China's Top Gun Knock Off Did NOT Impress the Nationalists!
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The J-20 "Mighty Dragon" was originally produced as a single-seat fighter, but China has recently started producing two-seat versions, allowing a Weapons Systems Officer (WSO) to reduce the pilot's workload. This indicates that China's avionics, weapons systems and munitions may not be nearly as capable as America's 5th Gen fighters.
Wow really? And ocean is wet and the sky is blue!
damn
A WSO is pretty useful for massed air-to-air fights. The biggest use though, is in the Air-to-Ground role, for lasing targets or spying other stuff to shoot with the sensor ball, leaving the pilot to worry about flying the plane and defensive maneuvering. I'll guess the 2-seat will be strike versions, just like how the Su-27 developed into the Su-34 Strike craft, and the Su-35.
That is not the main reason. The second pilot is also supposed to be used with drones. Also, avionics is not an issue, their is a reason 6th gen aircraft are going to be two seaters, one pilot, especially with drones operations, is not enough.
The J-20a and J-20b are designed for a different purpose than the J-20s two seater.
@@voidtempering8700 I guess that's why all the drawings for Tempest, NGAD, FA-XX and FCAS depict single-seat, 6th Gen fighters? The whole point of "Loyal Wingman", is that the UCAVs will have so much AI, they will act semi-independently, with minimal human direction. Every mention of Loyal Wingman is also accompanied by "AI" and "autonomous".
The free country of Taiwan and the free world stands against the evil ccp
Well said.
One day West Taiwan will be reabsorbed into the ancient country of Taiwan.
Fun fact, some Chinese airframes have their cannons canted *downward* instead of upward like most other aircraft to aid with strafing ground targets. Thus, Chinese pilots are in fact Bottom Gun.
Please stop Kink shaming.
Being a bottom is great
Snicker😜
@@arrielradja5522at least you don’t have erectile dysfunction like Chinese planes
Ok, that is actually funny!✌🏼
Tom Cruise is a crazy Scientologist and we look past it because we love his dedication to his films.
I don't. I never and will never watch or support his films out of principle. Guy might be extremely good at his craft, but there are somethings you cannot overlook.
@TigerValley62 cool man. But the catholic church is actively doing worse by shielding abusers from prosecutors and you probably still love the Kennedys. I don't attribute a person's faith with their moral compassion. Even scientologists who've left say the system works (therapy with a lie detector si you can lie to yourself). But the politics and hierarchy of the church is the problem...
@@tigervalley62 People cant have personal lives anymore?
@@savage7882 not scientologists or those who interact with them.
@@EchoLog Okay whatever you say bud.
I heard of the CCP Top Gun a few days ago, but seeing it I can see why they didn't release it. It's embarrassing.
Nme
if you're getting ice crystals on you INSIDE your jet...That means thats a horrible jet. you shouldn't be getting frozen inside of the jet.
Right? Imagine being up over the clouds, you'd probably die loool.
@@spandextampon2274 It means theres a serious leak in the jet and you're 100% gonna die from the -10c+ temp. there's a reason that planes are pressurized...its so you don't freeze to death and can breathe.
Test engineer: How you doing in there?
Pilot: I'm frozen stiff, my balls shrunked to mung bean size and my dick has frostbite.
Test engineer: EGGScellent!😄😁😅
Option A: The cold/heat tests within the plot of Born to Fly are, as they appear, genuine (if dangerously stupid) tests.
Option B: The cold/heat tests happen as part of a (dangerously stupid) disciplinary/punitive measure against the test pilots.
Option C: The cold/heat tests do not occur within the actual plot of Born to Fly but are a dream sequence experienced by the main character designed to illustrate the mental stress of his job through metaphor.
Option C might actually be an interesting creative choice, so it is, sadly, the unlikeliest to be the case.
@@tintinismybelgian Option D: they couldn't find a way to properly seal the jet so they just let the pilot burn and freeze.
I love the continual focus on the Chinese Aircraft Carrier. The J-20 doesnt even go on any of these. Or the JK-2000 AWACS they keep showing too. NONE of these are meant for Carrier Ops, which is a byproduct of the competition with Top Gun. Top Gun is specifically a US Navy program. I wouldn't be surprised if the PLAN and PLAAF competed with each other and had infighting behind the scenes.
China's military is similar to Russia...
@@cooldudecs No, it’s not. We overestimated Russia and we are underestimating China.
