Cessationism 5 (Gifts of Healings) | Daniel Kolenda: Off The Record
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- In Part Five of "The Heresy of Cessationism”, Daniel Kolenda looks at the gifts of miracles and specifically healing. Daniel shows how much of what cessationists claim to show that the gift of healing has ceased is based on extra-bliblical assumptions. He then offers a more Biblical perspective on what healing was like in the early church.
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To view the other parts of this series about "The Heresy of Cessationism" visit:
Cessationism 1 (The Scriptures)
• Cessationism 2 (A Casc...
Cessationism 2 (A Cascade of Lies)
• Cessationism 2 (A Casc...
Cessationism 3 (Has Prophecy Ceased?)
• Cessationism 3 (Has Pr...
Cessationism 4 (Have Tongues Ceased?)
• Cessationism 4 (Have T...
Cessationism 5 (Gifts of Healings)
• Cessationism 5 (Gifts ...
Cessationism 6 (Evidence of Modern Miracles)
• Cessationism 6 (Eviden...
The Heresy of Cessationism 7 (Miracle Workers)
• Cessationism 7 (Miracl...
Cessationism 8 (More Calvinist Than Calvin)
• Cessationism 8 (More C...
Cessationism 9 (The Pagan Origins)
• Cessationism 9 (The Pa...
Cessationism 10 (The Godfather of Cessationism)
• Cessationism 10 (The G...
Cessationism 11 (Miracles in the Middle Ages)
• Cessationism 11 (Mirac...
Cessationism 12 (Awakening & Revival)
• Cessationism 12 (Awake...
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I suffered for 5 years of diverticulitis infections,every year i would end up in hospital for 5 years,and demonic attacks along with it,and heart problems,attacks in my sleep,would wake up gasping for air,with demon faces as i woke up,even full on demons manifesting to me,got bunch of prayers.. would see others healed of things, but not me,i questioned why, God began to speak to me that he was doing a bigger healing in me, healing me from fear, worry,doubt, teaching me long-suffering..exct..he was healing my emotions,by allowing sickness in my body..one day holy spirit highlighted this scripture to me.john:1:2,he desired for me to be in good health and prosper as my soul prospers..also the story of the 10 leapers were healed physically,but one came back to Jesus and was made whole..inner healing..of our heart and minds.
Break bread daily like the early believers and avail of the power in Jesus body and blood daily. I’ve 3 videos on breaking bread
Read healing scriptures and fast for healing amen may god bless you
@blobmonster9494 guess you really didn't pay attention..even the scriptures God highlighted to me,in actually better now,inside and out, physically and spiritually.. God's word doesn't lie .his word over people's opinion,wins Everytime..people really don't know God's ways..if we share in his sufferings we will share in his Glory..from:8:17-18
@blobmonster94942nd Corinthians 12:6-9.
2 Corinthians 12:7 even though I have received such wonderful revelations from God. So to keep me from becoming proud, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud.
2 Corinthians 12:8 Three different times I begged the Lord to take it away.
2 Corinthians 12:9 Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me.
2 Corinthians 12:10 That’s why I take pleasure in my weaknesses, and in the insults, hardships, persecutions, and troubles that I suffer for Christ. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
Not sure if you were in Zambia recently but I think my mum heard that you were and she brought my twins to your conference when you went about preaching in the communities. My twins enjoyed themselves and she said you prayed for them. I am in America, I am asking for prayers that my kids join me sooner than later so we can do all that God has planned for us in this land. I miss them so much. They turned 5 yesterday. This is my earnest prayer and it will be a miracle for me to have my sons with me.
The testimony in this video is from 10 years ago.. 2013..
I was in the crowd that day, serving as a counselor for that crusade.
I was in my first year in the University then.
I lay hands on the sick daily and I operate in the believers authority. I often see the gift of healing manifest.
Me too! Daily!
I want to learn more about healing the sick on the street. I want to add it to preaching the gospel in the street.
@@emmanueldotse8951 I'd love to give you some tips and advice,if you're ok. I don't ask for anything as I know we need more believers out there doing the job. Freely we have received, therefore freely give.
@@emmanueldotse8951 yes it’s great to step out on the street healing the sick . There are many videos of people stepping out healing the sick. Tom Loud has made many videos stepping out on the street. You can do the same healing. Watch the videos over and over again and you will get breakthrough. We see healing daily. Pete Cabrera, Torben Sondergard, Tom Fischer , Art Thomas. Tom Loud is my favorite and he has many great teaching as well on his channel
@@possessorofchrist7153 Tom Loud is my favorite teacher cum healer
Exactly...we are vessels that God will use...But I have to have Faith that God's word will heal. Our church believes in the gifts But they don't come from man, They come from God. God is the Head not us...Amen! Thank you Daniel for this video.
