Ehhh....not enough negativity. You were too kind, need more vulgar tone towards me. I have spent years engineering the depth of my scams. Way to much logic and critical thinking being used by Vince. Not enough emotional agitation. Love u long time.
Rudy wanted a controversy, he got one. Alas, no big news "rich man gets richer", but this was coming with "I will do it and you'll watch me get rich". Well, I guess he got what he asked for. Money and people talking about it :D
Props to him. I mean, he's not sneaky about it, he tells us what he is doing while he is doing it. I can only bear his content for a few days at a time, but generally I like his attitude.
Rudy's an entertainer and he knows business. I wouldn't trust anything specific he says about selling cards because that's tied up with his own personal investments and he has admitted to manipulating the market with his channel, but when he talks about business in general, he does have solid advice there.
Rudy worked for years in managing investments for people, so he really does know his shit. If you can't give anything else to the man, you have to admit that he is knowledgeable and aware of how any of these financial systems work.
Rudy made his money buying bonds from his advising clients during the 2008 crisis. Regardless of how ethical that is it does show how his advice is designed to enrich himself. I find his videos entertaining and informative but you have to keep in mind he's a salesman.
@@pyredynasty bingo. Every single thing that Rudy does is for Rudy. He even says as much all the time. ' "We are all here for a short while, so maximize everything in your favor." ' A basic paraphrase of his attitude.
@@ChrisBryer because it's not an investment. It's an MLM. The market Rudy has cultivated is nothing more than investors selling to each other, fueled by generating FOMO and encouraging his simps to harass and bully anyone who questions him.
The funny thing is, I've been a Patron of Rudy's for years now and only recently went to the $15 level so that we could buy boxes for this channel. Even as a $1 patron for years, Rudy has been nothing be kind and courteous to me. He really is the sweetest guy around. He plays up being a scumb bag but that's actually the furthest from the truth. In the conversations I've had with him he's been straightforward with me. I asked him about doing a box opening to promote this channel. And he straight up said we could but they don't usually work. He could have just taken our money and done the video, but he was honest with us and told us the truth. The scumbag Rudy thing really is an honest to God act. And it's brilliant. I just wish more people realized it was an act and didn't get so wound up. -Dave.
Yeah if you watch his channel, it's pretty clear the joke is he isn't trying to be scummy but that's what everyone wants to say, so he plays into it. I've never got the inclination that he's actually a bad person. Just just makes good calls and comes at tcg/ccg with a professional background and a unique show. People just hate on him cuz they like to tell themselves that it's collectors faults vintage is ruined lol as if tcg/ccgs are not created for collects as well as players. Kinda petty and immature mentalities to me. The have not victim complex has alot to do with it too
@@Kavewolf1989 yeah I completely agree man. I don't own a lot of RL and I'm a broke ass motherfucker. But you're exactly right, the "Have-not victim mentality" spoiled whiny entitled brats who think they should just have anything they want in life without having to earn it. The more you get to know Rudy or get a glimpse into who he really is the funnier the joke gets! 🤣
@@impolitemtg3225 hell yeah I've been watching him since he was telling people to buy Khans of tarkir boxes when they were selling for 90 dollars a box. I think his funniest stunt was saying wizards finally gave him a preview card, and sat down and ate a taco 12 pack in silence instead xD what a mad lad
@@Xoulrath_ Haven't tried it have you? I could say the same for MTG and imagine a few vanilla creatures fighting but I'd be way off as well since that's hardly the tip of the MTG iceberg as we all know. Flesh and Blood has more depth and decision to it than just comparing numbers just sayin. (not trying to compare the two directly, they feel like different beasts to me and I like both games).
So, after having watched Rudy for a while and having watched his video of topic, I believe that the promo money design is to fund the the 3 distributors who FaB holds in high regard, to reinvest the capitol from the promos into becoming larger FaB distribution hubs. This helps with its ongoing distribution problems while bolstering its 3 early adopters.
I feel that as long as Rudy was honest about his intent with the Flesh and Blood creator, then it was his to do with what he could, like it or leave it.
I have no thoughts on this other than "Good for Rudy." Now FaB content on this channel, that's exciting! Heck, maybe even have a pit fight with Olivia and all the usual commander players.
I have thought that Rudy was a shady character playing a shadier character for his vids. This just comes across as him selling a product in a market that he manipulates but ultimately I really don't care. I do not have any interest in Flesh and Blood or Rudy but if people are happy buying the cards... fine? My opinion of him is unchanged- his content is not for me.
Yeah, it sounds like they're aesthetic replacements of existing cards, or otherwise not tournament legal? In those cases, they're not necessary game pieces. Who cares that they're limited and/or collectible.
But that's what's brilliant about this scheme. Even if he sold these cards for a million each, it has no effect on the gameplay whatsoever. His promo is useless as a game-piece other than being able to flex with a bunch of perfect graded unplayable cards as a meme deck. It just puts money into his pocket while getting some extra attention on the game. If this is where WOTC had taken their secret lair and universe beyond cards, no one would mind. Alternate collectible cards with no game use whatsoever is fine. Give the people who want to spend cash on something pretty to put on their wall and in their binder. Do not make cards that fundamentally alter the base game.
I’ve watched many Rudy videos: the box opening intros going through his basement let’s you know he has been a millionaire for a while😂 If I could make millions and also own all those cards, boy would I. Rudy’s the man! I don’t have any interest in FAB though.
Its wild that videos like this get made after something becomes successful. Rudy has been a millionaire lol doing 1.5 every weekend haha Seriously though, Rudy believed in this game in 2019. He took a chance, put his own money at risk when many people did not including myself when he offered 1st edition Welcome to Wrath boxes for like $70 to his Patrons. Call him whatever you want but as a long time Patron the dude is genuine. At the end of the day, he is a nerd that came from a modest background, followed his dreams, built a business model out of it and is now sharing that dream with the public and anyone who took a chance with him is doing VERY WELL believe me! The American dream is the belief that anyone, regardless of where they were born or what class they were born into, can attain THEIR OWN VERSION of success in a society in which upward mobility is possible for everyone and there's NOTHING CRINGE about that.
The thing is Rudy plays the bag guy big time. He's also unapologetically an American dream buy low sell high kind of guy and has been, in his own words, since he was a boy. He's also open about this, he's open he buys up and holds onto stuff to make more money and invest in it or in the case of alpha and power 9 stuff to hold on for the long term
"Business owner makes money due to special relationship with other business owner who could have extended this to customers instead." Still no surprise.
Another perspective is this stunt may bring more attention to the game, making potential new players aware of it for the first time. The downside is possibly attracting cardboard investors who just care about the $$$😬
@@daybreak817 As someone who just played FAB this entire weekend, declared to my Magic playgroup it's better than Magic, than watched this video had a meltdown, only to agree with PK on this topic, it's a fun game :D
@@daybreak817 - You should give it a try. The "it's for investors" meme is ridiculous and inaccurate. The "expensive collectibles" aspect only applies to first-edition prints, which are limited runs, but every set also has an Unlimited print edition. It's unfair and dishonest to point to first-edition, cold foil cards with high price points and declare "it's just for investors" when a cheap version of the same card exists in unlimited. It would be like saying Shivan Dragon is proof that Magic is unplayable because the Alpha card costs like, $2000.
Yeah but FAB is largely immune to a lot of the bullshit of MTG. Since there is a reprint of demand version of every set you can't price people out of cards. Sure they can buy first edition cards and sit on them, but you don't need first editions to play, so even if someone buys literally every first edition version of a rare weapon, that will not stop people from having an affordable alternative.
I've been a fan of Rudy since the good ol days of 2k subs. He was a millionaire long before he FaB was even a thought. MTG/FaB isn't his primary investment, though he has millions of dollars in assets between both games. His videos are great as he constantly tells you not to give into hype/fomo and to enjoy the game as it should be enjoyed with friends. His buyouts are always with cards that are weird/already vastly out of reach for 90% Of the community.
I'm a Patron of Rudy's and have been for years. I'm an MTG guy and have never purchased any FaB product. My opinion as far as the Gemkeeper promo, it is what it is. You don't have to buy if you don't want to. Not gonna lie though, if I was a SUPER WHALE, I probably would've bought one or 2 just for fun. He's doing updates on the value, and has already done a video on how they sold during the 24hr window. It was a HUGE bell curve. Apparently a lot of FaB whales were working together to see how many would sell and based their decisions on that. Most sold within the first hour, then about 1 an hour for the next 22 hours, and a HUGE uptick in the last hour of the sale. He didn't release updates on sold stock during those 24 hours, the only way to tell if it had been sold out is if you tried to purchase one and it was unavailable. But that never happened. He ended up selling about 1350, leaving about 200 left to burn. If I've learned anything in the last year, ANY product, single card or box that he gives a nod or a thumbs up to SKYROCKETS in price as soon as the video releases. So if there's any cards you want or need that you think have a probability of making it into one of his videos, BUY NOW AND DON'T WAIT. He has a dangerously high impact and influence on the MTG market, which is good and bad. I signed up to be a Patron years back because I really enjoyed his videos. But now, as of about 1.5 years ago, he stopped accepting patrons, so whoever was in was in, and only new patrons could get in if someone dropped out. I just wanted to support the guy and get cheap Standard boxes, but now it's like being in an exclusive club. He gets exclusive FaB and Metazoo product, and investors that can't get in are foaming at the mouth to get a patreon spot to have the access. If it were possible, I could probably sell my Patron spot for hundreds of dollars if not more. It's become insane. But I still like the guy and still support him, despite him not needing any help at all lol.
