You're amazing! This content is the exact niche that can't be found or understood if I try to read it, but when laid out like this makes it comprehensible.
One thing worth noticing is the Worker Skill Change UI can got the bug when: > You accidently click on skill A, despite the skill doesn't glow up, the game think that you chose skill A. > When you choose another skill, e.g. skill B, the game still think that you chose skill A, so skill A will got rolled off instead of skill B. The method I'm using to avoid this bug is always make sure the skill I want glow up in the first time I click it. If it doesn't, close the skill change popup and reopen it. Hope it helps :">
Summer, Thank you very much for your efforts in educating the BDO population like myself. I am grateful for your hard work and amazing explanations for the in-depth mechanics this game has to offer. You are amazing and do excellent work! Keep it up! We love it!
this was extremely well put together, concise and informative. Covered every question i was wondering on the topic, and even provided some insight to things i had not even considered. Please make more videos like this! Valuable content, much appreciated
Just as an addendum, the 3rd, yellow column when looking at the region resources is for Investment Banking. That thing no one should've touched anytime in the last 5 or so years.
Great information as always! I haven't looked too far into the workers yet. I've just been trying to get the best workers on the useful/best nodes atm and get them to artisan. This is very helpful and will put it to use once I start trying to min/max more once I get the rest set up!
I love your posts Summer. If I may contribute to the discussion, here are some small issues I encountered with workers and workshops. 1). Massive projects like forest wagon construction seem to have a mechanic that limits the number of jobs you can do in a session. This limit is defined by current worker stamina. If you log in once a day, there may be a scenario where you’d be better off with humans or giants. But if you log in frequently then goblins seem to be supreme. 2) the thrifty skill needs to be understood. It’s proc only seems to value if mats used are greater than 10. 3) I don’t know if the mount knowledge skill makes the worker work better in ship construction or if it only works on ship parts?
If you could somehow reach high enough workspeed for some of the excavation nodes to be completed in fewer ticks then workspeed past 150 matters :) Just a small caveat to this great and compact overview. They should include your guide in the gane for new players, nothing teaches you about how all this works 😢
1. THE BEST WORK VIDEO EVER 2. There is still one open question: goblin talent work speed increase, how does it work? Here’s what I saw (and then if u have answer). The talent speed increase does not show when u assign a worker (eg abase worker speed of 145 + farm speed of +5 will show effective speed of 150)... talent speed increase does not show here. WHAT I SAW HAPPEN WAS a. A job showed a gob would take 3 ticks. B. When I pressed start work, the job actually TOOK 2 ticks. In other words, the theory is the goblin talent work speed increase is added after you press start work (and the addition of the talent speed might bring it down a tick). So the question is (that I don’t know) is how much work speed increase does goblin talent add.
Goblins have higher sheet work speed. That's all there is to it What happened for you is probably that the worker's skills put him over the workload threshold (skills are not included in the sheet stats)
Always amazing coverage on the node system you are the most knowledgeable TH-camr about nodes after me of course You have no idea how sad I am and the fact that I have to remake my entire guide based on the online / offline gameplay timer that of course is not assumed or taken into account in workermen cos' it wasn't objectified anywhere yet Probably the most in depth and preside guide out there as of now...nontheless very inefficient I am saying this after realizing my mistakes after months of upgrading and rerolling workers and it's very frustrating to admit that even my guide was average :3
How exactly does the lvl 40 skill "Deliver good to chosen storage" work. Does it essentially change the city the worker operates out of? Do you have to have that city connected to the node the worker is working on? For example could I make all my Altinova Aritsan workers work out of Tarif b/c its closer to so many nodes they work on? Or does it just make them drop off the goods in the storage of your choice to keep everything organized? Which is also really good tbh.
Great worker guide i had no idea about how the workload was actualy calculated. As far as we know, humans are not worth it in any node, eve for the lucky drops, the goblin competing the cycle fater is probably better in the long run. One thing i wished you talk about is how crafting works whith workers. What is the best worker for a workshop? I assume the goblin since the giants dont realy have a bonus, but i could be wrong.
very informative video, thanks for that! i was just wondering if i should fire my professional workers that fail the promotion multiple times or is it worth keeping them?
what about the workshops for crates and such... we do need workspeed aswell ? movement speed ? obviously the ADv packing skill is a priority but except that and the thrifties what else would be a priority ? ty
Workspeed is important, the same workspeed-bracket logic applies (crates tend to have either 60 or 225 workload). For crate workers, priority is packing skills, then thrifty, then movement speed
@@summer_rains whats a good level to fire a potato goblin that you lvl for crate workshop ? many reached like lvl 30 already and they tend to have both shit skills and stats...