Thank you. In the last couple of years I have seen a lot of cessationists jumping onto TH-cam to attack people who believe the promises in the gospels. You have made it clear that their argument does NOT come from the scripture.
41:33 I am a mess of tears right hear, God is so good. 😭
Brilliant illustration Pr. Daniel, especially 9 min. in with A I view of Miracles! Thank you, once again!
Thank you. My pleasure!
I’m a new subscriber to your channel Daniel, and your arguments are solid! So well thought out. I’ve experienced two miraculous healings in my own body and I have faith I will heal others. If only cessationists had such faith!
Better, this testimony of Muhammad who was deaf and had his ears opened to praise Jesus has me in tears. 😭 God is GOOD!
THANK YOU JESUS! 🙌🙏❤️
*brother
PRAISE THE LORD!!!
I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!
I do too 😏
Praise the Lord!! I love these testimonies, Jesus Heals today! He Saves an Delivers
Brilliant Daniel! Thank you for this.
This testimony always brings tears to my eyes
I love the Sam Storm’s quote. That’s the heart of the matter
Thank you so v much Kolenda,again you have droped an amazing episode
Thank You Pastor For Another Amazing Episode...Praise to The Jehovah Rapha #jesusistheseason #jesusisthereason
When my son was just a brand new baby, I was suffering from a very stiff neck. To the point where I could barely even move my upper torso. I even had to go to the emergency room at a given day because I just couldn't take the pain. They prescribed medication and advised me to sit under a heated lamp and/or apply a heating pad. I just didn't know what to do. I couldn't even carry my baby. But that night the pain was excruciating. I kept thinking, how am I going to take care of my baby? That evening my husband was trying to help me as much as he could. The baby fell asleep and then my husband had to help me get in bed. My husband had to go to work the next morning. While I was laying down all I did was pray in my mind, "please God, please heal me, God. Please help me. I can't take care of my own baby. My husband has to go to work." (Although I knew that he would stay if he needed to but I didn't want him to have to miss work.)
I was in that prayer mode, laying there in the dark for maybe half an hour. My husband had fallen asleep already.
When all of a sudden, I was pushed from behind. My body went into a sitting position in a supernatural way. I was so startled I screamed! But I started screaming hallelujah, hallelujah. I'm healed, I'm healed. Thank you Lord, thank you Jesus! My husband awoke and also screamed. What's the matter? What's happening?Of course, the lights were off so he couldn't see what was going on or that I was even now in a sitting position moving my head vigorously left and right. He thought someone had come into our bedroom. We were living in the city of Chicago. He thought a burglar had gotten into our apartment. I happily reassured him, no, honey, it's okay, God has healed me, God has healed me. I was crying and filled with so much joy and gratitude. I explained to him that I felt that someone pushed me in a sitting position on the bed. It was the Lord's doing. This happened in 1991. Praise the Lord! He is a miracle working God! My neck is still great!
Praise God! Jesus is alive!
My pastor often says that he prays for people to accept Christ, but if someone doesn't in the church service, he simply doesn't give up preaching!
Healing is the same way! Not all who we lay hands on will be healed. That doesn't mean we'll full-stop!
Who thought we would full stop?
@@chicagogal Other luke-warm Christians say to just "give up" if it doesn't work the first time.
I got to be part of a group that prayed for a hospital in Africa.... the whole hospital was released later that week. It was a TB hospital.... easier to have faith for what you cannot see.... we also went to a burn victim hospital where there were loads of children missing large portions of their skin. I don't think anyone was healed... we all went home with a heavy heart. We will be seeing the greater works soon.... right after major persecution starts. Seek first the kingdom of God... Matt 6:33. The kingdom of God is not that of words but that of power... 1 Cor 4:20... The kingdom of God only comes through much persecution... Acts 14:22.
Keep the good work. We are waiting for you to come over in ABA ABIA STATE Nigeria
Oh I'm excited to replay this 🙏🏻
Praise the Lord, God bless you Abundantly
Praying for you Evg. Daniel Kolenda. May God strengthen you with His mighty power. He knows the spiritual warfare you are going through. Let it make you more sharper in His anointing. I don’t know, HolySpirit is encouraging me to pray for you.
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43:54 the moment he confesses Jesus as the Son of God makes me weep :)
THANK YOU JESUS!!!
Many will say, "Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, did we not perform many miracles in your name, and I will say to them, 'away from me, you who practice lawlessness."
Thank you very much, Daniel!
You answered your own question. I don't need to seek a sign, or wonder. I am a Miracle of His mercy and grace.
First church i ever went to had a pastor with this doctrine. I seen Jesus heal multiple people. Started conflicting with the pastor, I probably could have been the preacher in that church. We are supposed to be LIVING the scriptures, because we are born again and filled with the spirit that moved people to write them.
