022 Feb;28(2):260-271. doi: 10.1038/s41591-021-01663-5. Epub 2022 Feb 7. PMID: 35132264. Calvert JS, Grahn PJ, Strommen JA, Lavrov IA, Beck LA, Gill ML, Linde MB, Brown DA, Van Straaten MG, Veith DD, Lopez C, Sayenko DG, Gerasimenko YP, Edgerton VR, Zhao KD, Lee KH. Electrophysiological Guidance of Epidural Electrode Array Implantation over the Human Lumbosacral Spinal Cord to Enable Motor Function after Chronic Paralysis. J Neurotrauma. 2019 May 1;36(9):1451-1460. doi: 10.1089/neu.2018.5921. Epub 2018 Dec 15. PMID: 30430902; PMCID: PMC6482916.
At this time, spinal cord stimulation is FDA approved for pain relief. Using spinal cord stimulation for motor function restoration after paralysis is in the experimental phases and there is not enough data to provide outcome information. I would not recommend doing spinal cord stimulation with the expectation that it will reverse paralysis due to spinal cord injury. However, there is hope with research studies and I would recommend looking into those for possible enrollment if the goal is standing and walking again. A Swiss study placed the spinal cord stimulator electrodes directly on the spinal cord in men with thoracic spinal cord injuries - the article interviews a paralyzed man who is now "able to stand, walk, swim, and cycle again." www.statnews.com/2022/02/07/walking-again-after-paralysis-early-study-suggests-stimulation-could-jolt-spinal-cord-back-to-life/
Having has a spine stim done...for me it was a fail...more like turning on the radio to not hear the car engine....when you do the trial, the battery is outside your body n tiny incision for the leads... but when it s implanted, a pocket is made for the battery and the leads are another incision...this was done close to my 30 year incision from L4/L5 fusion...the incision for the leads merged with the old scar and my situation is now worse than ever...went to lots of doctors afterward it was all removed to no avail to repair the damage done...I do not recommend this pricey "solution".
They say batteries last 10 yrs but they don’t last long in general. If you’re adjusting it for high pain use it lasts about 2 years. They don’t tell you that. They just give the best scenario s.
I had my implant surgery on Oct 4 2023 and I'm still recovering but I think I like the implant, as time goes by I pray I won't have all the pain I once had. My help and strength comes from the Lord!
From someone who has been through everything you spoke about it was truly a life changer to get the stimulator . The bad thing is that after 2 years of being virtually pain free the stimulator is not working as it use to resulting in having a pain pump implanted . I hope that doesn't't happen to you . God Bless .
Yup. Me too. I have the Abbott, and it was literally Flawless, now, I just had to increase my stimulation again, after doing this last month for the first time. I hope this will taper off and still work for pain relief again. Bummer. 16 years of pain gone, now coming back again in almost 1 year; maybe from my over working body parts? Sorry for your results.
I agree just try it I just finished my 7day trial instant relief
How are you feeling? Getting mine on the 30th of this month
What a heart-warming video! It seems that man did so well with the pain blocker.
I just had the trial device put in yesterday. I am up and walking with a gate that I haven’t had for years, no more weakness and limping because of pain… instant relief. The pain from the procedure is pretty bad. Kind of feels like a punch to the lower back. This is normally done after a failed surgery, but I don’t understand why they don’t try this on everyone first if applicable.
Your functional improvement is wonderful! I hope your post-procedure pain is improving. So glad you decided to do the spinal cord stimulator trial.
One of the first large studies looking at spinal cord stimulation (in the 1990s) compared two groups of patients who still had pain after lumbar spine surgery - those who had spinal cord stimulators implanted and those who had re-operation after lumbar fusion. The spinal cord stimulation patients did better!
Unfortunately, why spinal cord stimulation is not done first is because some insurances don't approve it. Also, many people don't know their options; their primary care doctors may refer them to a spine surgeon first. My hope is that videos like this will let people in pain know that there are minimally invasive options that they can test drive before an incision is even made! Pain management specialists first goal is to safely reduce your pain and make you more functional with a better quality of life. We will fight for you if you would like to try spinal cord stimulation for your pain.
@@singamd I just had the trial leads taken out yesterday and they are scheduling the full “install”. My only problem is that because of a few things like my unusually small spinal cord canal and my age (younger than usual) and activity levels anticipated, they are putting in paddles. This is apparently a more invasive procedure and requires the removal of bone etc, but I think I am going to go forward with it anyway. Thoughts? Thanks again.
@@TitanFlyer2015 A paddle lead will offer the benefit of less migration, which is appropriate given your anticipated activity level. Although a paddle implant is more invasive than an implant with percutaneous electrodes, performing a laminectomy and implanting a paddle lead is still minimally invasive surgery - thus there should not be, comparatively, a more significant amount of postoperative pain. An important consideration with paddle leads is its removal is more involved than explanting percutaneous electrodes.