I would a say we underestimated Russia, Russia is know for flooding the battle field with shit equipment and man power. China is know for getting fucked up by everyone and everything.
I think they're working on a naval J20
@@SneakyVito I’m not a China bot, I’m just not frickin dense.
The Vader meme was total fire. Keep on doing what you guys do!
I just took thermodynamics at university. It's very obvious the people who made this movie don't understand basic thermodynamic concepts. The pilot in the plane would die before the plane starts to fail. Our bodies are mostly water, water evaporates before rubber and metals melt.
They were trying to get data how much their pilot's balls shrink in correlation to various freezing temperatures. Very important. 😅🤣😂
Maybe, that is assuming a uniform temperature in all areas.
A lot of movies love to ignore physics though, especially inertia.
Option A: The cold/heat tests within the plot of Born to Fly are, as they appear, genuine (if dangerously stupid) tests.
Option B: The cold/heat tests happen as part of a disciplinary/punitive measure against the test pilots (also dangerously stupid).
Option C: The cold/heat tests do not occur within the actual plot of Born to Fly but are a dream sequence experienced by the main character designed to illustrate the mental stress of his job through metaphor.
Option C might actually be an interesting creative choice, so it is, sadly, the unlikeliest to be the case.
I just took basic thermodynamics Im now an internet expert. 🤓
*Mongolia pulls out an old map*
Mongolia : "Ohh Russia~ China~ Looks like we own you."
I'm also pretty sure that between a Chinese jet that's probably poorly made and a big reconnaissance plane, it's basically like an car brake checking truck, if the missiles dont blow up that jet is going straight down and the big plane kinda limps away.
Italy rummaging through roman history real hard
"MYditerranean"
@@EchoLog The Romans called it Mare Nostrum - our sea!
@@trojanthedog Easy there Ramses
Pulls out ww2 map "China mainland is Japanese province "
What happens if I pull out a map of Pangaea? Do I become the Supreme Ruler of the World?
The RC-135 Rivet Joint, is a Signal Intelligence (SIGINT) reconnaissance aircraft, that basically can detect and locate any electro magnetic (EM) emissions (radio, radar, microwave, etc.) within its path. It can give commanders an idea of which signals need to be blocked, jammed or scrambled in a potential conflict (Electronic Warfare) , and the location of all long range and missile targeting radars in an area.
Sure but why the name rivet joint?
From Maj. Brian Shul's book Sled Driver.
Commander: Shul take the bird very, very close to the enemy's coast.
Shul: Sir, what if the enemy lights us up with their fire control radars? (gulp)
Commander: That's great! Then we'll know the latest frequencies they are using. Good suggestion Shul. 😄😁😆
@@andersandersen6295 a computer probably spat the name out. Certain projects are given random names so that on paper our enemies cannot discern what they are. So back when this ELINT aircraft was being developed, if Russia saw the project, it would just say "rivet joint" ... which obviously leaves you scratching your head. It's basically a code name
@@moonasha most likely it's because it can catch a return off a single rivet joint.
Thank you for explaining that. The knuckleheads in the video have no idea how high tech the rivet joint is.
Born to Fly? More like Born to Lie.
Born to fly for an hour then the Chinese engine blows up
You guys need another channel that just critiques chinese movies.
It was great starting 2023 with such a belly laugh. Cheers🤣👍🏻
During my 19 years in China, I was an extra in Chinese TV and film many times (just for fun). And the Chinese film people struck me as shockingly ignorant of a lot of things and always tended to resort to outdated stereotypes of the uninformed. So it's very likely they simply didn't know that you don't bake a fighter jet with a person inside it! On the other hand, China (of all countries) may indeed do something that, considering their abysmal human rights record. The Great Helmsman even managed to shock Stalin and the Soviets with his reckless boasting, "Go ahead, drop an atom bomb on China! We have lots of people to spare!" (This was per Mao's personal doctor who witnessed the exchange.)
What I read he said was that a nuclear war would be a catastrophe and wipe out two thirds of the world's population, but the upside would be that socialism would prevail. He didn't explain why, considering it didn't the first time civilization emerged from the stone age.
Back in the early 90's McDonnell Douglas sent tool makers to Shanghai Aviation, 2 of the jig builders were asked to perform in a Chinese movie as "American" gangsters. They worked for 1 day and got paid nothing. (but they did meet a lot of girls)
worth it! hahaha
That's great, sounds like fun.