8:35 Wow I’ll never forget that. Thanks
Need prayer for healing of " cellulitis" on antibiotics.
Praying it isnt mrsa, 🙏
Thank you very much, blessings to you Daniel n all the viewers. 🙏
The passage that Daniel quotes from Acts 5 is the only place where the Church seems to have touched the 100% healing rate we see in the Gospels concerning Jesus' ministry. The Gifts of the Spirit are not superpowers.
Many things that I've noticed with Cessationists, Reformed, and Calvinists is that they want it to match up "word for word, to the letter", which is a manifestation of the religious spirit. We are not to take Scripture by the letter, but by the Spirit, which means "by the message/idea" that is being put forth/portrayed in the passage.
But then they ofcourse reject the idea that they have a religious spirit, and some even deny that someone can be manipulated/controlled by a different spirit other than the Holy Spirit when that person is a Christian. They have no idea that their underlying religious beliefs say that they cannot sin due to having Christ. They fail to realize that in order for anyone to sin, they have to fall for temptations, which opens them up to those spirits. So thus they're saying that they never sin or fall for temptations because they have Christ; thus they're saying that they're better than everyone else (remind of you the Pharisees much?).
Wow... there are no cessation scriptures in the bible!
Every cessationist that I know pray that God gives the Dr special knowledge and heal in some magical way. We don't know how but if it's your will father please hear our prayer.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!
If I had to believe I had to gather enough people without any doubts to pray for me to be healed, I would never be healed. Lots of people profess faith, but they have no faith. Healing is a result of obedience to repent. For children, it's a matter of their parents repenting. God manifests healing through those he chooses. If you are spirit filled. I've prayed just in faith God would heal someone, and he healed them. I pray for my own healing and receive it. You simply need to step out and do what Jesus said to do. Ask for the Baptism in the Spirit. Get out of churches that deny the Spirit.
In the AI image of the working of miracles, the Wizard looking guy has 7 fingers on his right hand...very interesting!
Evangelist Kolenda, This was such a Powerful Teaching and So Encouraging to The Body of Christ❤️🔥 With Man it is impossible...But with God...All Things are Possible....✝️♥️🙌🏼🔥
Smith Wigglesworth had an extraordinary healing ministry.
Thanks again for another great video teaching. Remember that Jesus never said pray for the sick but to heal the sick and preach the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
We THANK THE LORD for HIS WORD which is final.
THE LORD said “ Go into all the world and preach THE GOSPEL, They that believe, in my NAME will lay hands on the sick and they will recover “
Why listen to a man somewhere who says healing has ceased. That will mean preaching the gospel has ceased too since they go hand in hand in the commission THE LORD GAVE US. THE LORD did not separate them.
32:50 The sola scriptura would argue that gifts *are* for today if we were going by scripture alone.
Thanks for making it clear that Cessationist understandings are all over the place on this issue and are certainly not aligned with scripture. It amazes me that cessationists don't look at their beliefs and realise that they are premised on unbelief. God doesn't do this, God can't do this, this is not for today. This is the word of someone else, not the word of God where Jesus teaches that Mark 9:23 is the reality. And we have a God with whom Luke 1:37 is said. Or Matthew 7:11 is the teaching. Or regarding the Holy Spirit and his gifts Luke 11:13. How is it that they can say "it's not for today"?
So true!
Yeah both their experience of the gifts and ours line up with scripture. They don’t believe so they don’t see any miracles. We do believe so we see them.
I believe in miracles because I believe in God.
Why would we be preoccupied with preserving the flesh. It is indeed what separates us from our heavenly presence with God. Even so, it sounds like God desires all to be healed, but yes indeed solely that He may be glorified. God sovereignly acts with healing upon those according to His good pleasure. John Newton, the writer of the words to the great hymn Amazing Grace, wrote "I was blind and now I see". How do you define healing? John Newton was never physically blind, yet would admit to his spiritual blindness. A miracle, by nature is extraordinary, unusual and uncommon. The more common miracles become, the less they can be defined as a miracle, since they are now common. Beware of those who would claim a healing in order to bring profit and attention to themself. Likewise in salvation, God sovereignly chooses according to His good pleasure those whom He will save. Even so He desires all to be saved. 1TI 2:1-4
This has been a wonderful series. I don’t think I have heard you misquote a single verse of the Bible.
Romans 11:29
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
I don’t think Paul is talking about physical; natural gifts, which are revocable, but the gifts of mercy and grace to the disobedient.
Talking about spiritual gifts from Heaven which God gives to us under the new covenant.
He's talking about all gifts.
