But people keep getting the quote "og battle passes exclusivity won't be effected by this change" out of context. The quote was said in the context of battle pass cosmetics returning to the item shop. Epic also stated that the cosmetics are only available within their season, we are literally going to revisit every season. I'm not saying that we are 100% gonna get them but there is a chance. The whole "old battle pass cosmetics won't come to the item shop" statement doesn't hold any value in this instant
There are companies that have brought back limited time offers. I think they can, they most likely won’t, but they can if they want to bring them back. I really want them to bring them back but it wouldn’t kill me for them not to, I just am really tired of people acting like they are better than others because they have Peely or something.
Exactly like them flexing that they got Renegade when they are living in their mom's basement eating 10 big mac's and arguing like 8 year olds like dude start a family my guy
do you realize these skins would become irrevelant the second they come back because they wont be rare anymore and they are not really special looking, this is maybe the dumbest idea ive ever heard, why do you want a billion dollar company to get an easy payday off of little kids
@@ajc2435 because I want to wear these skins. They are special compared to newer items. It really comes down to options there. Many of the newer cosmetics are too complex compared to the older ones. Why would I wear a skin like Peely Bone when the original looks better in every way?
I don't really care if they bring battle passes back but I think allowing players to finish their passes from chapter 1 that they had ALREADY bought would be the most they could do
Yep, I agree, I have the Chapter 2 Battle Pass but could never finish that one because I wasn't playing as much. Having the chance to complete that one this time would be nice, especially considering I paid for it.
From the stream yeasterday, I think the biggest problem is that epic _refuses_ to give a yes/no, or even acknowledge the issue. The vaugueness of this topic is really frustrating, and both sides seem to sling mud at the other side at any opportunity. In my humble opinion, the info from last night has no definitive closure on the loophole problem, and im starting to worry that this is a similar misunderstanding to the "Nitro minigun" from the ch5s3 trailer that was just a normal wrap. I feel like any and all info on the loophole should be taken with a grain of salt (my arguments included), and wait for epic to say _anything_. We cant really do much other than speculate until then
Look if battle passes return I think epic will have to acknowledge somethings Hope they don’t gaslight us But or I’m doing is providing facts not baseless statements
This still doesn't solve the mystery of the "OffersCatalogue" folder in the item shop's code. Why add the old Battle Pass key art to that folder? Maybe they're planning for the far future? This ruling isn't permanent. Thay can change their minds at any time. I'll wait as long as it takes.
The reason I didn’t address the offers catalog is that I’ve already covered it in a previous video. Epic can’t simply change their stance without offering compensation or restitution. The so-called legal loophole some people mention is simply incorrect, and I’m confident Epic wouldn’t pursue that path. Additionally, the main Battle Royale season is currently Season 32, and Chapter 1, Season 1 will not be the main season. Since this cosmetic item was part of a limited-time offer, once it’s gone, it cannot return-even within the same season if you want to argue it even is . same with paradigm epic given OG styles is acknowledgment epic cares for prior exclusivity. Battle Pass cosmetics were marketed as exclusive. If Epic decides to bring them back, they’d need to handle it carefully-with some groveling and providing compensation or restitution. Without that, they risk the FTC stepping in again for round two. Some argue that the user-end agreement gives Epic the power to do whatever they want, but that’s not accurate. Remember, this clause was in place when the FTC fined them a billion dollars for deceptive practices.
The people arguing that they were never advised as exclusive are just stupid. They were always advised as exclusive, but the issue is that they shouldn’t be exclusive. Nothing in this game should be exclusive to a certain time. Have them exclusive to those who put in the hours to grind out the passes, sure, but having them limited time is wrong. With things in real life that are exclusive, there is a way to get them even after they stop production, like reprinted cartridges or unofficial reprints of records, but with Fortnite cosmetics, there is no way to get them without breaking TOS and buying an account. I know that people want exclusive cosmetics and that they made a deal with Epic but in a preservation sense, there will be a time where there is nobody playing the game that originally got these cosmetics. There will be accounts running around with these exclusive cosmetics but they will only be played by people who didn’t get them originally. If the game wants to be a metaverse where people can be who they want, then they should allow players to express themselves in any way they want.
@@key2shawn154 ya wanna know why they started to make things exclusive, money. Sure there were exclusive things before but they blew up in popularity as soon as Epic decided to create the battle pass
The fact that we already have have returned to the OG island to but to a specific SEASON GIVE ME HOPE OLD BATTLEPASSES WILL BE AVEILABLE TO PURCHASE AGAIN
W video! I think everyone's jumping to conclusions a bit too fast on this though, as I think this just means they aren't going to come back through the shop (like people were saying you could buy bundles of battlepass items in the shop, etc) I still think they can let you buy it in the battlepass section and it'll act like a regular pass.
@@distraityt it is literally advertised as exclusive but this community has made up this theory when epic mentioned bp exclusivity everywhere they sold it
The copium of people trying to find ways for it to be back is crazy. Yes I want old battlepasses back to finish seasons 3 and 4. However it can’t. An I’m fine with this.