Bruh wtf xD .. but yeah worth it..
Only meet them or 'interact' with them?
"Bro we just want to build MD-80/90s here..." 🤣
From what I've seen in the trailer footage, the CGI wasn't as terrible as pretty much everything else, and at face value, I could have seen this movie doing pretty well over there even if it still had some easily-noticeable crap.
What blows my mind is that they threw the project out because it wasn't good enough, as if the rest of their stuff is any better. Maverick is probably my favorite movie of all time now, and this has nothing on it, but this was ONE TIME where I can say they put in effort, and yet they threw it all away. You have to actually experiment and innovate at home if you want to get better, and they seem to hate doing that, which is so contrarian to Chinese work ethic....
Autocracies ultimately play not to win, but to not lose -- they live in constant fear of changes they can't predict because any one of them could be political. "New China" is especially cautious as their own self-made issues (aging, debt, pollution, etc) continues to narrow the Party's options to maintain its unchallengeable rule.
@@doujinflip That's actually a really good way to put it. I see people here saying we gotta artificially control the population and I'm like "So you wanna do what China does? Make everyone have kids, then kill them all later?" You just gotta let people do things, man (within moral confines of course)
The CGI models for the planes are actually pretty good, it’s the atrocious animation that makes it so bad
Nothing says government corruption than kiboshing a multi-billion dollar movie because it didn't look better than a multi-million dollar movie 😂
They never have ever changed graphic quality for two dacades.
“It’s the planes blood.” Too funny 😂
Winston is always composed, hardly laughs but he lost control today LOL
I'm sick of these Chinese pilots provoking war. Then they will blame "foreign aggressors"
That frog scene is absolutely brilliant. Its freaking hilarious and probably not unrealistic 😆 I love it
honestly if It was in a u.s film its the kinda scene to be anyalzed in film schools
lol after seeing that i want to watch this movie now.
it's like if you see little spot of shit on toilet, you would like to pee on it to flush out. No different treatment for those frog. I know the film purposely got those two guys.
@@jestawell lmao facts. The comedic timing and cut to it is actually really good, something you'd see in a stupid 2000s romcom
Like I won't lie if I was just peeing in the woods and I saw a random frog within range I might very well piss on it.
So China made a Chinese Hot Shots if any of you remember the old Top Gun parody
Topper Harley and his motorcycle stunts. The scene inside the indian tipi. Landing/crashing what's left of his plane.😅🤣😂
I wonder whatever happened to spoof films?
Ha! Love it!
And Top Secret too...
@@DonVigaDeFierro They evolved into things like Scary Movie, Meet the Spartans, The Starving Game, etc.
Not saying that these movies are bad, they're just not as funny to me anymore.
Man, I can never get over the sheer enthusiasm in the faces of those people waving the chinese flag and singing national songs. They don't look like they are forcibly there at all. Not one bit.
Chinese have perpetual inferior complex thus China copies from others and claims it is their's.
The flag waving enthusiastic people are copied from North Korea, but North Koreans can do it better with real enthusiastic facial expression.
Wat
Can't tell if this is sarcasm, but I don't know one relative that likes the CCP or Xijing Ping, even my grandparents
@@tacticolidiocy sarcasm brother
@@purplemonkeydishwasher9360 ah mks
Chinese knockoffs rarely impress.
As an American I'm upset we don't have a recon plane named The Eagle.
We have something better--the F-15 McDonnell Douglas Eagle fighter jet. It's one of the most famous and respected jet fighters in history and has scored over 100 aerial kills, with absolutely no losses (ironically, most of the kills were by the IAF, not the USAF).
@@theprogressivecynic2407Don't forget when two F15s nearly wiped out the entire military of Bilya and rescued a POW.
If I remember correctly, it was mentioned that the director of the movie watched Top Gun Maverick and was so stunned by how well it was compared to his own movie that he personally ordered it to be terminated as he knew it would be a ginormous flop.
Damn it must have really sucked because Maverick was pretty cringe tbh
@@spencerstevens2175 yup cringed so hard watching top gun maverick
@@spencerstevens2175 Y’all have shit taste
@@spencerstevens2175 I'm with ya. The CGI was great but the story feel like Star Wars: A New Hope, which was also copied for the making of The Force Awaken.
@@AlexSDU bunch of people watched that same TH-cam video. I never noticed the simularity (which is honestly not that close) until I saw people talking about it after hearing somebody, I think a TH-camr, compare the two.
