I own and wear a Sea Dweller, 126600…..it’s a very legible watch to read with it’s larger dial and it’s cyclops date magnifying feature…. it’s a welcoming update for my failing eye sight compared to my older Sea Dweller 16600 that I now find harder to read with its smaller dial indices and date feature. What I like about the anniversary Sea Dweller compared to the Sub is the stamped case back and beefier bracelet on the larger 43mm case and the “Red” text on the dial writing that sets it’s apart as a nod to it’s vintage heritage. The level of additional manufacturing features with its helium escape mechanism and bracelet extension alone makes it a more labour intensive product to produce that surly commands a higher price over a Sub. This watch is a keeper IMO and by far one of the best if not ….the best… choice in the Rolex collection of professional sport watches.
Congratulations on 100!! I just picked up a vintage 1999 16613 Sub with black dial. I'm loving it!!! To give an anecdotal idea of what people are wearing, I just spent a week at a world class resort and I only saw one Sub, a new date model in steel with black bezel, and one 5-digit Explorer 2 (Polar). I saw a half dozen two-tone DJ's both old and new, a TT Daytona with white dial, a TT GMT GRNR, a white gold Sky Dweller on their rubber "bracelet", lots of Movados and TT Tags. And TT 31mm DJ's were fairly common on women. Seriously, it's like two tone rules at resorts or something, and I would say that DJ's, not Subs, are much more common.
Thanks Joe! Yes the good old DJ is surely the most common Rolex out there, but that's ok, nobody minds that! Two tones are nice summer watches aren't they, and perhaps people feel safer wearing one in a resort?
I live in the UK and own a black sub within my collection and honestly I see them everywhere. I went to a rugby match at the Cardiff Arms Park recently and was in the hospitality block/boxes. Walking around the corridors and when I used the loo a few times I was taken aback by how many black Subs I saw on men’s wrists. Saw the odd Daytona and GMT’s but saw at least 10 black subs that afternoon and it has put me off it a bit, I don’t wear it so much. Same on holiday around the pool, always see lots of black subs, more so than other watches. Usually wear my polar Explorer out now as I never see any of them!
@Anonymouslyme1 I think this perfectly demonstrates an interesting role that the Sub plays. At a special occasion like a wedding, a party, a poolside holiday, a corporate meeting, a high profile sports event, where people want to purvey an image of themselves in their best light, they wear the Submariner if they have one. That doesn't mean they are everywhere in life, on the streets, at the grocery store, weeding the garden, but they appear en masse at special occasions for sure.
Hello, they're both glorious watches, and each has its own nuances. I still think they both work well in a collection and don't overlap eachother. Other than being black dialled Rolex Divers of course! The Sub you just forget you're wearing it, whereas the SD43 is always yelling badass vibes!
@@TheRandomWatchDudethanks for the reply. As a Panerai guy, I don’t think I’d mind the SD size but I definitely appreciate the Sub for wearability. Cheers.
I was fortunate to own both, same models, and I sold the Sub because the SD43 was a better size, fit and weight for my 7 3/4” wrist. You can’t go wrong with either, so make the decision based on which watch feels “right” for you. Solid video, thank you.
I really liked your video! I am a Watchmaker in Boston, Massachusetts in the USA, and I love my Rolex watches. My Sub is an excellent watch and once you own one, you get it! I also own a Sea Dweller and a few other Rolex GMT's. They are all great. but the Sub is almost always my go to watch. Again great video.
Thanks very much for the feedback. I think the Sub shares the same space as the Omega Moonwatch. It's just a simple, elegant, well made, well designed comfortable watch. Rolex knows how to make you feel like your'e wearing something that feels almost made to measure - just for you.
Hi Mark great video you are getting pretty good at editing I'm producing these videos. Just wondering do you think the sub is more comfortable on the wrist it being smaller? For me as I have 215mm wrist size I find my sea dweller 43 really comfortable and my james Cameron a little bit less comfortable but not a problem. I'm still on the wait list for the green sub but have just got my explorer two which is similar dimensions to the sub and find it no less comfortable than the sea dweller 43 .is this because I have very big wrists? what do you think as you have smaller wrists size? Thanks John 👍.
Thanks John! 215mm is a big wrist! My view is that the comfort of a watch is more to do with the balance between the watch case, the bracelet and the clasp, than sheer size per se. The more balanced these things are, the better the weight distribution. No hot spots on the wrist. That's why the Explorer and Submariner are so comfortable I think.
@@TheRandomWatchDude thanks for your reply yes that makes sense I do have some big commercial tool diver watches and it's all designed around function and eligibility . because they have 50mm dials and are extremely thick the bracelet are quite small for the watch and make them uncomfortable to wear long term (but does the job they were designed for) .so in my collection i have what i class as daily wearer's (very comfortable) and night out wearer's (not so comfortable but may be more of a statement watch) thanks John.
Interesting up close comparisons , my wrist appears to be of similar size to yours, so I think the SD would be too large for me, love the Sub ! Enjoy it !
Do you prefer the sub over your gmt? I wear my watch on my right hand too and I’ve had my name down for 2 years on the sprite, but I also love the sub date. Which of the 2 do you favour? I just can’t decide which to get. Thanks
To be perfectly honest, if I had to keep one it would be the Submariner. I love my left hand GMT, and wear it a lot. The crown on the left digs into my hand sometimes, which I'm not used to. The bicolour bezel and cyclops makes it rather a lot more visible on the wrist which might not always be what you would wish for. Both are dimensionally perfect, but the Sub wins due to its truly go anywhere styling.