Whether spiritual or physical
You forgot to to mention the res of the verse but in the church " I would rather speak 5 words in a known language than 10K words in an unknown tongue.1 Cor. 14:19
If there is no healing , there is no salvation, what is salvation but a miracle, signs,healing,wonders…. Ask for documentation of salvation, if our GOD does not heal, nor hears us anymore that’s no a GOD we want, whatever GOD DID then HES still able today, He took this illiterate man and thought me to read and write praise GOD, saved my Mothers life last month in thru Jesus name , He’s still a wonder-filled wonderful wonder working GOD, no documentation needed all glory be to our Good Father who loves us more than we can imagine amen
Obviously you don't know this but your view and cessationists are the same on this issue: God is the one doing the healing. I wish you would link something to show who these 'cessationists' are who don't believe God can't or doesn't heal. I haven't met them or seen a video where someone says God can no longer do such miracles. There must be many videos on YT where a prominent Christian clearly states that God no longer does miracles ( I presume that since you say that is their stance). Could you post a link to one of these videos?
Please show me where I’ve said cessationsts don’t believe God can do miracles
What they dont know is that Not all Miracles of Jesus were instant and complete.
Eg. Jesus prayed for the blind man and the healing wasnt complete so Jesus had to pray again. Mark 8:24-25
They dont study the bible into detail.
Blessed is the man who believes and have not seen. I operate in the believers authority and see healings in a daily basis Mark 16:16 -20 We send forth the word and heal the sick . I anoint the sick and the prayer of faith heals the sick. James 5:13 The early believers broke bread daily and availed of the power and healing that is in Jesus body and blood Acts 2:41-46
To many charlatans in the charismatic movement. The prosperity is in one direction. From the sheep to the false shepherd. The shepherds devour the sheep as E,ekiel points out.
😂”Thou shalt not do at all what others do poorly.” Sam Storms
I don’t believe in healing. In times past God worked in the outer man, blessing nations and individuals in hope of drawing the world to themselves. But that was before the Holy Spirit was given full time to believers. Now, God is working through the inner man. Our testimony is not “look, world, how God is blessing my outer man with health and prosperity.” Our testimony is the “peace that passes understanding” as we cope with every travail that plagues this fallen world.
@@garyh2100 where is the biblical basis for your dualism? You don’t think the early church and the apostles had a testimony of “peace that passes understanding?” You’re setting up a false and unbiblical dichotomy friend.
Alot of words w/ no scripture?
Do you interpret tongues? If you don't, do you know someone who does and would they or you be willing to objectively either prove or disprove this gift? How is this possible? Here's how: Simply make a YT video of someone (maybe yourself)speaking in tongues. Then immediately make a second video interpreting the tongues. Then wait a week and make a third video where you play back the tongues video from the prior week and in the same video interpret it. Your interpretation, if legit, will match the interpretation video from the prior week. The Bible tells us to test the spirits. Couldn't get a more objective test and many eyes on one side or the other will be opened. Or closed....
Saying that healing should be permanent is setting a standard not even Jesus held to, for example the man at the pool, Jesus heals him and later tells him to sin no more or else something even worse will happen. We can’t say that healing has to be permanent. Also to say that the healing needs to be permanent concedes that there was a miraculous healing to begin with even if it is temporary.
@blobmonster9494 how so?
@blobmonster9494 "Getting sick doesn't mean you weren't healed" so we are in agreement? how is what I was saying out of context?
@blobmonster9494 Okay but in context to the video, cesationists claim that healings need to be permanent, as in, that sickness can never come back.
"In the New Testament when someone with the New Testament gift of healing used His gifts, the results were complete, immediate, permanent, undeniable, every kind of sickness, every kind of illness." No. Not even Jesus could do that:Mk 6:5 Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. Mk 8:22-25 Then He[Jesus] came to Bethsaida; and they brought a blind man to Him[Jesus], and begged Him[Jesus] to touch him[Blind man]. So He[Jesus] took the blind man by the hand and led him out of the town. And when H[Jesus] had spit on his eyes and put His hands on him[Blind man], He[Jesus] asked him[Blind man] if he saw anything. And he[Blind man] looked up and said, “I see men like trees, walking.” Then He[Jesus] put His hands on his[Blind man] eyes again and made hi[Blind man] look up. And he[Blind man] was restored and saw everyone clearly.
Im i beleive that the gifts but right here is the but. How is it that this is saved for church meetings and its just gifted to a handful of men that use this gift to fleece the sheep and line there pockets. Yugh. And then we move on to christains being delivered from demons and for the same reason as stated above. Im of the school is as we go out to win the lost then its likely you would see theses gifts in operation. So in a mega church inviroment this has been turned into a glory seeking show.