@@Therapist_Demoman Yes there is. Leakers have been saying that Epic, in the files, has been touching some old BP images that havent been interacted with since they were first in use. For example, Firemonkey, last month, said, "Epic Games has been moving a LOT of old images into a new folder called "Offer Catalog"..." Also, Epic seems to be caring less and less about of exclusivity as of recently. For example, they are starting to (or planning on) sell old starterpacks (Albeit not necessarily exclusive but its still intresting) as well as those like console exclusives that they sell that are bundles with a console for fortnite. Theres more but those are the big ones (To me atleast). If you want more I reccomend watching "Fortnite COULD Return Old Battle Passes" by SaiKenshin45.
@@BlkBornSeed new OG not old OG look at peely look at Midas look at Jules they have never returned they only have alternate skins the OG skin never returns
They should bring those back, at least some of the cosmetics even if it were at a more premium price. It will bring them money and that's all they want.
Look, all Epic needs to do is acknowledge prior exclusivity and offer compensation if they decide to bring the passes back. not what ever the community is going on about lies and deceit...
I started back in chapter 1 season 4, and I bought the battle pass thinking it was a one time thing and wouldn't return. I think it should stay that way, but if they are going to return, then I feel that the players that owned the battle passes back then should have some sort of compensation. Or maybe, they could do something special with the skins, like add special styles for the OG players. But that's just my opinion :)
100% At this point, I’m amused by the mental gymnastics and blatant lies. People would be happy for a billion-dollar company to do whatever it takes just to get cosmetics they don’t even care about. Look, all Epic needs to do is acknowledge prior exclusivity and offer compensation if they decide to bring the passes back. although adding OG styles would be a lot of work for someone to do when they could be doing something else.
The rule post is old. So there is hope. The rule post was done when they were talking about future battlepasses. But there is hope for the old battlepasses files
@@Dunkinarts what you mean limited time means limited time The wording is leading people to presume there’s a loophole which I don’t think really exists It’s a lot of gymnastics to make it work
@@HeWhoFinesses yes I said the video BUT that would it’s deceptive. And a misrepresentation and miss sale I won’t be surprise if they get another call from the FTC or any other countries financial regulator ready to send them another freaking fine to add to the half billion they are already paying.
@ not really “deceptive” it’s morally and ethically right to do that especially since majority of ogs like myself want this to happen. Exclusivity is dead and fomo doesn’t work like it used to be.
Don’t know why all these current Fortnite players going so crazy over chapter 1 battle passes 😂😂 the skins aren’t even that good fr, they’re just nostalgia.
They are way better than the garbage epic releases now. I don't even feel the need to spend vbucks anymore. The new skins are trash. I was lucky enough to play back then and get the skins but some of my friends weren't. Oh well I guess they will just have to buy accounts to get good looking skins right?😮💨
or just accept the fact that they don’t have the skins at all and it ain’t the end of the world 😂 it’s a game and more skins are made every single day regardless whether they’re trash or not, I promise u your friends will be okay.
@cfromgrapeseed1924 I guess they could wait until chapter 1 item shop cosmetics come back. There were some gems there as well. I just hope epic releases a good battle pass or a good new skin. The only thing I've spent my vbucks from save the world on in the last 4ish months are gifts.
People are saying 'BP items are exclusive to the Battle Pass and can't be sold on the Item Shop', that is true, HOWEVER, Epic never said those items could not return as an ACTUAL entire Battle Pass to be grinded AGAIN. Especially when now we have the perfect excuse to bring back old Battle Passes with the OG mode being permanent.
although epic also pushed a environment of unlocking before the end of season so i think that is suggested.. and I've look through a load of old stuff at this point again the agreement that the season is returning is the flimsiest..
I mean, the battle pass can essentially be free, you know? And I mean, it's not right for a billion-dollar company to lie. The idea that Epic can do whatever they want is hilarious, especially considering they were hit with one of the biggest fines just a year ago. for deceptive dark patterns
@RICEGUM you fell off ever since leaving Faze Clan but seriously your 30, living in your mother's basement eating big mac's and arguing like an 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy 💀
OK as an og I find this ridiculous that they still are going through exclusive rules I did not get everything back then and I'd love a chance to get what I could not get from season 2 and 3 personaly I hate exclusivity and I think even if you where not an og you should get a chance to get these items like we did back then with all epics rules now and og permanently upcoming they have a perfect marketing opportunity to bring them back I rest my case.
What’s fair isn’t always what’s right. These items were sold as limited-time and exclusive, and people bought into a gam, a game that could have died just two weeks later. Anyway, the video is more focused on the argument that "Epic can do whatever they want"-which is hilarious, especially considering they faced one of the biggest fines just a year ago. Epic has to acknowledge exclusivity and offer compensation and restitution if they decide to bring these items back. and not follow the opinions of lies deceit and cheat.