@@nonfactor9937 the strat is to keep them working at lvl. 30 and re-roll skills. Alternatively you could fire and re-hire but I'd do that at lvl. 25 the latest.
Hey i would like to ask something m doing trade box from Valencia to Nampo What i need ? WorkSpeed or Workload ? Btw i know about +3 ore +3 wood stuffs . thanks a lot
You would want to hit the workspeed breakpoints, just like with nodes. The breakpoints depend on the crate, most common crates have 225 workload (2-cycle with a >=112.5 workspeed goblin or human ), 150 workload (one-cycle with a >=150 workspeed goblin) and something like 75 workload (not sure about exact value) which any artisan worker can do.
If you don't process you can sell the mats raw. Most timber and ore nodes are very high income, even if you don't plan to process the mats. You can focus on simply picking up high value nodes.
From what one person I saw saying, supposedly once you hit level 40 on a worker it takes a lot less exp to reach each percent for rerolling skills. No idea how true that is though.
some guy on reddit... As far as the patch notes go, EXP is the same from lvl. 30 to 40. In the same thread you'll find Goroshi, an authority on workers, confirming that.
Would you happen to know where a datamined resource on that could be? I'll take your word, although I would also like to confirm it myself but can't find any good datamined charts on it.
@@pinie111May 24th patch notes don't say. Just says they reduced the exp required for levels 1 to 30. Doesn't say anything about exp required for 30 to 40 or for 40+.
Very good Video! One question: If i have a lvl 40 worker and reroll one of his skills to craftsmanship, do i get 0.2 * 40 work speed or do i get nothing cuz worker is already lvl 40.
God i need this guide so much ! Btw, if you reroll and get craftmanship skill on a level 40 workers, is that gonna work ? I mean is it level 40 x 0,2 or we get the 0,2 WHEN the workers level up only ?
And if you are truly OCD about your workers like I am, then do not level them pass 30 until they get Blessed Hand, Craftsmanship (depending on what you are going for).
So is there ever a case where human workers are better? Because right now, most of my workers are mostly human. Not that I specifically targeted those workers, but they were the most common skilled workers that popped up for me. Should I get rid of them, many are artisans, and reroll for goblins and giants?
According to shrddr.github.io/workerman/plantzones, humans are rarely the best worker. They can make sense if you value the lucky procs highly, but even then, goblins and giants are often still better. I would only get rid of a human if goblins/giants significantly outperform them, otherwise, it's not worth the hassle IMO. You can compare workers by hovering over the worker icon on the site I linked.
Before the worker update, some nodes would have the regular items mirrored in the lucky table and some had no lucky drop at all. The worker update introduced the sacks.
wtf. How do you know all these stuff? I thought those resource columns on the world map was about farming crops. Does the game in any way or shape explain these things in a tutorial or something? I am playing since release and never knew the relationship between resource level of a certain node and the workload. What a huge ass game... still have no idea how sht works...
May be mentioned in the ingame wiki, it's actually a decent source. I picked up a lot of info by watching guides (Morrolans advanced worker guide back in the day) and following the worker discussion in the lifeskill Discord over the years.
You're amazing! This content is the exact niche that can't be found or understood if I try to read it, but when laid out like this makes it comprehensible.
One thing worth noticing is the Worker Skill Change UI can got the bug when:
> You accidently click on skill A, despite the skill doesn't glow up, the game think that you chose skill A.
> When you choose another skill, e.g. skill B, the game still think that you chose skill A, so skill A will got rolled off instead of skill B.
The method I'm using to avoid this bug is always make sure the skill I want glow up in the first time I click it. If it doesn't, close the skill change popup and reopen it.
Hope it helps :">
Oh, I didn't know about that. Thanks for mentioning!
Summer, Thank you very much for your efforts in educating the BDO population like myself. I am grateful for your hard work and amazing explanations for the in-depth mechanics this game has to offer. You are amazing and do excellent work! Keep it up! We love it!
this was extremely well put together, concise and informative. Covered every question i was wondering on the topic, and even provided some insight to things i had not even considered. Please make more videos like this! Valuable content, much appreciated
finally found an in depth worker explanation, every other guide is just about which node is best
Your channel is amazing. Gonna upvote every video I watch. Good job.
Yo waddup its summer back with another banger
Just as an addendum, the 3rd, yellow column when looking at the region resources is for Investment Banking. That thing no one should've touched anytime in the last 5 or so years.
Thanks Summer, got all my artisan workers so just waiting for level 40 and then on to min-maxing those skills. But now I have a better understanding!
Thanks for a deeper update on workers easier for everyone to understand!
Excellent explanation. Thanks so much.
Great explanation dude, I really apreciate people like you. Thank you to share ur knowloges
Great video. Always good to watch vids like this for reminders on what to check in the worker empire.