Honestly, the biggest thing regarding the FAB "It's a scam" thing that makes me laugh is that the cards being sold here aren't playable, as you pointed out. In contrast, magic has nonsense like the fetchland secret lair, or the reserve list in general, locking stables like the original duals away, restricting older formats. Whenever someone talks about the super crazy high prices in flesh and blood, I can't help but think of the cost of a playset of fetches even just a year ago, or the price of getting into legacy. Honestly, my experience with Flesh and Blood has been that it's generally fun, this seems like just a fun way of LSS giving Rudy a return on his investment in them, in a fun and relatively unique way. Maybe not the best move, but it's an interesting one, and does get more eyes on the game.
It doesn’t matter at the end of the day. The game gets in mouths, and the story gets shared. I think it was super clever to get this much attention with a non legal card.
I would have just liked to see them used a more of a give away tool for hype and such instead of another investment. Like when The Prof opened that huge MH2 booster box in the booster box game and gave away the two old border fetchlands to random supporters on his Patreon.
As a buyer of this product and a supporter of fab/content creator - I felt dirty buying this but also felt that i HAD TO because of LSSs support. I feel dirty.
When I saw the video, I thought it was a great idea and was pissed I wasn’t a patron to buy it, soI could sell it later. The absurd way the FAB cards are revered by those who collect them can only really make this promo go up in value.
I love the people that comment “he was already a millionaire”. Guys watch the video for like a min. Remember kids. Watching the video explains the video.
@@thedarklordragnar5989 so I can get PleasantKenobi to comment "no shit! Watch the Video!" on it so I am able to reply yes Daddy....you don't get many opportunities to embody creepy Rudy.
Clearly they wanted the cards sold by Rudy otherwise they wouldn't have printed 1500 for him. I'd say that's a bit beyond personal use lol. As for shady basement taco Rudy, power to him. If I could make 1.5 mil tomorrow there isn't much I wouldn't do let alone just sell a few cards.
erm except they where printed 2 year ago as a thank you for supporting them when many others would not and refused to even stock a few boxes, while rudy ordered pallets and did free advertizement and videos and whatnot else for them. But you are correct bout one thing LSS wanted this to happen and worked with him on it. And MAN is it working. You cannot buy this kind of advertisement for 1.5 million, and it cost them some cardboard.
That's the thing, we are jealous of him doing so well for himself but for me more out of "damn I wish I had that drive and confidence and bravery" rather than " wah it's not fair, he's big meanie"
This was already done to a certain extent by a game from the early beginnings of the CCG craze. Galactic Empires developed the bug for promo card craziness. Originally intended to be an novel concept for a business card soon turned into a way to generate profit for the company. The buyers of these cards as they would of course sell them. And throw rich kid syndrome into the game mainly because these cards were legal to use in the game. Players of the game at the time saw this and complained, and it forced them to create an article in their house organ magazine to essentially defend the practice by what seemed like a "suck it up, buttercup" attitude. Obviously Galactic Empires is no longer, whether because of this, probably not - but who knows.
Just as a thought: many Magic players will say part of their motivation for playing is the return they can expect (or think they can expect) when they finally do stop and sell their cards. I think most of that is BS, honestly, but if Rudy's card is out there as a rare collectible so be sought after, wouldn't it help drive those kind of people who invest in a game to see returns on it? And in that case, it might add to the longevity of the game itself.
You forgot to mention that Rudy got this card because he believed in the game before it was popular. He could have sold it at the start for $20 or $50 a card back in 2019 when fab was nothing. But he believed in the game and held onto it. Now that it took off, he is able to offer this for way more money. Every single person had the same opportunity when welcome to wrath came out. If you believed in the game in 2019 you could have not boxes for $70, and sell them for $6000+. That is 100x your money. So yea he made 1.5million, but he could have easily lost a bunch too if fab never took off. As Rudy says, his biggest fear is never taking chances. It is easy to cry about others making money when they are the ones taking chances and people sit around doing nothing.
When I saw his video advertising this sale to his patrons i was mind blown. I did not like it but at the same time I wanted to see how it would unfold. I just hope Wizards does not get any ideas and starts selling even more expensive shit. Image Reserve List cards (not tournament legal versions) in a fancy box for hundreds of dollars.
"Image Reserve List cards (not tournament legal versions) in a fancy box for hundreds of dollars" Umm... this is literally what I want though? Seriously - an "OG Dual Lands" secret lair with 10 cards reprinted with new art and M15 frames for $1000. Let's go. It would lower the average price point of dual lands to $100 per land, which would significantly reduce the entry floor for formats like Legacy while providing commander players a way to get their singletons for less, all without tanking the value of even the Revised duals. Sell it at local game stores, and everyone wins.
@@KingBobXVI that'd do none of what you described. Legacy players won't want it cause not tournament legal. Commander players playing at sanctioned events won't want. The only people who want it are going to be casual kitchen magic players and even then they're dumb for doing it. If it's a non legal card that's filling a spot for the legal one you can't afford its an overglorified proxy so just buy an actual proxy for a couple bucks and save yourself money and don't support wotc trying that scam
When it comes to the optics - is this a large enough event to become a big part of what new players will experience when they look for more information about the game? Cause people who are watching Rudy should have an idea of the game so there's no surprise for them. I'm just curious if this will even leave a mark on FAB and their reach as they continue to grow. For example.. I had no idea this happened and not sure I would ever run into it unless I went looking for it.
Very interesting point; will this just fade into the anals of history, more obscure than Mana Crypt's origins in MTG, or will it become a well known and heavily discussed sticking point. Time will tell.
@@PleasantKenobi I'm interested to see now.. though will probably forget about it lol unless you are the taco man bring it up in the near future. Until then I'll just continue to scratch my beard and drink my milk as I enjoy your content.
@@PleasantKenobi I would suspect the former is the more likely; had you not made this video, I seriously doubt I would have ever heard about this in the first place, and the card in question being a deliberately unplayable joke makes it unlikely to be particularly memorable long term, except as a piece of obscure trivia. Mana Crypt it is not.
I honestly don’t mind Rudy that much. Sometimes he has interesting things to say, sometimes I just tune it out for background noise while I do something else. I am thankful that he’s talked about Flesh and Blood. Otherwise I too would be in the dark about it. Am I a bit frustrated about the financial structure of the game? Sure. It’s hard to get the expensive cards out of a booster box, but you use the Prof’s ideology about buying singles and you’re probably gonna be doing well quickly. To those saying the game is too expensive… bah humbug. If you’ll pay for multiple Mtg singles at $20 a pop, and not a single piece of equipment easily moved between decks.. I dunno what to tell you.
I don’t have particular issue with Rudy, and I even watch a lot of his videos. The guy is a salesman, he’s pretty up front about it, and anyone with half a brain knows to take whatever he’s hyping up in the context that he’s going to directly benefit from it. The issue I have are all the people out there that take his word as some kind of gospel and see him as a role model. There’s a ton of people who can’t parse through his legitimate financial advise/opinions, his sales pitches or personally biased speeches, and the stuff he’s said purely for the entertainment value.
I'm a Rudy Patreon. Could not see any way this would be usable or desirable, so I skipped it and picked up a couple of cases of Standard instead. Nice breakdown Vince, well reasoned.
Lss giving the card is like giving stock in a company in lieu of payment...if the company does well, you make money...if it does not it is worthless. Tbf it doesnt concern me. I am a patron of his and I didn't buy because it is not worth it to me. If people feel like it is, then more power to them. At least r7dy was honest with his motives for this
I'm against evil investors, and against the reserve list(let the people play) but I love Rudy. He's funny and he wants to inform people so they don't make horrible financial decisions based on emotions. He's not always right, but he's fighting for the people by his own convictions.
I love that it's all just self-reporting on how many he sold how much they were worth etc. In my experience unless there's something to be gained from being so public most people with that kind of wealth don't feel any necessity to advertise it.
You mentioned people idolizing him because he is "making bank". You do know that he gives out a LOT of info to help people with finances(not financial advice, because of liability) and has in fact helped many people make some serious money through the deals he offers through his Patreon? Also, did you watch his follow up video on the subject? He claims he is a capitalist, but at times he hints & acts as if he is more of a free market guy than an actual capitalist. Yes, there is a difference.
I don’t ideologies Rudy, but I do think his information when he’s being serious, is priceless. If it weren’t for him I wouldn’t be doing TCG as my full time job. So, I honestly thank him for that. I wish I could thank him personally, honestly. However, some things he says and does are quite questionable. But he’s not a scammer, he tells you exactly what he’s doing and exactly what you’re going to get. He’s a businessman through and through and that’s not bad.
My take is this: rudy used his capital to keep the game alive through the worst time to be a real life game. Once people can gather in mass like before, FaB can thrive. Rudy was just rewarded for what he did. Afaik the stupidly expensive FaB items are limited editions and unlimited editions are affordable so who cares. If the game wasn't any good then it's a red flag but apparently people love playing it so that can't be a scam or pump and dump.
Don't understand how people think the game is a scam for investors when the "unlimited" boxes for every set are available, not counting a short waiting window post new release. The singles are cheap, the booster boxes are cheap, you don't need 3-4 copies of the "meta" cards, and even the the more expensive majestic/fabled cards aren't absolutely necessary to build strong decks. The primary investable aspect to the game thus far are the cold foils from the 1st edition boxes. How is that a scam?
Don’t forget how LSS seems to have printed more 1st edition tales and boxes are regularly available for under $125, bad for investors who preordered great for people buying in to play
@@cordanding2147 very true. Also, you hear many complaints about the flippers/short term investors pushing prices. It's a win/win for players and for the long term investors to buy in.