@MrJayOWhy If they are to return the only way they can make it work is if its sold as its battle pass but in its dedicated seasons. Epic have said this themselves battle passes can only be sold within there seasons obviously with ogs return they are aloud to come back. Epic are even making it so you can not sue them for such actions and with the promotional material in that folder its likely they could still return for season 2 onwards. yes they would be lieing to millions if they did it any other way but let's not forget most people don't really care about exclusivity anymore. Most of us me to where fairly young when we first played and now that we have matured its just cosmetics. To us I'd like them to come back not to flex or show of or any of that childish stuff we did back then and I'm sure others will agree who want them back its the fact they are just good skins and also some of the gear they come with would look great on other skins presets extra for other items we own. With everything else now not being exclusive such as starter packs and recently platform exclusives they are most likely planning battle passes to not everyone agrees to them returning for there own reasons but epic is a company at the end of the day they have a perfect marketing opportunity here which would work well for the majority of people and hey it would make them money that's what a company cares about.
@@killumnati You have to remember that if they break their word to the OG's what happens if they make another game in the future and nobody trusts their words again? The Og passes are the people who supported the game very early on, they helped it, blow it so if they just mislead people then nobody will ever trust them again to do this with another game down the line.
@@FlipflopMount222 Yeah you do have a fair point but aye its epics choice if they return until there is an official announcement stating og battle passes will not return or that they shall I guess we just gotta wait and see. Until then we are all going to still continue debating the next steps but I'm sure you can agree that whatever they decide we still get to play og permanently so we can be grateful for that at least.
and chapter but old battle passes can only drop in their own season they literally gave away sparkle specialist to boogie down winners in chapter 1 season 3 or 4
At this point, I’m amused by the mental gymnastics and blatant lies. People would be happy for a billion-dollar company to do whatever it takes just to get cosmetics they don’t even care about. Look, all Epic needs to do is acknowledge prior exclusivity and offer compensation if they decide to bring the passes back. but they are exclusive so ggs is they never return..
@@Callmemelski Dude, maybe they were too young before. How is it their fault that they missed out on Dark Vader and Spider-Man if their parents didn’t allow them? This is why old battle passes need to come back. Also, some people didn’t get stuff like all the Omega lights or all the gold skins in Chapter 2 Season 2.
@@RoxlnnBR Okay? Suck it up if you were too young to play the game and didn't even have an idea. How is that our problem the new players are just entitled if you didn't have it for this long it doesn't matter if you have it now.
I don't own ch1 bp but i think they shouldn't come back because they were advertised as exclusive because then that would be considered as unfair business practices by a company to sell their products
At this point the decision is up to Epic. If they do, they do. If they don’t, they don’t. Would be cool to finish my Omega lights though, (you can think I don’t have Omega but I say I do because I really do) that’d be cool.
and that's cool although epic has to be transparent acknowlegde prior exclusivity and doing something for original supports of this game without them would 've full in to obscurity
If you go by the non-exclusive passes, where no items are guaranteed to return to the shop after 18+ months, the wording clearly states that there is no guarantee a Battle Pass item will ever come to the shop once this change goes into effect. So, individual items could be released... or maybe never, who knows, right? This could end up being very expensive, especially for Battle Passes that were sold as limited-time exclusives if they that was to CHANGE 💀.
@@MrJayOWhyGatekeeper who only wants take the L to himself like dude your 30, living in your mother's basement eating 10 big mac's and arguing like an 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.
See I though they would come back but it’s basically confirmed they won’t because at the end of the day the whole world could want them back but it would be like back stabbing and losing to being back exclusives just because people couldn’t buy it so I understand
for me Epic can’t simply change its stance without offering compensation or restitution. My position is that Epic should acknowledge prior exclusivity and the limited-time nature of the offer, rather than allowing everyone to try to construct a loophole so epic doesn't acknowledge is so odd
At this point, I'm just more bewildered by the idea that Epic can do whatever they want and manipulate any loopholes. they see. i would hope, that if Epic were to bring old passes back removing exclusivity , they would acknowledge the exclusivity, NOT LIE ABOUT IT and apologize for ever creating it, and offer compensation-at least in some form.
@MrJayOWhy Yep it's me THE REAPER, but for real it's mainly because with most of the stuff Epic does with newer skins look pretty damn good. Especially 1 ball, Rosette Tigress and a few other remade skins. A lot of the textures of newly designed skins pop out so much more and they look like actual kevlar, metal, or whatever material you have in the real world. I know most of these examples are reskins but they do put work in the newer skins nowadays. Not to hate on the older design which I still enjoy and wear I honestly would be pretty cool to see most of these skins get a style that restores and updates the skin regardless if there coming out or not.
Idk why newgens think they getting old battlepases they literally gave an ITEM SHOP skin an edits style and removed it why would they give you a battlepass 💀
yes when skins accidently return some use it as full to throw exclusivity in the bin BUT yeah for me paradigm actually shows how difficult it would be if they needs to give OG styles epic is acknowledge that by given the og styles
Yeah ik Klarque Clint Gaming got paid 6 figures by epic games to make a video about this and now it happened thanks Klarque Clint Gaming for ruining the fun like dude your 30, still lives In your mom's basement and arguing like a 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.
