I own a SDR and a Z1 So whoever wins, its ok with me, nice ride guys !! At 71 these rides and speed do not fail to get me fired up, and that horn blows me away !!
Holy hell........to even see a naked /fun bike run with these other bikes is impressive. Obviously the dude is a beast and can ride this track very well. But this dang KTM is drafting those bikes! That is impressive , and totally street legal!
why are there so many negative comments here? The Kawa guy should have let you pass, seeing as you carried way more speed than him in every corner but only got held up by his choice of lines. Defending your position a few times is cool, but when you consistently corner slower than someone behind you, you give some way for them to pass. It's good sportsmanship and it ensures that no one crashes or make mistakes. People in the comments have no idea what they are talking about.
The SDR is a sporty cruiser / touring bike. I have one. Great peppy bike for a day out on the country roads. Not a full faring track bike with track gearing. I think it did pretty good.
Interesting technique with honking the horn... What is the expectation then? That the other rider checks 5 times per lap if there is somebody behind him and then just lets that person pass? Drive through the pits shortly and straight onto the track again otherwise, then you will not see him anymore that session. Don't go honking the horn the whole time, it's silly and I'm pretty sure he can't here you anyways. If he can then it would be dangerous because he would have no idea why somebody is honking his horn...
Lots off bullshit opinions on here. Either way the KTM is doing very well considering what it is and I'm sure if both riders met in the pits afterwards they would have shook hands and said how mush fun it was out there.
Na.. its the rider talents,not the bike for it was held like that.. Well the same type of bike were tested by Jeremy Mcwilliam in Ascari's track says otherwise.. He did "Duke" all of the supersports bike in a happy fun manners.. it was nicknamed the beast for a reason.. Taming it..
that zx 10 knew you were behind him but didn't want to give way .. I hate riders like this at a track day .especiallly when they're on inline 4 superbikes and just depend purely on the machines top end .. annoying!
Its like the guy who drives 65mph in the left/passing lane and won't move or let you pass but I guess in a race if you consider blocking a faster rider from passing then what can you really do? I would've got pissed and slipped into the corner right up under him and if he slips, oh well, should've gave way.
Incrível, uma naked dando canceira em uma speed de pista hahaha imagine se fosse contra uma z1000, ia dar nem graça rsrs show... 1290R sonho de consumo
It's tire choice very often. For example, my KTM Adventure 1190R came with Continental road tires, started to wobble heavily from +160 km/h. Complained at the dealer, dealer checked all ( steering head, diff suspension setups, tire pressures... ) Not solved. Escalated to KTM Belgium, advice followed, = problem was solved by switching to Dunlop trailsmart road tires. Even my 50/50 tires from Mitas allow me to ride +/-210 km/h without wobble...
Really? One is a naked bike the other is a full faired sports bike. You're watching a bike video and don't know the difference between those two and a v twin vs an inline 4. C'mon dude
MrKdr500 No, the 1290 Super Duke R doesn't have different TC levels. You can only turn it off. Only the new 2017 Super Duke will have different TC levels.
@Dario Schär It Does have different levels, supermoto,rain,street,ABS ON,ABS OFF & with the race dongle you can get a Track mode reflashed to ECU. i fucking own a superduke & mine has it.
Maybe, but the guy on the ZX was picking better lines all day, he was slower in the corner & came out better over & over, KTM rider is not a track rider, you can see poor line choices over in over, coming in hotter & out slower because he’s on the wrong line. I think you’re right about equally matched riders whenever there is a naked vs SS, but these guys aren’t getting those bikes to the limits; neither could I
What's with this blowing your horn? The Kawi wasn't even touching his knee..... He was out for a Sunday ride..... You should of carried much more cornering speed then him
If the Kawi rider wasnt pushing it then more reason to let the behind rider pass dont you think? He was carrying more corner speed than the Kawi, he had to slow down most of the time for the slower dude infront
Agreed, why blow the horn. KTM is coming in harder to every corner but ZX rider is picking much better lines. You can see the ZX is gong slower through several turns but winning out of the corner with consistent line choices
@@damytzeus OK this was 2-3 years ago but I think I was saying the results would be the same with a good rider or a bad rider. The best results would be to switch riders and ride again.
Hmm I don't know, a 600cc would have been passed with ease on accelleration. The green machine here is quite eager to get to 260, takes much longer on a 600.
1:36 the horn was awesome LOL I'm going to do that next track day.
I own a SDR and a Z1 So whoever wins, its ok with me, nice ride guys !! At 71 these rides and speed do not fail to get me fired up, and that horn blows me away !!
Some people doesn´t know how madness is a naked at more than 260 km/h...
Agreeing! I do 250 (gps) on the track with my gsxs1000 and yeahhhh it's really a man's bike!
But you can now your head down to the tank
Dude, that Kawa couldn't even stay away from you. Good VTwin rider. 😆💪
The horn thing was just hilarious! you made my day right there you good Sr.