People can hate him all they want, but it’s a business move. It’s no different than MTG or Pokémon selling a limited item. Granted, it’s at a ridiculous cost, but that was the point, to see if people would buy it. Well apparently people are nuts and did so. It’s on the consumers that decide to purchase them. They didn’t have to, nobody forced them. Collecting or spending addictions aside, people with the money to buy those will do so no matter what anyone else says. Personally, I found it very interesting since the whole idea of the market setting a price seems very arbitrary and random with new items, especially limited. Interested to see what happens with these once the hype of the event wears off
People have every reason to hate him. He has cultivated a market of investors selling to each other, fueled by FOMO and encouraging his simps to harass and bully anyone who questions him. How is that any different from multilevel marketing?
I for one find everything Rudy does hilarious so this whole promo situation was awesome to watch unfold Edit: I too don’t think it really matters for FaB as a whole and I don’t even think it’ll be as big of a deal to the new players “on the fence” about joining the game. I don’t see why a non playable promo of a guy who supported the game at launch will make anyone turn away from the game, no matter how much the card goes for.
I thought the thumbnail was pretty click baity and all that. But I clicked and you just flat out honestly acknowledged it and explained why right off the bat. Lol that alone just redeems it all in an honest and transparent funny way and I quite think it's pretty refreshing , lol. So, i'll be clicking on all your future click baity thumbnail videos and titles from here on out! haha. Thanks for being awesome :)
To some on the fringe of magic and TCGs as a whole. It just makes that game looks like "oh its just a gambling game." Its not about the game. Its about the meta monetary value of card.
It's definitely _an_ aspect, but it's not the only one. Especially when it comes to non-essential game pieces, or even just non-playable promo items like this. The problem is people see FAB's first-edition card and box prices and decide it's only for investors, despite unlimited versions of the same products existing for cheap. MTG has its issues with card economy, but it would be unfair to call the game unplayable just because an Alpha print of Shivan Dragon is like $2000 or whatever. The same card exists in modern reprints for like, $0.20. Multiple groups of players and/or collectors are being catered to.
To be fair hes not the only one that has done this . And I believe it's just people who want unique cards I personally know people who get unique cards that fully know some cards aren't playable but just want them because they want them. But I love that you are very fair in this video.
For the record, any time I've had any of those "flesh and blood feels like a fad or scam" thoughts independently the root always kinda stems from the push for the game I felt like came from this guy, like it was artificial and wouldn't have been a big deal were it not for this dude lowkey driving it for exactly this, and seeing this doesn't make me feel any less like this game is a scam.
@@Skeeerttttt They don’t. If that was the case they wouldn’t support LGS’ or nerf Heroes before they could damage the meta (Chane). Rudy has supported this game for far longer than The Professor has, so it makes sense that he would be prioritized. And it’s not like The Professor is getting ignored given that he got a promo card.
@@Skeeerttttt Also I’m pretty sure that Rudy actually, you know, *likes Flesh and Blood as a game and wants it to succeed* otherwise he would’ve spend his money investing in MTG, which as a long established TCG is a better investment than risking losing your money by investing in a new TCG like FaB.
@@tiedomi80 who said it was? Rudy has every right to create a market and make money.....and I have every right to think how he makes that money is scummy. The difference is that my personal freedom to call someone deplorable doesn't infringe on anyone else's freedoms. So yeah, screw Rudy and any other wannabe investors in the ccg market.
@@CJ-nd9ggwhy would I hate a game I like to play, instead of the person/company making it harder to play the game? Just say "it is what it is", instead to trying to sound cool about supporting those that make it more difficult for people to enjoy things.
Anyone that thinks Rudy is a scam is truly clueless in life and has never truly listened to him. Yes plays a character. However his channel is one of the best financially educational video you will find on the internet as he makes it fun to learn. He is always honest when he is biased about things. Grow up people. You can climb out of your hole if you open your mind and try to learn something. His channel is a great start.
@Dwayne D For arguments sake we will pretend you are on the level. Why in gods earth would you be arguing over something like this that simply doesn’t apply to you? It’s also not for poor young people either. 90% of people have zero idea how the financial system works and his segments talking about options and the like are a great resource. If you had all this success and money, you’d actually know that. It makes anyone reading this see right though your internet tough guy know it all act. Enjoy your “millions”.
@Dwayne D Lol. No one that actually worked for their money would say this. So either a trust fund baby or just a story. Either way, you are sad. Assuming my personal status is hilarious, child.
I think you hit the nail on the head, it feels like a move that only clearly benefits one person: Rudy. Starting the price point at 1k vs. something more affordable for all of his patrons or just giving it away as a token to garner interest in the game itself would have been a more benevolent move. Honestly I’m a big fan of Rudy so it felt out of character IMO, but if the experiment works out and the card somehow gains value beyond the 1k price point there is benefit to those who bought in. My main worry is it will have the ripple effect of alienating those who haven’t yet given FAB a chance and make it appear even more inflated with speculation.
Actually it's going to make a ton of people talk about and discover Flesh and Blood who didn't before. It will attract investors too who actually DO help drive sales for TCGs and help make singles more available online for sale. Ultimately LSS needs to sell lots of cards and this will help, it's part of marketing FaB. Everyone commenting here is helping this video get more attention too, and is proof that the publicity stunt is working to the benefit of FaB. 😊👍
I found this to be totally fair. I personally like Rudy and have learned so much about how to save money, not throw my money around and yeah, it’s alright to have this constructive criticism. Whatever, some people have really focused on investing in tcg‘s and most not. At the end of the conversation it doesn’t actually matter and it won’t affect the format. It’s all good, Rudy just has his marketing style and that’s fine. No worries and I’m looking forward to ‚The Calling ‚ in Utrecht!
I feel like Rudy has been secretly(or not so secretly) been working his ass off to keep FaB going both publicly and privately and this was the creators backdoor scheme to pay it forward so to speak. Either way good for Rudy for turning essentially a meme thank you into profit while continuing to garner attention for this game. I've always loved his content and this is just more comedy to have a chuckle about.
I totally agree that it doesn't matter. I almost bought one, but I chickened out. What would you do if WOTC made a Pleasant Kenobi one of a kind card, and gave you the only 1500 copies? Of course they would make it Silver Border, so it couldn't be played. 😃
I think these kinds of thing are awesome, so long as they're rare and not necessary to play the game. I may or may not have donated quite a bit to Doctors Without Borders during the Good Luck High Five charity stream where two of the employee cards were up for grabs >_> (Didn't get it, sadly)
Maybe the company should have directed the "payout" at the players. But, their decision to "payout" Rudy might have been better. It's just a question of marketing.
I think that can be a win win situation. Rudy using drama as an asset makes a lot of sense if you buy his narrative of retiring from internet soon and that kind of promotion would cost FnB some money. Looking at the right angle, Rudy has no risk on this and FaB is making a gamble. If this was Rudy's idea, it was a good one and he would have to be stupid for not taking it. He wasn't doing anything illegal and on that scenario, a lot of people can and should take the million. If this blows up in the face of FaB makers, they had it coming for trying something cheap like that (appealing to internet's never ending thirst for drama). If this makes them a lot of money, good for them. People getting mad at things that aren't anywhere they control is kinda stupid. Play the game or drop the game, and that's it. The extreme: voice your concerns to your legislator. Rudy isn't a candidate, we aren't voting on him for anything. All we can do is moving on while hoping game companies stop doing stupid shit (reserved list, promo of a promo of a promo, etc.) - playing their games or not. For all purposes, feeding the drama/internet bs is the new "feed the troll". Don't agree with it? Don't like it? Stop talking about it. Don't recommend Rudy's video to all your friends so they can see how ridiculous it is - that was made Rudy famous and, again, kudos to him for reading the room. Tl,dr: Stop giving attention the stuff you don't like/you want to see gone. Hate Rudy? Well, he is relevant because people that hate him engaged his content and advertised it in their social circles. You people are the ones that make Rudy rich(er), not us, the people that watch him for entertainment before moving on with our lives.
I think the only thing that matters is that Rudy took a big chance backing a project right out of the gate with a significant amount of capital that he risked losing entirely. If LSS wants to thank him for being the reason they were able to succeed how they did then who the fuck has the right to have an opinion on it.
Vince has never eaten a Taco Bell party pack of floppy tacos in his parent's basement while getting his stuck stepsister out of a washing machine and it shows.
I mean Rudy is the quintessential example of Haters gonna Hate. This dude has been around for years hell decades even. He knows people hate him, he knows his channel, (love or hate it) has influence in the market and to top all this off. He doesn't rise to the hate like many would expect. Instead he's fueled by it. Let's be real, if you're successful and ppl hate it. It means you're doing it right! Fuck it, keep it going Rudy! Congrats on the potential millionaire club. And ofc Vince is just like alot of us. Unless Rudy has sniped your buy or you play FaB. This video is more of a nod then anything else. Vince doesn't care and honestly I have to agree. I don't play this particular game, namely due to the priceyness of entry. At least I can play things like Vintage and Legacy but would I sell staples to get into THIS game? Fuck No!! Great vid Vince!!
When it's any game that is basically pay to play,then it's just about money. Why can't you just print out cards to play the game without paying a fortune??
There were other TH-cam channels promoting Flesh and Blood while it was struggling, and before Rudy started promoting it. I believe they should have got the same treatment first, and I would be VERY interested to see if they get the same treatment in the future. To keep things 'fair'.
@@PleasantKenobi In pure numbers, Rudy definitely had the largest effect. But if you're talking Relative Growth of Audience, channels like Vault Games started promoting Flesh and Blood when they had zero market base. Smaller channels were doing card reveals, set reveals, gameplay videos and tutorials to promote Flesh and Blood up to a point where someone as big as Rudy would even bother to pick it up. To discount smaller, loyal promoters and just skipping straight to giving Rudy 1500 custom cards feels very disingenuous to me. I sincerely hope Flesh and Blood credit the smaller content creators that propped them up and helped them to get to where Rudy finally picked it up. Honestly.