Epic should start making good skins again tho so people that didn't play back then can earn some decent looking cosmetics. I was lucky enough to play back then and get the skins but some of my friends weren't and their only option is to either wait for skins like raptor raven etc to return in the shop or just straight up buy accounts.
But is it not even the main BR season and you could argue chapter 6 season1 would be season 32 or 33 I’m amused by the mental gymnastics and blatant lies. People would be happy for a billion-dollar company to do the season return is the flimsiest argument ever .. not the same season, engine or even year also they were sold as limited time so once they leave that is the limited time regardless of seasons
@@MrJayOWhy Spot on. I think these people are holding onto hope, but I also blame the clickbaiters who obviously stirred this up and got the hopes of lots of kids up for views and likes. I just think the writings on the wall, but they are living on "loophole" that aren't really there.
Yeah still don't care if epic wanted the battle pass to be exclusively or not but besides ch6 is the last chapter and season 1 is the last one and that s it after season 1 the next one is going back to ch2 where im in heaven in fortnite but me never died but in fortnite he s already dead
@@goldenninja9053 sorry but sometimes I would have crappy and goofy ahh grammar and I'm saying that because this is my last season or a chapter cuz the next one I will might playing ch2 s2 with project reboot ok
But people keep getting the quote "og battle passes exclusivity won't be effected by this change" out of context. The quote was said in the context of battle pass cosmetics returning to the item shop.
Epic also stated that the cosmetics are only available within their season, we are literally going to revisit every season. I'm not saying that we are 100% gonna get them but there is a chance.
The whole "old battle pass cosmetics won't come to the item shop" statement doesn't hold any value in this instant
EXACTLY!!!!
I agree. TH-camrs and leakers need to stop spreading misinformation for headlines
We will know for sure in December.
@Al99NextGeneration agreed
Stop giving me hope bro
There are companies that have brought back limited time offers. I think they can, they most likely won’t, but they can if they want to bring them back. I really want them to bring them back but it wouldn’t kill me for them not to, I just am really tired of people acting like they are better than others because they have Peely or something.
Every new battle pass is by itself a limited time offer. But they will come back after 18 months. Old ones were exclusive limited time offers.
Exactly like them flexing that they got Renegade when they are living in their mom's basement eating 10 big mac's and arguing like 8 year olds like dude start a family my guy
@@PastaaFN nobody flexing that plus yall have the same argument they where advertised as never coming back
do you realize these skins would become irrevelant the second they come back because they wont be rare anymore and they are not really special looking, this is maybe the dumbest idea ive ever heard, why do you want a billion dollar company to get an easy payday off of little kids
@@ajc2435 because I want to wear these skins. They are special compared to newer items. It really comes down to options there. Many of the newer cosmetics are too complex compared to the older ones. Why would I wear a skin like Peely Bone when the original looks better in every way?
I don't really care if they bring battle passes back but I think allowing players to finish their passes from chapter 1 that they had ALREADY bought would be the most they could do
Agreed, I have 3 from chapter 1 that I was unable to finish.
Yep, I agree, I have the Chapter 2 Battle Pass but could never finish that one because I wasn't playing as much. Having the chance to complete that one this time would be nice, especially considering I paid for it.
That’s an even worse idea yall are dumb
@DefMM123 how?
Y’all just mad you didn’t complete it back then so you don’t have “I’m an og🤡🤡” bragging rights
From the stream yeasterday, I think the biggest problem is that epic _refuses_ to give a yes/no, or even acknowledge the issue. The vaugueness of this topic is really frustrating, and both sides seem to sling mud at the other side at any opportunity. In my humble opinion, the info from last night has no definitive closure on the loophole problem, and im starting to worry that this is a similar misunderstanding to the "Nitro minigun" from the ch5s3 trailer that was just a normal wrap. I feel like any and all info on the loophole should be taken with a grain of salt (my arguments included), and wait for epic to say _anything_. We cant really do much other than speculate until then
Look if battle passes return I think epic will have to acknowledge somethings
Hope they don’t gaslight us
But or I’m doing is providing facts not baseless statements
This still doesn't solve the mystery of the "OffersCatalogue" folder in the item shop's code. Why add the old Battle Pass key art to that folder? Maybe they're planning for the far future? This ruling isn't permanent. Thay can change their minds at any time. I'll wait as long as it takes.
Unfortunately, this was just a folder for organizing things.
@@RoxlnnBR why would they need to organize images that they dont need anymore, like what are they gonna do with old battlepass images
@@C4NDYSKULL I don’t know, but that’s why.
@@RoxlnnBR but that’s where speculation is coming from, so it’s not completely out the window
The reason I didn’t address the offers catalog is that I’ve already covered it in a previous video.