@@TheRandomWatchDude Thank you for the reply. I did wonder about the crown digging into my wrist, I also like see the crown and watch shape when I look down. I’m starting to think the sub should be my next watch. I have the Explorer II that I love and wear everyday. Thanks and have a good day.
Great video with good information. As an owner of the Starbucks, I was looking at getting the 43 sea Dweller. I would like a black non date sub, but I don’t really want to have to wait like the Starbucks. I think that with the Rolex market changing. It would probably better getting the 43 grey market. There would probably be a fair wait for the 43 through the Ad. And the price for grey market is close to retail for a new one without the wait.
Reporting in after 2 months: still sticking with my 114060 as my only watch, although I’m affraid it wont last that way for long as I’m getting a Speedtimer Pogue tomorrow. Too fun to ignore that one. With that said, your word still stands, I havent been feeling any urge to jump on any of the latest in trend luxury watches. So I guess I have you to thank for that! Btw that 124060 looks awesome on you Capt! I’ve also put my name on the waiting list last month after reading how waiting times are supposed to be on their way down.
Hi Mark thank for making such a great comparison since you have both, hard questions for you: would you change your SD43 for a sub green bezel “Kermit” last model MK2?
Thank you! yes a hard question indeed, but if I wanted a watch to wear frequently and had to choose, I would go Submariner every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays!
I also have both and the Sub is nice but not better looking than the SD43. Is like I said before! The Porsche 911 is the sub and the GT3RS is the SD43.
Can I ask what size your wrist is please?? And how many links you removed from both the sub and SD43?? I think the sub vs SD43 debate is very much in relation to wrist size
Hello, sure my wrist size is 7.2" dia, and flatter rather than round. Wrist shape and size absolutely play a big part in which of these 2 models will be most comfortable.
Spot on. Not everyone has a sub. Out of all the people I work with only two of us have subs. Others have Omegas or an Explorer. Very rarely do I see another sub. I work for a large company and travel a whole lot. I barely see subs.
Congrats Mark on your 100th video! I enjoy your honest, practical approach - it reminds me there are genuine guys in this hobby who spread the love of collecting, not shallow jerks who flex $$. As for new subs in the wild, your numbers may actually be high. I turned down a date sub at my AD, and then waited 9 more months for the 124060. Sales rep told me it's 10:1 sub dates to no-dates. if Rolex annual output is 120,000 subs (steel + PM), then figure 33% steel, so 40,000 steel (starbucks, date, no-date), of those, if 10% are no-date... that's 4,000 no dates per year. Personally, I don't see a ton of submariners where I live (midwest USA), when travelling I see a few, but have yet to see a fellow 124060 watch in the wild... which is exactly what I like! The Rolex submariner is not a common watch; ones you see are usually date versions. Now the apple watch... THAT is common!
Thank you Sambo76 and thank you for the feedback. Your umbers are probably right. I didn't want to over cook mine, but still get the point across, that there aren't as many as people think. And yes compared to all the iPhones out there, nobody makes comments about that!
Congrats on 100 and the new Sub! Beautiful watch! I had a shorter wait for my 124060...my only Rolex. I got lucky after putting in my expression of interest in Dec 2023 (here in Canada) and got the call in late March 2024, coinciding with my 60th birthday. Like you I love the watch and can't stop staring at it. Solid is a word I think of when I hold the Sub.
Congratulations on getting yours, fairly quickly too, and what a great birthday gift. It's nice to know that after a few months you are still lusting over it!!
I'll never be able to afford one, but have always been in love with the Sea Dweller, most especially the 16600. To scratch that itch most effectively, I have opted for the astounding and stunning 39mm Swiss-made Steinhart Ocean One Vintage Red, which pays quite amazing and very high-quality homage to the Rolex Sea Dweller 1665 Double Red ... and costing only ~$500, a mere 1% of that rare Rolex's current price. And all without having to additionally suffer the humiliation of begging, rolling over and playing dead before the AD might place you on a waiting list to perhaps someday have the "privilege" of handing over close to $10,000... for a watch. And there's a reason why you won't find many real Rolexes on the street... even on the wrists of those who actually own them. That's because they also know it takes a mugger only 30 seconds to steal that five-figure watch you spent months or even years on a waiting list to finally pay through the teeth to obtain. No thanks.
@Khemin those is all very sobering. I am fairly fortunate to not live in an area known for its watch crime but that can change in an instant. Yes I think Steinhart make excellent homage watches, very robust, and great value!
Whats your take on wearing your watch on your right hand im lefty too but it definitely doesnt look as good as in the left had ,I kinda struggle with that .
I'm right handed buy have always worn my watch on my right hand. My brain has a short circuit when I try to wear it on the left! I don't worry what others think it looks like, as they aren't me.
Nice video! May I suggest one comparing the new amazing Submariner with your also amazing Omega 2254.50? Very interested to know how your Grail watch compares to your Exit Watch. Those are two of my grail watches, and I bet both do the same but feel so different…
Ooh that's a good idea! Yes I will do that video soon! Very similar watches dimensionally and aesthetically, but the 2254 has a different vibe going on, for sure
I picked up my Starbucks submariner in April 2024 after waiting 10 months and buying two other Rolex watches. I have 500 coworkers and only about 5 have Rolex. Not an easy watch to get. How long will I wait for Pepsi and Daytona. Only time will tell. Lol
My Favorite watches. Congratulations for your beautiful watches . thank you for the interesting video. My experience was , after a few years, I sold my Sea Dweller Red, because I was dinging it around on every door frame or similar. It’s a bit too high for every day use. I was upset and felt like a beginner. My Submariner Date (126610lv) on the other hand has the perfect size for me. It’s the real everyday’s watch. You described it on the point. I also sold my GMT triple black (the discontinued model) I like more than submariner how I found out. Like more the 120 click Basel, then the hour Basel that turns on both direction. The GMT always looks to me like a wrong submariner.