While I agree with your point in principle, the reality is none of those stores / channels could probably afford to pay LSS $16k to make this thing happen. Rudy got it because Rudy could afford it.
@@project_swift Never even heard of Vault Games. Thats not to knock whatever content they are doing, but im guessing they havent made much of an impact. Also LSS has been supporting smaller creators and stores from the beginning, so you saying they skipped them is just straight up false.
@@garylynch6686 That is results oriented thinking, and using personal experiences over data. That's like someone saying "I've never even heard of Rudy until Vince's video, they couldn't have had much of an impact..." or "The women at my workplace get paid the same, the gender pay gap must be a myth." And the statement isn't false. They have gone straight to Rudy with this promotion. This is the first promotion of this kind and they have skipped over smaller content creators who have supported them and built them up for the first two years of the game. Yes, Flesh and Blood have been doing small bits to support smaller creators, but they've been doing the same small bits of support for larger creators. So they've still skipped over the small ones with this large promotion.
I suppose my big thought is just, I'm not exactly interested in buying into a game that is telegraphing they care more about collectors and speculators than players, I already have enough with magic, so with this game being so new and aiming in this direction, making these kinds of gestures, all it does is tell me to expect worse in the future, even if this particular piece isn't anywhere playable. If they keep this up, eventually they will have their own mana vault, their own nexus of fate, and I don't think I want to be there for it
I think it was absurdly expensive for what it is, but I think it's absolutely finebecause it's effectively an FoB Un-set Secret Lair and entirely non-essential.
I used to hate the exclusivity of mtg cards. Just because I had no money, why couldn’t I have nice things. As I recently bought a strixhaven foil Japanese alt art demonic tutor, I guess I’ve become more flexible on it, but I still feel there is a big difference between what should be a piece of cardboard, with other exclusive pieces of art, or like a god damn Ferrari. Having said that, what really gets me, what I absolutely cannot abide by, is the fomo bullshit. I’ll buy an item for twice the price if I can save up and buy it later, but the get it now and it’s never going to be reprinted is a scummy practice of the highest order. Which is why I’ve never bought a secret lair, and probably never will. If secret lairs were available all year round, but where print to order, that would be perfect, instead of the artificial scarcity that wotc employ. This story is no different. Haven’t played fab, sure it’s great, hearing about this doesn’t make me want to play it any more or less, but it certainly loses some respect.
Well they're not game pieces, and from what I understood he's had them for a while and has been sitting on them. They really only affect collectors anyway, so it's not like secret lairs...
@@josepedroguimaraes9887 not exactly. But there are still parallels to be made. And anyone who uses fomo (which Rudy did) deserves a special place in hell.
I think optics do matter, and I don't think this is the best look for FAB. I don't mind Rudy making money or stiring the pot, but yeah it really does not help the the perception that much of the games value is built on speculation. It's a fun game and this probably won't have any material effect on many save for Rudy making his money but I also can't imagine people looking back on this and thinking yeah that was good for the game.
The other non-playable promo (go bananas) was given for free aparently. My point is, LSS gave these things as a token of gratitude, and then they're someone else's property. What they do with them afterwards shouldn't really impact FAB imo.
@@josepedroguimaraes9887 The Go Bananas promo was not necessarily free. I think its mainly been for events but i also remember it being offered as a buy a case promo here and there.
If WOTC employees can’t sell the promo they are given they can just trade them. Don’t think wotc could go after them for that because that would then require them to completely acknowledge the secondary market
I get that people don't like the investing world getting into their cardboard hobby, but those people are living in the past. Conversely, those people probably like having the ability to sell their card collections for lots of money, and you can't have it both ways. It's not Rudy's responsibility to pander to people who are badmouthing him because they're unhappy. We shouldn't be attacking Rudy over Flesh and Blood when he's the reason it got popular. We should be criticizing the people who keep saying Flesh and Blood is a scam. They're the ones damaging the game. Flesh and Blood isn't a scam, their live event and all the attention the game is getting are proof of this. Rudy was likely the main reason the game got so much success in the first place, and if the company wants to reward him with promos, it's their right to. Showing loyalty despite 'mainstream' optics not favoring Rudy just makes me like the FaB company and developers even more. If Rudy wants to sell the promo cards to people, then that's also his right, and if his patrons want to take a risk on it, then it's their to assume that risk. Note that Rudy has been correct many times when predicting long-term market collectible trends. His actions suggest that at the very least he believes that the card will appreciate in value, especially after he engineered the spectacle of the sale, and then later him burning the rest and framing the ashes. I think the guy is heavily misunderstood, and a lot of the hatred of him has to do with the anger that people in the world feel right now because of the crushing cost of living, and the horrible way the rich get to play by different rules. They see Rudy as a part of that, which I don't really think is fair when he's offering products at a discount, buying collections for good money as a trusted buyer, and offering really good financial advice to people.
While it's possible he's sold all them, I kind of doubt he has. And if he has, I guess I just don't care. I enjoy Rudy for the most part. He's pretty honest about how things work and his video on income inequality was amazing imo. Of course he broke character and was serious (mostly) for that one. He's basically selling a novelty that doesn't matter as far as the game is concerned. As you say the card is unplayable. It's an Un-Card. I'd find it just as hard to get worked up if say WotC gave Prof an Un-Card of himself (assuming he wasn't blacklisted, but it works for the analogy) and he sold them to people. At the end of the day, that's what this is.
Ahhh, opening a shop in Jacksonville and then deciding to not even open it to the public just to milk his channel guy! watched him for awhile back in the day but caught the drift that he just uses everyone around him for his own purposes. All sorts of yuck and Jacksonville doesnt need any more of it.
Rudy invests in TCG’s, promotes and sells TCG products and provides HIS market insight on TCG’s. He uses TH-cam to do all the above exceptionally well. Is anyone surprised Legend Story Studios chose Rudy as the avenue to release these limited edition cards when he’s been their biggest and best promoter on TH-cam? This might be hard for some of you to hear, but he earned it.
erm rudy had these cards for ages, they where a thank you for promoting the game when nobody knew it and taking a risk. He kept them and was thinking about what to do with them for a long time. So he came up with this crazy publicity stunt. Promoting the game even more.
just like warhammer there are no players who expect a return on their investment. this is their hobby they just want to get 80% on their investment to play or slightly less after they are done playing
Causal people have no idea who Rudy is. Maybe this keeps the hardcore Magic people away, but then again, aren't they just looking for a reason to stay away anyways? There's no harm in this.
Ehhh....not enough negativity. You were too kind, need more vulgar tone towards me. I have spent years engineering the depth of my scams. Way to much logic and critical thinking being used by Vince. Not enough emotional agitation. Love u long time.
Hi Rudy!
Sir Rudy, you should make your own card game call it "Cash or Cardboard?"
how DARE you sell tradingcards people want to buy off you! you monster!
You gotta stop pointing out how the system is broken then people will harbour more spite towards you like some flintheart glomgold character.
Rudy showing up and asking for more Hate. Love it.
Rudy has more money tied up in cardboard rectangles than I have regrets. And I have many, many regrets.
Rudy has made more money than I've made bad decisions. And, well, you know the thing.
It’s cool how if you already have a lot of money people will just give you more.
In other news, water is wet.
Money makes money.
Church of Rudy 🤣
Rudy took a risk in promoting the game and distributing the sealed product for two years. He put in work. LSS didn't just give him free money.
Risk: "oh, well... i just make no money for this present i just recieved."
Rudy wanted a controversy, he got one. Alas, no big news "rich man gets richer", but this was coming with "I will do it and you'll watch me get rich". Well, I guess he got what he asked for. Money and people talking about it :D
Props to him. I mean, he's not sneaky about it, he tells us what he is doing while he is doing it. I can only bear his content for a few days at a time, but generally I like his attitude.
Rudy's an entertainer and he knows business. I wouldn't trust anything specific he says about selling cards because that's tied up with his own personal investments and he has admitted to manipulating the market with his channel, but when he talks about business in general, he does have solid advice there.
Rudy worked for years in managing investments for people, so he really does know his shit. If you can't give anything else to the man, you have to admit that he is knowledgeable and aware of how any of these financial systems work.
Rudy made his money buying bonds from his advising clients during the 2008 crisis. Regardless of how ethical that is it does show how his advice is designed to enrich himself. I find his videos entertaining and informative but you have to keep in mind he's a salesman.
@@pyredynasty bingo. Every single thing that Rudy does is for Rudy. He even says as much all the time. ' "We are all here for a short while, so maximize everything in your favor." ' A basic paraphrase of his attitude.
His early videos of him starting a card store from ground zero are really entertaining and educational I think
@@ChrisBryer because it's not an investment. It's an MLM. The market Rudy has cultivated is nothing more than investors selling to each other, fueled by generating FOMO and encouraging his simps to harass and bully anyone who questions him.
The funny thing is, I've been a Patron of Rudy's for years now and only recently went to the $15 level so that we could buy boxes for this channel. Even as a $1 patron for years, Rudy has been nothing be kind and courteous to me. He really is the sweetest guy around. He plays up being a scumb bag but that's actually the furthest from the truth. In the conversations I've had with him he's been straightforward with me. I asked him about doing a box opening to promote this channel. And he straight up said we could but they don't usually work. He could have just taken our money and done the video, but he was honest with us and told us the truth. The scumbag Rudy thing really is an honest to God act. And it's brilliant. I just wish more people realized it was an act and didn't get so wound up.
-Dave.