@@singamd Probably not the best place to have this discussion, but maybe others will find it helpful. With respect to the removal, does that have to happen at some point, or can it just stay in there turned off forever? I assume some day my back will begin to have pain again, and I will possibly have to have more aggressive forms of surgery to help, so would they just take it out at that point? I can always ask the surgeon when I see him, but thought I would ask here for the benefit of others watching the video.
@@TitanFlyer2015 Whether a paddle leads or percutaneous electrodes, those and the pulse generator (battery) can stay in the body forever, even if not used. There has been no instance of battery leaks and it is made of titanium, so it is very durable. If future surgery is performed on the low back, it may be possible to avoid removing the electrodes if those are not in the way of the planned surgery (as the placement of the electrodes/paddle are usually higher than the spine pathology causing the pain issues). If they are in the way, the surgeon can remove it and often does so during that surgery itself.
I'm scheduled for the trail on Wednesday morning the 23rd of August. Can't wait to get my life back
Very excited for you and looking forward to hearing how you do with the trial!
Glad to hear its working I'm trying to get one my neck and back pain is getting worse by the day and you can't even get pain meds for someone who really needs them and never abused them
My pain management doctor mentioned this during my second lumbar epidural injection. 2 weeks after the first injection I was feeling worse than before the injection. I had the second 😅injection yesterday. I do feel better but I'm not convinced it will last. The hesitation I have is that I have a diagnosis of lateral recess stenosis, and a procedure called an endoscopic lamenotomy was recommended by an orthopedic spinal surgeon. This procedure involves removing excess bone from arthritis some of the thickened igamentum flavum and some of the protruding disc to clear out the foramen for the pinched nerve roots. Since it's done endoscopically. It is a same day outpatient procedure and recovery time is a day or two.
I am not interested in managing my pain. I want to resolve the cause of it.
I have a spinal cord stimulator also but like everything else ive done and tried after a while it doesn't help as with everything ive done im so sooo tired of living in pain day in and day out pain in the morning and at night just soo done with it
I, too, am at the fork in the road they have suggested the same thing. I am guessing im going to have to wait not sure how long i am having 2nd total hip surgery and the risk of infection they may want me to wait.Thank you for putting up your story it is encouraging for me. 😊
Maybe next interview wait tol theyre not so full of anesthetic...cant make out a lot of what he's saying, esp in the beginning
I had a stimulator put into my back in 2016. My surgeon that did a few of my back surgeries was able to eliminate a lot of the nerve pain I had. I don’t need to use the stimulator any more, but I get a buzzing from my ribs down to my toes on both legs. The buzzing comes and goes and can be very intense even though the stimulator has not been on for more than a year. I am going to discuss having it removed with my surgeon early next year. By the way, the buzzing makes me feel like I’m freezing cold, even in the summer in Reno, NV.
It would not be a bad idea to see someone to order imaging of your thoracic and lumbar spine to see the electrodes moved. If electrodes migrate laterally then it could cause rib pain. Removal of a spinal cord stimulator system is usually a simple procedure. In addition, another good reason to have imaging is there may be worsening spine pathology.
I have the Abbott brand and no Buzzing, or charging. When it stimulates for 30 second intervals, I feel nothing, then it is off for 1 minute 30 seconds before repeating pulse. Sorry for your mishap.
Hell Dr, is it true that the spinal cord can be stimulated for spinal cord injuries, and can paralysis patients benefit from this procedure?
Yes, it is possible. There are several articles discussing how spinal cord stimulation helped spinal cord injury patients regain their motor function. The references for some of those articles are below:
Seáñez, I., Capogrosso, M. Motor improvements enabled by spinal cord stimulation combined with physical training after spinal cord injury: review of experimental evidence in animals and humans. Bioelectron Med 7, 16 (2021). doi.org/10.1186/s42234-021-00077-5
Tsai ST, Chen YC, Cheng HY, Lin CH, Lin HC, Yang CH, Liang CC, Chen SY. Spinal cord stimulation for spinal cord injury patients with paralysis: To regain walking and dignity. Tzu Chi Med J. 2020 Aug 26;33(1):29-33. doi: 10.4103/tcmj.tcmj_53_20. PMID: 33505875; PMCID: PMC7821832.
Hachmann JT, Yousak A, Wallner JJ, Gad PN, Edgerton VR, Gorgey AS. Epidural spinal cord stimulation as an intervention for motor recovery after motor complete spinal cord injury. J Neurophysiol. 2021 Dec 1;126(6):1843-1859. doi: 10.1152/jn.00020.2021. Epub 2021 Oct 20. PMID: 34669485.