@motokult it's all part of the cruel love of watches that means some don't always make it! You love the Sub even more because of your past experiences.
I own a SD43, and wearing it feels like a lion killing another female's cubs just because it can. And because it is violating its territory. They may look alike. But they really are NOT! BIG Shouts out to ALL of the Rolex-Aficionados! We are TRULY one of the same kind! The Sea-Dweller rocks tho... 😎
I greatly enjoyed this video. I would add that the no date sub is an even rarer watch to see in real life. Indeed, you will see tons of date subs out there, at airports, restaurants. The no date sub is exceptionally rare in the wild.
Congratulations on the 100. Always enjoy your video content. Of all the Rolex models, the Submariner is my favorite. I don't own one yet, but who knows. Cheers
the 116600 sits perfectly on my 7" + wrist. The slight added thickness is just right feels like I am WW2 frogman. My current sub is nice but feels squashed in comparison. I turned down the SD43 (the only Rolex AD watch ever offered to me) perhaps I should have given it a try since I prefer the thickness. 116600 is just right but no way can I even read the date !
124060 owner. I love my Sub. 14:35 - exactly. A lot of so called "watch fans" confront me for my Sub, saying that I "followed the masses" and every other guy has one and how they are everywhere and boring, and unoriginal in design and other ignorant and borrowed "statements" from various so called "watch TH-cam influencers/personalities". Even if they were everywhere and every 2nd guy owned one, I would still like it. I wanted exactly this model since I was a kid - classic and clean Submariner. Simple as. The most ironic thing is that the same people who belittle me for this love to buy Chinese homages/copies and when I confront them for it, they say it does not matter since some of my Sub parts are made in China or partially assembled there.
It all boils down to envy. Those that have a Sub just 'get it' and never care a toss for what other people say. Congratulations to you for knowing your own mind, and wearing your dream watch
Thank you for sharing. I think, it depends on your surrounding, if the Subs you see on other wrists are fake or not. But you are right, there are a lot fakes out there and that is a shame. Best regards Oni
@onifrakimarq7663 thanks Oni. I was going to add that this is also a regional factor too. Some of the wealthy states like Dubai, Singapore, parts of Hong Kong etc you could well see a few Subs. Also weddings and fancy restaurants. But they are exceptions.
Picked up my non date sub on Sunday couldn’t be happier I’ve tried the sea dweller on and the deep sea and as an everyday watch the sub is a far better watch . Just my opinion.
I have the same Rolex Sub timepiece and love it. I do see it out in the wild a lot though. I also have a Batgirl and Yachtmaster 40 blue dial. I haven’t seen anybody else wear those in the wild yet and I live in the States.
I hardly ever see people wearing Rolex, except when I'm in a watch boutique or at the airport for international flights, where people are wearing their favourite watch!
I really want a Sea Dweller, I have a Superocean II 44mm and a Planet Ocean 600m 43.5mm, a Sea Dweller would complete my collection of favourite dive watches, which are my favourite style of watch.
@@TheRandomWatchDude Totally, I love both my Superocean and Planet Ocean, the PO is the favourite watch in my collection but the Superocean is more my daily wearer as it seems a bit more rugged and forgiving for everyday use. It's just the price difference between Omega/Breitling and Rolex is fairly substantial, but I'm on the lookout. Dive style watches are my favourite style I've looked at a few Subs and they are a bit more affordable than a Sea Dweller but I have quite a large wrist 44mm sits nicely on my wrist anything less seems a bit small to me, so a Sea Dweller it will be, when the right one comes along.
Great video mate… I have an SD43 and thinking about getting the submariner or the submariner date with green bezel now. Have trying to find a good sized by side video like this for ages. Thanks keep it up 👍🏻
Great watch. Enjoy it. I understand what you are saying about the number of submariners are out there. But have you taken into account how long the submariners have been around and how many are around in that time. And the fact that submariners haven't changed very much in that time.
Thank you! yes, you make a good point about the compounding affect of it being made over several decades. We could say the same of the Seamaster and Speedmaster. We could also say the same about mobile phones, BMWs, Blue jeans and black shoes! It's a quirk!
You spent over 50k with them in 5 years, trust me you are playing the game. You are a collector and good customer, not everyone can afford that, or want to collect so many varied pieces, that’s why they bring gifts to the sales people. The illusion that the AD’s have created is phenomenal, they are not doing you a favour, it’s just business.
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I guess what I mean is I didn't buy anything I didn't want. very fortunate that I can enjoy these watches yes, I agree. It's disgusting really, to spend so much money on luxury goods.
@@TheRandomWatchDudeI think when you said you were not ‘playing the game’ This is exactly the game they want, they would prefer 10k a year than a box of chocolates. As long as you want all the pieces you get, that’s fine. Just don’t think they are doing you a favour.