Yeah if you watch his channel, it's pretty clear the joke is he isn't trying to be scummy but that's what everyone wants to say, so he plays into it. I've never got the inclination that he's actually a bad person. Just just makes good calls and comes at tcg/ccg with a professional background and a unique show.
People just hate on him cuz they like to tell themselves that it's collectors faults vintage is ruined lol as if tcg/ccgs are not created for collects as well as players. Kinda petty and immature mentalities to me. The have not victim complex has alot to do with it too
@@Kavewolf1989 yeah I completely agree man. I don't own a lot of RL and I'm a broke ass motherfucker. But you're exactly right, the "Have-not victim mentality" spoiled whiny entitled brats who think they should just have anything they want in life without having to earn it.
The more you get to know Rudy or get a glimpse into who he really is the funnier the joke gets! 🤣
@@impolitemtg3225 hell yeah I've been watching him since he was telling people to buy Khans of tarkir boxes when they were selling for 90 dollars a box.
I think his funniest stunt was saying wizards finally gave him a preview card, and sat down and ate a taco 12 pack in silence instead xD what a mad lad
Flesh and Blood gets played a decent amount at my LGS. I've been thinking of buying the starter decks for my friends and I to play.
If you like games that just have each played comparing numbers for 45 minutes, then I highly recommend it.
@@Xoulrath_ Haven't tried it have you?
I could say the same for MTG and imagine a few vanilla creatures fighting but I'd be way off as well since that's hardly the tip of the MTG iceberg as we all know.
Flesh and Blood has more depth and decision to it than just comparing numbers just sayin.
(not trying to compare the two directly, they feel like different beasts to me and I like both games).
@@Xoulrath_ better play Magic which is entirely devoid of counting and number comparing
So, after having watched Rudy for a while and having watched his video of topic, I believe that the promo money design is to fund the the 3 distributors who FaB holds in high regard, to reinvest the capitol from the promos into becoming larger FaB distribution hubs. This helps with its ongoing distribution problems while bolstering its 3 early adopters.
And he doesn't have to worry about taxes all the same
I feel that as long as Rudy was honest about his intent with the Flesh and Blood creator, then it was his to do with what he could, like it or leave it.
I have no thoughts on this other than "Good for Rudy."
Now FaB content on this channel, that's exciting! Heck, maybe even have a pit fight with Olivia and all the usual commander players.
I have thought that Rudy was a shady character playing a shadier character for his vids. This just comes across as him selling a product in a market that he manipulates but ultimately I really don't care. I do not have any interest in Flesh and Blood or Rudy but if people are happy buying the cards... fine? My opinion of him is unchanged- his content is not for me.
Yeah, it sounds like they're aesthetic replacements of existing cards, or otherwise not tournament legal? In those cases, they're not necessary game pieces. Who cares that they're limited and/or collectible.
@@KingBobXVI They are not replacements of existing cards they are pretty much like promo sliver-bordered cards
But that's what's brilliant about this scheme. Even if he sold these cards for a million each, it has no effect on the gameplay whatsoever. His promo is useless as a game-piece other than being able to flex with a bunch of perfect graded unplayable cards as a meme deck. It just puts money into his pocket while getting some extra attention on the game. If this is where WOTC had taken their secret lair and universe beyond cards, no one would mind. Alternate collectible cards with no game use whatsoever is fine. Give the people who want to spend cash on something pretty to put on their wall and in their binder. Do not make cards that fundamentally alter the base game.
What this tells me is about FaB. It tells me, if you support this game, FaB will reward the guy who sold it to you.
I’ve watched many Rudy videos: the box opening intros going through his basement let’s you know he has been a millionaire for a while😂 If I could make millions and also own all those cards, boy would I. Rudy’s the man! I don’t have any interest in FAB though.
Its wild that videos like this get made after something becomes successful. Rudy has been a millionaire lol doing 1.5 every weekend haha Seriously though, Rudy believed in this game in 2019. He took a chance, put his own money at risk when many people did not including myself when he offered 1st edition Welcome to Wrath boxes for like $70 to his Patrons. Call him whatever you want but as a long time Patron the dude is genuine. At the end of the day, he is a nerd that came from a modest background, followed his dreams, built a business model out of it and is now sharing that dream with the public and anyone who took a chance with him is doing VERY WELL believe me! The American dream is the belief that anyone, regardless of where they were born or what class they were born into, can attain THEIR OWN VERSION of success in a society in which upward mobility is possible for everyone and there's NOTHING CRINGE about that.
The thing is Rudy plays the bag guy big time. He's also unapologetically an American dream buy low sell high kind of guy and has been, in his own words, since he was a boy.
He's also open about this, he's open he buys up and holds onto stuff to make more money and invest in it or in the case of alpha and power 9 stuff to hold on for the long term
“Business owner makes money”
What a shocking revelation.
"Business owner makes money due to special relationship with other business owner who could have extended this to customers instead." Still no surprise.
Another perspective is this stunt may bring more attention to the game, making potential new players aware of it for the first time. The downside is possibly attracting cardboard investors who just care about the $$$😬
It certainly brought my eyes to the game, and it confirmed that I want nothing to do with it.
@@daybreak817 As someone who just played FAB this entire weekend, declared to my Magic playgroup it's better than Magic, than watched this video had a meltdown, only to agree with PK on this topic, it's a fun game :D
@@daybreak817 Why? It’s fun! :D
@@daybreak817 - You should give it a try. The "it's for investors" meme is ridiculous and inaccurate. The "expensive collectibles" aspect only applies to first-edition prints, which are limited runs, but every set also has an Unlimited print edition. It's unfair and dishonest to point to first-edition, cold foil cards with high price points and declare "it's just for investors" when a cheap version of the same card exists in unlimited. It would be like saying Shivan Dragon is proof that Magic is unplayable because the Alpha card costs like, $2000.
Yeah but FAB is largely immune to a lot of the bullshit of MTG. Since there is a reprint of demand version of every set you can't price people out of cards. Sure they can buy first edition cards and sit on them, but you don't need first editions to play, so even if someone buys literally every first edition version of a rare weapon, that will not stop people from having an affordable alternative.
I've been a fan of Rudy since the good ol days of 2k subs. He was a millionaire long before he FaB was even a thought.
MTG/FaB isn't his primary investment, though he has millions of dollars in assets between both games.
His videos are great as he constantly tells you not to give into hype/fomo and to enjoy the game as it should be enjoyed with friends.
His buyouts are always with cards that are weird/already vastly out of reach for 90% Of the community.
10:00 actually his patron is closed so if you were out of it before the announcement you can't sign in for the card.
A solid point that I did not realise prior to the video. Thank you.
I'm a Patron of Rudy's and have been for years. I'm an MTG guy and have never purchased any FaB product. My opinion as far as the Gemkeeper promo, it is what it is. You don't have to buy if you don't want to. Not gonna lie though, if I was a SUPER WHALE, I probably would've bought one or 2 just for fun. He's doing updates on the value, and has already done a video on how they sold during the 24hr window. It was a HUGE bell curve. Apparently a lot of FaB whales were working together to see how many would sell and based their decisions on that. Most sold within the first hour, then about 1 an hour for the next 22 hours, and a HUGE uptick in the last hour of the sale. He didn't release updates on sold stock during those 24 hours, the only way to tell if it had been sold out is if you tried to purchase one and it was unavailable. But that never happened. He ended up selling about 1350, leaving about 200 left to burn. If I've learned anything in the last year, ANY product, single card or box that he gives a nod or a thumbs up to SKYROCKETS in price as soon as the video releases. So if there's any cards you want or need that you think have a probability of making it into one of his videos, BUY NOW AND DON'T WAIT. He has a dangerously high impact and influence on the MTG market, which is good and bad. I signed up to be a Patron years back because I really enjoyed his videos. But now, as of about 1.5 years ago, he stopped accepting patrons, so whoever was in was in, and only new patrons could get in if someone dropped out. I just wanted to support the guy and get cheap Standard boxes, but now it's like being in an exclusive club. He gets exclusive FaB and Metazoo product, and investors that can't get in are foaming at the mouth to get a patreon spot to have the access. If it were possible, I could probably sell my Patron spot for hundreds of dollars if not more. It's become insane. But I still like the guy and still support him, despite him not needing any help at all lol.
Honestly, the biggest thing regarding the FAB "It's a scam" thing that makes me laugh is that the cards being sold here aren't playable, as you pointed out. In contrast, magic has nonsense like the fetchland secret lair, or the reserve list in general, locking stables like the original duals away, restricting older formats. Whenever someone talks about the super crazy high prices in flesh and blood, I can't help but think of the cost of a playset of fetches even just a year ago, or the price of getting into legacy. Honestly, my experience with Flesh and Blood has been that it's generally fun, this seems like just a fun way of LSS giving Rudy a return on his investment in them, in a fun and relatively unique way. Maybe not the best move, but it's an interesting one, and does get more eyes on the game.
It doesn’t matter at the end of the day. The game gets in mouths, and the story gets shared. I think it was super clever to get this much attention with a non legal card.
I would have just liked to see them used a more of a give away tool for hype and such instead of another investment. Like when The Prof opened that huge MH2 booster box in the booster box game and gave away the two old border fetchlands to random supporters on his Patreon.
As a buyer of this product and a supporter of fab/content creator - I felt dirty buying this but also felt that i HAD TO because of LSSs support.
I feel dirty.
When I saw the video, I thought it was a great idea and was pissed I wasn’t a patron to buy it, soI could sell it later. The absurd way the FAB cards are revered by those who collect them can only really make this promo go up in value.
I love the people that comment “he was already a millionaire”. Guys watch the video for like a min. Remember kids. Watching the video explains the video.
Commented before watching and went off the thumbnail
@@orzhovmdw yeah don’t do that. Or like you can, but what’s the point?