Epic can’t simply change their stance without offering compensation or restitution.
The so-called legal loophole some people mention is simply incorrect, and I’m confident Epic wouldn’t pursue that path. Additionally, the main Battle Royale season is currently Season 32, and Chapter 1, Season 1 will not be the main season. Since this cosmetic item was part of a limited-time offer, once it’s gone, it cannot return-even within the same season if you want to argue it even is . same with paradigm epic given OG styles is acknowledgment epic cares for prior exclusivity.
Battle Pass cosmetics were marketed as exclusive. If Epic decides to bring them back, they’d need to handle it carefully-with some groveling and providing compensation or restitution. Without that, they risk the FTC stepping in again for round two.
Some argue that the user-end agreement gives Epic the power to do whatever they want, but that’s not accurate. Remember, this clause was in place when the FTC fined them a billion dollars for deceptive practices.
The people arguing that they were never advised as exclusive are just stupid. They were always advised as exclusive, but the issue is that they shouldn’t be exclusive. Nothing in this game should be exclusive to a certain time. Have them exclusive to those who put in the hours to grind out the passes, sure, but having them limited time is wrong. With things in real life that are exclusive, there is a way to get them even after they stop production, like reprinted cartridges or unofficial reprints of records, but with Fortnite cosmetics, there is no way to get them without breaking TOS and buying an account. I know that people want exclusive cosmetics and that they made a deal with Epic but in a preservation sense, there will be a time where there is nobody playing the game that originally got these cosmetics. There will be accounts running around with these exclusive cosmetics but they will only be played by people who didn’t get them originally. If the game wants to be a metaverse where people can be who they want, then they should allow players to express themselves in any way they want.
Womp womp cry yourself a river
Majority of games have exclusive stuff
That’s not a good argument release new skins constantly they marketed and said those old battle passes where exclusive for a limited time
@@key2shawn154 ya wanna know why they started to make things exclusive, money. Sure there were exclusive things before but they blew up in popularity as soon as Epic decided to create the battle pass
@ they started that back in season 1 and 2
The fact that we already have have returned to the OG island to but to a specific SEASON GIVE ME HOPE OLD BATTLEPASSES WILL BE AVEILABLE TO PURCHASE AGAIN
Nope it will never happen 😜
keep dreaming
W video! I think everyone's jumping to conclusions a bit too fast on this though, as I think this just means they aren't going to come back through the shop (like people were saying you could buy bundles of battlepass items in the shop, etc) I still think they can let you buy it in the battlepass section and it'll act like a regular pass.
The community always jumped to conclusions
@@distraityt it is literally advertised as exclusive but this community has made up this theory when epic mentioned bp exclusivity everywhere they sold it
The copium of people trying to find ways for it to be back is crazy.
Yes I want old battlepasses back to finish seasons 3 and 4.
However it can’t. An I’m fine with this.
Let’s get past this loophole nonsense 😩
Idk there is a lot of evidence supporting that conclusion. We will just have to wait and see, though, in December
@ there’s currently.. no evidence other than the fact that “og is coming back”
@@Therapist_Demoman Yes there is. Leakers have been saying that Epic, in the files, has been touching some old BP images that havent been interacted with since they were first in use. For example, Firemonkey, last month, said, "Epic Games has been moving a LOT of old images into a new folder called "Offer Catalog"..."
Also, Epic seems to be caring less and less about of exclusivity as of recently. For example, they are starting to (or planning on) sell old starterpacks (Albeit not necessarily exclusive but its still intresting) as well as those like console exclusives that they sell that are bundles with a console for fortnite.
Theres more but those are the big ones (To me atleast). If you want more I reccomend watching "Fortnite COULD Return Old Battle Passes" by SaiKenshin45.
@Therapist_Demoman How about epic moving the old battle passes to the "offer catalog" folder? That seems like some sort of evidence imo.
Again, definitely is referring to battle passes not returning to the item shop. I don’t know how that = not set to return at all.
They straight up said they are not bringing them back
@ source?
@@BlkBornSeed new OG not old OG look at peely look at Midas look at Jules they have never returned they only have alternate skins the OG skin never returns
@@key2shawn154 exactly. No source.
@ they literally tweeted it what else do you want new og doesn’t mean that original og skins are coming back
I really hope Epic will bring them to the item shop
They should bring those back, at least some of the cosmetics even if it were at a more premium price. It will bring them money and that's all they want.
Look, all Epic needs to do is acknowledge prior exclusivity and offer compensation if they decide to bring the passes back. not what ever the community is going on about lies and deceit...
Honestly the mental gymnastics some people are going through just so they can be disappointed in a couple weeks is wild
It’s going to be a crazy time
newgens trembling 💀🙏
Bro you got no proof they newgen. Ik ur a tiktok user with that skull emoji.
@Meifimrightordontifistillam bros the great youtube shorts diplomat 😭💀🙏
@@sharpjet25 that all we got?