Mark , I'm happy that you got the watch you wanted,but would you have still bought the other five watches if you got the sub first,if the answer is yes then you aren't kidding yourself,you wouldn't mind waiting for five years. I would look at the "I like watches" video of his own brand new micro shots of the machine work of the sub . It might surprise you . Hope you are still doing well Andrew, Your a nice bloke mate enjoy the watch
Thanks Andrew, yes I have enjoyed all my watches, and had I got the Sub first, then I'm sure I would have gone straight back on the list for the GMT and the SeaDweller
Just went to pick up an exceptional 1966 5513 gilt "Bart Simpson" Sub with very heavy lacquer patina/dial discoloration in Italy one week ago ; it perfectly complements the "matte dial" 1967 5513 with very light cream patina of the hour markers already in the collection ; a Sea Dweller might be a target, but it would have to be a 1665, only a 1665, likely the "Great White". It will need to have special patina. Only vintage Rolex in my collection, only domed acrylic, only steel.
Side by side the matt dial on the sea dweller looks nowhere near as nice to my uncultured eye. It is also way over engineered and I can imagine that most purchased never actually release any helium from the helium escape valve 😂
I'm not gonna lie, part of the reason I rarely wear my Sub (16610) is because it's the most prolifically identifiable luxury watch in the world. Absolutely not boring, just, well, maybe a look too common. But really, the main reason is that, as much as I love the beauty and iconic industrial design of it, I simply prefer wearing my other watches that, to me, feel and look better on my wrist. Another great video, thanks!
This acquisition process is so so toxic. On the other hand, congrats on your watches, they're beautiful. I couldn't never subject myself to that experience, caught in the desperation to spend so much money on a watch. I was blown away by hearing that people shower the AD with gifts. Greatest turn off.
It can be as painful, or as pain free as you want it to be. Yes the ADs get showered with gifts every day. I've been in there and seen a guy walk in and drop a box of donuts on the counter then walk back out again, and he barely said a word. I asked what happens to the donuts, and she said they just take them home to the family. Personally I would gift it all to the local homeless shelter.
If someone wants a submariner they can get one easily. Yes everyone has a sub. That’s what dorks buy. Less than 1 in 10 are fake? Doubt it. Even then a submariner or clone still a sub look statement holds.
WW2 ace pilots were wearing 34mm chronographs... So you are saying those guys were looking effeminate? 🤔🤔🤔 when the thing in your pants is large enough you dont have to rely on yhe size of your car or your watch 😉
@@vincentschneuwly9783 Yep these dudes who have a hang-up about other guys being effeminate, shows a lack of self esteem in themselves, so they make little barbed comments to make themselves feel better. Seen this pattern a few times here!
@@JakeLian lol that was funny. Seriously it’s like your button up oxford shirt… yeah it’s tailored for you a businessman but when your girl puts it on the morning after it transforms into something incredibly sexy.
Just got mine a few days ago I seriously can’t stop looking at it 😍 I own breitling and Tudor also but there’s just something about this submariner I can’t take it off.
I own and wear a Sea Dweller, 126600…..it’s a very legible watch to read with it’s larger dial and it’s cyclops date magnifying feature…. it’s a welcoming update for my failing eye sight compared to my older Sea Dweller 16600 that I now find harder to read with its smaller dial indices and date feature. What I like about the anniversary Sea Dweller compared to the Sub is the stamped case back and beefier bracelet on the larger 43mm case and the “Red” text on the dial writing that sets it’s apart as a nod to it’s vintage heritage. The level of additional manufacturing features with its helium escape mechanism and bracelet extension alone makes it a more labour intensive product to produce that surly commands a higher price over a Sub. This watch is a keeper IMO and by far one of the best if not ….the best… choice in the Rolex collection of professional sport watches.
Totally agree with all you said there. Those cyclops' definitely help if you have failing eyesight!
That's literally the only Rolex I'd want. I have a 7.75" wrist and I wear a 41mm Omega GMT daily, and I think the 41mm is borderline small for me.
Extremely heavy when worn as a daily and also annoying when temperature change. The Sub is better for a daily
SD43 a man sub 💪🏻
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I have a 116600 Seadweller 4000 and I find it very comfortable not too big
This for me is the peak sea dweller reference.
@@bomberbolton I do find it just the right size for me plus not so many about comparing subs and other Seadwellers
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Congratulations on 100!! I just picked up a vintage 1999 16613 Sub with black dial. I'm loving it!!! To give an anecdotal idea of what people are wearing, I just spent a week at a world class resort and I only saw one Sub, a new date model in steel with black bezel, and one 5-digit Explorer 2 (Polar). I saw a half dozen two-tone DJ's both old and new, a TT Daytona with white dial, a TT GMT GRNR, a white gold Sky Dweller on their rubber "bracelet", lots of Movados and TT Tags. And TT 31mm DJ's were fairly common on women. Seriously, it's like two tone rules at resorts or something, and I would say that DJ's, not Subs, are much more common.
Thanks Joe! Yes the good old DJ is surely the most common Rolex out there, but that's ok, nobody minds that! Two tones are nice summer watches aren't they, and perhaps people feel safer wearing one in a resort?
I live in the UK and own a black sub within my collection and honestly I see them everywhere. I went to a rugby match at the Cardiff Arms Park recently and was in the hospitality block/boxes. Walking around the corridors and when I used the loo a few times I was taken aback by how many black Subs I saw on men’s wrists. Saw the odd Daytona and GMT’s but saw at least 10 black subs that afternoon and it has put me off it a bit, I don’t wear it so much. Same on holiday around the pool, always see lots of black subs, more so than other watches. Usually wear my polar Explorer out now as I never see any of them!