@@thedarklordragnar5989 so I can get PleasantKenobi to comment "no shit! Watch the Video!" on it so I am able to reply yes Daddy....you don't get many opportunities to embody creepy Rudy.
@@orzhovmdw aye that’s fair. Direct responses from milk daddy are indeed rare.
Clearly they wanted the cards sold by Rudy otherwise they wouldn't have printed 1500 for him. I'd say that's a bit beyond personal use lol. As for shady basement taco Rudy, power to him. If I could make 1.5 mil tomorrow there isn't much I wouldn't do let alone just sell a few cards.
erm except they where printed 2 year ago as a thank you for supporting them when many others would not and refused to even stock a few boxes, while rudy ordered pallets and did free advertizement and videos and whatnot else for them. But you are correct bout one thing LSS wanted this to happen and worked with him on it. And MAN is it working. You cannot buy this kind of advertisement for 1.5 million, and it cost them some cardboard.
That's the thing, we are jealous of him doing so well for himself but for me more out of "damn I wish I had that drive and confidence and bravery" rather than " wah it's not fair, he's big meanie"
This was already done to a certain extent by a game from the early beginnings of the CCG craze. Galactic Empires developed the bug for promo card craziness. Originally intended to be an novel concept for a business card soon turned into a way to generate profit for the company. The buyers of these cards as they would of course sell them. And throw rich kid syndrome into the game mainly because these cards were legal to use in the game. Players of the game at the time saw this and complained, and it forced them to create an article in their house organ magazine to essentially defend the practice by what seemed like a "suck it up, buttercup" attitude. Obviously Galactic Empires is no longer, whether because of this, probably not - but who knows.
I’m happy for him. He deserves it he brings a lot of fun and fills a different niche than Prof or this channel or bad boy.
Just as a thought: many Magic players will say part of their motivation for playing is the return they can expect (or think they can expect) when they finally do stop and sell their cards. I think most of that is BS, honestly, but if Rudy's card is out there as a rare collectible so be sought after, wouldn't it help drive those kind of people who invest in a game to see returns on it? And in that case, it might add to the longevity of the game itself.
You forgot to mention that Rudy got this card because he believed in the game before it was popular. He could have sold it at the start for $20 or $50 a card back in 2019 when fab was nothing. But he believed in the game and held onto it. Now that it took off, he is able to offer this for way more money. Every single person had the same opportunity when welcome to wrath came out. If you believed in the game in 2019 you could have not boxes for $70, and sell them for $6000+. That is 100x your money. So yea he made 1.5million, but he could have easily lost a bunch too if fab never took off. As Rudy says, his biggest fear is never taking chances. It is easy to cry about others making money when they are the ones taking chances and people sit around doing nothing.
Truer words never spoken
I didn't forget to mention it, but the full details are important and I definitely skipped over it, I agree.
This is the caviot that brakes this whole discussion apart and turn it all into fluff. I am glad to see that it is being mentioned.
People don’t like when someone makes a lot of money.
The same people also sit on their ass and do nothing but whine and make videos like this lololol
I agree.
But some people don't take risks because they can't afford the price.
Oh, so he turned a meme into a dream. I can respect that.
When I saw his video advertising this sale to his patrons i was mind blown. I did not like it but at the same time I wanted to see how it would unfold.
I just hope Wizards does not get any ideas and starts selling even more expensive shit.
Image Reserve List cards (not tournament legal versions) in a fancy box for hundreds of dollars.
Wizards would probably just straight up trash the list.
Come on. You know this is gonna be a one time only historical piece.
"Image Reserve List cards (not tournament legal versions) in a fancy box for hundreds of dollars"
Umm... this is literally what I want though?
Seriously - an "OG Dual Lands" secret lair with 10 cards reprinted with new art and M15 frames for $1000. Let's go. It would lower the average price point of dual lands to $100 per land, which would significantly reduce the entry floor for formats like Legacy while providing commander players a way to get their singletons for less, all without tanking the value of even the Revised duals. Sell it at local game stores, and everyone wins.
@@KingBobXVI that'd do none of what you described. Legacy players won't want it cause not tournament legal. Commander players playing at sanctioned events won't want.
The only people who want it are going to be casual kitchen magic players and even then they're dumb for doing it. If it's a non legal card that's filling a spot for the legal one you can't afford its an overglorified proxy so just buy an actual proxy for a couple bucks and save yourself money and don't support wotc trying that scam
@@thebenis3219 they won’t
Yeah, I can't seem to separate F&B from Rudy and that continues to turn me off. That, and my local LGS can't get hold of any starter products.
When it comes to the optics - is this a large enough event to become a big part of what new players will experience when they look for more information about the game? Cause people who are watching Rudy should have an idea of the game so there's no surprise for them. I'm just curious if this will even leave a mark on FAB and their reach as they continue to grow. For example.. I had no idea this happened and not sure I would ever run into it unless I went looking for it.
Very interesting point; will this just fade into the anals of history, more obscure than Mana Crypt's origins in MTG, or will it become a well known and heavily discussed sticking point. Time will tell.
@@PleasantKenobi I'm interested to see now.. though will probably forget about it lol unless you are the taco man bring it up in the near future. Until then I'll just continue to scratch my beard and drink my milk as I enjoy your content.
@@PleasantKenobi I would suspect the former is the more likely; had you not made this video, I seriously doubt I would have ever heard about this in the first place, and the card in question being a deliberately unplayable joke makes it unlikely to be particularly memorable long term, except as a piece of obscure trivia. Mana Crypt it is not.
I honestly don’t mind Rudy that much. Sometimes he has interesting things to say, sometimes I just tune it out for background noise while I do something else. I am thankful that he’s talked about Flesh and Blood. Otherwise I too would be in the dark about it. Am I a bit frustrated about the financial structure of the game? Sure. It’s hard to get the expensive cards out of a booster box, but you use the Prof’s ideology about buying singles and you’re probably gonna be doing well quickly. To those saying the game is too expensive… bah humbug. If you’ll pay for multiple Mtg singles at $20 a pop, and not a single piece of equipment easily moved between decks.. I dunno what to tell you.
Rudy’s a turd and bad for the game. But if he wasn’t there would be a different Rudy so eh who cares.
Except that Timmy there, 3rd floor basement, has long been a seven-figure business entrepreneur.
I don’t have particular issue with Rudy, and I even watch a lot of his videos. The guy is a salesman, he’s pretty up front about it, and anyone with half a brain knows to take whatever he’s hyping up in the context that he’s going to directly benefit from it. The issue I have are all the people out there that take his word as some kind of gospel and see him as a role model. There’s a ton of people who can’t parse through his legitimate financial advise/opinions, his sales pitches or personally biased speeches, and the stuff he’s said purely for the entertainment value.
I'm a Rudy Patreon. Could not see any way this would be usable or desirable, so I skipped it and picked up a couple of cases of Standard instead. Nice breakdown Vince, well reasoned.
His business videos advices are really great tho.
"Rudy might already be a millionaire..." LOL
Lss giving the card is like giving stock in a company in lieu of payment...if the company does well, you make money...if it does not it is worthless.
Tbf it doesnt concern me. I am a patron of his and I didn't buy because it is not worth it to me. If people feel like it is, then more power to them. At least r7dy was honest with his motives for this
I am simple man. I see creepy Ruby, I click
I'm against evil investors, and against the reserve list(let the people play) but I love Rudy. He's funny and he wants to inform people so they don't make horrible financial decisions based on emotions. He's not always right, but he's fighting for the people by his own convictions.
I love that it's all just self-reporting on how many he sold how much they were worth etc. In my experience unless there's something to be gained from being so public most people with that kind of wealth don't feel any necessity to advertise it.
You mentioned people idolizing him because he is "making bank".
You do know that he gives out a LOT of info to help people with finances(not financial advice, because of liability) and has in fact helped many people make some serious money through the deals he offers through his Patreon?
Also, did you watch his follow up video on the subject?
He claims he is a capitalist, but at times he hints & acts as if he is more of a free market guy than an actual capitalist. Yes, there is a difference.
The whole situation sounds like a parody of the TCG speculation market.
It's the same people that bought tons of Monarch @500
I don’t ideologies Rudy, but I do think his information when he’s being serious, is priceless. If it weren’t for him I wouldn’t be doing TCG as my full time job. So, I honestly thank him for that. I wish I could thank him personally, honestly.
However, some things he says and does are quite questionable. But he’s not a scammer, he tells you exactly what he’s doing and exactly what you’re going to get. He’s a businessman through and through and that’s not bad.
My take is this: rudy used his capital to keep the game alive through the worst time to be a real life game. Once people can gather in mass like before, FaB can thrive. Rudy was just rewarded for what he did. Afaik the stupidly expensive FaB items are limited editions and unlimited editions are affordable so who cares.
If the game wasn't any good then it's a red flag but apparently people love playing it so that can't be a scam or pump and dump.
Don't understand how people think the game is a scam for investors when the "unlimited" boxes for every set are available, not counting a short waiting window post new release. The singles are cheap, the booster boxes are cheap, you don't need 3-4 copies of the "meta" cards, and even the the more expensive majestic/fabled cards aren't absolutely necessary to build strong decks. The primary investable aspect to the game thus far are the cold foils from the 1st edition boxes. How is that a scam?
Don’t forget how LSS seems to have printed more 1st edition tales and boxes are regularly available for under $125, bad for investors who preordered great for people buying in to play
@@cordanding2147 very true. Also, you hear many complaints about the flippers/short term investors pushing prices. It's a win/win for players and for the long term investors to buy in.