Kolienda slipped up. He said "God forbid" that he is putting the miracle power of today on the same level as the miracles by the Apostles. He is muting God's own power with no scriptural basis; in fact it SHOULD be the opposite. Bro you went THIS far, go for the jugular. Jesus said ANYONE with faith can do the same works and greater. You have just said the Holy Spirit doesn't outdo Himself from previous miracles. Paul used a handkerchief. Have you not heard that John G Lake used a tree? Christians should be healing at an exponentially higher level than the first century because the Holy Spirit does the work. You just said we can't even touch the Apostles. That's apostle worship. come on man. Don't relent. Yes we can do greater things than they did based on John 14:12 and history.
I know we do not chase after miracles. BUT, they should follow us as we are active serving the Lord in our daily walk. Jesus said these signs shall FOLLOW them that believe. They shall speak with new tongues, cast of devils, lay hands on the sick and they will recover, and if we pick up something that is deadly such as false doctrine it will not harm us. The use of gifts in the service have been replaced by programs. Man-made programs. It is amazing to hear what the Lord will give rewards for. The Lord will give rewards to them that believe Him. I am sorry to say many churches have created their own brand of Christianity that has NO power. Jesus shows us in Revelation 3 that the last part of the church age will be lukewarm. I admit to being lukewarm in my Christian walk. It is a sick feeling. It is a daily walk of faith or trust in ALL the word of God. Amen.
The bottom line is: The gifts are not mine, I cannot just use the anointing when it suits me. I am an instrument through whom God wants to reach others He wants to minister to. I need to be available, obedient, and believe. The work is done by God's Spirit as and when He chooses to.
Those who deny the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not submitted to Jesus Christ as their Lord. They deny the His Word and only have a form of Godliness but deny the power and the bible says to have nothing to do with them.
Who is denying any of the gifts?? Some have clearly ceased, like tongues, because they served their purpose (for a time) to build the early church.
Show me ONE scripture that proves any gifts have ceased. @@chicagogal
@@markkuntz571 1 cor. 13:8
T brother kolenda drop the sarcasm you’re not representing cessationism fairly. You don’t like it when they do that to you don’t do that to them
I did not get condecending or arrogance. Daniel has a perspective on a nonessential part of christianity. It has truth in it and so do other people's perspectives like RC Sporul. Agreeing or disagreeing doesnt cancel you from heaven. Not having Jesus as your savior and believing He died on a cross for our sins and was raised from the dead also keep the ten commandments. That is the essential part. The rest is interpretation. Punching a fellow christian in the face is not biblical. What I have seen, is complete nastiness, from the people who do not agree with Daniels pidcast. I think they missed the point of. Christianity.
I’m sorry if you think I’m punching another Christian in the face and being nasty with my comment.Since God saved me I got caught up with the Pentecostal church and were they stand with healing,tongues and believed that I was right and all the other churches were wrong and missing out.I ran to one meeting after another looking for signs,healing,believing Gods will was to heal everyone,etc.I thank God for opening my eyes to see how deceived I was.Jesus said that an evil and adulterous generation look for signs.I was taught that if a baby was born with a disability that Satan harmed the baby in the womb.When God spoke to Moses in regards to his speech God saidWho made man’s mouth?Who made the deaf,the mute ,the blind?God declared that it was He.I feel free and not under bondage since leaving the Pentecostal church and these teachings.I hadn’t realised how bound I had been.Jesus said that if you abide in His word you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.Jesus also said that there would be false signs and wonders ….people using Jesus name to ‘heal and cast out demons’Jesus declares to them’Depart from me I never knew you’.God is Sovereign and He is holy.To say that cessationists don’t know their bibles is ridiculous,to say that they don’t pray for the sick is ridiculous,to imply these things and imply that a cessationist who would pray for someone dying is them doing their good deed of the day or week but that prayer wouldn’t be answered ,that you’d be better with a charismatic pray for them instead is arrogant and condescending.Stating this isn’t being nasty to Daniel.
These videos are great!
As I said before the two most controversial gifts are tongues and healings (in my opinion) they are the two with an (s) at the end meaning there are multiple of each. People put them in a box and it’s part of why they’re misunderstood.
I did go to the hospital and the hospital was getting emptied out so fast. They wanted to charge me with practicing medicine without a license. And I had to leave and was never allowed back. This happened in Africa. I tried in the US It was even worse.
I'm fully charismatic and have been praying to enter into this sort of thing... how would you recommend going about something like that?
As a continuist, I see problems in the Charismatic movement. Firstly, there are the charletons out for money and fame. They would find it more to do this in a Cessationist church because of the lack of sensationalism, not having the potential of the gifts.