Holy hell........to even see a naked /fun bike run with these other bikes is impressive. Obviously the dude is a beast and can ride this track very well. But this dang KTM is drafting those bikes! That is impressive , and totally street legal!
why are there so many negative comments here? The Kawa guy should have let you pass, seeing as you carried way more speed than him in every corner but only got held up by his choice of lines. Defending your position a few times is cool, but when you consistently corner slower than someone behind you, you give some way for them to pass. It's good sportsmanship and it ensures that no one crashes or make mistakes. People in the comments have no idea what they are talking about.
Daniel Kemnitz you're right man
You OBVIOUSLY dont know how racing works! Do you?
@@hardtarget2359 Yes he knows, this is not racing, this is a track day
Aerodynamics alone cost the superduke 30mph, the superduke wins hands down.
It's all about turning heads not riding at 200mph down Southend prom.
The SDR is a sporty cruiser / touring bike. I have one. Great peppy bike for a day out on the country roads. Not a full faring track bike with track gearing. I think it did pretty good.
It's a hyper naked, not a cruiser / tourer. It's basically a 180 hp super moto, of course it's quick around a track.
@@kwak1k very windy over 100. But sure gets there quickly.
Interesting technique with honking the horn... What is the expectation then? That the other rider checks 5 times per lap if there is somebody behind him and then just lets that person pass? Drive through the pits shortly and straight onto the track again otherwise, then you will not see him anymore that session. Don't go honking the horn the whole time, it's silly and I'm pretty sure he can't here you anyways. If he can then it would be dangerous because he would have no idea why somebody is honking his horn...
I agree never seen anything like this before...it's ridiculous, if you are faster you'll find a way to pass. Unbelievable.
la puissance de cette machine !
Dukes have no front end wiggle at any speed. I own a 2017 sdr.
The duke rider went wide and dropped revs or froze when he could have easily passed.
what a race - totally LOVE it!!
also sdr has no fairing so big disadvantage.
kawi rider sucked but sdr had many opportunities to pass
Awesome!! Thanks for the ride along!
great riders, on a curvy track the Duke would say bye bye to the Kawa despite is a naked Vs a super sport. Torque matters
perfect ride.....both rider are great
nice driving and video mate. proves that electronics activated do not slow you down on track.
Lots off bullshit opinions on here. Either way the KTM is doing very well considering what it is and I'm sure if both riders met in the pits afterwards they would have shook hands and said how mush fun it was out there.
amen
Inline 4 1000cc sportsbike vs V Twin naked sports
Na.. its the rider talents,not the bike for it was held like that.. Well the same type of bike were tested by Jeremy Mcwilliam in Ascari's track says otherwise.. He did "Duke" all of the supersports bike in a happy fun manners.. it was nicknamed the beast for a reason.. Taming it..
belle attaque en ktm
that zx 10 knew you were behind him but didn't want to give way .. I hate riders like this at a track day .especiallly when they're on inline 4 superbikes and just depend purely on the machines top end .. annoying!
If you are faster just overtake... if you can't overtake... then you're slower!
@@fabioj.w.6185 It's not a race, just a track day. Don't be an arse on track then.
@@steveman1982 Then why does the title of the video say ZX10R vs 1290 SD? Sounds like a fuckin race to me. I didnt see ANY other bikes on the track!
At 6.30 they r both shown how its done!
In fairness to both, it is easier to follow than to lead. Neither bike at max potential.
Faltó la giroscópica. Me dolió el cuello tanto ladear la cabeza😂😂😂😂😣😵. Circuito Bugatti
It seems 265 KTM at the straight, and I reckon 270 kmh the kawa. It is good comparing with 500cc gp 1990 which got 278 kmh
1"54" your BEST lap? Quité good!!
Its like the guy who drives 65mph in the left/passing lane and won't move or let you pass but I guess in a race if you consider blocking a faster rider from passing then what can you really do? I would've got pissed and slipped into the corner right up under him and if he slips, oh well, should've gave way.
no KTM 1190 RC anymore, the 1290 engine in the RC...that would be it...high speed on a >Duke R with no wind disguise is crazy.....
Superduke 1290 uma Naked chegado perto de uma carenada insano!!
Sorry i love it having fun on the track
incredibile ktm
Waouh awesome, what a beautiful race, what kind of tyres did you have ?
Michelin power cup evo pour la ktm
Thanks you.
Very nice!!!
the ktm is fast but no like the kawa.. maybe the weight..?? good rider..
in circuit is more important the hp than the torque.. sure
Marko Paquetty I think you’ll find that knowledge of the circuit is the most important thing ... no matter what bikes you’re on..:-))
What tires do you have?
totally agree with the comments.. ktm rider, your lines were crap.
Bicylindre Power!!
Incrível, uma naked dando canceira em uma speed de pista hahaha imagine se fosse contra uma z1000, ia dar nem graça rsrs show... 1290R sonho de consumo
👍propre
A 1290 de curva estava bem mais veloz.