3:38 If *The Queen's Ghost* came out and said she owns everything on her map, everyone *had BETTER* give it up to her.
😬😳😳😳
You have to consider jet wash as well when two jet aircraft maneuver close to each other.
To be fair the original “Top Gun” was soft propaganda as well, there was a huge spike in recruitment after its release.
As blueprints for successful soft propaganda movies, “Top Gun” is pretty good IP to … borrow
Yeah but its a tasteful film, a good film, and a film classic. Sure its propaganda but it was the cold war anyway
@@savage7882 true. “Top Gun” was doing what Hollywood does well. Top Gun was also top production value. If money was spent on baiju and cigarettes it didn’t effect production value.
Don't forget the hilarious Hot Shots!
Top Gun was really a one-of-a-kind movie. It spawned several clones from the same decade, and none of them received the same recognition or were anywhere as good (Iron Eagle, anyone?).
Capitalism at its ACTUAL finest.
The Rivet Joint is an impressive aircraft with advanced capabilities
Very true: but SIGINT doesn't blow stuff up (directly), so it's little known. Just as well, considering its work...
Top Gong: Mao-vrick
Q: How does every Chinese joke start? A: By looking over your shoulder.
The upcoming parody movie - Hot Chows!: The Dumplings Zone 😅
Actually, in the 90s, an American company that makes urinal deodorant inserts tried decorating some with printed flies on them. They found them to be more sanitary because guys aimed at the flies. Instinctual male aggression?
I seen another video saying that Tom Cruise refused to take the Taiwan flag off of his original top gun jacket so as a result tencent pulled out of the project and China declined to show the film in China. They made this as a counter film lol.
I read that they ended up cgi the Taiwan out and replaced it with a Chinese flag so it could be released in china.
I laughed so hard I nearly peed my frog! Well done guys.
Leave the poor frog alone
I'm pretty sure that frog was pissed that the guy pissed on it, that not even a snake nor myself would eat it.
This just reminded me… I haven't seen Maverick… watched the original many times as a kid when it came out. I think I need to go and get watching now! Also in the clips shown, did they really portray a Chinese fighter taking out an F-35? The level of integrated systems and tech in the F-35 let alone the years of study and practice and wars fought with an Air Force make the chances of some rudimentary Chinese domestic product taking one out as near fantasy.
Something must have gone so horribly wrong if they can manage to close the distance against the F35, which would be a fever dream for the Chinese, but would be very hard to do as Americans have been training for worst case scenarios.
@@triadwarfare yep. Like the raptor training. They put the pilot in a dogfight scenario where it eliminates all the advantages a raptor has. Furthermore the enemy is on their 6 and they have little time to react and tell them to fight their way out. They always train the Rookies in the hardest way possible so when a real fight comes up they will know what to do easily
In addition, the J 20 doesn't have gun, so a dogfight with the F 35 is already lost before begin.
"Flop Gun"...hilarious! :-)
Lol, aircraft temperature stress test with pilot inside 😂😂😂
Top Gun: Maverick would NEVER get made in China, because its main premise is that the US Navy's most advanced fighter, the Lockheed F-35C, doesn't work if GPS signals are being jammed. GPS is nice to have, but all modern combat jets are designed to work in electronic warfare environments.
Leaving aside the fact that Maverick's strike mission would have probably been better handled by cruise missiles, the movie comes up with a BS reason to use Super Hornets, instead of "Fat Amy" (F-35). The real reason the movie uses Super Hornets, is that the F-35 doesn't have a two-seat version, that Tom Cruise could pretend to be flying on film, while actually sitting in the back seat. None of the cast could have been filmed in flying F-35s IRL, so instead we got F/A-18E/F Super Hornets.
The needs of the movie, meant that people were given the wrong impression that the 5th Gen F-35C, was somehow less capable for a strike mission, in contested airspace, than 4.5 Gen Super Hornets. I doubt China would ever allow a film to claim the J-10 or J-16, was better than the J-20.
The thing is, the J-20 isn't meant for ground attack missions, unlike the F-35. It would make sense for the J-10 to do it.
What was even more puzzling was the random use of single seat F/A-18s. Even though twin-seat models were also used in the film. That basically existed for plot purposes, so Tom Cuise could also lase his own targets. Even though using a WSO would have clearly made more sense.