@Anonymouslyme1 I think this perfectly demonstrates an interesting role that the Sub plays. At a special occasion like a wedding, a party, a poolside holiday, a corporate meeting, a high profile sports event, where people want to purvey an image of themselves in their best light, they wear the Submariner if they have one. That doesn't mean they are everywhere in life, on the streets, at the grocery store, weeding the garden, but they appear en masse at special occasions for sure.
Checking in as someone who is on the list for both an SD 43 and sub. How are you enjoying it and any further thoughts?
Hello, they're both glorious watches, and each has its own nuances. I still think they both work well in a collection and don't overlap eachother. Other than being black dialled Rolex Divers of course! The Sub you just forget you're wearing it, whereas the SD43 is always yelling badass vibes!
@@TheRandomWatchDudethanks for the reply. As a Panerai guy, I don’t think I’d mind the SD size but I definitely appreciate the Sub for wearability. Cheers.
I was fortunate to own both, same models, and I sold the Sub because the SD43 was a better size, fit and weight for my 7 3/4” wrist. You can’t go wrong with either, so make the decision based on which watch feels “right” for you. Solid video, thank you.
I really liked your video! I am a Watchmaker in Boston, Massachusetts in the USA, and I love my Rolex watches. My Sub is an excellent watch and once you own one, you get it! I also own a Sea Dweller and a few other Rolex GMT's. They are all great. but the Sub is almost always my go to watch. Again great video.
Thanks very much for the feedback. I think the Sub shares the same space as the Omega Moonwatch. It's just a simple, elegant, well made, well designed comfortable watch. Rolex knows how to make you feel like your'e wearing something that feels almost made to measure - just for you.
Hi Mark great video you are getting pretty good at editing I'm producing these videos. Just wondering do you think the sub is more comfortable on the wrist it being smaller? For me as I have 215mm wrist size I find my sea dweller 43 really comfortable and my james Cameron a little bit less comfortable but not a problem. I'm still on the wait list for the green sub but have just got my explorer two which is similar dimensions to the sub and find it no less comfortable than the sea dweller 43 .is this because I have very big wrists? what do you think as you have smaller wrists size? Thanks John 👍.
Thanks John! 215mm is a big wrist! My view is that the comfort of a watch is more to do with the balance between the watch case, the bracelet and the clasp, than sheer size per se. The more balanced these things are, the better the weight distribution. No hot spots on the wrist. That's why the Explorer and Submariner are so comfortable I think.
@@TheRandomWatchDude thanks for your reply yes that makes sense I do have some big commercial tool diver watches and it's all designed around function and eligibility . because they have 50mm dials and are extremely thick the bracelet are quite small for the watch and make them uncomfortable to wear long term (but does the job they were designed for) .so in my collection i have what i class as daily wearer's (very comfortable) and night out wearer's (not so comfortable but may be more of a statement watch) thanks John.
Interesting up close comparisons , my wrist appears to be of similar size to yours, so I think the SD would be too large for me, love the Sub ! Enjoy it !
Do you prefer the sub over your gmt? I wear my watch on my right hand too and I’ve had my name down for 2 years on the sprite, but I also love the sub date. Which of the 2 do you favour? I just can’t decide which to get. Thanks
To be perfectly honest, if I had to keep one it would be the Submariner. I love my left hand GMT, and wear it a lot. The crown on the left digs into my hand sometimes, which I'm not used to. The bicolour bezel and cyclops makes it rather a lot more visible on the wrist which might not always be what you would wish for. Both are dimensionally perfect, but the Sub wins due to its truly go anywhere styling.
@@TheRandomWatchDude Thank you for the reply. I did wonder about the crown digging into my wrist, I also like see the crown and watch shape when I look down. I’m starting to think the sub should be my next watch. I have the Explorer II that I love and wear everyday. Thanks and have a good day.
Great video with good information. As an owner of the Starbucks, I was looking at getting the 43 sea Dweller. I would like a black non date sub, but I don’t really want to have to wait like the Starbucks. I think that with the Rolex market changing. It would probably better getting the 43 grey market. There would probably be a fair wait for the 43 through the Ad. And the price for grey market is close to retail for a new one without the wait.
Yes agreed, the SD43 is a good option to buy grey now, and not have all the fuss of chatting up the AD
Reporting in after 2 months: still sticking with my 114060 as my only watch, although I’m affraid it wont last that way for long as I’m getting a Speedtimer Pogue tomorrow. Too fun to ignore that one. With that said, your word still stands, I havent been feeling any urge to jump on any of the latest in trend luxury watches. So I guess I have you to thank for that!
Btw that 124060 looks awesome on you Capt! I’ve also put my name on the waiting list last month after reading how waiting times are supposed to be on their way down.
Hi Mark thank for making such a great comparison since you have both, hard questions for you: would you change your SD43 for a sub green bezel “Kermit” last model MK2?
Thank you! yes a hard question indeed, but if I wanted a watch to wear frequently and had to choose, I would go Submariner every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays!
@@TheRandomWatchDude thanks for your reply my friend
I also have both and the Sub is nice but not better looking than the SD43. Is like I said before! The Porsche 911 is the sub and the GT3RS is the SD43.
@frankponce7086 agreed the SD is a very sporty steroidal looking watch, just like the GT3!
Can I ask what size your wrist is please?? And how many links you removed from both the sub and SD43??
I think the sub vs SD43 debate is very much in relation to wrist size
Hello, sure my wrist size is 7.2" dia, and flatter rather than round. Wrist shape and size absolutely play a big part in which of these 2 models will be most comfortable.