Great information as always! I haven't looked too far into the workers yet. I've just been trying to get the best workers on the useful/best nodes atm and get them to artisan. This is very helpful and will put it to use once I start trying to min/max more once I get the rest set up!
Great video as awlays! Reall enjoying the views!
best video u made in ages. Well done man!
exactly what i was looking for. i was surprised, and sadge I've been rolling move/work speed like crazy, and alot way past 150 (goblins).
omg this is so much new information :D thank you
Thank you for this guide, it's amazing!
I love your posts Summer. If I may contribute to the discussion, here are some small issues I encountered with workers and workshops. 1). Massive projects like forest wagon construction seem to have a mechanic that limits the number of jobs you can do in a session. This limit is defined by current worker stamina. If you log in once a day, there may be a scenario where you’d be better off with humans or giants. But if you log in frequently then goblins seem to be supreme.
2) the thrifty skill needs to be understood. It’s proc only seems to value if mats used are greater than 10.
3) I don’t know if the mount knowledge skill makes the worker work better in ship construction or if it only works on ship parts?
If you could somehow reach high enough workspeed for some of the excavation nodes to be completed in fewer ticks then workspeed past 150 matters :)
Just a small caveat to this great and compact overview.
They should include your guide in the gane for new players, nothing teaches you about how all this works 😢
Thx for the video. Very usefull.
Thank you! The video is amazing!
1. THE BEST WORK VIDEO EVER
2. There is still one open question: goblin talent work speed increase, how does it work? Here’s what I saw (and then if u have answer). The talent speed increase does not show when u assign a worker (eg abase worker speed of 145 + farm speed of +5 will show effective speed of 150)... talent speed increase does not show here. WHAT I SAW HAPPEN WAS a. A job showed a gob would take 3 ticks. B. When I pressed start work, the job actually TOOK 2 ticks. In other words, the theory is the goblin talent work speed increase is added after you press start work (and the addition of the talent speed might bring it down a tick). So the question is (that I don’t know) is how much work speed increase does goblin talent add.
Goblins have higher sheet work speed. That's all there is to it
What happened for you is probably that the worker's skills put him over the workload threshold (skills are not included in the sheet stats)
@@summer_rains gotcha. So does the goblin talent actually do anything then?
@@vazygee4866 it's not a talent like the giant's resource bonus, it's simply an in-built stat increase
@@summer_rains ty. Feel free to delete my comment if it will distract from your awesome video
lol no worries@@vazygee4866
learned alot from this tks
Thanks so much! You really help out my ADHD brain! Plus I can re watch to test my memory!
Always amazing coverage on the node system you are the most knowledgeable TH-camr about nodes after me of course
You have no idea how sad I am and the fact that I have to remake my entire guide based on the online / offline gameplay timer that of course is not assumed or taken into account in workermen cos' it wasn't objectified anywhere yet
Probably the most in depth and preside guide out there as of now...nontheless very inefficient
I am saying this after realizing my mistakes after months of upgrading and rerolling workers and it's very frustrating to admit that even my guide was average :3
How exactly does the lvl 40 skill "Deliver good to chosen storage" work. Does it essentially change the city the worker operates out of? Do you have to have that city connected to the node the worker is working on? For example could I make all my Altinova Aritsan workers work out of Tarif b/c its closer to so many nodes they work on?
Or does it just make them drop off the goods in the storage of your choice to keep everything organized? Which is also really good tbh.
The worker drops off the goods in the designated city after he's done with the task. Happens instantly and no node connection is needed.
Great worker guide i had no idea about how the workload was actualy calculated. As far as we know, humans are not worth it in any node, eve for the lucky drops, the goblin competing the cycle fater is probably better in the long run. One thing i wished you talk about is how crafting works whith workers. What is the best worker for a workshop? I assume the goblin since the giants dont realy have a bonus, but i could be wrong.
yeah goblin is best for workshops
very informative video, thanks for that! i was just wondering if i should fire my professional workers that fail the promotion multiple times or is it worth keeping them?
I'd fire them as soon as you have a prof+ replacement
So by your explanation chiro's blueprints are not lucky drops and it's better to have a goblin there, Right?
Yes
I love you!
what about the workshops for crates and such... we do need workspeed aswell ? movement speed ? obviously the ADv packing skill is a priority but except that and the thrifties what else would be a priority ?
ty
Workspeed is important, the same workspeed-bracket logic applies (crates tend to have either 60 or 225 workload). For crate workers, priority is packing skills, then thrifty, then movement speed
@@summer_rains whats a good level to fire a potato goblin that you lvl for crate workshop ? many reached like lvl 30 already and they tend to have both shit skills and stats...
@@nonfactor9937 the strat is to keep them working at lvl. 30 and re-roll skills. Alternatively you could fire and re-hire but I'd do that at lvl. 25 the latest.