The KTM is apparently heavier because it is losing its cornering line if not sacrificing its torque out of corners
Naked vs Full fairing!!
Nice!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What is second bike in the end race?
@@flo.cantalou2890 thanks!
How did you mount the camera? On the fuel cap?
oui sur le bouchon du reservoir
Kawasaki was faster coming out of the turn.
But WAY slower going into and around the corner.
Donde esa Super Duke 1290 tenga los 2 cilindros , no la vuelve a ver ni en las curvas.
The KTM 1290R was On Fire🔥 Bad sportsmanship from the zx10... He should've let the KTM pass.
so all ktm's wobble?
SOmething to do with the strong torque.
My gsxs 1000 wobble too between about 180 to 220km/h then after stabilise somehow
It's tire choice very often. For example, my KTM Adventure 1190R came with Continental road tires, started to wobble heavily from +160 km/h. Complained at the dealer, dealer checked all ( steering head, diff suspension setups, tire pressures... ) Not solved. Escalated to KTM Belgium, advice followed, = problem was solved by switching to Dunlop trailsmart road tires. Even my 50/50 tires from Mitas allow me to ride +/-210 km/h without wobble...
Which bike is Duke
Arnab Dazs The one on which the camera is mounted.. :)
Really? One is a naked bike the other is a full faired sports bike. You're watching a bike video and don't know the difference between those two and a v twin vs an inline 4. C'mon dude
Traction control on?
Yep, it's on :)
It has different levels of TC and track mode lets it slip a little. most of todays motogp riders would be fucked without electronics.
MrKdr500 No, the 1290 Super Duke R doesn't have different TC levels. You can only turn it off. Only the new 2017 Super Duke will have different TC levels.
its not a proper race, just a track day
@Dario Schär It Does have different levels, supermoto,rain,street,ABS ON,ABS OFF & with the race dongle you can get a Track mode reflashed to ECU. i fucking own a superduke & mine has it.
kawa. ..plays..
grande
this happens when you think SD is a track bike... SD can do pretty well in corners but no chances in straight lines... Sorry but Zx10R wins
Of course Naked vs SS... I want see a RC1290R or something supersport with quickshifter
Maybe, but the guy on the ZX was picking better lines all day, he was slower in the corner & came out better over & over, KTM rider is not a track rider, you can see poor line choices over in over, coming in hotter & out slower because he’s on the wrong line. I think you’re right about equally matched riders whenever there is a naked vs SS, but these guys aren’t getting those bikes to the limits; neither could I
Zx win !
Naked vs sport ?? 🙄
Le couple contre la puissance... le zx et devant grâce à son châssis sport par contre le ktm le lâche pas d'une semelle
What's with this blowing your horn? The Kawi wasn't even touching his knee..... He was out for a Sunday ride..... You should of carried much more cornering speed then him
If the Kawi rider wasnt pushing it then more reason to let the behind rider pass dont you think? He was carrying more corner speed than the Kawi, he had to slow down most of the time for the slower dude infront
Agreed, why blow the horn. KTM is coming in harder to every corner but ZX rider is picking much better lines. You can see the ZX is gong slower through several turns but winning out of the corner with consistent line choices
My question is who is riding ? 1good 1 bad rider would show this same result.
je n'est pas tout compris la question ?
Now if I could only read this ;-)
@@bobbishop9339 he doesn't understand the point of your question? what are you trying to say?
@@damytzeus OK this was 2-3 years ago but I think I was saying the results would be the same with a good rider or a bad rider. The best results would be to switch riders and ride again.
20lb lighter then you could beat him(diet) hahah
Kawa plays.........
Como anda bien la zx10 con 20 caballos dé ménos qué la ktm
De hecho tiene 20 hp más que la KTM, no menos.
Look at these Kawasaki fanboys in the comments..
Whatever this might be the ktm was never able pass the zx10r
I believe it is a 600cc
Hmm I don't know, a 600cc would have been passed with ease on accelleration. The green machine here is quite eager to get to 260, takes much longer on a 600.
No 600 pulls off the corners like that and at those lower revs.
That's a 1290 twin cylinder beast..
so a naked street bike wasnt able to pass a superbike made for the track.. go figure..
wheelup too much
How frustrating
Haha thats all rider not bikes.
z x 10 r ?
mmmm 600 ?
600? Neanche quelle del campionato supersport di 600 vanno in quel modo
Lmfao KTM sucks compared to Kawasaki bruh the only good thing bout it is the ABS brakes the engine is bigger and still couldn't beat the ZX10.
ma che cazzo te soni il clacson..
Seriously you don't know how to accelerate and cornering btw yoir bike is great hope its faster than the zx10r
It's not zx10r, more like 600cc
@@sarunassurvila7857, there's no way that 's 600. a 600 cannot accelerate out of corner like that. not a chance.