Also it convientely allowed him and Goose's son, to pair up in the old F-14. After they both got shot down, in their random single seat F-18s.
you can relax guys, the RC-135 is based on the C-135 series of military transports and airborne tankers, which in turn, based on the 707 airliner, which is, indeed, a Boeing product
The 707 is based on the 135, not the other way around
@@-Jason-L - after reading your comment, I did a little bit of digging…
turns out Boeing’s model 367 prototype was the basis for both the C-135 and the 707, and were developed jointly by the company…
They need to do the directors cut, where all the Chinese pilots are trained by ex UK, US and Australian fighter pilots 🤣
Didnt these ex pilots turn out to be doing espionage?
Back in 2001, some of my CHINESE student had a joke about that incident. The pilots name was Wong Wei - that's what they said, Wong Wei went the Wong Wei. They were University students. I was told the pilot died, I thought it was in bad taste.
It is in bad taste, and pretty funny too.
There was a Wan King at the winter olympics one time. Its funny because Wan means king, so the name was 'king king'. I did spend a good deal of time wondering about the rest of the family, Fu, Li, Tsu, Ban, Lah, Piyu, Xa, Ma, Po, etc.
how is it in bad taste? the dude flew obviously in the wrong way.
If they put Darth Vader in there, I will watch it, would love to see how they do against tie fighters.
If China is using the tie fighters and they are winning, somehow Darth Vader will still be an American. Somehow.
The pissing-on-the-frog scene seems to be a good metaphor for how the PRC treats nature in general.
Damn, we need a whole series on bad Chinese movies reviews/overviews 😂.
Parodies like Hot Shots! 1 & 2.
coming soon to your local theaters:
Born to FRY, Hunt for the Red Chinese orchestra, Tales from Dr. Ping's Massage Parlor and the Last Chance Whorehouse. 😄😁😅
they would have to review ALL the chinese movies then
If you had a gash over your eye (Not sure how unless your harness came unbuckled and you hit the panel) and you were pulling 3-7 G's in maneuvers the entire cockpit would be covered in blood, It would literally look like a bloodbath. It would be much worse than they depicted
Poor guy, trying to have a snack in-flight and he didn't realize his jar of cherry preserves would burst at high altitude in an unpressurized cabin.
They really used Darth Vader's breathing sounds. 😅
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I havent forgotten C C P made a video propaganda using a MIG 29 and doing a Cobra manuver to show how skilled the C C P / P L A A
but it turns out the MIG 29 is actually an RC Plane 🤣🤣🤣
China just woke up one day and decided to propagate the terrible asian driver stereotype but this time in the skies.
The Chinese do not have a blood splatter expert.
Looked more like a bird strike to both of them. The other pilot must have just retracted his blood spattered visor , so his face was clean. The other guy obviously didn't have his visor down and got birdstrike to the face. Maybe a goose.
No one can beat US in film making. Top Gun used real planes and the actors sat in the plane. They rented the planes for like $160,000 per hr. I don't think any countries can compete with US in filming or Animation. Just look at all the software that are available for film makers in US. No comparison here.
1:45. Please feel free to just re-label that the “West Philippine Sea”.
110 million Filipinos already do.
Not a real country
@@malleuscalgary come to the Philippines and tell us that, let's see what happens
@@Delta-2-0 i'm not afraid of a bunch of 1.68 manlets with lil pp that needed help from the USA to liberate themselves from Spain.
@@malleuscalgary bring it, no matter how tall you are your head can roll off.
@@malleuscalgary also the US didn't help us with spain, we were already winning when they came.
China: the 9 dash line from this old map proves the South China Sea is ours.
Britain: the 9 billion dash line from this old map proves planet earth is ours.
As an Asian (I was gonna say Chinese but the place I am actually Hong Konger, I'm not sure which one to tell), I think it's already impressive that they can make a movie about the air force with ok CGI, but it's not that impressive when it's a knock off.
Just say Hong Konger.
This movie is fart spray
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24:53 Didnt know that Serpentza knows Naomi "SexyCyborg" Wu, will have to watch the Stay Awesome documentary.
It's great!
Lots of wild and talented people
I also liked their conquering China documentaries
She's "heavy". Both sides.😄😆😅
TopGun 2 featured a "theoretical" hyper-sonic bomber and their ripoff just featured a shitty "stealth" fighter made with stolen patents. You can't make this stuff up.
When I heard Vader's breathing, immediately I thought in my mind:
"Unbelievable."
Are you quoting MST3K’s reaction to the human phone noise in Monster a Go Go? If so, hats off to you, sir.