Secondly most Charismatic churches abuse the gift of tongues, when they all speak in tongues together. When Paul's admonition was that only two or, at the most, three speak in church. Paul was not hindering speaking in tongues, as he said he speaks in tongues more than anyone. What he meant was don't all speak in tongues IN CHURCH. Because time is better spent in being edified with the understanding mind; a teaching, an exhortation, a prophetic word etc., for the growth of the church in the knowledge of Christ.
Lastly, Charismatics seem to have the erronious view that EVERYONE HAS EVERY GIFT. Or that everyone must have some spiritual gift. This is not true. And nor was it ever taught by the apostles. Paul wrote and exhorted believers to seek spiritual gifts, but emphasised that the greatest gift is love. And there is also the gift of generosity.
Lastly, most churches erroniously give honor and high position to those with the greater gifts. When Paul wrote to say this is not what is to happen in the body of Christ. We are to honor the more modest parts of the body, 1 Cor 12:23-24, 'and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it'.
I wish you would do a video explaining impartations of the Holy Spirit. Violent shaking, uncontrollable laughter, Baptism of fire.Can you scriptually validate all this?
Each time I see this man gets healed it gets me to the core of my being . I cannot stop crying. Jesus is amazing. !❤
Man, I'm crying like a baby over the segment of the man who was deaf and then he was healed. our God is a good good God!
Preach as many sermons on godly character, loving the poor and needy, showing hospitality, conviction of sin, sharing the gospel - as Jesus and the apostle Paul focused on - as you do about the gifts of the Spirit, and you will begin to have some cessationists (of which I am not one) at least willing to acknowledge your 'biblical insight'. It's shameful to see the love of money and status, lack of godly character, the boasting, that is rampant amongst charismatic leaders. Repent, and begin teaching the commands of Jesus. That is the only common ground.
In other words, if they said what you want to hear, and not what GOD told them to say.
Please pray for me to be baptised in the Holy Spirit and for my mom to be healed.
Because Jesus is the healer! And he didn't ever do that either.
Now, if the Spirit leads someone to go to a hospital and start praying for everyone, then watch out.
E.A. Adeboye prayed for a friend in a hospital once and about 17-18 very sick patients all were healed and he didn't even pray for them. Praise The Lord.
Agree to disgree. Miracles etc are still possible. Be kind and loving to all even if they disagree with you. Don’t call them derogatory names - that is not kind. 🙏❤️
This advice should be for the cessationists not this brother.
I pray for all of these individuals like Kolenda to repent. And, he always speaks like this about those who disagree with him. He is actually one of the worst. I see nothing of Jesus in him.
@@comfortandjoy2957 maybe you don't...but there are many who do. It's so wrong to say such things. Check the plank in your own eye first.
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh (Matt 12:34). This was spoken by Jesus. A few verses back, the Pharisees had accused Jesus of casting out devils by Beelzebub (vs 24).
There are many being oppressed by the devil in many ways and people, like the Pharisees, who try to oppose those actually doing something to set people free and yet, what some care about is to be kind with their words. Just quoted a verse by Jesus calling them a generation of vipers. Was he unkind, unloving or derogatory? Please let's put emotions aside and set the captives free. Pastor Kolenda has decided to do this and yet you ask him to repent for his choice of words. Blessings
Faith in God thru Jesus Christ is the way healing and miracles happen. I have experienced healing and miracles and I am just a believer. Laying hands on the sick works. I've seen it work through me. It you can believe, all things are possible to them that believe.
Even Jesus did not heal everyone. When he went into the pool, there was only one that's recorded that was healed; and also it tells us that Jesus obviously did not just heal anytime he chose to because in Luke 5:17 it says that when Jesus was teaching that the power of the Lord was present for healing, which obviouslymeans it was not always present. We also know that Jesus said he doesn't do anything unless he sees the Father first doing it, which means He was not just rubbing around doing whatever He wanted.
This is such a basic truth. Very necessary that you mentioned it. What did Jesus say to those who used the gifts and ministries without hearing from the Holy Spirit? He said, I don't know you, you workers of unrighteousness!
The point in these verses in Matthew 7:21-24 is NOT the misuse of the gifts; although we should all seek to be led by the Holy Spirit and move only as the Father directs. However, just like anything we do for the Lord should be led by the Holy Spirit; but yet any believer could mis-teach or mis-speak out of a zeal for the Lord, or because of spiritual immaturity and Jesus is NOT going to send them away for those reasons. Matthew 7:21-24 is talking about people that do NOT really know Him but are doing works in His name. They are religious people who may know a LOT about Him, but they have no personal relationship with Him; they are not walking in His power and therefore have a form of Godliness but are denying His power to change and transform them, thus they walk in lawlessness and even their good deeds and works are done in the flesh and are like filthy rags! But while they confess Him as Lord, they don't REALLY KNOW HIM!@@theostehle9337
@BryanCurtis69 Amen, And He was sinless and in perfect tune to the Father's voice, but praise God that He is changing us day by day from glory to glory so we can represent Him to the world He loves and died for. If we would die to the world and our self, our desires and our will (truly crucified with Christ) He could truly live in us and hear more clearly. Thank God we grow in grace and knowledge and learn to hear Him better every day! It is my biggest prayer to hear Him clearer and clearer everyday and to see what the Father is doing every moment so I can do ONLY what I see Him do, but until that day comes all I can do is read, study, pray, listen, act, repent and realign! Praise God for His grace and mercy!