I have the 116600. SD4K- perfection 🔥
Spot on. Not everyone has a sub. Out of all the people I work with only two of us have subs. Others have Omegas or an Explorer. Very rarely do I see another sub. I work for a large company and travel a whole lot. I barely see subs.
Seamasters and Speedmasters, yes! And an awful lot of TAG F1s
@@TheRandomWatchDude
Indeed!
Congrats Mark on your 100th video! I enjoy your honest, practical approach - it reminds me there are genuine guys in this hobby who spread the love of collecting, not shallow jerks who flex $$. As for new subs in the wild, your numbers may actually be high. I turned down a date sub at my AD, and then waited 9 more months for the 124060. Sales rep told me it's 10:1 sub dates to no-dates. if Rolex annual output is 120,000 subs (steel + PM), then figure 33% steel, so 40,000 steel (starbucks, date, no-date), of those, if 10% are no-date... that's 4,000 no dates per year. Personally, I don't see a ton of submariners where I live (midwest USA), when travelling I see a few, but have yet to see a fellow 124060 watch in the wild... which is exactly what I like! The Rolex submariner is not a common watch; ones you see are usually date versions. Now the apple watch... THAT is common!
Thank you Sambo76 and thank you for the feedback. Your umbers are probably right. I didn't want to over cook mine, but still get the point across, that there aren't as many as people think. And yes compared to all the iPhones out there, nobody makes comments about that!
Congrats on 100 and the new Sub! Beautiful watch! I had a shorter wait for my 124060...my only Rolex. I got lucky after putting in my expression of interest in Dec 2023 (here in Canada) and got the call in late March 2024, coinciding with my 60th birthday. Like you I love the watch and can't stop staring at it. Solid is a word I think of when I hold the Sub.
Congratulations on getting yours, fairly quickly too, and what a great birthday gift. It's nice to know that after a few months you are still lusting over it!!
The number 1 watch I see in public are smart watches.
90 per cent of those are fake man!
I'll never be able to afford one, but have always been in love with the Sea Dweller, most especially the 16600. To scratch that itch most effectively, I have opted for the astounding and stunning 39mm Swiss-made Steinhart Ocean One Vintage Red, which pays quite amazing and very high-quality homage to the Rolex Sea Dweller 1665 Double Red ... and costing only ~$500, a mere 1% of that rare Rolex's current price. And all without having to additionally suffer the humiliation of begging, rolling over and playing dead before the AD might place you on a waiting list to perhaps someday have the "privilege" of handing over close to $10,000... for a watch.
And there's a reason why you won't find many real Rolexes on the street... even on the wrists of those who actually own them. That's because they also know it takes a mugger only 30 seconds to steal that five-figure watch you spent months or even years on a waiting list to finally pay through the teeth to obtain. No thanks.
@Khemin those is all very sobering. I am fairly fortunate to not live in an area known for its watch crime but that can change in an instant.
Yes I think Steinhart make excellent homage watches, very robust, and great value!
Whats your take on wearing your watch on your right hand im lefty too but it definitely doesnt look as good as in the left had ,I kinda struggle with that .
I'm right handed buy have always worn my watch on my right hand. My brain has a short circuit when I try to wear it on the left! I don't worry what others think it looks like, as they aren't me.
@@TheRandomWatchDudethank you 🙌🏼
as a lefty and a super lefty i am. I dont no why but I need to wear on my left hand. Right doesnt feel right for me.
@@TheRandomWatchDudeme too !
Congratulations mate, well done on the centennial! 🎉
Thanks Nick!
Nice video! May I suggest one comparing the new amazing Submariner with your also amazing Omega 2254.50?
Very interested to know how your Grail watch compares to your Exit Watch.
Those are two of my grail watches, and I bet both do the same but feel so different…
Ooh that's a good idea! Yes I will do that video soon! Very similar watches dimensionally and aesthetically, but the 2254 has a different vibe going on, for sure
I picked up my Starbucks submariner in April 2024 after waiting 10 months and buying two other Rolex watches. I have 500 coworkers and only about 5 have Rolex. Not an easy watch to get. How long will I wait for Pepsi and Daytona. Only time will tell. Lol
My Favorite watches. Congratulations for your beautiful watches . thank you for the interesting video. My experience was , after a few years, I sold my Sea Dweller Red, because I was dinging it around on every door frame or similar. It’s a bit too high for every day use. I was upset and felt like a beginner. My Submariner Date (126610lv) on the other hand has the perfect size for me. It’s the real everyday’s watch. You described it on the point. I also sold my GMT triple black (the discontinued model) I like more than submariner how I found out. Like more the 120 click Basel, then the hour Basel that turns on both direction. The GMT always looks to me like a wrong submariner.
@motokult it's all part of the cruel love of watches that means some don't always make it! You love the Sub even more because of your past experiences.
Absolutely agree with your sentiment. Stunning watch and a joy to wear. Enjoy🥃
Thanks very much!
I own a SD43, and wearing it feels like a lion killing another female's cubs just because it can. And because it is violating its territory. They may look alike. But they really are NOT!
BIG Shouts out to ALL of the Rolex-Aficionados! We are TRULY one of the same kind! The Sea-Dweller rocks tho... 😎
I greatly enjoyed this video. I would add that the no date sub is an even rarer watch to see in real life. Indeed, you will see tons of date subs out there, at airports, restaurants. The no date sub is exceptionally rare in the wild.