Unfortunately I am not, I have no idea who that is. But I'll give a try to seeing this, MST3K.
Have a good day or night, sir.
Ciao.
How can China get soft power so wrong, while South Korea gets it so right? 😂
China’s J-11 looks like an exact copy of Russia’s Su-27. And it almost is-but it’s nowhere near as reliable or capable. Beijing received seventy-six Su-27 fighters from Moscow in 1992 to replace their aging Soviet-supplied fighters. They were liked so much that China negotiated a deal with Russia which meant up to two-hundred licensed copies of the Su-27 could be manufactured in China using Russian-supplied kits.
Fast forward to 2003, and Chinese copies of the Su-27-the Shenyang J-11-were being built, possibly without Russian consent. It is possible that these airframes were reverse-engineered copies not covered by the earlier licensing agreement.
The Shenyang J-15 is an unlicensed copy of an Su-33 prototype, sold to China by Ukraine along with a derelict aircraft carrier, which became the Liaoning. Since this was not the fully developed Su-33, China's J-15 has had many problems. Chinese netizens started calling the J-15 the "Flopping Fish", due to it high accident rate.
The Shenyang J-16 is a copy of the Sukhoi Su-30. It's unknown whether China acquired the rights to build this clone.
China bought 24 Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets from Russia worth $2.5 billion, but problems were found in 15 planes of the planes delivered, leaving only 9 operational jets. Russia had resisted selling China the Su-35, fearing the PLAAF would just clone more illegal copies, but Russia's need for cash became too great. Judging by the quality of the aircraft shipped, China may not want to copy these.
The problem with today's Russian fighters is corruption. Every defense contractor and Russian Air Force General is trying to skim a bit of the budgets for these programs. Too many corners get cut, and everything is made on the cheap. The Soviet Union had stricter controls for its weapons manufacturing, but today's Russia is a full kleptocracy, where everyone is trying to enrich themselves. This can be seen in Ukraine, where Russia's once mighty army is unable to field enough tanks, or access spare parts. Many tanks, munitions and spares that should have been in Russia's inventory, were sold off by officers and ministers.
Wait a minute...the scene where they fly past the flag with the shock cone around the fighter as it passes is ripped straight from Yukikaze.
So did they film a PLA "playing with the boys" volley ball scene hahahaha
CCPedos:
*"DO YOU WANT ME TO HELP YOU?"*
😂
Even though Top Gun Maverick wasn't officially released in China, I get the feeling the Chinese people still watched it because of piracy.
So, when they see Born to Fly, they are going to feel...what's the right word...
Upgraded Su27?
Repainted, more like... 🤭
The original were airframes ordered from the Soviet Union, along with licensing. That said, the current J-11s are an overhauled varient. They use different avionics and engines.
if they tried to copy "danger zone' it would just confuse people. would it be refering to eating the food, walking in the vicinity of a tofu dreg sky scraper, or sleeping in your own bed durring a rain storm?
China: You Can’t pass by here!
US : do something about it
We need some kind of show like Siskel & Ebert back then but instead called C-Milk & Winston. And totally dedicated to modern Chinese movies.
Loool, heating and freezing WITH a pilot inside?!? That's like having a pilot standing beside their plane in a wind tunnel for aerodynamics testing (trying to stay upright against 1000+ mile per hour winds).. makes no sense!
The problem is more than getting close will cause collision. By creeping close, the possibility of the jet wash (jet exhaust and wake) finding its way into the intake of the larger jet could cause problems with the operation of the big jet engines.
If I remember correctly there are actually some cold/heat tests that require the pilot to be inside the aircraft during the test. However their safety is obviously priority, they would not be covered in icicles XD. Billie Flynn (RCAF retired) was a test pilot for F-35 and actually has a story where his canopy was temporarily frozen shut because they were testing the aircraft in -40 celsius to make sure all the electronics and engines functioned properly (source: Fighter Pilot Podcast, Episode 121, "Whats Up With The F-35?")
Option A: The cold/heat tests within the plot of Born to Fly are, as they appear, genuine (if dangerously stupid) tests.
Option B: The cold/heat tests happen as part of a disciplinary/punitive measure against the test pilots (also dangerously stupid).
Option C: The cold/heat tests do not occur within the actual plot of Born to Fly but are a dream sequence experienced by the main character designed to illustrate the mental stress of his job through metaphor.