I started back in chapter 1 season 4, and I bought the battle pass thinking it was a one time thing and wouldn't return. I think it should stay that way, but if they are going to return, then I feel that the players that owned the battle passes back then should have some sort of compensation. Or maybe, they could do something special with the skins, like add special styles for the OG players.
But that's just my opinion :)
100% At this point, I’m amused by the mental gymnastics and blatant lies. People would be happy for a billion-dollar company to do whatever it takes just to get cosmetics they don’t even care about.
Look, all Epic needs to do is acknowledge prior exclusivity and offer compensation if they decide to bring the passes back.
although adding OG styles would be a lot of work for someone to do when they could be doing something else.
Huge opportunity wasted epic games yet again remixed has failed 😡
Cry more you clown
Bro shut up bro
Nothing was wasted lmao. Fortnite is standing on their word rather than being scummy to make a couple millions. Which is pennies to Epic
@@camcane1exactly it’s sad people care more about the old skin then the map and gameplay it’s self
@@LuhStrapp Don't tell him to shut up I don't care if you're an OG
This just reminds me of jjk when there was theories of gojo possibly returning.
The rule post is old. So there is hope. The rule post was done when they were talking about future battlepasses. But there is hope for the old battlepasses files
@@Dunkinarts what you mean limited time means limited time
The wording is leading people to presume there’s a loophole which I don’t think really exists
It’s a lot of gymnastics to make it work
@@MrJayOWhy hey just saying there is a chance
@@MrJayOWhy They can do it legally since their new TOS states that if you agree to it then you can’t take Epic Games to court.
@ that’s been a thing since the beginning of Fortnite and are in most tos or end of user agreements
@@MrJayOWhy yeah but it wasn’t like bolded and italics before but now it like really stands out
Doesn’t mean they can’t resell the full bp during season.
@@HeWhoFinesses yes I said the video BUT that would it’s deceptive. And a misrepresentation and miss sale I won’t be surprise if they get another call from the FTC or any other countries financial regulator ready to send them another freaking fine to add to the half billion they are already paying.
@ not really “deceptive” it’s morally and ethically right to do that especially since majority of ogs like myself want this to happen. Exclusivity is dead and fomo doesn’t work like it used to be.
Conclusion: the wrong type of people own the battlepasses
people who were mis sold ? if battle passes come back the whole a lot of people are saying they will?
The people that played the game early and before you? Maybe you're just annoyed at that thought
Don’t know why all these current Fortnite players going so crazy over chapter 1 battle passes 😂😂 the skins aren’t even that good fr, they’re just nostalgia.
They are way better than the garbage epic releases now. I don't even feel the need to spend vbucks anymore. The new skins are trash. I was lucky enough to play back then and get the skins but some of my friends weren't. Oh well I guess they will just have to buy accounts to get good looking skins right?😮💨
or just accept the fact that they don’t have the skins at all and it ain’t the end of the world 😂 it’s a game and more skins are made every single day regardless whether they’re trash or not, I promise u your friends will be okay.
@cfromgrapeseed1924 I guess they could wait until chapter 1 item shop cosmetics come back. There were some gems there as well. I just hope epic releases a good battle pass or a good new skin. The only thing I've spent my vbucks from save the world on in the last 4ish months are gifts.
a couple of clean outfits here and there to be fair, but they're exclusive so rip
People are saying 'BP items are exclusive to the Battle Pass and can't be sold on the Item Shop', that is true, HOWEVER, Epic never said those items could not return as an ACTUAL entire Battle Pass to be grinded AGAIN. Especially when now we have the perfect excuse to bring back old Battle Passes with the OG mode being permanent.
although epic also pushed a environment of unlocking before the end of season so i think that is suggested.. and I've look through a load of old stuff at this point
again the agreement that the season is returning is the flimsiest..
why would they change theirs rules for new gens / more revenue , its unfair to lie to ogs
I mean, the battle pass can essentially be free, you know? And I mean, it's not right for a billion-dollar company to lie. The idea that Epic can do whatever they want is hilarious, especially considering they were hit with one of the biggest fines just a year ago. for deceptive dark patterns
@RICEGUM you fell off ever since leaving Faze Clan but seriously your 30, living in your mother's basement eating big mac's and arguing like an 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy 💀
@@PastaaFNdude sounds like your projecting, loser
OK as an og I find this ridiculous that they still are going through exclusive rules I did not get everything back then and I'd love a chance to get what I could not get from season 2 and 3 personaly I hate exclusivity and I think even if you where not an og you should get a chance to get these items like we did back then with all epics rules now and og permanently upcoming they have a perfect marketing opportunity to bring them back I rest my case.
What’s fair isn’t always what’s right. These items were sold as limited-time and exclusive, and people bought into a gam, a game that could have died just two weeks later.
Anyway, the video is more focused on the argument that "Epic can do whatever they want"-which is hilarious, especially considering they faced one of the biggest fines just a year ago.
Epic has to acknowledge exclusivity and offer compensation and restitution if they decide to bring these items back.
and not follow the opinions of lies deceit and cheat.