@@hcpwnography6157 I got burned ordering a couple boxes from CFB but since they are so cheap I have picked up another 4 just because
People can hate him all they want, but it’s a business move. It’s no different than MTG or Pokémon selling a limited item. Granted, it’s at a ridiculous cost, but that was the point, to see if people would buy it. Well apparently people are nuts and did so. It’s on the consumers that decide to purchase them. They didn’t have to, nobody forced them. Collecting or spending addictions aside, people with the money to buy those will do so no matter what anyone else says.
Personally, I found it very interesting since the whole idea of the market setting a price seems very arbitrary and random with new items, especially limited. Interested to see what happens with these once the hype of the event wears off
Hes really good at business and pretty funny if I wasn't a lesbian I'd totally be into him
I love Rudy. He's trolling the haters.
People have every reason to hate him. He has cultivated a market of investors selling to each other, fueled by FOMO and encouraging his simps to harass and bully anyone who questions him. How is that any different from multilevel marketing?
I for one find everything Rudy does hilarious so this whole promo situation was awesome to watch unfold
Edit: I too don’t think it really matters for FaB as a whole and I don’t even think it’ll be as big of a deal to the new players “on the fence” about joining the game. I don’t see why a non playable promo of a guy who supported the game at launch will make anyone turn away from the game, no matter how much the card goes for.
I thought the thumbnail was pretty click baity and all that. But I clicked and you just flat out honestly acknowledged it and explained why right off the bat. Lol that alone just redeems it all in an honest and transparent funny way and I quite think it's pretty refreshing , lol.
So, i'll be clicking on all your future click baity thumbnail videos and titles from here on out! haha. Thanks for being awesome :)
To some on the fringe of magic and TCGs as a whole. It just makes that game looks like "oh its just a gambling game." Its not about the game. Its about the meta monetary value of card.
It's definitely _an_ aspect, but it's not the only one. Especially when it comes to non-essential game pieces, or even just non-playable promo items like this.
The problem is people see FAB's first-edition card and box prices and decide it's only for investors, despite unlimited versions of the same products existing for cheap. MTG has its issues with card economy, but it would be unfair to call the game unplayable just because an Alpha print of Shivan Dragon is like $2000 or whatever. The same card exists in modern reprints for like, $0.20. Multiple groups of players and/or collectors are being catered to.
I’m gonna be honest and say that I actually see it played a lot at different stores in my area between casual pick up games and packed weekly events
To be fair hes not the only one that has done this . And I believe it's just people who want unique cards I personally know people who get unique cards that fully know some cards aren't playable but just want them because they want them. But I love that you are very fair in this video.
For the record, any time I've had any of those "flesh and blood feels like a fad or scam" thoughts independently the root always kinda stems from the push for the game I felt like came from this guy, like it was artificial and wouldn't have been a big deal were it not for this dude lowkey driving it for exactly this, and seeing this doesn't make me feel any less like this game is a scam.
Then don’t focus on him and on the actual game itself. The Calling Las Vegas proved that people will go to great lengths to play this game.
@@Skeeerttttt They don’t. If that was the case they wouldn’t support LGS’ or nerf Heroes before they could damage the meta (Chane). Rudy has supported this game for far longer than The Professor has, so it makes sense that he would be prioritized. And it’s not like The Professor is getting ignored given that he got a promo card.
@@Skeeerttttt WOTC is the one who cares about milking your wallets dry and then milking you some more.
@@Skeeerttttt Also I’m pretty sure that Rudy actually, you know, *likes Flesh and Blood as a game and wants it to succeed* otherwise he would’ve spend his money investing in MTG, which as a long established TCG is a better investment than risking losing your money by investing in a new TCG like FaB.
@@Skeeerttttt Doubling down like that doesn’t make you look smart, just saying. ;P
Edit: Lmao he deleted his own comments.
I'm on the "loath him" side of the fence. Investors artificially inflating the price of games I like to play can f&%! right off.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. MtG is a collectable card game. Always has been.
Smells like broke in here
Magic is not socialism.
@@tiedomi80 who said it was? Rudy has every right to create a market and make money.....and I have every right to think how he makes that money is scummy. The difference is that my personal freedom to call someone deplorable doesn't infringe on anyone else's freedoms. So yeah, screw Rudy and any other wannabe investors in the ccg market.
@@CJ-nd9ggwhy would I hate a game I like to play, instead of the person/company making it harder to play the game? Just say "it is what it is", instead to trying to sound cool about supporting those that make it more difficult for people to enjoy things.
Anyone that thinks Rudy is a scam is truly clueless in life and has never truly listened to him. Yes plays a character. However his channel is one of the best financially educational video you will find on the internet as he makes it fun to learn. He is always honest when he is biased about things.
Grow up people. You can climb out of your hole if you open your mind and try to learn something. His channel is a great start.
@Dwayne D Then you have zero knowledge of the financial world. He basically gives a light version of a series 7 certification.
@Dwayne D For arguments sake we will pretend you are on the level. Why in gods earth would you be arguing over something like this that simply doesn’t apply to you? It’s also not for poor young people either. 90% of people have zero idea how the financial system works and his segments talking about options and the like are a great resource.
If you had all this success and money, you’d actually know that. It makes anyone reading this see right though your internet tough guy know it all act. Enjoy your “millions”.
@Dwayne D th-cam.com/video/p5M1PeP52u4/w-d-xo.html Learn something Timmy
@Dwayne D Lol. No one that actually worked for their money would say this. So either a trust fund baby or just a story. Either way, you are sad. Assuming my personal status is hilarious, child.
"It doesn't matter if they are graded and in big cover."
*Plays Levia*
Well shit....
I was so worried the algorithm did me dirty when I saw Rudy's face.
I think you hit the nail on the head, it feels like a move that only clearly benefits one person: Rudy. Starting the price point at 1k vs. something more affordable for all of his patrons or just giving it away as a token to garner interest in the game itself would have been a more benevolent move. Honestly I’m a big fan of Rudy so it felt out of character IMO, but if the experiment works out and the card somehow gains value beyond the 1k price point there is benefit to those who bought in. My main worry is it will have the ripple effect of alienating those who haven’t yet given FAB a chance and make it appear even more inflated with speculation.
Actually it's going to make a ton of people talk about and discover Flesh and Blood who didn't before. It will attract investors too who actually DO help drive sales for TCGs and help make singles more available online for sale. Ultimately LSS needs to sell lots of cards and this will help, it's part of marketing FaB. Everyone commenting here is helping this video get more attention too, and is proof that the publicity stunt is working to the benefit of FaB. 😊👍
@@OwenCarver I hope you’re right! I’d love for this to draw positive attention to the game and new interest, we shall see.
Weird question - isn’t the font Rudy uses for his logo a copyrighted font? Now that it’s in a “commercial product,” can’t Wizards do something there?
I found this to be totally fair. I personally like Rudy and have learned so much about how to save money, not throw my money around and yeah, it’s alright to have this constructive criticism. Whatever, some people have really focused on investing in tcg‘s and most not. At the end of the conversation it doesn’t actually matter and it won’t affect the format. It’s all good, Rudy just has his marketing style and that’s fine. No worries and I’m looking forward to ‚The Calling ‚ in Utrecht!
I feel like Rudy has been secretly(or not so secretly) been working his ass off to keep FaB going both publicly and privately and this was the creators backdoor scheme to pay it forward so to speak. Either way good for Rudy for turning essentially a meme thank you into profit while continuing to garner attention for this game. I've always loved his content and this is just more comedy to have a chuckle about.
So, when's the next episode of Innuendo or Magic Card?
#soon
@@PleasantKenobi If Mudbutton Clanger isn't in there . . .
I totally agree that it doesn't matter. I almost bought one, but I chickened out.
What would you do if WOTC made a Pleasant Kenobi one of a kind card, and gave you the only 1500 copies?
Of course they would make it Silver Border, so it couldn't be played. 😃
I think these kinds of thing are awesome, so long as they're rare and not necessary to play the game.
I may or may not have donated quite a bit to Doctors Without Borders during the Good Luck High Five charity stream where two of the employee cards were up for grabs >_>
(Didn't get it, sadly)
The Post Malone unique Zur the Enchanter is a bit similar to that
The heroes cards from WOTC also have the persons name printed on them so people can't sell them anonymously.
Maybe the company should have directed the "payout" at the players. But, their decision to "payout" Rudy might have been better. It's just a question of marketing.
I think that can be a win win situation. Rudy using drama as an asset makes a lot of sense if you buy his narrative of retiring from internet soon and that kind of promotion would cost FnB some money. Looking at the right angle, Rudy has no risk on this and FaB is making a gamble. If this was Rudy's idea, it was a good one and he would have to be stupid for not taking it. He wasn't doing anything illegal and on that scenario, a lot of people can and should take the million.
If this blows up in the face of FaB makers, they had it coming for trying something cheap like that (appealing to internet's never ending thirst for drama). If this makes them a lot of money, good for them.
People getting mad at things that aren't anywhere they control is kinda stupid. Play the game or drop the game, and that's it. The extreme: voice your concerns to your legislator. Rudy isn't a candidate, we aren't voting on him for anything. All we can do is moving on while hoping game companies stop doing stupid shit (reserved list, promo of a promo of a promo, etc.) - playing their games or not.
For all purposes, feeding the drama/internet bs is the new "feed the troll". Don't agree with it? Don't like it? Stop talking about it. Don't recommend Rudy's video to all your friends so they can see how ridiculous it is - that was made Rudy famous and, again, kudos to him for reading the room.
Tl,dr: Stop giving attention the stuff you don't like/you want to see gone. Hate Rudy? Well, he is relevant because people that hate him engaged his content and advertised it in their social circles. You people are the ones that make Rudy rich(er), not us, the people that watch him for entertainment before moving on with our lives.