Wow! That testimony at the end! Praise God🥹🥹🔥🔥🔥
Wow Wow Wow.. 😭
Thank you for this, what a blessing 🙌
I have many clips of charismatics claiming that they can heal 100% of the time and even do so regardless of whether or not the sick person has faith. You are wrong.
Do share…
JESUS Heals 100% of the time whether or not the sick person has faith! While faith is the means through which healing is received and is therefore important, the reason why Jesus heals is primarily because He loves people. So it's possible for someone to get healed even where their individual faith was not involved because of the Love of God! Also, Faith is needed for healing, but it doesn't have to come from the sick person. It can come from someone else. Jesus can heal a sick person on account of their loved one's faith, in the same way that you can buy coffee on account of someone else's money. Money must be there, but the one drinking coffee doesn't have to be the one with the money. It can be on someone else's bill. Similarly, Faith must be present, but the sick person doesn't have to be the one with faith. Faith can come from someone else on behalf of the one being healed, and they will still be healed.
Thank you so much for this series 🐑👀❤️🔥
Im a DHT w JGLM and after receiving the call for healing, I have heard this exact comment from people who arent there yet "I want to see somebody go in a hospital and heal everyone in there" verbatim . Spirit of unbelief.
I've received the DHT and other materials that Brother Blake offers on JGLM.
I'm not a certified tech, but Blake's materials have enhanced my understanding of spiritual gifts significantly. I can't wait to go through them again with other congregants.
And yes, the spirit of unbelief is rampant in the body of Christ! I have a heart for these people because I was once in their camp, but it seems to have been magnified in the past few years since COV!D.
The thing I think Cessationists need to grasp, here, is that God is not a “cosmic genie.”
The reason why Continuationists/Charismatics don’t go around healing everyone is because we can’t treat God’s work through His servants like some kind of divine Pikachu we can throw in a Pokeball at sickness and say “I choose you.”
Since Israel was formed at Mount Sinai, sickness and disease was always punishment due to disobedience and unbelief but that was under the Law
Under the Law, God literally promised Israel that if they obey him, they will never fall sick (Deuteronomy 7:15, Exodus 15:26)
Under the promised kingdom of heaven on Earth, no one in Israel will be maim or sick too (Isaiah 33:24, Psalms 103:1-5).
Israel broke their covenant of Law that was given at Mount Sinai. They killed or ignored all the prophets that God repeatedly sent to them when they were separated into 2 kingdoms and went into captivity under Babylon, and then under Persia. (Matthew 21:33-46; Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-19).
Thus, at the time of Jesus's first coming to Israel, many people in Israel are sick, demon possessed, precisely because they have forsaken that Law covenant. (Luke 13:11, Acts 3:2)
Jesus thus healed all of them to give them a sign that he was indeed the promised Messiah (John 20:30-31, Luke 7:19-23. Luke 4:27).
Acts 10:38 is an especially beautiful summary by Peter to show that
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
But now, God no longer relates to us under the Law (Romans 6:14, 1 Timothy 1:9).
So when we believers are sick nowadays, we can be rest assured that it is not because we have disobeyed God in anyway.
Conversely, if we find ourselves getting better, it is NOT because we are currently doing something that pleases God.
That is what I believe Paul is teaching us now when he shared with us Romans 8:18-25 and 2 Corinthians 4:16-18, and when he gave Timothy common sense advice regarding his frequent stomach aliments.
I love your humor, and you’re so articulate in your position. Evang. DK 🙌🏾🙌🏾
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I’m from Africa and I used to think healing is easy and frequent abroad. I had a backup thought that they have the Oral Roberts, T. L Osborns, Cfan, Smith Wigglesworth etc.
And also that there are more atheist there therefore GOD will be willing to heal them more to save them but here in Africa many have come to know GOD and are full of unbelief (that was when I thought healing was conditional rather than the Finished works of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST).
Until I heard from Reinhard Bonnke and Daniel that others also thought it was easier and frequent here in Africa than abroad. Then I knew that was the thought of the devil.