@@summer_rains I mean, isn't much more time efficient to fire/sell at 25 VS lvling 20% for 1 skill reroll?
@@nonfactor9937 sure, if you can consistently get fresh artisan goblins
i learn something new here thx
what class are you using in the video? She gorgeous!
Valk :)
Hey i would like to ask something m doing trade box from Valencia to Nampo What i need ? WorkSpeed or Workload ? Btw i know about +3 ore +3 wood stuffs . thanks a lot
You would want to hit the workspeed breakpoints, just like with nodes. The breakpoints depend on the crate, most common crates have 225 workload (2-cycle with a >=112.5 workspeed goblin or human ), 150 workload (one-cycle with a >=150 workspeed goblin) and something like 75 workload (not sure about exact value) which any artisan worker can do.
movement speed matters when worker is producing in a workshop in the same city? or only when uu have the workshop in another city?
The worker still has to walk to the workshop. This can take up to 2-3 mins depending on how far out the workshop is.
If u reset Craftsmanship and Legwork which both give stats per lvl up , stats earned per lvl still remain ?
Yes
What's the best thing to do with a worker node empire if you don't want to process?
If you don't process you can sell the mats raw. Most timber and ore nodes are very high income, even if you don't plan to process the mats. You can focus on simply picking up high value nodes.
What does it mean if you get a pop up saying your worker hit the jackpot?
From what one person I saw saying, supposedly once you hit level 40 on a worker it takes a lot less exp to reach each percent for rerolling skills. No idea how true that is though.
some guy on reddit...
As far as the patch notes go, EXP is the same from lvl. 30 to 40. In the same thread you'll find Goroshi, an authority on workers, confirming that.
Would you happen to know where a datamined resource on that could be? I'll take your word, although I would also like to confirm it myself but can't find any good datamined charts on it.
@@Darklordiban7check the patchnotes from when they increased the worker lvl
@@pinie111May 24th patch notes don't say. Just says they reduced the exp required for levels 1 to 30. Doesn't say anything about exp required for 30 to 40 or for 40+.
Very good Video! One question: If i have a lvl 40 worker and reroll one of his skills to craftsmanship, do i get 0.2 * 40 work speed or do i get nothing cuz worker is already lvl 40.
I'd assume you get nothing since it only applies on level-up
God i need this guide so much !
Btw, if you reroll and get craftmanship skill on a level 40 workers, is that gonna work ?
I mean is it level 40 x 0,2 or we get the 0,2 WHEN the workers level up only ?
I assume it only applies on level-up
@@summer_rains ah i see, so it will be useless to get those at level 40, right ?
yes@@SkullJr
And if you are truly OCD about your workers like I am, then do not level them pass 30 until they get Blessed Hand, Craftsmanship (depending on what you are going for).
What class are you playing on your video?
is a Valk :)
So is there ever a case where human workers are better? Because right now, most of my workers are mostly human. Not that I specifically targeted those workers, but they were the most common skilled workers that popped up for me. Should I get rid of them, many are artisans, and reroll for goblins and giants?
According to shrddr.github.io/workerman/plantzones, humans are rarely the best worker. They can make sense if you value the lucky procs highly, but even then, goblins and giants are often still better. I would only get rid of a human if goblins/giants significantly outperform them, otherwise, it's not worth the hassle IMO. You can compare workers by hovering over the worker icon on the site I linked.
Gosh I wish I learned about all of this sooner. Now I have to replace lots of my artisan workers as quite a bit of them are humans haha
So you mean to say is that the luck trait of workers doesn't exist before 2022?
Or this is a change in the mechanics of the trait
Before the worker update, some nodes would have the regular items mirrored in the lucky table and some had no lucky drop at all. The worker update introduced the sacks.
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uhm, i have a human that has 114 work speed. and he is also only lvl 30, just saying..
Great videos
wtf. How do you know all these stuff? I thought those resource columns on the world map was about farming crops. Does the game in any way or shape explain these things in a tutorial or something? I am playing since release and never knew the relationship between resource level of a certain node and the workload. What a huge ass game... still have no idea how sht works...
May be mentioned in the ingame wiki, it's actually a decent source. I picked up a lot of info by watching guides (Morrolans advanced worker guide back in the day) and following the worker discussion in the lifeskill Discord over the years.
no there isnt anything explained, any knowledge is based on community effort figuring stuff out
@@Moonbreaker97Owo hi moon
@@summer_rains ahhh, the boolie is back :
tldr; Giant best worker
Artisan Giant is now OP? and human worst in most place? Oh no... I have mostly human workers:(
oh no D:
really don't need to see that your characters are your spank bank in a video intro but ydy
Poor guide, did not even talked about Diochre! :P