Thank you, and yes I agree that the classic Sub is the rarest of them all.
SD 43 easily unless you have small wrists.
Congratulations on the 100. Always enjoy your video content. Of all the Rolex models, the Submariner is my favorite. I don't own one yet, but who knows. Cheers
Thank you! The Sub is even more ubiquitous than the Daytona!
Love your videos. I’m on the list. You give me hope😊
Thank you! Theoretically the watch market will continue to be in a lull for another 1 or 2 years, so just keep hustling!
the 116600 sits perfectly on my 7" + wrist. The slight added thickness is just right feels like I am WW2 frogman. My current sub is nice but feels squashed in comparison. I turned down the SD43 (the only Rolex AD watch ever offered to me) perhaps I should have given it a try since I prefer the thickness. 116600 is just right but no way can I even read the date !
The date does look small on that beautiful model. I think I will be more grateful for the cyclops dates, as I get older!
124060 owner. I love my Sub.
14:35 - exactly. A lot of so called "watch fans" confront me for my Sub, saying that I "followed the masses" and every other guy has one and how they are everywhere and boring, and unoriginal in design and other ignorant and borrowed "statements" from various so called "watch TH-cam influencers/personalities". Even if they were everywhere and every 2nd guy owned one, I would still like it. I wanted exactly this model since I was a kid - classic and clean Submariner. Simple as.
The most ironic thing is that the same people who belittle me for this love to buy Chinese homages/copies and when I confront them for it, they say it does not matter since some of my Sub parts are made in China or partially assembled there.
It all boils down to envy. Those that have a Sub just 'get it' and never care a toss for what other people say. Congratulations to you for knowing your own mind, and wearing your dream watch
Congratulations Mark! I enjoyed watching this video in a jacuzzi wearing my Seiko Turtle. Cheers!
Thanks very much! It sounds like you are living the good life!
Thank you for sharing. I think, it depends on your surrounding, if the Subs you see on other wrists are fake or not. But you are right, there are a lot fakes out there and that is a shame. Best regards Oni
@onifrakimarq7663 thanks Oni. I was going to add that this is also a regional factor too. Some of the wealthy states like Dubai, Singapore, parts of Hong Kong etc you could well see a few Subs. Also weddings and fancy restaurants. But they are exceptions.
My 126610 is lovely, and runs 4 seconds slow per month. Astonishing.
wow that is brilliant!
Only 5 ADs in NZ?? That's too few
4 of them are the same company, so technically there are only 2!
Good job _
Is it possible making a review about breitling avenger 2 sea wolf
I don't have one to review, but I would love to see one
Well done for the video, two superb pieces, and keep up the good work.
@@jeffdjordjevic9099 many thanks!
When comparing the Submariner to the Sea Dweller, you didn't mention which watch is your favorite in the video?
@@starsnstripesus1 I think I highlighted the differences and where each was better than the other.
Funny enough. You hit the nail on the head. 1 out of 5 Subs are no dates. I own the 116610LN date model but you chose wisely with the no date.
Picked up my non date sub on Sunday couldn’t be happier I’ve tried the sea dweller on and the deep sea and as an everyday watch the sub is a far better watch . Just my opinion.
@@scottfisher661 I agree the Sub is a better everyday wear. The SD43 is a fun sports watch, just not quite subtle enough to be an all-rounder
Great vid- you should share why you felt emotional having acquired this piece.
Thanks Mark, yes I will probably talk a bit more about the emotional attachments we form with watches in another video.
I have the same Rolex Sub timepiece and love it. I do see it out in the wild a lot though. I also have a Batgirl and Yachtmaster 40 blue dial. I haven’t seen anybody else wear those in the wild yet and I live in the States.
I hardly ever see people wearing Rolex, except when I'm in a watch boutique or at the airport for international flights, where people are wearing their favourite watch!
I really want a Sea Dweller, I have a Superocean II 44mm and a Planet Ocean 600m 43.5mm, a Sea Dweller would complete my collection of favourite dive watches, which are my favourite style of watch.
Super Ocean and Planet Ocean are both top notch watches too. SD would complete the threesome very nicely!
@@TheRandomWatchDude Totally, I love both my Superocean and Planet Ocean, the PO is the favourite watch in my collection but the Superocean is more my daily wearer as it seems a bit more rugged and forgiving for everyday use. It's just the price difference between Omega/Breitling and Rolex is fairly substantial, but I'm on the lookout. Dive style watches are my favourite style I've looked at a few Subs and they are a bit more affordable than a Sea Dweller but I have quite a large wrist 44mm sits nicely on my wrist anything less seems a bit small to me, so a Sea Dweller it will be, when the right one comes along.
Great video mate… I have an SD43 and thinking about getting the submariner or the submariner date with green bezel now. Have trying to find a good sized by side video like this for ages. Thanks keep it up 👍🏻
Thanks very much for the feedback and good luck with your quest!
Great watch. Enjoy it.
I understand what you are saying about the number of submariners are out there. But have you taken into account how long the submariners have been around and how many are around in that time. And the fact that submariners haven't changed very much in that time.
Thank you! yes, you make a good point about the compounding affect of it being made over several decades. We could say the same of the Seamaster and Speedmaster. We could also say the same about mobile phones, BMWs, Blue jeans and black shoes! It's a quirk!
I prefer my DD43 over my sub41 no date.
You spent over 50k with them in 5 years, trust me you are playing the game.
You are a collector and good customer, not everyone can afford that, or want to collect so many varied pieces, that’s why they bring gifts to the sales people.