But you knew back then that they were limited time so what's the issue in 2024.
@MrJayOWhy If they are to return the only way they can make it work is if its sold as its battle pass but in its dedicated seasons. Epic have said this themselves battle passes can only be sold within there seasons obviously with ogs return they are aloud to come back. Epic are even making it so you can not sue them for such actions and with the promotional material in that folder its likely they could still return for season 2 onwards. yes they would be lieing to millions if they did it any other way but let's not forget most people don't really care about exclusivity anymore. Most of us me to where fairly young when we first played and now that we have matured its just cosmetics. To us I'd like them to come back not to flex or show of or any of that childish stuff we did back then and I'm sure others will agree who want them back its the fact they are just good skins and also some of the gear they come with would look great on other skins presets extra for other items we own. With everything else now not being exclusive such as starter packs and recently platform exclusives they are most likely planning battle passes to not everyone agrees to them returning for there own reasons but epic is a company at the end of the day they have a perfect marketing opportunity here which would work well for the majority of people and hey it would make them money that's what a company cares about.
@@killumnati You have to remember that if they break their word to the OG's what happens if they make another game in the future and nobody trusts their words again? The Og passes are the people who supported the game very early on, they helped it, blow it so if they just mislead people then nobody will ever trust them again to do this with another game down the line.
@@FlipflopMount222 Yeah you do have a fair point but aye its epics choice if they return until there is an official announcement stating og battle passes will not return or that they shall I guess we just gotta wait and see. Until then we are all going to still continue debating the next steps but I'm sure you can agree that whatever they decide we still get to play og permanently so we can be grateful for that at least.
and chapter but old battle passes can only drop in their own season they literally gave away sparkle specialist to boogie down winners in chapter 1 season 3 or 4
This is old news! We've known this since August
@@felixd3419 yes I said that in the vid
The "community" wants to make exclusivity a bad thing bc a majority of them weren't playing back then. They be ok. Life isnt fair
The “community” wants to make exclusivity a good thing because they’re entitled to something that doesn’t even matter. They be okay. Life isn’t fair
@BomboRhampadee if it doesn't matter, then why do you sound hurt? 🤔
At this point, I’m amused by the mental gymnastics and blatant lies. People would be happy for a billion-dollar company to do whatever it takes just to get cosmetics they don’t even care about.
Look, all Epic needs to do is acknowledge prior exclusivity and offer compensation if they decide to bring the passes back.
but they are exclusive so ggs is they never return..
Can't even lie, I'm relieved. I'm glad Epic kept their foot down and told entitled/newer players no. Great lesson by Epic
I saw a olayer who said they started in chapter 5 season 3 and wanted old bp back because it was unfair to him and everyone else
@@Callmemelski Ohhh brother 😭😭
@@Callmemelski Dude, maybe they were too young before. How is it their fault that they missed out on Dark Vader and Spider-Man if their parents didn’t allow them? This is why old battle passes need to come back. Also, some people didn’t get stuff like all the Omega lights or all the gold skins in Chapter 2 Season 2.
@@RoxlnnBR Okay? Suck it up if you were too young to play the game and didn't even have an idea. How is that our problem the new players are just entitled if you didn't have it for this long it doesn't matter if you have it now.
@@RoxlnnBRRatio, you were one of them werent you
I don't own ch1 bp but i think they shouldn't come back because they were advertised as exclusive because then that would be considered as unfair business practices by a company to sell their products
Fair enough very good points
Most people can’t say anything Bachie if they had the OG skins they won’t say anything because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose
At this point the decision is up to Epic. If they do, they do. If they don’t, they don’t. Would be cool to finish my Omega lights though, (you can think I don’t have Omega but I say I do because I really do) that’d be cool.
and that's cool although epic has to be transparent acknowlegde prior exclusivity and doing something for original supports of this game without them would 've full in to obscurity
tbf it says buy for 950 vbucks for a limited time only. I assume if they did bring back those passes they would cost more than 950 vbucks.
If you go by the non-exclusive passes, where no items are guaranteed to return to the shop after 18+ months, the wording clearly states that there is no guarantee a Battle Pass item will ever come to the shop once this change goes into effect. So, individual items could be released... or maybe never, who knows, right?
This could end up being very expensive, especially for Battle Passes that were sold as limited-time exclusives if they that was to CHANGE 💀.
Why tf would they come back
i dont know 😂
@@MrJayOWhyGatekeeper who only wants take the L to himself like dude your 30, living in your mother's basement eating 10 big mac's and arguing like an 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.
@@PastaaFNbro you getting mad at other people because you didn’t play the game when you had the chance stop getting mad at other people
@@key2shawn154 bro I didn't own a console at that time. I bought my console in December 2021 didn't play fortnite until C3S2.
