Its bcs the M26 Pershing was still very new to germans, Since german tank crews never actually seen a pershing before,they thought it was a newly produced tank by germany,probably bcs the crew didnt see the star emblem on the side
0:36 interestingly enough, the widely believed reason why the panther didn't shoot is because the crew, having never seen a pershing before, though it might have been a German tank when they saw it from a distance away. Its large size and the shape confused the German crew because it didn't look like any allied tank they had ever seen.
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The Pershing in the famous Cologne tank duel was a regular M26 Pershing (T26E3 to be specific), not a SuperPershing (T26E4). I know you said "a different variant of T26 was operating", but that still implies it was a SuperPershing. Better to clear that up, since the T26E4 with its add-on armour and the much more potent gun is quite a different beast compared to the regular M26.
my guess is that the Panther crew didnt properly ID the pershing tank as an US tank. If you look straight at the front the pershing is somewhat similar to the tiger
Although I'm sure the story is confirmed to be true it's so odd, the German crew knew they where alone, they where facing pretty much where the Pershing came through and yet once they saw it they didn't fire on it as they thought it was German? In the later war period? Bad crew imo
Two questions: 1st- If it doesn't penetrate and stop the door, wouldn't the detonation of the APHE explosive add penetration or damage to the crew carrying out their role? The projectile simply doesn't detonate. 2nd- The penetration of the expanded armor should detonate the APHE charge, since there was a penetration greater than 14mm, which is the calibrated armor for German APHE ammunition to explode.
Belton Cooper, who wrote an excellent book on Allied armor in Europe, wrote about what one of the Super Pershings, upgunned with a fare more powerful 90mm gun, could do to a Panther. He witnessed a Super Pershing firing at a knocked out Panther in the field. From a distance of 1500m, fired at the front glacis of the Panther, the 90mm shell went all the way through the Panther, front to back, and buried itself several feet in a hill behind it.
It is possible to simulate the explosion of a chamber charge in an armor-piercing projectile. To what extent does the detonation of a chamber charge affect the behind-the-armor impact?
likely sending more shrapnel in, overall likely not much change. maybe some shrapnel could ignite the ready rack ammo on the other side of the turret if the breech does not block it
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The "wings" where 38.1 mm thick just like the pices for the frontal hull armor. The 80mm taken from the panther was the armor that is placed on the mantlet also could you do the return fire if possible ?
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Hello, Simulation Plus, could you do a simulation of DM73 apfsds against an armor (15mm titanium+15mm rubber+15mm titanium+15mm boron carbide) x14 layers
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Yeah the panther didn’t shoot the super Pershing… because it wasn’t a super Pershing it was either a Pershing or a jumbo Pershing I can’t remember exactly what one
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OMG this plate has never 80mm . The Super Persh could hardly elevate that big gun and now you put another 80mm plate on the mantlet ? And the Panther had 138mm at 30° penetration, this would go clean through even with the 80mm plate .
Hi simulation plus, I am doing something similar to what you. Would it be possible for you to share you email address so that I can contact you need some help, which I am unable to find online
warthunder: *crew turns yellow*
HIT*
Gunner unconscious!! 😂
Hahahaha 😂 not funny actually:😢
HIT
I still think its bs war thunder got the Panther G at 5.3 and the Vk 30 02 M at 5.0 but all variants of the T26 are 6.7😂
The reason the Panther didn’t shoot is because the crew thought it looked like a German tank
"If not sherman, its german"
German probably.
@@Leindesky Yes,It appeared as the war was nearing its end.
Its bcs the M26 Pershing was still very new to germans, Since german tank crews never actually seen a pershing before,they thought it was a newly produced tank by germany,probably bcs the crew didnt see the star emblem on the side
Hes right 😂
@@Leindeskyand americans were like if not a sherman, it's a tiger 😅
"Enough to cut you in half" That crew took it personally.
0:36 interestingly enough, the widely believed reason why the panther didn't shoot is because the crew, having never seen a pershing before, though it might have been a German tank when they saw it from a distance away. Its large size and the shape confused the German crew because it didn't look like any allied tank they had ever seen.
Bro, don't go to cap A, it's pure chaos😅
That side of the map is a meatgrinder
Fr not to mention that one TD grinding everyone passing through the road
the alleyway of death calls to us. It is especially useful when using artillery in that one corner where everyone seems to pass
Advance to the rhine map🔥🔥 we're rushing to the A point with this one🔥
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You mean the "Side" of the A point
@@myreactiontothatinformatio6344 we don't talk about the horrors of _that_ side of the A point
War thunder Map?
Yup
*A point flashback*
Advance to the rhine
attack the D point
@@PotniMuzikNEVER!
1 cool fact: the add on armour of the super Pershing is the armour of a destroyed panther
"This just in, side armor is weak"
All jokes aside this was certainly interesting.
The Pershing in the famous Cologne tank duel was a regular M26 Pershing (T26E3 to be specific), not a SuperPershing (T26E4). I know you said "a different variant of T26 was operating", but that still implies it was a SuperPershing.
Better to clear that up, since the T26E4 with its add-on armour and the much more potent gun is quite a different beast compared to the regular M26.
my guess is that the Panther crew didnt properly ID the pershing tank as an US tank. If you look straight at the front the pershing is somewhat similar to the tiger
It was confirmed the panther crew thought they were looking at a german tank hence they did not fire.
That's part of the design stupid Germ
Although I'm sure the story is confirmed to be true it's so odd, the German crew knew they where alone, they where facing pretty much where the Pershing came through and yet once they saw it they didn't fire on it as they thought it was German? In the later war period? Bad crew imo
@jonowens460 sorry bud I don't understand?