Inanici F, Brighton LN, Samejima S, Hofstetter CP, Moritz CT. Transcutaneous Spinal Cord Stimulation Restores Hand and Arm Function After Spinal Cord Injury. IEEE Trans Neural Syst Rehabil Eng. 2021;29:310-319. doi: 10.1109/TNSRE.2021.3049133. Epub 2021 Mar 2. PMID: 33400652.
Rowald A, Komi S, Demesmaeker R, Baaklini E, Hernandez-Charpak SD, Paoles E, Montanaro H, Cassara A, Becce F, Lloyd B, Newton T, Ravier J, Kinany N, D'Ercole M, Paley A, Hankov N, Varescon C, McCracken L, Vat M, Caban M, Watrin A, Jacquet C, Bole-Feysot L, Harte C, Lorach H, Galvez A, Tschopp M, Herrmann N, Wacker M, Geernaert L, Fodor I, Radevich V, Van Den Keybus K, Eberle G, Pralong E, Roulet M, Ledoux JB, Fornari E, Mandija S, Mattera L, Martuzzi R, Nazarian B, Benkler S, Callegari S, Greiner N, Fuhrer B, Froeling M, Buse N, Denison T, Buschman R, Wende C, Ganty D, Bakker J, Delattre V, Lambert H, Minassian K, van den Berg CAT, Kavounoudias A, Micera S, Van De Ville D, Barraud Q, Kurt E, Kuster N, Neufeld E, Capogrosso M, Asboth L, Wagner FB, Bloch J, Courtine G. Activity-dependent spinal cord neuromodulation rapidly restores trunk and leg motor functions after complete paralysis. Nat Med. 2022 Feb;28(2):260-271. doi: 10.1038/s41591-021-01663-5. Epub 2022 Feb 7. PMID: 35132264.
Calvert JS, Grahn PJ, Strommen JA, Lavrov IA, Beck LA, Gill ML, Linde MB, Brown DA, Van Straaten MG, Veith DD, Lopez C, Sayenko DG, Gerasimenko YP, Edgerton VR, Zhao KD, Lee KH. Electrophysiological Guidance of Epidural Electrode Array Implantation over the Human Lumbosacral Spinal Cord to Enable Motor Function after Chronic Paralysis. J Neurotrauma. 2019 May 1;36(9):1451-1460. doi: 10.1089/neu.2018.5921. Epub 2018 Dec 15. PMID: 30430902; PMCID: PMC6482916.
My daughter had the surgery and she had a broken piece of metal lodge in her spine and now she is in constant pain with no recourse
What is the patient’s cost for this procedure with insurance?
Could you please tell me Is this good for lumbar spinal stenosis ?
It depends on your symptoms, not just the presence of spinal stenosis.
For example, if you have sciatic pain or pain radiating down the legs from the back, because of lumbar spinal stenosis, then it would likely be helpful. However, if you have only back pain and have lumbar spinal stenosis, it may not help your back pain.
I would really recommend you meet with a specialist to discuss your pain, the cause of your pain, and if there are other options, such as injections.
Yeah I'd say he's feeling no pain 15 mis after surgery. I hope not! I'm getting the trial 12-11-23. I'm kind of scared. I'm doing it . I haven't been able to walk for a 1 year and 7 months. Thanks for the video
As soon as I get mental evaluation I'm gonna get mine and I'm so scared but I'm in constant pain so I'm willing to try it at this point
Hello
Can use spinal cord stimulator for neuropathy pain ( small fiber neuropathy)
Tingling in all my body
Numbness in legs and arms
Yes, spinal cord stimulation can be used for small fiber neuropathy and it should provide significant relief because that is a nerve disorder. In fact, there is evidence from studies that spinal cord stimulation can enhance small fiber nerve regeneration.
Alot of doctors try to encourage patients to get a neurostimulator and I would never consider this as a vital option. Just knowing each time you need a battery replaced they must make a incision to remove the device. Each incision giving you scar tissue which within itself isn't a very good idea with the issues that can arise from this. Rather undergo a surgical permanent nerve block by killing the nerve with alcohol than to have to contend with the maintenance and financial upkeep of a neurostimulator. Curious of financial kickbacks doctors get to push neurostimulators onto their patients or is it the upkeep overtime that motivates the big agenda?
The rechargeable battery implanted lasts about ten years.
I feel the same as you . They seem to really push this.
Yes, don’t do it!
Do some reading…see below. Do research on any device that will be used on or in your body. Get a second opinion for any risky surgery. As your surgeon how many surgeries he/she has done. Have a family member or friend be an advocate at the hospital. To see if your physician has been paid by a medical device company go to openpaymentsdata dot cms dot gov.