I think the only thing that matters is that Rudy took a big chance backing a project right out of the gate with a significant amount of capital that he risked losing entirely. If LSS wants to thank him for being the reason they were able to succeed how they did then who the fuck has the right to have an opinion on it.
Vince has never eaten a Taco Bell party pack of floppy tacos in his parent's basement while getting his stuck stepsister out of a washing machine and it shows.
I mean Rudy is the quintessential example of Haters gonna Hate. This dude has been around for years hell decades even. He knows people hate him, he knows his channel, (love or hate it) has influence in the market and to top all this off. He doesn't rise to the hate like many would expect. Instead he's fueled by it. Let's be real, if you're successful and ppl hate it. It means you're doing it right! Fuck it, keep it going Rudy! Congrats on the potential millionaire club. And ofc Vince is just like alot of us. Unless Rudy has sniped your buy or you play FaB. This video is more of a nod then anything else. Vince doesn't care and honestly I have to agree. I don't play this particular game, namely due to the priceyness of entry. At least I can play things like Vintage and Legacy but would I sell staples to get into THIS game? Fuck No!! Great vid Vince!!
When it's any game that is basically pay to play,then it's just about money. Why can't you just print out cards to play the game without paying a fortune??
Tbh, I clicked this video assuming it was Rudy's video. I honestly would have expected Rudy to meta-brag about much he made selling his promos.
There were other TH-cam channels promoting Flesh and Blood while it was struggling, and before Rudy started promoting it.
I believe they should have got the same treatment first, and I would be VERY interested to see if they get the same treatment in the future.
To keep things 'fair'.
Can you point to even one person that had the effect Rudy did? Honestly?
@@PleasantKenobi
In pure numbers, Rudy definitely had the largest effect.
But if you're talking Relative Growth of Audience, channels like Vault Games started promoting Flesh and Blood when they had zero market base. Smaller channels were doing card reveals, set reveals, gameplay videos and tutorials to promote Flesh and Blood up to a point where someone as big as Rudy would even bother to pick it up.
To discount smaller, loyal promoters and just skipping straight to giving Rudy 1500 custom cards feels very disingenuous to me.
I sincerely hope Flesh and Blood credit the smaller content creators that propped them up and helped them to get to where Rudy finally picked it up.
Honestly.
While I agree with your point in principle, the reality is none of those stores / channels could probably afford to pay LSS $16k to make this thing happen. Rudy got it because Rudy could afford it.
@@project_swift Never even heard of Vault Games. Thats not to knock whatever content they are doing, but im guessing they havent made much of an impact.
Also LSS has been supporting smaller creators and stores from the beginning, so you saying they skipped them is just straight up false.
@@garylynch6686
That is results oriented thinking, and using personal experiences over data.
That's like someone saying "I've never even heard of Rudy until Vince's video, they couldn't have had much of an impact..." or "The women at my workplace get paid the same, the gender pay gap must be a myth."
And the statement isn't false.
They have gone straight to Rudy with this promotion. This is the first promotion of this kind and they have skipped over smaller content creators who have supported them and built them up for the first two years of the game.
Yes, Flesh and Blood have been doing small bits to support smaller creators, but they've been doing the same small bits of support for larger creators. So they've still skipped over the small ones with this large promotion.
I suppose my big thought is just, I'm not exactly interested in buying into a game that is telegraphing they care more about collectors and speculators than players, I already have enough with magic, so with this game being so new and aiming in this direction, making these kinds of gestures, all it does is tell me to expect worse in the future, even if this particular piece isn't anywhere playable. If they keep this up, eventually they will have their own mana vault, their own nexus of fate, and I don't think I want to be there for it
What a piece of work what a great video man if rudy approves I approve
I think it was absurdly expensive for what it is, but I think it's absolutely finebecause it's effectively an FoB Un-set Secret Lair and entirely non-essential.
I used to hate the exclusivity of mtg cards. Just because I had no money, why couldn’t I have nice things. As I recently bought a strixhaven foil Japanese alt art demonic tutor, I guess I’ve become more flexible on it, but I still feel there is a big difference between what should be a piece of cardboard, with other exclusive pieces of art, or like a god damn Ferrari.
Having said that, what really gets me, what I absolutely cannot abide by, is the fomo bullshit. I’ll buy an item for twice the price if I can save up and buy it later, but the get it now and it’s never going to be reprinted is a scummy practice of the highest order. Which is why I’ve never bought a secret lair, and probably never will. If secret lairs were available all year round, but where print to order, that would be perfect, instead of the artificial scarcity that wotc employ.
This story is no different. Haven’t played fab, sure it’s great, hearing about this doesn’t make me want to play it any more or less, but it certainly loses some respect.
Well they're not game pieces, and from what I understood he's had them for a while and has been sitting on them.
They really only affect collectors anyway, so it's not like secret lairs...
@@josepedroguimaraes9887 not exactly. But there are still parallels to be made. And anyone who uses fomo (which Rudy did) deserves a special place in hell.
@@deanofcool on that my friend, we agree 100%. I too believe he belongs in the fiery pits.
Perspective: If a street artist can shred his artwork after selling at auction, the Taco Gnome can do this. Rudy sold 1500 wild rides.
I think optics do matter, and I don't think this is the best look for FAB. I don't mind Rudy making money or stiring the pot, but yeah it really does not help the the perception that much of the games value is built on speculation. It's a fun game and this probably won't have any material effect on many save for Rudy making his money but I also can't imagine people looking back on this and thinking yeah that was good for the game.
The other non-playable promo (go bananas) was given for free aparently.
My point is, LSS gave these things as a token of gratitude, and then they're someone else's property.
What they do with them afterwards shouldn't really impact FAB imo.
@@josepedroguimaraes9887 The Go Bananas promo was not necessarily free. I think its mainly been for events but i also remember it being offered as a buy a case promo here and there.
If WOTC employees can’t sell the promo they are given they can just trade them. Don’t think wotc could go after them for that because that would then require them to completely acknowledge the secondary market
I get that people don't like the investing world getting into their cardboard hobby, but those people are living in the past. Conversely, those people probably like having the ability to sell their card collections for lots of money, and you can't have it both ways. It's not Rudy's responsibility to pander to people who are badmouthing him because they're unhappy. We shouldn't be attacking Rudy over Flesh and Blood when he's the reason it got popular. We should be criticizing the people who keep saying Flesh and Blood is a scam. They're the ones damaging the game. Flesh and Blood isn't a scam, their live event and all the attention the game is getting are proof of this. Rudy was likely the main reason the game got so much success in the first place, and if the company wants to reward him with promos, it's their right to. Showing loyalty despite 'mainstream' optics not favoring Rudy just makes me like the FaB company and developers even more. If Rudy wants to sell the promo cards to people, then that's also his right, and if his patrons want to take a risk on it, then it's their to assume that risk. Note that Rudy has been correct many times when predicting long-term market collectible trends. His actions suggest that at the very least he believes that the card will appreciate in value, especially after he engineered the spectacle of the sale, and then later him burning the rest and framing the ashes. I think the guy is heavily misunderstood, and a lot of the hatred of him has to do with the anger that people in the world feel right now because of the crushing cost of living, and the horrible way the rich get to play by different rules. They see Rudy as a part of that, which I don't really think is fair when he's offering products at a discount, buying collections for good money as a trusted buyer, and offering really good financial advice to people.
Vince, come the calling Cincinnati. I think you'll be a full throated adopter if you go. This game is wonderful.
Awesome, people are talking about it. Rudy is a genius, and the Timmys got trigger'd. Its a good day to be alive.
The promo card at 4:02 👌
While it's possible he's sold all them, I kind of doubt he has.
And if he has, I guess I just don't care.
I enjoy Rudy for the most part. He's pretty honest about how things work and his video on income inequality was amazing imo.
Of course he broke character and was serious (mostly) for that one.
He's basically selling a novelty that doesn't matter as far as the game is concerned. As you say the card is unplayable. It's an Un-Card.
I'd find it just as hard to get worked up if say WotC gave Prof an Un-Card of himself (assuming he wasn't blacklisted, but it works for the analogy) and he sold them to people.
At the end of the day, that's what this is.
Ahhh, opening a shop in Jacksonville and then deciding to not even open it to the public just to milk his channel guy! watched him for awhile back in the day but caught the drift that he just uses everyone around him for his own purposes. All sorts of yuck and Jacksonville doesnt need any more of it.
@Dwayne D you buy that excuse even though he's making millions? Phew. Good luck.
Rudy's patreon is full, people are selling patreon spots on secondary market.
Rudy is definitely been in the FaB thing for a while once I knew he was showing. It he was in it for him. Smart tho
Rudy has probaly about 20m USD in revised duals alone.
Rudy invests in TCG’s, promotes and sells TCG products and provides HIS market insight on TCG’s. He uses TH-cam to do all the above exceptionally well.
Is anyone surprised Legend Story Studios chose Rudy as the avenue to release these limited edition cards when he’s been their biggest and best promoter on TH-cam? This might be hard for some of you to hear, but he earned it.
erm rudy had these cards for ages, they where a thank you for promoting the game when nobody knew it and taking a risk. He kept them and was thinking about what to do with them for a long time. So he came up with this crazy publicity stunt. Promoting the game even more.
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Rudy has been a millionaire for a long time
just like warhammer there are no players who expect a return on their investment. this is their hobby they just want to get 80% on their investment to play or slightly less after they are done playing
I’m not sure if I should feel sad that someone bought these or even worse because they will likely go to the moon.
*"Hans, get ze IRS!"*
Causal people have no idea who Rudy is. Maybe this keeps the hardcore Magic people away, but then again, aren't they just looking for a reason to stay away anyways? There's no harm in this.