I believe and desire healing for the people 😊
How Cessationists differentiate THE GIFT OF HEALING operating BY THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH an individual from God BRINGING ABOUT HEALING BY the SPIRIT is beyond me. In both cases it is God who performs the miracle rather than man. Such an idiosyncratic unfounded hermeneuic violates the PLAIN MEANING of the text. In fact this wizardry of Bible interpretation is NEVER EXPLICITLY stated by Jesus or by any of His Apostles. When James tells us to gather some elders together, anoint and pray for a sick person he said nothing about gathering a group of elders who HAVE the GIFT OF HEALING (AT WILL) though without such a provision there would be NO CERTAINTY that this KIND of prayer would EVER be answered.
It seems to me that the vital quality of this kind of healing is PRAYING IN FAITH.
14 Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the PRAYER OFFERED IN FAITH will restore the one who is sick (Jamed 5:14-15)
This faith is a response to the WORD OF GOD spoken to the inner man.
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Beloved Evg. Daniel,
Tell to that man, not all patients are in the Hospitals.
Many patients are in there own house, Street.
Due to they can't afford for the hospital bill.
as we servant of our
GOD'S 📕🇮🇱❤️🕊️❤️🍞🍇💧🔥
we
prioritize to evangelize, those patients
where not in the hospital 🏥.
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Jesus said He could ONLY do the (miraculous) works He "saw" the Father doing. He did not heal anyone by virtue of some SUPERNATURAL gift He could use whenever and ON whomever he wanted. He had to do it out of a VINE-BRANCH dependence on the Father. It is the same principle with the other spiritual gifts like PROPHESYING. When a person had the "GIFT OF PROPHECY" did this mean he had the power to prophesy ON TAP and could utter a never ending stream of prophecy whenever and however long he chose?
Wow. How could anyone argue with the wonderful testimony at the end!
As a continuist, I see problems in the Charismatic movement. Firstly, there are the charletons out for money and fame. They would find it more to do this in a Cessationist church because of the lack of sensationalism, not having the potential of the gifts.
Secondly most Charismatic churches abuse the gift of tongues, when they all speak in tongues together. When Paul's admonition was that only two or, at the most, three speak in church. Paul was not hindering speaking in tongues, as he said he speaks in tongues more than anyone. What he meant was don't all speak in tongues IN CHURCH. Because time is better spent in being edified with the understanding mind; a teaching, an exhortation, a prophetic word etc., for the growth of the church in the knowledge of Christ.
Lastly, Charismatics seem to have the erronious view that EVERYONE HAS EVERY GIFT. Or that everyone must have some spiritual gift. This is not true. And nor was it ever taught by the apostles. Paul wrote and exhorted believers to seek spiritual gifts, but emphasised that the greatest gift is love. And there is also the gift of generosity.
Lastly, most churches erroniously give honor and high position to those with the greater gifts. When Paul wrote to say this is not what is to happen in the body of Christ. We are to honor the more modest parts of the body, 1 Cor 12:23-24, 'and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it'.
Good Today ! __ " Jesus the Christ of GOD ", a simple trueth easily found in the early Writings of the Jewish Be-Livers of the " Way, Trueth, Life ". __ humbly, neighbour daniel
Amen. Dan Censationist will claim that this is all emotionalism and demonic. The only way these people will come around is if God opens or removes the vail if you will. You have been Acually very humble in your teaching. Jesus reminds me of what He said, that the Love of Many will WAX COLD. I believe that in this reform camp there is alot of INDOCTRINATION. Thanks for your obedience to the holy spirit and ministry
Such a powerful testimony! 39:47
Straw-man - You have no experience. 🤷🏻♂️
Second - You lost all moral authority by rejecting “your definition” of gifts today.
All the seriously ill are in hospital and dead are at morgue. They dont attend healing meetings. I think Kolenda should rethink. Anyway the biggest miracle is when somebody is born again and I am sure that Kolenda agrees.
Awesome video and teaching, there is no doubt miracles are happening daily. We are called to be the vessels for Christ to operate, He can't operate in us if we never allow him to work.
“And these signs will follow those who believe. They will lay hands in the sick and they will recover.”
This is the words of Jesus Christ, and he meant it.
Actually Daniel a testimony given by on the man of God who led me to the saviour where a young lady she led to the lord Jesus at the hospital he worked during a prayer service was suddenly filled and by the power of the Holy Spirit crying being urged to go lay hands on those who were severely stricken (this was a T.B. patients hospital) ,the story goes she went from ward to ward patients literally being shocked into health that at the end the wards were cleared living empty beds, many were saved that day.
I still remember watching this miracle. Oh! Praise Jesus! Praise Jesus!
Paul's thorn in the flesh, whatever it was God said no 3 times.
Thank you for this series
God is sovereign.
Sovereign to His WORD!