What a terrible idea…too many complications, too many neurological injuries, too many re-operations due to shifting leads from poor anchoring and poor design, too many infections (remember these devices will be treated as an invader by your body), too many cases of epidural fibrosis, too many cases of epidural hematomas, no efficacy it actual works in the unbiased studies. The medical device industry is more powerful than the pharmaceuticals. Physicians are getting paid $1500 for the trial and $20k+ for the permanent install of an SCS. Yet, there is little evidence the device actually works. The FDA approval process is greatly flawed and hurting patients. The manufacturers (Boston Scientific, Nevro, Abbot, Medtronic, Saluda, etc) have ‘studies’ for less than a month…with little follow up after. On devices that HAVE NOT been tested by the FDA is humans. Think about that. The FDA has completed one (1) studies in almost a quarter century. If you want to consent to this ‘medical treatment’ make sure you do your homework. What a terrible idea and ‘treatment’. There is scientific psychology/medical treatment for pain and SCS has no role… you people are doing this for money and you are hurting patients.
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Well… maybe they are pushing it because they believe it works?? Not everything is about a financial gain.
What’s up with all the music interruptions? Yuck!… Let the man speak for Pete sakes! My Medtronic stimulator implant failed after 4 months and had to be removed. I wonder if this man was ever evaluated for Arachnoiditis?
Won't lie i would concider this. im to young not to be able to play with my kids and be a mom. Which would then help my Fibro.
Does it make d4 injury people to get back on their feet again as in standing and walking?
Yes, it is possible. There are several articles discussing how spinal cord stimulation helped spinal cord injury patients regain their motor function. The references for some of those articles are below:
Seáñez, I., Capogrosso, M. Motor improvements enabled by spinal cord stimulation combined with physical training after spinal cord injury: review of experimental evidence in animals and humans. Bioelectron Med 7, 16 (2021). doi.org/10.1186/s42234-021-00077-5
Tsai ST, Chen YC, Cheng HY, Lin CH, Lin HC, Yang CH, Liang CC, Chen SY. Spinal cord stimulation for spinal cord injury patients with paralysis: To regain walking and dignity. Tzu Chi Med J. 2020 Aug 26;33(1):29-33. doi: 10.4103/tcmj.tcmj_53_20. PMID: 33505875; PMCID: PMC7821832.
Hachmann JT, Yousak A, Wallner JJ, Gad PN, Edgerton VR, Gorgey AS. Epidural spinal cord stimulation as an intervention for motor recovery after motor complete spinal cord injury. J Neurophysiol. 2021 Dec 1;126(6):1843-1859. doi: 10.1152/jn.00020.2021. Epub 2021 Oct 20. PMID: 34669485.
Inanici F, Brighton LN, Samejima S, Hofstetter CP, Moritz CT. Transcutaneous Spinal Cord Stimulation Restores Hand and Arm Function After Spinal Cord Injury. IEEE Trans Neural Syst Rehabil Eng. 2021;29:310-319. doi: 10.1109/TNSRE.2021.3049133. Epub 2021 Mar 2. PMID: 33400652.
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@@singamd yes but how long does it take? Every person that has did the epidural stimulator are shown still bedridden or wheelchair ridden!🤔🤔
At this time, spinal cord stimulation is FDA approved for pain relief. Using spinal cord stimulation for motor function restoration after paralysis is in the experimental phases and there is not enough data to provide outcome information. I would not recommend doing spinal cord stimulation with the expectation that it will reverse paralysis due to spinal cord injury.
However, there is hope with research studies and I would recommend looking into those for possible enrollment if the goal is standing and walking again. A Swiss study placed the spinal cord stimulator electrodes directly on the spinal cord in men with thoracic spinal cord injuries - the article interviews a paralyzed man who is now "able to stand, walk, swim, and cycle again." www.statnews.com/2022/02/07/walking-again-after-paralysis-early-study-suggests-stimulation-could-jolt-spinal-cord-back-to-life/
@@singamd so would Switzerland be a better choice then Thailand?
Not necessarily. It is more about the quality of research, technology, physicians, safety, etc.
Having has a spine stim done...for me it was a fail...more like turning on the radio to not hear the car engine....when you do the trial, the battery is outside your body n tiny incision for the leads... but when it s implanted, a pocket is made for the battery and the leads are another incision...this was done close to my 30 year incision from L4/L5 fusion...the incision for the leads merged with the old scar and my situation is now worse than ever...went to lots of doctors afterward it was all removed to no avail to repair the damage done...I do not recommend this pricey "solution".
They say batteries last 10 yrs but they don’t last long in general. If you’re adjusting it for high pain use it lasts about 2 years. They don’t tell you that. They just give the best scenario s.
😮😮 oh just can't understand what he is saying