Option C might actually be an interesting creative choice, so it is, sadly, the unlikeliest to be the case.
I think we all lost it when the kid peed on the frog, but it was nice to see you guys laugh like that for one 😀
If anything, the scene where they show the plane being cooked and frozen actually shows how shit these airplanes at insulating their cockpit.
Wow, this makes "Hot Shots!" Look like a serious movie.
Love ya boys keep the vids coming please 🙏 you caught me slipping when you said "bottom gun" 😃
That's the REAL blood of the substandard actors that were killed, right before these guys were appointed to play the roles...
16:55 This could have been the result of a bird strike. The pilots were either flying a JL-8 trainer or a J-11. If it was the J-11, the story would have been, "We need the J-20, because the J-11 keeps getting taken out by seagulls!"
Bold claim like this can only be enforced with military might, China is trying real hard, but other than illegally building islands with military installation and provocation like these are all they can do, they can talk all they want but technically they have no right to that vast area of sea, which overlaps with dozens of economic zones of other nations.
3:38 Let's say old maps DO mean some owner can reclaim a specific territory. It would belong to the old China. The one the CCP destroyed. It would also cause some very interesting problems to several European countries that no longer exist and since split in several other countries.
The U.S. would still belong to England too…😂
@@denysecoop7356 Most of it would belong to France thought.
Wow those Chinese people look REALLY enthusiastic waving those flags. 🤣🤣🤣
D-does the PLAAF occasionally just cook one of their pilots and then freeze him to eat later?
no, don't give it a Chef's or French kiss, give it a Glasgow kiss! XD
The frog 🐸 was pissed on, and the frog 🐸 was pissed off!
You know the saying, better to be pissed off than to be pissed on. Welp I guess the Frog chose the Latter haha.
"They don't have a PLAN!" - the best phrase yet!
This is what inferiority complex does to a country
I've seen cheesy Japanese movies dubbed into English better than that movie. They completely forgot to mix the audio so there's no SFX, no Foley, just completely silent except for the disembodied voices with the wrong emotional inflection.
Hong Kong film in old days dubbed better. I don't see any integrity on their work for this film.
China definitely uses the 80's version of the top gun film as the main reference material, the 80's top gun is dominated by fighter jets vs fighter jets, while the 2022 version of the top gun is dominated by fighter jets vs anti-aircraft missiles vs fighter jets and sharp maneuvers, basically the latest version much more complex, Chinese filmmakers must have been shocked by the huge difference between the two versions of Top Gun Maverick, this must have kept them from showing the film and if communist officials wanted film production to continue, it would have taken years, + China is too used to making propaganda films of sacrifice without there is hope of survival with the story of the main character being killed along with the enemy, a combat unit that lost more than 90% of people
they are so embarrassing
Teaching children to pee when and where while whistling, that's brilliant. And peeing on the frog is a dude thing. God bless the Chinese people.
I miss the original Chinese nationalists.
Today's Chinese nationalists are an embarrassment.
I love the pleasantly surprised "Huh?" when he sees the frog and the opportunity ..
Hmmm. Regarding the 4th/5th gen thing, it appears that internally within the Chinese Military Aviation industry, our (read: the rest of the world) 5th gen is classified as their 4th gen, and our 4th and 3rd gen are classified as their 3rd gen.
If your jet is impacting a snowbank hard enough to do 16:25, your jet is fucked. I think even the layman would understand that.
That was a 5G frog.
In china they don't make A movies, they don't make B movies, they make C movies.
old map ??
another chinese lie.
even in their 1930 Marine Atlas these islands are not even mentioned.
They claim it and the arguement is they ruled the sea from West Han dynasty according a map(what map?). There can't be a map designed at that anceint time. China didn't have map until late Yuan dynasty and that's gone. Only ealiest thing left is Ming. But then they some time come up with lies Qing era map as a Song era's map. Fake archaeology with fake artifacts.
11:50 they stole Darth Vaders breathing sound😂
It really sound like you dubbed the movie, it is really weird! Yet thinking about it you could have done a better job of it! 😂 Happy New Year 2023 and best wishes of health, success and peace to your family and yourselves!!! 🎉
🤣🤣 it's the planes blood🤣🤣
It’s the plane’s blood. 😂😂😂
When CCP pulls out the old map, the UK should say, well then, we'll have Hong Kong back...
All this Top Gun talk has forced me to reinstall Ace Combat 7 on my PS4 vanilla. Still looks better that this !