@ bro if didnt start collecting battle passes until chapter 2 season 1
Epic games you an absolute joke 😤
Why? If you wasn’t there to buy it that’s your fault
@@Маккензи002It's a bot begging for everything lol
best thing FN has done in the past year
true i dont think these idiots realize no one will care about the skins anymore when they aren't rare
Why tf yall care about the old battle passes they arent even cool they are rare
That's why they want them it's just entitled people
@@FlipflopMount222 It's so dumb bro 😂
See I though they would come back but it’s basically confirmed they won’t because at the end of the day the whole world could want them back but it would be like back stabbing and losing to being back exclusives just because people couldn’t buy it so I understand
I have exclusives I want new players to be able to purchase them its so greedy to not want others to use their favorite skins.
for me Epic can’t simply change its stance without offering compensation or restitution.
My position is that Epic should acknowledge prior exclusivity and the limited-time nature of the offer, rather than allowing everyone to try to construct a loophole so epic doesn't acknowledge is so odd
@ Definitely knowing epic they will, like when they accidentally put the paridime in shop and gave previous owners of the skin a new style.
pretty sure epic just wants to stir the community, chances are they will go with the option that makes the most money
At this point, I'm just more bewildered by the idea that Epic can do whatever they want and manipulate any loopholes. they see.
i would hope, that if Epic were to bring old passes back removing exclusivity , they would acknowledge the exclusivity, NOT LIE ABOUT IT and apologize for ever creating it, and offer compensation-at least in some form.
If they re release OG battle passes, they will probably make more money than they ever have and possibly ever will.
@@MrJayOWhy I'm bewildered that exclusivity should even matter on a purely cosmetic item with no liquidity (account trading against ToS)
I just want an excuse to update old bp skins. Maybe an updated version of these skins.
THE REAPER IS IN MY COMMENTS
do what you want 🫨
@MrJayOWhy Yep it's me THE REAPER, but for real it's mainly because with most of the stuff Epic does with newer skins look pretty damn good. Especially 1 ball, Rosette Tigress and a few other remade skins.
A lot of the textures of newly designed skins pop out so much more and they look like actual kevlar, metal, or whatever material you have in the real world.
I know most of these examples are reskins but they do put work in the newer skins nowadays. Not to hate on the older design which I still enjoy and wear I honestly would be pretty cool to see most of these skins get a style that restores and updates the skin regardless if there coming out or not.
Idk why newgens think they getting old battlepases they literally gave an ITEM SHOP skin an edits style and removed it why would they give you a battlepass 💀
yes when skins accidently return some use it as full to throw exclusivity in the bin BUT
yeah for me paradigm actually shows how difficult it would be if they needs to give OG styles
epic is acknowledge that by given the og styles
Yeah ik Klarque Clint Gaming got paid 6 figures by epic games to make a video about this and now it happened thanks Klarque Clint Gaming for ruining the fun like dude your 30, still lives In your mom's basement and arguing like a 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.
I’m not believing this until it is on the main Fortnite page
Actually this was an old statement from August
@@ryanfares263 a minute in 0:46
People only want them because they are a new gen of players who didn't play them. As someone else said life isn't fair, move on and get over it lol
Fortnite OG was so much better than remixed chapter 2 season 2 has failed
People need to just accept that these cosmetics will never return.
Epic should start making good skins again tho so people that didn't play back then can earn some decent looking cosmetics. I was lucky enough to play back then and get the skins but some of my friends weren't and their only option is to either wait for skins like raptor raven etc to return in the shop or just straight up buy accounts.
That’s what I’m saying I was confused
Bad news
They will not return outside of their reapective seasons and chapter 1 season 1 is returning... I REST MY CASE...
Maybeee..🤔
But is it not even the main BR season and you could argue chapter 6 season1 would be season 32 or 33
I’m amused by the mental gymnastics and blatant lies. People would be happy for a billion-dollar company to do
the season return is the flimsiest argument ever ..
not the same season, engine or even year
also they were sold as limited time so once they leave that is the limited time regardless of seasons
@@MrJayOWhy Spot on. I think these people are holding onto hope, but I also blame the clickbaiters who obviously stirred this up and got the hopes of lots of kids up for views and likes. I just think the writings on the wall, but they are living on "loophole" that aren't really there.
Good.
I’ll rather og pump return
FACTS 🤯
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So much cope in the comments they aren't coming back move on
You don't even know what cope means
Yeah still don't care if epic wanted the battle pass to be exclusively or not but besides ch6 is the last chapter and season 1 is the last one and that s it after season 1 the next one is going back to ch2 where im in heaven in fortnite but me never died but in fortnite he s already dead
First of all, learn some proper grammar. Second, chapter 6 is NOT the last chapter, and it will have at least 4 seasons. That's how it is.
@@goldenninja9053 sorry but sometimes I would have crappy and goofy ahh grammar and I'm saying that because this is my last season or a chapter cuz the next one I will might playing ch2 s2 with project reboot ok
Thank god
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Nuh uh
@@distraityt not nice
@@jakethenecromorphIt's the internet. Fools like @distraityt don't know how to be nice anymore.
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