The illusion that the AD’s have created is phenomenal, they are not doing you a favour, it’s just business.
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I guess what I mean is I didn't buy anything I didn't want. very fortunate that I can enjoy these watches yes, I agree. It's disgusting really, to spend so much money on luxury goods.
@@TheRandomWatchDudeI think when you said you were not ‘playing the game’
This is exactly the game they want, they would prefer 10k a year than a box of chocolates.
As long as you want all the pieces you get, that’s fine. Just don’t think they are doing you a favour.
@bomberbolton I definitely don't think they are doing me a favor, nor did I imply that. I just didn't need to buy jewellery, or take them chocolates 😕
@@TheRandomWatchDudejust spend $50k 😂 what a relief
@@bomberbolton Yes it's a real first world problem to have isn't it! Disgusting hobby!
Good episode!
the best Rolex ever❤i love it
Mark , I'm happy that you got the watch you wanted,but would you have still bought the other five watches if you got the sub first,if the answer is yes then you aren't kidding yourself,you wouldn't mind waiting for five years.
I would look at the "I like watches" video of his own brand new micro shots of the machine work of the sub .
It might surprise you .
Hope you are still doing well Andrew,
Your a nice bloke mate enjoy the watch
Thanks Andrew, yes I have enjoyed all my watches, and had I got the Sub first, then I'm sure I would have gone straight back on the list for the GMT and the SeaDweller
Another great one
Many happy years of enjoyment and good health to you good sir 🎉
I’m very close to subbing to this channel.
Just went to pick up an exceptional 1966 5513 gilt "Bart Simpson" Sub with very heavy lacquer patina/dial discoloration in Italy one week ago ; it perfectly complements the "matte dial" 1967 5513 with very light cream patina of the hour markers already in the collection ; a Sea Dweller might be a target, but it would have to be a 1665, only a 1665, likely the "Great White". It will need to have special patina. Only vintage Rolex in my collection, only domed acrylic, only steel.
You still had to play their game !
You Mug
@WAYNESWAYS-ib3cm yes such a mug to not pay over retail for a watch that I really wanted. Blimey!
Side by side the matt dial on the sea dweller looks nowhere near
as nice to my uncultured eye. It is also way over engineered and I can imagine that most purchased never actually release any helium from the helium escape valve 😂
I'm not gonna lie, part of the reason I rarely wear my Sub (16610) is because it's the most prolifically identifiable luxury watch in the world. Absolutely not boring, just, well, maybe a look too common. But really, the main reason is that, as much as I love the beauty and iconic industrial design of it, I simply prefer wearing my other watches that, to me, feel and look better on my wrist. Another great video, thanks!
@@1000lightyrs it's good to be true to yourself and your genuine taste. Enjoy your watches, and just do you!
Sounds like you want the seadweller
Yes I do have a Sub!
This acquisition process is so so toxic.
On the other hand, congrats on your watches, they're beautiful. I couldn't never subject myself to that experience, caught in the desperation to spend so much money on a watch. I was blown away by hearing that people shower the AD with gifts. Greatest turn off.
It can be as painful, or as pain free as you want it to be. Yes the ADs get showered with gifts every day. I've been in there and seen a guy walk in and drop a box of donuts on the counter then walk back out again, and he barely said a word. I asked what happens to the donuts, and she said they just take them home to the family. Personally I would gift it all to the local homeless shelter.
@@TheRandomWatchDude thanks for your reply! I enjoy watching your videos. I particularly liked your neo-vintage Seamaster. Keep them up!
The new Sub is the best watch in the world, hands down. It has perfect proportions and the Glidelock? Forget about it.
No one says everyone’s got a submariner…🙄
Oh, but they do on social media. Usually the people who swear by Grand Seiko and Omega!
If someone wants a submariner they can get one easily. Yes everyone has a sub. That’s what dorks buy. Less than 1 in 10 are fake? Doubt it. Even then a submariner or clone still a sub look statement holds.
@ripperx444 if you buy a Sub because you just want to look cool, then yes you are a dork. Might as well buy a fake if it's just about looks.
SD43 is a better size for men. The Sub looks really good on women and effeminate guys.
No other looks ugly no matter who you are. That’s why they’re readily available everywhere like candy.
WW2 ace pilots were wearing 34mm chronographs... So you are saying those guys were looking effeminate? 🤔🤔🤔 when the thing in your pants is large enough you dont have to rely on yhe size of your car or your watch 😉
@@vincentschneuwly9783 Yep these dudes who have a hang-up about other guys being effeminate, shows a lack of self esteem in themselves, so they make little barbed comments to make themselves feel better. Seen this pattern a few times here!
You literally have two of the same watch, with different dimensions….
One has a date wheel, and a cyclops and feels like a land mine on your wrist, the other.... well it doesn't matter, as my wife wears the Sea-Dweller!
Not impressed at all by the sub. Actually my wife tried on the sub and it looked incredible. I think the sub is a woman’s watch.
Haha nice one! 😀
Not all of us have a big hairy and burley lumberjack woman with 8 inch wrists for a wife, but you do you fam.
@@JakeLian lol that was funny. Seriously it’s like your button up oxford shirt… yeah it’s tailored for you a businessman but when your girl puts it on the morning after it transforms into something incredibly sexy.
Just got mine a few days ago I seriously can’t stop looking at it 😍 I own breitling and Tudor also but there’s just something about this submariner I can’t take it off.
Yeh same here! It's ruined my collection!