Would the shell still explode? Further accelerating the spall from the turret?
Two questions:
1st- If it doesn't penetrate and stop the door, wouldn't the detonation of the APHE explosive add penetration or damage to the crew carrying out their role? The projectile simply doesn't detonate.
2nd- The penetration of the expanded armor should detonate the APHE charge, since there was a penetration greater than 14mm, which is the calibrated armor for German APHE ammunition to explode.
the explosion is with a delay so it explode 1 meter after the impact
wasn't it a regular pershing?
bro thought he could make the video interesting by adding the word "super" 😭🙏
tell me you didnt listen to the video without telling me
@@ariaki2tell me you know nothing about tanks without telling me you know nothing about tanks
@@omega97hyper24 are you stupid? The pershing in the cologne duel was a regular m26, hence my comment
looks like you are the ones that didnt watch the video
Belton Cooper, who wrote an excellent book on Allied armor in Europe, wrote about what one of the Super Pershings, upgunned with a fare more powerful 90mm gun, could do to a Panther. He witnessed a Super Pershing firing at a knocked out Panther in the field. From a distance of 1500m, fired at the front glacis of the Panther, the 90mm shell went all the way through the Panther, front to back, and buried itself several feet in a hill behind it.
I find it odd that most of you simulation dudes posted on the same day. SY, Simbros, and XYZ.
Battle of the Simulators
It is possible to simulate the explosion of a chamber charge in an armor-piercing projectile. To what extent does the detonation of a chamber charge affect the behind-the-armor impact?
likely sending more shrapnel in, overall likely not much change. maybe some shrapnel could ignite the ready rack ammo on the other side of the turret if the breech does not block it
"That one bounced."
We advancing to the Rhine with this one!
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Wow, what a cool channel, you produce content very professionally🔥👌🏽
Attack the D point🔥❗
I think those side addon plates are only 38mm thick. It is only the addon plate on the mantlet itself is 80mm.
The "wings" where 38.1 mm thick just like the pices for the frontal hull armor. The 80mm taken from the panther was the armor that is placed on the mantlet also could you do the return fire if possible ?
The gun likely wouldn't be able to elevate with the shell staying there.
Ah, yes. Advance to the Rhine point A.
Or as I like to call it, the absolute anal thunderdome.
Great effort on modelling it though!
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Advance to the rhine alleyways are hell
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Apparently you can see the shells coming towards you, more so with HE than AP.
Почему взыватель не срабатывает даже тогда когда снаряд застревает в броне? 🤔
В чем причина ?
If tons of shrapnel wasnt enough just know that there is still 30 grams of explosive waiting to release its anger issues
Me:oh a video of a simulation
Me again:wait this is familiar....
Me:Its RHEINLAND
How did u get the war thunder map bodel here?!
Hello, Simulation Plus, could you do a simulation of DM73 apfsds against an armor (15mm titanium+15mm rubber+15mm titanium+15mm boron carbide) x14 layers
What app is this armor test app
This shell have any explosives interior?
Thsj is one of the places where the explosive filler helps a lot
Hello, a question, what is the name of the software that makes the simulation? There are any free or paid options online?
The reason the Panther didnt fire at the T26 was because the crew never saw one before and thought it was one of theirs.
What animation did you use?
This animation was made from scratch.
Dude, it wasn't a Super Pershing. It was just a regular Pershing.
Enough to blow ammo?
I thought I was going to hear JENOVA once the video started.
fun fact: advance to the rhine is literally cologne
Advance to the Rhine in a nutshell
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Can you please do The Hulk VS M1 Abrams🙏🙏
the speed is a bit wrong , shouldn't it be 930?
Why does the grenate not explode
Hold up am I tripping or was the pershing just a regular one? Not a super
Can you show it at actual speed too?
The pershing at Cologne Cathedral wasn't a super pershing.
uh hello? the panther didn't have pzgr 39 rounds, it had pzgr 39/42 shells, which could slice through 190 mm of armour.
also the pzgr 39 round could penetrate 145 mm of armor compared to pzgr 39/42's 190 mm penetration
Yeah the panther didn’t shoot the super Pershing… because it wasn’t a super Pershing it was either a Pershing or a jumbo Pershing I can’t remember exactly what one
ATTACK THE A POINT !!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
No way an actual D point moment?! 🗣️🗣️ (It's actually A)
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he got his revenge
I'll rate this sim 1concussion/6
OMG this plate has never 80mm . The Super Persh could hardly elevate that big gun and now you put another 80mm plate on the mantlet ? And the Panther had 138mm at 30° penetration, this would go clean through even with the 80mm plate .
Rhineland from war thunder 💀
Attack the D point
It was a regular M26 Pershing not a super pershing
He knows.
war thunder: HIT
It was not a super perishing in the cologne fight
He knows.
The p-anther tank had a crap crew....
Bro go to cap A, no no no
If its not ugly, its german.
Click bait video, no truth at all in this story, it was a regular pershing.
The added amor on the superpershing was approx. 40 mm.
War thunder map
pen or not?
No, u can ser shell speed in that coloured "scheme", no pen but lots of scharpnel in the turret
Partial penetration i think
nice usage of war thunder for your simulation in ulq . also using bullshit simulations that dont follow physics
Hi simulation plus, I am doing something similar to what you. Would it be possible for you to share you email address so that I can contact you need some help, which I am unable to find online
Maybe the magnetic field can somehow affect the penetration 🤔 It is interesting to look at such a simulation🥸
War thunder map